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Gun Thread: The Five-O of de May-O Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be May? As I predicted last week, May was just around the corner, and well dang if it didn't come true!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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WeaselDoctrine
So who went to the range this week and focused on fundamentals? I mean, really focused on the task at hand? I probably don't give those who do enough credit, because frankly, it's not that easy to do. Sure, you might vaguely recall some retarded shit Weasel was yammering about the previous week on the Gun Thread about fundamentals and blah, blah, blah... just the usual crap, but are you really focused the whole time?. After all, you are already one tactical bad-ass mo-fo with a giant watch and the latest and greatest thing from Sig or Glock sporting a flashlight and optic and Pez dispenser. You read lots of internet stuff too, and impress the heck out of range babes with your mad skillz and drop rig holster. You go to the range and shoot and the results aren't too terrible, so who needs all the focusing and fundamentals crapola?

You do.

The single best way I know to focus all of your brain molecules and track progress is to keep score. It's really that simple. I intentionally try not to focus on competitive shooting here because I want this to be a general shooting-for-funsies-for-all thread and don't want it to turn into some boring, ultra-competitive, elite-shooter wanna-be deal. Having said that, I have always been a proponent of practicing with a purpose and keeping track of progress, and it turns out keeping score is very handy in that regard. Again, plinking is relatively easy, and shooting well for score is hard. It places you outside your comfort zone, and if you have the right attitude, causes you to try your best to make every shot count.

I will say it again, if you aren't participating in some sort of club level competitive shooting event, you are missing an inexpensive and fun way to very quickly up your game. The first time you go, you won't have any idea what you're doing and that's OK, but please avoid the temptation to just go to a match and watch. OK, maybe you can do that once, but the only way to learn and reap all the benefits is to go and participate. You will quickly find everyone is more than willing to help a new competitor, especially if you go with a good attitude, ask questions and are willing to learn. Not being an asshole is also helpful.

Please consider it. You will be surprised with how fun it is and how quickly you will improve.

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Competition Time!
In an amazing and totally not made up coincidence our pals blaster and sra blaster have started competing!

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Since we went to the TxMoMe, sra blaster has been itching to compete in shooting. She looked a little at IDPA but locations and times did not gel for us. Then our local range started having "Steel Shoots." This is an "outlaw" competition that doesn't run under any sanctioning body. It's just indoor courses involving movement that are timed and scored and it was a good fit for us.

We did attend a training course for this that gave us a feel for how the events are run. Our first event we had a great time but scored poorly. We chalk it up as a learning experience. We've got our second event in a couple of days so we hope to do better and still have fun.

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Here's how the courses are run: there is a setup in an indoor range and steel targets are arranged in various scenarios for you to shoot in a run. Some are static firing - stand here at this cone and shoot those targets 2x each. Some are in motion. Shoot at these targets while you are transiting from this point to this point. Some require a particular sequence - shoot the red target, then the yellow, then the red again. Some are shoot from behind an obstacle. An RSO follows you and times and keeps score and makes sure you aren't breaking any safety rules. You get one walkthrough and then it's time to shoot. After everyone in the group shoots the first course you move to the second.

No restrictions on equipment except you are limited to 3 magazines and you must have an OWB holster for your pistol and two mags. Also you must shoot frangible ammo since we are engaging steel at as little as 5 yards. Round count for a course may be over 40 so no math but that is going to leave 1911s out of the running. Everyone shot some high cap 9mm - Sigs, Glocks, and 2011s were on the menu.

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This type of shooting is a real challenge. There is more than just putting a hole in a piece of paper. You have to think and remember and it's a competition also deal with adrenaline. And focus on fundamentals at the same time!

And then there is preparation. You need to have the right equipment. While three is the minimum number of mags to have, having 6 is better. Preloading them helps - I am loading each mag to 15 and then we will remove rounds to fit the scenario. We got caught short in the first event because we had to load 43 rounds in 3 mags in a short period of time - time that would have been better spent reviewing the course and watching others go ahead of us.

This is fun but I think it will ultimately make us better shooters, too. I hope our scores are better this time.

Very nicely done blaster and sra blaster!

Do you see this, people? Do you see? They had fun! They also realize this will make them better shooters. I call this a win-win situation with no downside other than perhaps initially demonstrating in public that you aren't quite ready for the SEAL Teams just yet. Always keep track of scores as a progress metric but don't obsess over them. They will get better fairly quickly as you begin to get comfortable with what you're doing. Simply set aside your ego as you learn, and listen more than you talk. Figure out who the best shooters are and become their bestest friends. Ask them how they do things and you are very likely to be surprised by how willing the truly accomplished shooters are to share.

Give it a try. I know we have some competitors here who can chime in on the value of shooting matches, so please speak up in the comments!

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FUNdamentals Review

Trigger placement

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Shelter On a Quiet Street

For the coming Spicy Times.

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Neutron Stars

These little guys seem like fun!

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2024 NoVAMoMe

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Note: One of the great joys of NoVAMoMe season, at least for me, is being able to cut and paste the entire block of text below and haranguing you to register for the event. Have you registered? Are you focusing on the fundamentals of registration?

Alright, guys and gals, the long awaited and highly anticipated opening of 2024 NoVAMoMe registration is upon us! That's right, registration for the event of the season is open, which means you can register to attend! You see, in order to attend, you must first register, and then wait for June 8th, and then attend! It's really more of an application to attend based on whether we like you or not, but what have you got to lose?!

Q: Weasel, your world frightens and confuses us. How do we, how do you say, register for the NoVAMoMe?
A: Welp, it's pretty darn easy!

First, check your calendars for June 8th, 2024, and cancel anything already planned. Good so far? Then simply send an email to WeaselBell Productions expressing your interest, then sit back and anxiously wait for a reply. Our pal and most delightful 'ette and MoMe Hostess Extraordinaire bluebell will review your application and relevant permanent record notations to decide if you're NoVAMoMe material. If you're one of the chosen, you'll get a reply with a link and secret password to the registration site containing all the pertinent details. Look these over and complete the simple registration form, following the PayPal link provided at the end of the form to make your payment. The $30 pp fee covers appetizers, dinner (BBQ Chicken, hamburdogs, sides, and dessert) plus an unlimited amount of fun! Since we must guarantee a headcount to the caterer, all registrations must be made online by May 26th. We are not accepting payment for registration at the door. You do not need a PayPal account to register and can pay with any major credit card.

A NoVAMoMe PSA from our pal bluebell

Hi folks - just a quick PSA. If you write for info about the MoMe, please give us a few words in the body of the email just so I know you are a Moron and not a spammer (moron). I do receive spam on this email account because it's sitting right here in my nic, so that's why I'm asking. I don't want to give our details to a spammer. Also, once registered, remember to check your spam folder if you don't receive a confirmation email.

Thanks.
bluebell

Seriously, just send an email, go to the site with the password provided, fill out the simple form, and make your payment. If you forget, a link to the email is on the main page, left sidebar. If you do not sign up, bluebell will be disappointed. Weasel will be disappointed, too, but it's bluebell you need to worry about.

Win a Dream Date with Weasel!
Due to popular demand, we are again conducting a separate raffle for a Dream Date with Weasel This fabulous prize includes an entire day of shooting and personalized one-on-one handgun & rifle coaching and instruction at Weasel Acres on a mutually agreeable date with yours truly. The lucky winner will be able to not only bring and shoot their own weapons, but also try out a variety of WeaselWeapons using WeaselAmmo!

We will end the day with dinner at a good Mexican place in nearby Appomattox. The winner will be responsible for their travel to and from Central Virginia, hence the separate drawing.

Don't be a pathetic girly-man loser, register today!

Q: Weasel, anything else for 2024?
A: Why I'm glad you asked! There are in fact TWO things to mention for 2024.

First, we are again having a pre-party get-together the afternoon/evening before the main event. Details at the registration site.

Dos, we are again offering a NoVAMoMe commemorative mug for 2024 available only to NoVAMoMe participants!

We sincerely hope you can join the festivities. I promise you this event is as laid back and non-anxiety inducing as humanly possible, and nothing makes me happier than to meet new people who have been reluctant to join in the past. If sitting on the sidelines and just observing is your thing, you can do just that with zero pressure from anyone. I hope some of the past NoVAMoMe participants will jump in and share their thoughts on the event to inspire the scairdy-cat lurkers out there to throw caution to the wind and sign up!

That's it, people. Email WeaselBell Productions today!

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Monster From Green Hell!
Have I featured this before? For some reason I believe I have. If so, here it is again.

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Musical Interlude
Here is Henry Mancini with a few favorites.

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Gun Basics 101
No new video from the She Equips Herself gal, so here is a re-run on safety at the gym

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal rhomboid scores again with this excellent review of the Stillwell Bayou No. 32

Steve Saka, the founder and master blender of Dunbarton Tobacco & Trust, is also a pipe smoker, and a while back he collaborated with the chief blender of the pipe tobacco company Cornell & Diehl to blend some pipe tobacco-based cigars. I've reviewed two here previously: the Aromatic No. 1 and the Navy 1056.

The Bayou No. 32 is another in the line, the name drawn from the use of Louisiana's unique and venerable Perique pipe tobacco, from St. James Parish. In Dunbarton's description, the Bayou No. 32 is "A combination of Bright and Red Virginia leaf with the most select St. James Parish Perique pipe tobacco added to a medium-bodied Nicaraguan puro".

More experienced pipe smokers than I can probably describe the flavors better, but to me the overall experience was a sort of sweet tangy earthiness. Very nice. Smoke was ample, and as with all Dunbarton sticks, construction was excellent. There a couple other interesting cigars in this line that I hope to try in the future. Stillwell Star sticks are not your everyday cigar (unless you've made a killing in bitcoin, or were far-sighted enough to snatch up lots of new-in-box Colt Pythons back in the 80s) - they go for $14 and up.

Excellent, rhomboid! Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal 10 Gallon Hat. Great one!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 Castella: Must have great preservatives.

Posted by: Ciampino - Bewbs? at May 05, 2024 07:00 PM (qfLjt)

2 wang

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 07:01 PM (NxC5+)

3 Good evening.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:02 PM (a3Q+t)

4 Present.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 07:02 PM (UfUdn)

5 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:03 PM (yRXSd)

6 Evening All!!!!

To the content!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 05, 2024 07:03 PM (f0/sc)

7 Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 05, 2024 07:03 PM (6vIY6)

8 Pew....Pew....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 05, 2024 07:03 PM (QNSds)

9 YAY!

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:04 PM (1zxQh)

10 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 05, 2024 07:04 PM (6vIY6)

11 As I predicted last week, May was just around the corner, and well dang if it didn't come true!
You're a veritable prophet, Weasel!

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:05 PM (1zxQh)

12 Thanks for the gun thread Weasel!

I'm going to have to read it later as we've been drafted for dinner at the BIL's place.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 07:05 PM (HDU5E)

13 Good evening host Weasel and the gubs Horde.
A brief range report to follow, and a request for assistance.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at May 05, 2024 07:05 PM (L3byd)

14 Nood.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:05 PM (a3Q+t)

15 Sorry! The Nood was supposed to be on the Food Thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:07 PM (a3Q+t)

16 Evening, Weasel and Gun Thread fans! I am making chips. By the time I am finished, 20% of my project piece will be aluminum chips, some of which will embed in my socks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2024 07:07 PM (8zz6B)

17 I hereby nominate the Blasters for the coveted Pew-Pew Trophy of the Week!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:08 PM (HlyYF)

18 Howdy all y'all!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:09 PM (JwHpX)

19 Late, but Taco-fed!
I love Mrs. Red.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 07:10 PM (wrDSd)

20 Darn! Just got a text. Now I have to go over to the XII West pub in Gilbert, and meet friends for beer. Chip-making ends for today.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2024 07:10 PM (8zz6B)

21 14 Nood.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:05 PM

15 Sorry! The Nood was supposed to be on the Food Thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:07 PM


ONT up awful early today!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:10 PM (HlyYF)

22 15 Sorry! The Nood was supposed to be on the Food Thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:07 PM


Damn, thought I had dozed off there for a second!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 05, 2024 07:11 PM (f0/sc)

23 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 07:11 PM (fwDg9)

24 20 Darn! Just got a text. Now I have to go over to the XII West pub in Gilbert, and meet friends for beer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2024 07:10 PM


I just hate it when that happens!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:11 PM (HlyYF)

25 Shopping for my first rifle scope and am overwhelmed. The choice comes down to my shooting profile, the scope specifics and my budget. I get that. It's understanding scope specifics and applying them to shooting profiles that is daunting.

I think the way about is to learn about scope specifics. I know nothing, things like 3-9x40 are Chinese to me. But I can learn.

Can someone recommend a good reading to get myself some background knowledge?

Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:12 PM (WOh/Y)

26 Hi Gun thread.

Perique tobacco is a weird beast. By itself, it tastes like a roomful of well-used sweat socks would smell like if you left it for a month or two. Somehow it's magic with Virginia tobacco, though, adding depth of character and umami.

Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:12 PM (oBPoz)

27 Round count for a course may be over 40 so no math but that is going to leave 1911s out of the running.
This is my only problem with this. It seems kinda plastic-gun-worshipy. (And, if I have to say so, very unrealistic. If I'm going somewhere I'm going to need 40 rounds in a single fight, I am NOT using my pistol. That will be a backup and for the occasional coup-de-gras.)

But, otherwise, I'm glad y'all had fun, Blaster and sra, and learned something.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:13 PM (1zxQh)

28 No range time for me this weekend, alas. I picked up a cold and a bit of a cough, so I stayed home to stop spreading my germs around. Cleaned a few guns instead.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:13 PM (yRXSd)

29 Can someone recommend a good reading to get myself some background knowledge?
Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:12 PM (WOh/Y)
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Send me an email and I'll get you started.

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:14 PM (JwHpX)

30 Yes, after an excellent experience outdoors last weekend, I looked forward to returning to the indoor range to see if they translated. Yeah, not so much. After the first couple of mags on Friday, I wondered precisely what was going on. So, took a deep breath, stepped back and started evaluating what was different. Lighting was obviously #1, but it had to be more. So, worked on adjusting the stance, and that helped a bit. Then focused on breathing (why do I always forget to breathe?) and that helped some more. By the end of the session, improvement reigned. Went home and discussed lighting. Decided today to scrap the targets and go with white paper plates. What a significant difference! Sightlines are easier when you can actually see! Actually by focusing only on ALL the fundys, today was the first day we both left the range saying we had a good day. Still need to work on the posture (not hunching) and breathing. But encouraged is the word for today.

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

31 Brief range report: (1/2)
Today was 22 WMR day at the range with my shooting buddy. He brought his Keltec PMR. I brought the AMT AutoMagII and my Charter Arms revolver.

The PMR and the AutoMag are fun. I prefer the AutoMag because my small hands don't work well with the wider grip of the PMR. That, and I really like the 80s stainless steel vibe of the AutoMag. We did well, and by practicing the fundamentals of grip (making the support hand stronger, using the strong hand for trigger work) I was able to punch consistent groups at 7 yards.

Posted by: Chappyman66 at May 05, 2024 07:15 PM (L3byd)

32 Saw this today on M-1 rifle grenades, if you have one check this out. If I had one I would want one

https://tinyurl.com/4799dv6u

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 07:15 PM (fwDg9)

33 I'm having trouble sourcing a Pez dispenser for a Sig, the final piece to complete my badassitude. I know they exist for Glocks, but Sig seems unobtainium. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 07:15 PM (a3Q+t)

34 Can someone recommend a good reading to get myself some background knowledge?

Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:12 PM


You are currently in the company of experts. (Not me.)

What rifle and round are you shooting? What is your expected main goal for shooting that gun?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:16 PM (HlyYF)

35 Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:13 PM (1zxQh)
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Whether or not you agree with the match program, it's still excellent practice.

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:17 PM (JwHpX)

36 @Pillage Idiot. CZ-457. Target shooting. 50-100-300 yards

Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:18 PM (WOh/Y)

37 I continue to visit the range every week, and I continue to get better. The funny thing is that my progress is slower when I'm just practicing making myself do the things I know I should do, every time, and faster when I figure out that I'm doing something really wrong for me and should do something else instead.

I had one of those today. I had somehow gotten the idea, for the last couple of months, that my best possible grip involved curling my support hand finger around the front of the trigger guard. Maybe that works for you, but for me, it introduces a lot of left-right wobble, and limits the firmness of my grip.

Today I tried, instead, curling my support hand fingers around my shooting hand fingers on the grip, and wow. Recoil is now straight up and down now, and when it isn't, I can adjust that. I now have a lot more control over tuning just when the pistol gets back on target after a shot. It seems clear that I will have to tune the pressures for each different pistol, and once I do, accurate fast shooting will be mine.

Still have to get rid of some bad habits, but this advance in knowledge made me very happy.

Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:18 PM (oBPoz)

38 Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Excellent!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:19 PM (JwHpX)

39 And TRex has us enrolled in a class on Core Pistol Development - not a competition, but a step on the way to one....

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 07:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 Gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2024 07:20 PM (mH6SG)

41 Up twinkles for competition! The first IDPA match I did I couldn’t even remember to take the safety off.
And as soon as you start, the adrenaline makes it had to remember even basic instructions.
The more you do, though, the more those mistakes recede into the distance.
And there’s nothing like competition to test your focus- not on the sights, but on the putting together of all the fundamentals.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 07:20 PM (wrDSd)

42 Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:18 PM (oBPoz)
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Good job!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:21 PM (JwHpX)

43 Howdy, all!
I got 3 good days of shooting in this week (what day spent shooting is not good?). I stunk on ice with the pistol, but at least I think the light primer strike issue has been cured. Did a little better with the rifle. I wanted to make sure the EOTech sight on my secondary alternate emergency backup AR was still dialed in. It was. I concentrated on making sure it would hit where I wanted at 50 yards offhand, since I don't foresee a scenario in which I would use it at much greater distance. It's strictly for home defense.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 07:21 PM (3rnQf)

44 36 @Pillage Idiot. CZ-457. Target shooting. 50-100-300 yards

Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:18 PM


Do you shoot with buddies? I would look through some of their scopes at the range.

The 3x9 in your OP is the variable magnification. Target 3x larger up to 9x larger. The latter number (40) is the objective lens diameter which is usually in millimeters.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

45 Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:12 PM (WOh/Y)

What everyone wants out of a scope will be different, so think about how you'd answer these questions.
1) How far out are you planning to engage targets? 200m? 500m? 1000m?
2) How much room do you have on top of your rifle? You'll have to select a scope based on what can fit there.
3) How will you mount your optic? 1913 Pic-rails? Scope rings? If scope rings, what dimensions do you need?
4) How tough does your glass have to be? Are you planning on using it for SHTF, for competition, or as a range toy?
5) What's your budget?
6) Do you plan to integrate the scope w/ other optical accessories (night vision, thermals, red dots, etc.)?
7) Illuminated reticles: If you go this route, battery power, or tritium?
I'm sure there are more questions, but that's what I can come up w/ really quickly.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:24 PM (yRXSd)

46 Thank you, thank you and thank you to nurse that helped bring our IDPA thing to fruition. I am not intentionally leaving the other great people that made this happen because you have my eternal gratitude.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 07:24 PM (mKjJV)

47 Wow. Tactical Hyve dude is spot on! His example of martial arts (as defined as hand-to-hand type fighting) is exactly right. It's the principles behind the techniques/styles that makes them work. (Saw this, in particular, going from wrestling to judo classes.)

And, like martial arts, you need some "techniques" - kata - to get your body to be comfortable with the principles when you get started. And, just like with martial arts, it can be easy for instructors to forget the principles behind the kata and drill the kata endlessly without working toward the principle.

AN outstanding find, Weasel! (And not a 30 minute video, either!)

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:25 PM (1zxQh)

48 Gonna be getting a new scope myself. Nothing fancy. A Crossfire II for the 48 year old 10/22. Guess which one is still on it.
I bought one for the widow to put on her brand new 10/22. It's a ton better than what's on mine and I figure after almost 50 years, and all the bunnies and squirrels she's had a hand in, the ol' girl deserves it.
Btw, at 82, she shoots a 10 shot, 30 yard group you can cover with a nickel, not counting the occasional flyer.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 05, 2024 07:25 PM (xZpzx)

49 Monster From Green Hell!
So, they had environmentalists way back then, too?!

(Yes, I know they did. They were serious about it, too, composting old girlfriends they no longer needed.)

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:26 PM (1zxQh)

50 Hello Ben Had, I owe you an email. Need to send it tonight before I forget yet again.

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

51 Good.even___.all.
Remember, it's better to be the shootER, than the shootEE.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 07:27 PM (W/lyH)

52 Brief range report (2/2) and request:

The Charter Arms is not as smooth as others, but it's small and potentially a carry possibility and in 22 WMR with ballistics "close" to a 38. I thought it was drifting left based on the last time out, so I brought my screwdrivers. Focusing on fundamentals again, I didn't need my screwdrivers.

I did however note that 3 of the cylinders were tight fitting (the rounds didn't drop all the way in) and thus also didn't eject cleanly. They would sit about 1/32" high, and have to be manually seated to close the cylinder and fire.
After firing, I could push them partway out with the ejector but they had to be manually pulled out. I was primarily shooting CCI MaxiMags but ran some older red box Federal ammo through it with similar results.

I have cleaned it thoroughly with a brass brush, so it should be clean....but it is clearly not smooth.
My question is: should I be considering a hone to open the cylinders slightly?
Insight from revolver masters appreciated.

No, I am not going to fix the problem by buying a different pistol. I can do that anyway, but not for this reason......

Posted by: Chappyman66 at May 05, 2024 07:27 PM (L3byd)

53 I got a little shooting in this week, and it will be awhile before my "shooting holler" dries out after today's rain. Just exercised the G17, the LCP (I practice with that left hand only because of the cane) and a little .22 plinking. Good news is my friend's son, a really smart young guy, is a welder. Young guy has been getting every certification he can and at the ripe age of 26 is a crew foreman. He has agreed to fab and has the sketch for a bullet trap and knows where he can get the material for free. Knowing him it's going to be "you wanted .22 safe so I upped it to Lahti anti tank gun".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 07:29 PM (V5eKu)

54 Splunge, just a bit of reading on perique tobacco revealed some interesting tidbits. It's fermented in hickory ex-whisky barrels - under pressure, physical pressure, with big jack-screws pressing down a plate on the pilons (well, there's a French name for the bundles of leaves, but I forgot what it is). Unique AFAIK in the tobacco biz.

There are at least two other companies making cigars with perique in the blend - Connecticut Valley Tobacconist, and the big Philippines tobacco company, Tabaclera Incorporada.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 07:29 PM (GcNJ2)

55 Grateful, I'm always glad to hear from you anytime. I have a breathe and squeeze exercise for you .

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 07:30 PM (mKjJV)

56 My daughter competes in youth steel challenge. It's competitive, especially amongst the kids in Texas. She will be competing in Ohio for Nationals for the second year. Her times have improved substantially but it is extremely competitive. Some of the times that are being put up are incredible.
The majority of guns are .22 rifles then pistols. There are lots of kids shooting PCC's, 1911's, center fire pistols, & revolvers in .22 and 9mm. The spawn is just shooting in .22 so far. It's easier on the wallet with as many rounds as she shoots in a season. She destroyed her upper on her Volquartsen 2 Mondays ago and they had a brand new to us by the following Monday. Excellent customer service. Many kids have literally had guns wear out with the amount of shop they do and the questionable maintenance the kids do. 😳

Posted by: lin-duh at May 05, 2024 07:31 PM (PZo5T)

57 Good evening horde and hello Weasel-san.

As Grateful said, we continue on our path of fundamentals progress. Friday at the range had glimpses of hope but today was much, much better. Out of my sight, Grateful mixed snapcaps in with live ammo for six mags. Those went well and then I reverted back to only live ammo. Small clusters and no "down and to the right" trends. It was a GOOD range day. And I got to go home with the only range babe that mattered.

Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 07:31 PM (IQ6Gq)

58 Posted by: lin-duh at May 05, 2024 07:31 PM (PZo5T)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:33 PM (JwHpX)

59 whig, Ed L, others, I sent off my order for an M1 this past week! They were out of the Service Grade, so I had to add a couple hundred more dollars and go for the Expert Grade.

If I have $500 and a trip to a CMP store in mind, I will also get a Drill Grade. Because that's what I hauled around for 4 years, and did more than a few tours* with.

(* Punishment marching)

Next bonus check: a Colt Python, I hope!

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:33 PM (1zxQh)

60 TRex is being modest. After the snap cap exercise, he was firing 5 bullets in a line that measured one inch! Another time, he put 3 bullets in the same hole and the other 2 in another hole. Fantastic result!

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 07:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

61 not counting the occasional flyer.
Posted by: TeeJ at May 05, 2024 07:25 PM


Don't worry about those; we all have them.

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at May 05, 2024 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)

62 Anyone else shoot more consistently when you're too exhausted to flinch or anticipate recoil?

Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:34 PM (oBPoz)

63 Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 07:31 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Good job! Keep focusing!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:34 PM (JwHpX)

64 naftali,

I primarily shoot for hunting. I went out and scouted several of my expected shots with some of my cheaper scopes when it was still light and then stayed as night fell. It was obvious what magnification ranges would be suitable for my application.

I think it will be easy for you to pick the magnification you require for shooting at those distances.

Almost every other aspect is VERY price related. Larger objective lenses generally gather more light, so it is easier to see the game (or target) in low-light conditions. It is also easier to have a perfectly crisp image as you go to full magnification as you move up in scope prices.

end Part 1.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:35 PM (HlyYF)

65 Cleaned a few guns instead.
Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:13 PM (yRXSd)

Yeah, but now your guns are all germy for your next range trip.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:35 PM (1zxQh)

66 Posted by: The Fourth Shot at May 05, 2024 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)
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Yup.

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:35 PM (JwHpX)

67 A lot of expert shooters let me look through their rig at a MoMe. I believe every single one had a scope that cost equal to or more than their very nice rifle.

If you are on a budget, I would get a lower price point scope from one of the good manufacturers. Those are so affordable. After you use if for a while, you will then be able to determine exactly what you need. Then you can upgrade you optic.

You might think you are then wasting your first scope. I predict not, you will almost certainly purchase another rifle and can put your scope on that gun!

end Part 2.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:35 PM (HlyYF)

68 Steel shoots are my preference. Paper's OK, suppose you get more info on your accuracy, but scoring/taping/etc soaks up lots of time, and is a big factor in keeping round counts low. Which is bad/boring. At least here, doing a match kills most of a day, with driving and all figured in, so round counts

Used to be a big steel shoot, 80 minute drive away, that had a round count north of *200*. That's what I'm talking about. Makes the time worth it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 07:36 PM (GcNJ2)

69 Range Day! Range Report!

It works! Got to shoot the new G48 with it's Holosun properly affixed thanks to all of you and especially Blaster. I was shooting a little low and to the left. Hrothgar had brought a stand so Blaster was able t o help adjust the sight. Voila! Perfect. I was even shooting the upper targets without a problem. It was such a relief to find out that all that practice with first teh G44, then G48 translated perfectly to the new pistol.
I then pulled out the Kimber. I will never get over how easy that gun is to shoot. It does feel like cheating. I like the trigger pull much better than the Glock. So smooth.
All in all, an extremely satisfying trip to the range.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 07:36 PM (t/2Uw)

70 Send me an email and I'll get you started.
Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:14 PM (JwHpX)

You know, Weasel, it might be a good topic for a couple of Gun Threads....

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:36 PM (1zxQh)

71 52 You might want to try a stiff bore brush with a little lube and some really coarse scouring powder. Make a lot of passes through each chamber while watching TV or whatever, don't spare the scouring powder and that may smooth it up. A lot of clay shooters used to do that when plastic hulls would leave a chamber residue.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 07:36 PM (V5eKu)

72 Dang.
That's the third time today I have botched a post. Stoopid kindle.

Anyway...I actually did get to the range this last week.
A retired Air Force dude drug me out of the cave, and we had a good time. The range is always better than just the Strikeman.
Interesting experience. I was shooting several.of mine and was doing generally ok, but nothing great. He passed me his Baretta M9, just like the one I carried my last few years in the Army. It was like coming home.
Fired two magazines and the black part of the target (not the writing at the bottom of the paper) mostly disappeared.

Sometimes a piece just...fits.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 07:37 PM (W/lyH)

73 Posted by: Chappyman66 at May 05, 2024 07:27 PM (L3byd)

Chappyman, before you start messing around with the revolver itself, why don't you try changing the ammo you use first? Changing the ammo brand you use is a lot cheaper than monkeying around w/ the gun itself. If you're going to do something to gun itself, I'd get a gunsmith to do it. Unless you really know what you're doing, I wouldn't mess around w/ changing the dimensions of the revolver cylinders.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:37 PM (yRXSd)

74 My question is: should I be considering a hone to open the cylinders slightly?

I think the first thing I would do is contact the manufacturer's customer service. Guns are mechanical devices and sometimes out-of-spec parts make it past QC. Most manufacturers will try to make it right for you.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 07:39 PM (/y8xj)

75 Naftali, that sounds much like the .22 aspirin shoots I do. 50, 100, 150 and 200, with an occasional 300 yd bonus.
Most of us are shooting 5x25 power. You really need the 25 power magnification to even see the target.
First focal plane v. Second focal plane is more a personal choice. FFP means the crosshairs change size depending on the power you use, but they are optically correct at any range (the sight gradations will always be, e.g., one minute of angle regardless of power).
SFP keeps the crosshairs the same size regardless of power. They are optically correct at only one setting, e.g., at 18 power.
The reason for the two is highly technical and beyond the “scope” of this introduction.
Pick one which feels comfortable. I prefer SFP because the aiming dot is always the same size. It does not change with magnification.
Shorter answer. Come to TX MoMe where everyone will let you try theirs.
BTW, shooting 22 at anything over a 100 will try your patience and skills. But doing it in competition will improve them quickly.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 07:39 PM (wrDSd)

76 Skip, was thinking of the In Range TV episode when you mentioned M1 rifle grenades. Pretty awesome what those guys do/did in searching out surplus parts and especially the inert/training rounds. I need to check in on Gun Jesus' channel, do so occasionally. He also had an episode or two on flamethrowers (at least the US WWII standard one). And he's turned his fun into a job, which is most excellent.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 07:40 PM (GcNJ2)

77 "So who went to the range this week and focused on fundamentals? I mean, really focused on the task at hand?"

Ooh! mememememememe.

I'm not really a range guy, more for the field, but I was so sick of missing the critters I took 2 snap caps and 100 shells for a bit of 50/50 dry/live fire.

It turns out that after stepping up to a 12ga from the .22 I was flinching like a b*tch and didn't even realise it.

I focused on trigger pull and sight alignment then headed out to the stomping ground. The result?

12 shots, 8 hits

Posted by: Nato at May 05, 2024 07:40 PM (ciuRb)

78 Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:18 PM (oBPoz)

Excellent discovery, Splunge!

I know my support hand is likely one of my problems, as I shoot better one-handed than two-handed.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:40 PM (1zxQh)

79 72/
Diogenes, what a great experience. Thanks for sharing it!

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 07:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

80 Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:33 PM (1zxQh)

I don't think you'll be disappointed with either. Also, Colt Pythons are more readily available than ever. Colt's got a lot of options to choose from for the Python with a variety of both barrel lengths and finishes (matte stainless, satin stainless, and blue). You might even be able to score a deal on one, especially the older 4.25" and 6" satin stainless versions, which have been out the longest.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:42 PM (yRXSd)

81 That guy in the last picture staring at the sunset is our brother though we may not share a name.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 07:42 PM (NxC5+)

82 Chappyman, before you start messing around with the revolver itself, why don't you try changing the ammo you use first? Changing the ammo brand you use is a lot cheaper than monkeying around w/ the gun itself. If you're going to do something to gun itself, I'd get a gunsmith to do it. Unless you really know what you're doing, I wouldn't mess around w/ changing the dimensions of the revolver cylinders.
Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:37 PM (yRXSd)
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If after a thorough cleaning the problem isn't resolved, try different ammo. If that doesn't work, have a gunsmith look at it. Altering chamber dimensions even a little bit can cause trouble. Sometimes chambers are just tight due to wear in the machining tools. I have a .38 like that.

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:42 PM (JwHpX)

83 Hmmm. Mysterious dropped text there. Shoulda ended:

"At least here, doing a match kills most of a day, with driving and all figured in, so round counts *lower than 100* are unimpressive, so much so that one stand-by match with dwindling round counts dropped off my list until new managers increased the round count again.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 07:43 PM (GcNJ2)

84 Thank you very much Pillage Idiot and Ed. I will read all that very carefully.

I will send you an email @Weasel, thank you very much.

Posted by: naftali at May 05, 2024 07:45 PM (WOh/Y)

85 "you wanted .22 safe so I upped it to Lahti anti tank gun".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 07:29 PM (V5eKu)

Over-engineering for the win!

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:45 PM (1zxQh)

86 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 07:36 PM (t/2Uw)

Yay! Nice to know that it all works now.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:45 PM (yRXSd)

87 Nice shooting blaster and sra blaster!

Run and Gun should be on everyone's list as well as working on the fundamentals as moving and shooting will bring your shooting to the next level. Move, shoot off hand, move, shoot kneeling, move shoot prone and practice reloads as needed. Mix it up and have fun with both rifles and handguns.

Contact!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 07:45 PM (R/m4+)

88 I have been shooting with family at a "temporary" range on our farm. Still working on final designs.

However, when I was clearing trees, I found a beautiful little spot for a pistol range. Nestled in one of our tiny bits of forest, the trees create some shade and some sound baffles. There is also a natural backstop with the creek terrace.

It will be much nicer to shoot pistols there in the summer compared to the wide-open rifle range.

Any reason NOT to separate the pistol range from the rifle range? Only one would ever be used at a time.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:45 PM (HlyYF)

89 What Weasel and others said, re tight revolver chambers. Thorough cleaning, then manufacturer or gunsmith if no joy. Personally I wouldn't settle for an ammo change. A properly sized chamber will easily work with any standard factory ammo that's in spec. No reason to settle for less.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 07:46 PM (GcNJ2)

90 Nice range report, sharon!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:47 PM (HlyYF)

91 Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:35 PM (1zxQh)

Can't be helped. I'm trying to get through a backlog of dirty guns when my cold will let me.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:49 PM (yRXSd)

92 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 07:36 PM (t/2Uw)
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Glad it's working for you now.

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 07:49 PM (JwHpX)

93 Hey top 100!
No shooting this weekend - hopping with other stuff. Great to see the blasters having fun. Have a great week all and thanks Weasel

Posted by: Coelacanth at May 05, 2024 07:50 PM (evLTX)

94 lin-duh,

Thanks for the Spawn update. I will be rooting for her in July.

I wish my daughters had worn out the barrel of a rifle. Right now, the keys on a cell phone are only things at risk of catastrophic failure for them!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:50 PM (HlyYF)

95 Most manufacturers will try to make it right for you.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 07:39 PM (/y8xj)

Or they might just have a tip that you haven't thought of (but they know because lots of calls about it).

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:50 PM (1zxQh)

96 12 shots, 8 hits

Posted by: Nato at May 05, 2024 07:40 PM


On critters? Nice!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:53 PM (HlyYF)

97 Had our annual parish team qualification at the range this week. It's the same scoring TN uses for CCL licensing.

Most everyone shot well but a few guys shouldn't have even been there. They seemed completely unfamiliar with their weapons - didn't know how to field strip them at all.

The RSO had his hands full - a few of the guys only shoot this once a year and it shows. Lack of safe weapon handling and poor range discipline was rampant.

Most of the fellas are retired FBI/DEA/State Troopers/etc. so it's not like they have no experience. But time marches on and most of the team is late 70s - and one or two are early 80's. I'm the youngster of the group so imagine what the demographic is.

Sad.



Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 07:53 PM (x7plP)

98 I love restoration weapons video's, started on on a extremely rusted MP-40 but didn't finish it. It was so bad holes were through the weapon, didn't think it was worth it except as a wall decoration.

Time to turn this off. Hope everyone has a great evening

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 07:54 PM (fwDg9)

99 You might even be able to score a deal on one, especially the older 4.25" and 6" satin stainless versions, which have been out the longest.
Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 07:42 PM (yRXSd)

I'm still loving that 4.25" of yours (the 2020). I'm thinking, for me, that's the sweet spot of revolver shooting.

Then, of course, if I win the lotto, I'll get one of everything, and put up a nice display on the wall.

Oh, and thank you (and whig and everyone else) for all the advice and help on everything. Y'all are the best group of folks just about anywhere.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:54 PM (1zxQh)

100 PI. There is no choosing. Two ranges are better than one.
Seriously, though, the use of handguns is short range. Might as well practice at short range. And vice versa.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 07:55 PM (wrDSd)

101 87 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 07:45 PM (R/m4+)

Having aspirations to shoot USPSA someday, I spoke with a guy this weekend who shoots and wins regularly in USPSA open. His advice for developing skills at Run-N-Gun is to do it at home, dry-firing an unloaded pistol, and observing its motion as you move, adjusting your motions so that you would be ready to shoot on target at any time. Quote "there's no reason to go to the range to practice moving with a pistol."

Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:56 PM (oBPoz)

102 In deference to our host, I'm not going to engage in anything political on this thread. However. I watched the documentary "Screams Before Silence" (JJ had a link to it on one of his Morning Reports this week). It relates some of the events of the October 7 massacre through interviews with survivors. Two stories really struck me. The first was a girl relating how her father took a railing from his daughter's bed as the only weapon he could find. The terrorists killed him and several of his children and took the teenaged girl and her mother hostage. The second was a security guard at the music festival hiding (playing dead) and hearing the screams of a girl being gang-raped and murdered yards away. He said, "I wished I had a gun. Maybe I could help."
This is why I carry. And why I practice.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 07:56 PM (3rnQf)

103 Eromero,

I have a hazy memory, that you used to help train LEOs for shooting qualifications?

If so, what did you do differently for the poor shooters to get them up to qualifying level?

(I am never going to be a crack shot like many of the Moron Horde. However, I do need to improve to the level of "competent".)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:57 PM (HlyYF)

104 Rhomboid, what is the fixture beneath that fine looking seegar?

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 07:57 PM (wrDSd)

105 - @61 - the fourth shot

I don't worry about them,,, at least with her. Especially when we're talking an inch out.
And her,,, "There was a wasp on the target I was shooting at."
Gal is a load of fun. Best thing about her is her love of the Lord. And prays for me every day. I'll take having a praying grandmother on my side any day of the week.
Looking forward to pickings to give her from the garden I've put in for her since I met her. 3rd one.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 05, 2024 07:58 PM (xZpzx)

106 I need to check in on Gun Jesus' channel, do so occasionally. He also had an episode or two on flamethrowers (at least the US WWII standard one). And he's turned his fun into a job, which is most excellent.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 07:40 PM (GcNJ2)

Here is Ian when he started out...on his kitchen floor 11 years ago.

GunLab. Before Forgotten Weapons.

Vulcan V15...worst rifle ever.

https://tinyurl.com/2mjxkk83

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 07:59 PM (R/m4+)

107 The RSO had his hands full - a few of the guys only shoot this once a year and it shows. Lack of safe weapon handling and poor range discipline was rampant.

Most of the fellas are retired FBI/DEA/State Troopers/etc. so it's not like they have no experience.


🙄

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 08:00 PM (/y8xj)

108 Any reason NOT to separate the pistol range from the rifle range? Only one would ever be used at a time.

IMHO, they are kind of apples and oranges, so to speak, and should ideally be their own entities. Having said that, you obviously have to work with what ya got.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2024 08:01 PM (mH6SG)

109 PI, having a shady place to shoot from in the summer sounds pretty nice. A little table with a pitcher of lemonade....
I don;t get to shoot outside all that much but the Rifle range in Texas gets pretty darn hot so an alternate spot for those days would be ideal.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 08:02 PM (t/2Uw)

110 "I wished I had a gun. Maybe I could help."
This is why I carry. And why I practice.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 07:56 PM (3rnQf)

Package that with the testimony of the lady from the Luby's shooting in Texas a few decades ago. We live in such a safe society (even, mostly, in Israel) that we just assume the system magically works to keep us safe. Don't believe it - carry. Carry all the time. Carry what you can shoot. (Or, carry what's legal.) Stay alert. And always know that the only real first responder to any badness happening to you is YOU.

The safest place in northern Virginia every other Sunday? Wherever the DMV MGC is eating lunch.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:02 PM (1zxQh)

111 Thanks RI Red.

No one in the family is a hard core shooter. I think making the pistol range more "comfortable" will result in more usage. Which is my ultimate goal.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:03 PM (HlyYF)

112 Re Run&Gun. I’ve found that one of the best byproducts is the familiarization with the mechanics of gun handling: drawing, engaging, mag changes all while under stress and moving.
There’s an old saying that, in a “real” situation, you always operate DOWN to the level of your training (you will not suddenly improve to star status).
It is true.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 08:04 PM (wrDSd)

113 hey weasel indoor steel shoot sounds like a lot of fun.
great thread tonight and yes i remember the green monster video.

Posted by: rancherbob at May 05, 2024 08:05 PM (21WHr)

114 And, to connect to TeeJ's post about the praying grandmother...

Blessed be the Lord, my rock,
who trains my hands for war,
and my fingers for battle;
Psalm 144:1

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:06 PM (1zxQh)

115 Oh, yeah. Hearing protection. It's never too late. A lot of us of a certain age were pretty cavalier about the ear plugs, or had some military experience where they were not an option at the time. Even though you walk around saying "what did you say" or the Bells of St Mary's are ringing that damage might not reverse but you can keep it from getting worse. I use wax earplugs and ear muffs. The reason I brought this up was watching a WW2 video of a Kraut MG42 crew. A Gunner has the muzzle on his shoulder, holding bi pod. Gunner is letting loose with 1100 rpm. A Gunner returned to Swabia and is now known as Kurt the Deaf.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 08:07 PM (V5eKu)

116 109 PI, having a shady place to shoot from in the summer sounds pretty nice. A little table with a pitcher of lemonade....

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 08:02 PM


Your description sounds perfect for my "target demographic". I want it to be fun so wife and daughters can shoot competently if they ever need to IRL, and more family time is always a win.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:08 PM (HlyYF)

117 Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 07:54 PM (1zxQh)

If you go to gun shows or your LGS, keep an eye out for "Blemished" Pythons. These "blemished" guns flunked the final Colt QA check for their finish, so they're sold at a substantial discount, anywhere from $200 to $500 off. The two examples I've handled looked OK at first glance. One had the slip in polishing hidden under the grips, so it wasn't visible unless you removed the grips first. The other was barely noticeable at the edge of the frame by the hammer. If you're going to shoot your Python, this is a great opportunity to save some $$.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 08:09 PM (yRXSd)

118 Howdy rancherbob!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:09 PM (HlyYF)

119 GWB
Looking forward to getting to shoot with you.
Reminder: If you want to shoot with the DMV MGC the day after the VAMoMe, send me an email.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 08:09 PM (t/2Uw)

120 Quote "there's no reason to go to the range to practice moving with a pistol."
Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 07:56 PM (oBPoz)

Excellent advice. You can never go wrong with dry firing practice run and gun in and outside your home if you've got the room, moving, etc.

Just make sure you don't scare the neighbors.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 08:11 PM (R/m4+)

121 Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:02 PM (1zxQh)

After the massacre I remember being flabbergasted to learn how very few Israelis were allowed access to personal weapons. I had figured that there, of all places, most folks would be armed. Just think how the outcome would have been different if a 100, or 200, concert goers had been armed.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 08:11 PM (3rnQf)

122 RI Red, that's a set of Lee 45ACP dies, installed in the turret (I have a 4-hole Lee turret press). And of course cases and bullets on the margins of the photo. Set up to reload God's Own Caliber here soon.

And kudos for responding (wittingly or not) to Duncanthrax's good-natured ribbing in recent weeks about nobody commenting on the cigar pics' backgrounds ....

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 08:12 PM (GcNJ2)

123 Posted by: rancherbob at May 05, 2024 08:05 PM (21WHr
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Howdy, rb! I thought it sounded familiar!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 08:12 PM (RG6z4)

124 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:09 PM (HlyYF)

Howdy pillage idiot!

Posted by: rancherbob at May 05, 2024 08:13 PM (21WHr)

125 If you go to gun shows or your LGS, keep an eye out for "Blemished" Pythons.

If you're going to shoot your Python, this is a great opportunity to save some $$.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 08:09 PM


Great advice. I assume nothing with a tiny defect that could be a safety issue would ever make it out of the factory and to the public? (They are ALL cosmetic?)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:13 PM (HlyYF)

126 To be clear, that eye roll emoji was not directed at Tonypete but at the idea that LEOs as a group are particularly competent when it comes to shooting or gun handling.

Posted by: Ahnuld at May 05, 2024 08:13 PM (/y8xj)

127 /RINO sock from yesterday

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 08:14 PM (/y8xj)

128 Reminder: If you want to shoot with the DMV MGC the day after the VAMoMe, send me an email.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 08:14 PM (t/2Uw)

129 RancherBob!!!

Thank you so very much for inviting so many of us to your property year after year to eat, shoot and celebrate being together. It is just amazing you and Jennifer do this for us. Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 08:15 PM (sFnTw)

130 Rhomboid, it was witting. From someone who is not a whole Wit.
I smoke cigars once every 10 years or so. I think I’m going to have to imbibe again. Maybe TX.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 08:17 PM (wrDSd)

131 Howdy pillage idiot!

Posted by: rancherbob at May 05, 2024 08:13 PM


I hope your cattle are currently converting prodigious amounts of grass into beef since you explained the current market conditions to them!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:17 PM (HlyYF)

132 Kind of a different range report: I turned 70 when Covid hit and I quit going to the range. Now 74 I told myself to get off my butt and go do some shooting. I took two pistols - a .380 and a .22. I didn't go for "training" but just to see if I could still hit the broad side of a barn. GREAT FUN. Got to talk to younger shooters, let them try out my two pistols and just remembered how fun shooting can be. I'm not going to do my 7mm Rem Mag but there are a bunch of guns in my safe that need exercise in the future!

Posted by: oldgeezer at May 05, 2024 08:19 PM (Wb5vb)

133 114 Blessed be the Lord, my rock,
who trains my hands for war,
and my fingers for battle;
Psalm 144:1

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:06 PM
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Amen.

Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 08:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

134 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:13 PM (HlyYF)

Correct. Slips in the polishing process for the finish before the guns ship only. No problems with the revolver's operation. The finish on the new Pythons are, I think, among the best production finishes found today, even if they can't hold a candle to the old-school polishing methods using walrus hides on the polishing wheel and polishing media as fine as flour.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 08:21 PM (yRXSd)

135 After the massacre I remember being flabbergasted to learn how very few Israelis were allowed access to personal weapons. I had figured that there, of all places, most folks would be armed. Just think how the outcome would have been different if a 100, or 200, concert goers had been armed.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 08:11 PM


That was exactly my same thought.

There are frequently pictures on the internet of attractive IDF ladies apparently off duty but still toting their service rifles in public. I guess there was some observational bias due to cuteness rather than frequency in the posting of those photos.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:21 PM (HlyYF)

136 Posted by: oldgeezer at May 05, 2024 08:19 PM (Wb5vb)
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Very nice!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 08:22 PM (JwHpX)

137 Set up to reload God's Own Caliber here soon.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2024 08:12 PM


Looking forward to your range report!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 08:23 PM (a3Q+t)

138 - @115
What's that ya said Bill?
Former asst gunner on 155 towed. Ear plugs? Can't hear commands being shouted.
Just hold your mouth open when firing, they said.
It'll equalize the pressure, they said.
Tack on 15 stage years with a snare betwixt my legs and...

Posted by: TeeJ at May 05, 2024 08:23 PM (xZpzx)

139 As I understand it, Israelis were and are allowed access to personal weapons, but have to apply. They, like many of us, forgot the importance of being able to defend themselves. I also learned that since Oct 7 the number of applications has sky rocketed. Lesson learned.

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 08:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

140 I'm hoping this ablation works on Friday so I can CC again. Too uncomfortable now.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 05, 2024 08:25 PM (PZo5T)

141 Thanks for another good Gub Thread, Weasel!

Thanks for all of the advice and entertainment, Horde!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:26 PM (HlyYF)

142 Random questions for those who carried/carry as LEO or military: Did/do you have a discipline for frequency of cleaning? If so, was it a best practice/something you learned or adopted or was it mandated for you?

Mostly curious how organizations avoid letting their people get lazy.

Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

143 My pleasure, PI!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 08:27 PM (JwHpX)

144 138 Was that you TeeJ? Damn birds are chirping.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 08:28 PM (V5eKu)

145 Eromero,

I have a hazy memory, that you used to help train LEOs for shooting qualifications?

If so, what did you do differently for the poor shooters to get them up to qualifying level?

(I am never going to be a crack shot like many of the Moron Horde. However, I do need to improve to the level of "competent".)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 07:57 PM (HlyYF)
Pillage Idiot, I’ve had training from LEOs but I’ve never trained LEOs. My firearms training is from military service and defense contractors (plenty ammo). These days I train for defense situations, basic shoot/move/withdraw. Hits on man-size targets, reload, don’t trip over my feet. Anything further is get to my long gun, at my age maneuver is for the young. This is my reality, yours may be different.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 08:28 PM (NxC5+)

146 Well, time for an AR10 range report:
Last week I finally found the node that was less than an inch at 100.
So, because I can’t leave well enough alone, I worked on bullet seating depth. Starting from near mag length to down a bunch (term of art).
50 rounds later I can report that the books are right. My original length was best.
I did forget my tripod, so no velocity info. The last three depths, however, were clearly gaining speed rapidly, going from left .5 and down .5 to right .5 and up 2.0.
No pressure signs on the brass other than a bit of extractor scrape.
So, science experiment over. Next range trip I’ll start moving out to distance.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 08:28 PM (wrDSd)

147 Lin-duh,
Have you experimented with off badly carry? I picked up a leather crossbody purse that has a holster pocket. It is a little clunky, but I'm getting smoother with the draw on it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 08:29 PM (KFH84)

148 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 05, 2024 08:21 PM (HlyYF)

I heard/read that a lot of the Israeli settlers (who are far more likely to be armed than your average Israeli) were mostly disarmed in the late 1980s and early 1990s because of their tendency to embark on "Earp Vendetta Rides" against local Palestinians when attacked. Not sure if this is true or not, though. But we're a long way from the days when the Uzi was ubiquitous among the kibbutzniks.

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 08:29 PM (yRXSd)

149 Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

In the Marine Corps, a dirty weapon was an abomination and a stench in the nostrils of the Almighty. Weapons were cleaned after every firing session, in garrison or in the field. We cleaned our M16s every day for 3 consecutive days after firing.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 08:31 PM (3rnQf)

150 Nurse, “off badly carry” is discouraged on the GT!

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 08:32 PM (wrDSd)

151 - oldgeezer

Holy cow! There's someone here older than me!
My friend, I had a muzzle break put on my 7. Helps a ton. Though it only gets a scope check before season then one freedom seed per deer.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 05, 2024 08:32 PM (xZpzx)

152 We cleaned our M16s every day for 3 consecutive days after firing.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 05, 2024 08:31 PM (3rnQf)

Wow.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:32 PM (1zxQh)

153 Nurse,
Luckily I am surrounded by State troopers when downtown at work. I need to look at an off body option but I'm picky

Posted by: lin-duh at May 05, 2024 08:34 PM (PZo5T)

154 A problem the Israelis have with being a true Second Amendment country is maybe 15% of the citizens are Arab, loyal right now, but who do you trust? Now, do we want to pass out firearms permits only to the Jewish (bad optics) or let everybody go for it. I would go with the latter as those with nefarious thoughts are already armed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 08:34 PM (V5eKu)

155 I think the israelis were worried that lots of guns in the hands of civilians would end up in terrorsts hands. Remember that israel is a very integrated society. that being said, 100's of thousands of permits have been issued since 10/7.
When you see gun toting personnel, it is usually off duty military personnel. even back in the day when i was there,you could get on a bus and be squished up against a guy carrying an AR.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 08:35 PM (t/2Uw)

156 Since scopes were mentioned: Midway USA has Zeiss scopes on sale for 30+% off, with free shipping.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:35 PM (1zxQh)

157 Thanks pillage idiot, but they're just rabbits. Park up 20-30 yds downwind from the warren and wait 15mins until one pops out and stands still. Misses are embarrassing under those conditions.

Posted by: Nato at May 05, 2024 08:35 PM (ciuRb)

158 Trying to figure out holsters and on-body position for concealed carry seems almost harder than learning to shoot well. I think I finally have something that will work.

Posted by: Splunge at May 05, 2024 08:35 PM (oBPoz)

159 Mostly curious how organizations avoid letting their people get lazy.
Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 08:27 PM


IME, Gunnery Sergeants and Chief GMs can be quite motivating when it comes to avoiding any lassitude regarding weapons cleaning.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 08:36 PM (a3Q+t)

160 bill said what I was trying to say, only better.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 08:36 PM (t/2Uw)

161 There are at least two other companies making cigars with perique in the blend - Connecticut Valley Tobacconist, and the big Philippines tobacco company, Tabaclera Incorporada.
Posted by: rhomboid

Philippines tobacco?
That was an interesting sidebar. Went to their webpage and read up on it a bit... Wifey is filipina and she mentioned taking a tour of tobacco fields while in school there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 08:36 PM (cOq4q)

162 BTW, Blaster, I trust you appreciate having the lovely SRA Blaster as part of your fire team.
A keeper for sure.

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 08:38 PM (wrDSd)

163 Hello gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

I am joining late because I was doing my second favorite thing (behind practicing fundamentals) which is running brake lines. Whooee is that fun!

But now it is dark. I have gub stuff to tell.

Posted by: blaster at May 05, 2024 08:38 PM (IFNME)

164 *off body carry

Autocucumber strikes again

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 08:38 PM (1WD7A)

165 2 Random questions for those who carried/carry as LEO or military: Did/do you have a discipline for frequency of cleaning? If so, was it a best practice/something you learned or adopted or was it mandated for you?

Mostly curious how organizations avoid letting their people get lazy.
Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 08:27 PM (
Thorough cleaning after range, as needed normal climate/air quality. Bi-monthly inspection log.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 08:39 PM (NxC5+)

166 Another bit, on buying ammo...
I finally set up my Ammo Squared account and am putting monthly amounts into buying various range ammo. It might cost a little bit more than other places, but I can put in small amounts of money and have it ship when I have enough in there. Sort of like an ammo mutual fund.

Posted by: GWB at May 05, 2024 08:39 PM (1zxQh)

167 Did/do you have a discipline for frequency of cleaning? If so, was it a best practice/something you learned or adopted or was it mandated for you?

Posted by: TRex at May 05, 2024 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

If I went to the range for the Army, everything that went to the range had to get cleaned before calling it a day. On deployment, I'd clean everything once a week or after every patrol. It's been nearly forty years, but I can still hear Sergeant Major Barton and Master Sergeant Mann saying, "Have you finished cleaning your weapon, Mister, or are you just shamming?"

Posted by: Ed L at May 05, 2024 08:40 PM (yRXSd)

Food Thread: Cake...The Final Frontier

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Great cake...does it exist? Sure, but I think the topic is a bit more complicated than just throwing a ton of chocolate and frosting in and hoping it all works out. And even the frosting gets a little weird. Too many are just sugar bombs that feel like they are are rotting one's teeth with the first bite. And frosting hides a multitude of sins, most egregious being dry cake. Except it doesn't really hide that dusty, crumbly, sort-of-gross mouthfeel that a dry cake gives.

Oh, and another thing...don't use the same frosting in the layers as on the outside! I want some contrast, damn it! In fact, some of the best cakes I have ever eaten had a tart fruit based filling between the layers, which I think works perfectly with the sweeter frosting.

But not too sweet! Do I have to repeat myself again? And that's quite a trick, because frosting is sugar. But some bakers know how to do it, and that is a truly impressive thing. When the filling is delicious and the frosting is interesting but not too sweet and the cake is moist and flavorful, then that means that the stars have aligned and all is right in the world...at least for a few minutes.

Yeah...cake is complicated. There is a reason why great cake bakers are in demand.

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US fast-food chains may have to amp up promotions as more people eat at home

Gee...I wonder why?

Inflation is now baked into the cake (SWIDT>). The Fed probably won't raise interest rates, the government is spending like a drunken sailor, and the destruction of the labor force (minimum wage, regulation, welfare, etc) will keep wages high, so there is very little downward pressure and a whole lot of upward pressure on prices. And have you noticed...fuel costs are rising!

The profit margins in the restaurant industry are brutal, and while McDonalds can probably handle an extended run of even more pricing pressure, I can't imagine how the smaller restaurants are doing.

My sense is that even well-off folks are decreasing their discretionary spending. That's based on all sorts of anecdotal evidence, but I would lay money that I am correct.

Home cooking is going to make a big comeback. That's why you should tune in here every Sunday!

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I probably sound like a broken record, but damn! This technique plus a delicious marinade is a great and easy combination.

The technique is simple. Trimmed bone-in thighs on top of a bed of sliced onions. Lots of them! Then into the oven for about 30-40 minutes at 425.

The marinade was all of my leftover cilantro, blended with Dijon, honey, garlic, olive oil, salt and pepper, half a small onion, and half a Jalapeño. I left the chicken in the marinade for a full day, and I think that was the important step.

When the chicken looks good, remove it from the skillet and return the onions to the oven until they brown a bit and the liquid mostly evaporates. Five minutes?

Then eat!

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That is a composite cork, which has become quite popular with inexpensive wines. And that's sad, because screw-tops are much better, but more expensive. Those composite corks are irritating for both esthetic and practical reasons. Esthetically? They are ugly. Practically? They seem denser than real cork, and many cork screws don't work as well in them.

Sure...that's a classic First-World ProblemTM, but still!

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This guy is not screwing around. Bacon in the bread. Bacon in the cheese. Bacon in the meat. Bacon in the sauce.

Mother of Baconator looks delicious, and a whole lot of work!

But all that bacon! Yum!

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From "The lurker sometimes known as Marty" comes an interesting photo. He seems to be testing his new griddle (a marvelous piece of cooking equipment!) with an interesting combination of salmon steaks and bear steaks!

I really like salmon, but have been cooking fillets rather than steaks for many years. One reason is that I like salmon steaks on the grill, and I suck at cooking fish anywhere near fire. Yeah...they usually stick a bit, and that disturbs my OCD! The other reason is that I have a bunch of solid recipes for fillets that are easy and delicious, so...I just stopped grilling salmon.

As for bear? I have eaten it, and I find it just okay. It is entirely possible that the bear I have eaten was not processed or prepared correctly, so I will reserve judgement, especially since that bear looks pretty damned good!

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[Hat Tip: Misanthropic Humanitarian]

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Good butter, and Flap Meat...whatever the hell that is...just send it, Broccolini that isn't $6/bunch, garlic...lots of garlic!, well-marbled hanger steaks and elk chops to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Who are those poor deluded souls who shake their Manhattans? These are the same people who drink fine bourbon with coke, and probably shake red wine with ice too.

However, I will give dispensation to those who use maple syrup on Brussels Sprouts! I tried that and it worked nicely. I still prefer Agave, but still...

And yes, I used to demand fancy bourbon, but let's face it, $1,200 for a bottle of bourbon is just stupid, insulting, and a ghastly affront to most people's palates and wallets. I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM




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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:01 PM (fwDg9)

2 SPONGE cake!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 04:02 PM (llON8)

3 Making cheesesteak after race is over

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:02 PM (fwDg9)

4 Great cake...does it exist? Sure, but I think the topic is a bit more complicated than just throwing a ton of chocolate and frosting in and hoping it all works out.
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Yes. It's carrot cake with the density of a light-duty brick, covered with adequate amounts of heavy - and decadent - cream cheese icing.

Otherwise, I can take or leave cake. German chocolate's alright. But my categories for cake are, "good carrot cake" and "other."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:03 PM (HnUIn)

5 I'm a rookie; but, the content was *so* good!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:05 PM (HDU5E)

6 But we've just done Chocolate: the final food frontier.
There is nothing better than chocolate, wait .... Bird's custard?

Posted by: Ciampino - no food for Hamas at May 05, 2024 04:05 PM (qfLjt)

7 Home cooking is going to make a big comeback. That's why you should tune in here every Sunday!
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I'm an inexperienced cook. Uncreative and fairly unskilled. I am getting better because I have to, because I am cooking at home *way* more than I used to (used to be very little, and with lots of prefab stuff). It doesn't have to do with money at the moment, but the other problem with restaurants and take-away: quality and nutritiousness.

If you want to lose weight (and I do), you can't be spending time in restaurants. Restaurant food is not as good for you as making something yourself where you have a modicum of control (yes, there are exceptions).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:05 PM (HnUIn)

8 I just discovered there is a YouTube channel called The Sideboob Kitchen. But I don't know what it's about.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 05, 2024 04:06 PM (JLq/1)

9 I just discovered there is a YouTube channel called The Sideboob Kitchen. But I don't know what it's about.
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 05, 2024 04:06 PM (JLq/1)
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Boobs are good for many things. Cooking and eating are not one of those things...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:07 PM (HnUIn)

10 Let's lose our minds and go crazy crazy
Ah ya ya ya ya I keep on hoping we'll eat cake by the ocean (huh)...

Oh look, Martini Time! One olive only please...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 04:07 PM (R/m4+)

11 I have a combined food and FWP.
I needed honey for a banana bread I was making in the bread machine.
The FWP? All the honey was crystalized, *all of it*.
Solution sous vide to the rescue. In water up to the level of the honey at 112F, it has been 2.5 days to liquify 90% of the 5lbs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:09 PM (HDU5E)

12 I make one cake.
Chocolate chip butterscotch cake with a chocolate glaze. Fun to do and delicious.
I suck at everything else.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:11 PM (W/lyH)

13 You are stuck with synthetic corks because a lot of people are stuck on the notion that a screw top wine is a bad wine. Sorry, I didn't make the rules.

Posted by: Fozzy at May 05, 2024 04:11 PM (/Jyns)

14 Restaurant food is not as good for you as making something yourself where you have a modicum of control (yes, there are exceptions).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:05 PM (HnUIn)

Absolutely!

And once you get reasonably good at cooking, you will be able to beat the restaurants in quality as well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:12 PM (4BhOX)

15 4 Great cake...does it exist? Sure, but I think the topic is a bit more complicated than just throwing a ton of chocolate and frosting in and hoping it all works.

My sons agree with CBD. You must have a different filling vs the frosting. My 1st son loves dark chocolate cake with a salted caramel (coconut) filling and dark chocolate frosting. My 2nd son loves chocolate cake with sweetened and salted peanut butter and a vanilla peanut butter frosting.

I'm partial to dark chocolate cake with a cherry filling or a neopolitan cake (vanilla cake, strawberry jam or pie filling, chocolate frosting, chocolate covered strawberries to decorate)...but I also love my son's 2 choices.

And speaking of changing flavors. Youngest son made me cookies - he wanted espresso chocolate chip cookies (aka, Tollhouse allergy free cookies with a full TB of instant espresso powder whipped into the fat) - damn, they are good...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:12 PM (exHjb)

16 You are stuck with synthetic corks because a lot of people are stuck on the notion that a screw top wine is a bad wine. Sorry, I didn't make the rules.
Posted by: Fozzy at May 05, 2024 04:11 PM (/Jyns)
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Cork > Fake Cork > Screw Top > Box > Hobo jug

The middle two are actually swapped as you said, but that's the perception

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:12 PM (HnUIn)

17 And once you get reasonably good at cooking, you will be able to beat the restaurants in quality as well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:12 PM (4BhOX)
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I'm a ways off from that, but I'm also only five months in and no longer burn water.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (HnUIn)

18 The marinade was all of my leftover cilantro, blended with Dijon, honey, garlic, olive oil, salt and pepper, half a small onion, and half a Jalapeño.
Posted by: CBD

CBD, what would you substitute for the cilantro if your Betterhalf suffered from the cilantro tastes like soap genetic defect?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (HDU5E)

19 The biology department where I work hosted it's annual "Microbe Luncheon" this past week.

Always an interesting array of sausages, cheeses, and breads, along with more exotic fare such as the "quorn nuggets" (not too bad) and various probiotic beverages.

And of course, we have the popular "vegemite/marmite/limburger" challenge.

I finally worked up the nerve to try the limburger. I only had a tiny bit, so it wasn't very overpowering. Vegemite and marmite, on the other hand are just not my thing.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (BpYfr)

20
One reason is that I like salmon steaks on the grill, and I suck at cooking fish anywhere near fire

Never fail salmon. Fish grill basket:

https://www.amazon.com/RTTs-Fish-Grill-Basket-Detachable/
dp/B0BFJ7R45Y/

/ hopefully doesn't bust margins

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 04:14 PM (RKVpM)

21 The cakelet in the photo is really beautiful.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:15 PM (o3SCB)

22 18 The marinade was all of my leftover cilantro, blended with Dijon, honey, garlic, olive oil, salt and pepper, half a small onion, and half a Jalapeño.
Posted by: CBD

CBD, what would you substitute for the cilantro if your Betterhalf suffered from the cilantro tastes like soap genetic defect?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (HDU5E)

Parsley is the norm cilantro sub...but really, if it's green and herby, it likely works...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:16 PM (exHjb)

23 2 SPONGE cake!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 04:02 PM (llON

haha!

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:16 PM (o3SCB)

24 I guess that cakelet in the photo is really a torte.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:17 PM (o3SCB)

25 I'm a ways off from that, but I'm also only five months in and no longer burn water.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (HnUIn)


Technique...technique...technique.

Knife work. Controlling temperature in pans. A few other things.

Unless you are a retard, your learning curve should be steep.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:18 PM (4BhOX)

26 There is a reason why great cake bakers are in demand.

Then you get someone like Jack Phillips, who is apparently the only cake maker in the entire state of Colorado.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 05, 2024 04:18 PM (lXCUP)

27 And once you get reasonably good at cooking, you will be able to beat the restaurants in quality as well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:12 PM (4BhOX)
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I'm a ways off from that, but I'm also only five months in and no longer burn water.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (HnUIn)
***

The only way to get better is to jump in with both feet. Gonna screw up for sure (once did a cup of salt for the cookies vice a cup of sugar) (oopsies!)
But its worth it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:18 PM (W/lyH)

28 Great cake...does it exist? Sure, but I think the topic is a bit more complicated than just throwing a ton of chocolate and frosting in and hoping it all works out.

I dunno, that right there sounds like a pretty tasty recipe to me.

Posted by: Paco at May 05, 2024 04:19 PM (njExo)

29 27 Gonna screw up for sure (once did a cup of salt for the cookies vice a cup of sugar) (oopsies!)
Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:18 PM (W/lyH)

yum

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:20 PM (o3SCB)

30 My wife is a very good cook and baker. I think one of the highlights was when she made the small version of a chocolate stout cake. It weighed three pounds and was damn good.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 05, 2024 04:20 PM (lXCUP)

31 that right there sounds like a pretty tasty recipe to me.

Posted by: Paco at May 05, 2024 04:19 PM (njExo)


Heh...I love this place.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:20 PM (4BhOX)

32 Last night, mother hubbard's cupboard was bare (spent $205 at Aldi's today, and would have spent more, but they were out of the sale ground beef)...but amazed my spouse with an eel (thank you Hmart) and baked tofu teriyaki stir fry (old broccoli slaw bag, bell peppers, gray squash, carrots, onions, ginger, parsley, and garlic) over rice.

My spouse has decided that if he gives me fresh produce and pretty much any proteins, I can whip something up that he'll get 2nds and 3rds on (and finish for lunch today with eggs). I'd never made last night's dish, but desperation is the mother of invention...

PS - If you ever chuck tofu in a stir fry, always prebake with seasoning, fat, and cornstarch - you get nice chunks vs broken up sludge that way...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:21 PM (exHjb)

33 Re bad cakes, preach on. I like good moist dense cakes with creamy frosting, but the majority seem to be dry, flavorless sponge with crusty sugary frosting. In fact, at my wedding there was a "groom's pie" instead of a "groom's cake" for that reason. I occasionally find a good cake, but the most loved bakeries in my part of Tennessee crank out lousy dry cakes. I've completely given up on cupcakes, which always look so good and invariably disappoint.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 05, 2024 04:21 PM (d9Cw3)

34 I discovered cheesecake very late in life .... yummy.
Really favorites are not really cakes but pudding-adjacent such as tiramisu, zuppa inglese, trifle. Give me plain Bird's custard, hot or cold, solid or semi-runny anytime.

Posted by: Ciampino - no food for Hamas except pork at May 05, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

35 Gonna screw up for sure (once did a cup of salt for the cookies vice a cup of sugar) (oopsies!)
Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:18 PM (W/lyH)

yum
Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:20 PM (o3SCB)

Ahhhh.....
Alcohol may have been involved.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:21 PM (W/lyH)

36 Favorite cake is carrot cake with cream cheese frosting.
Truluck's in Houston makes the best.

Here's the recipe-
tinyurl.com/46czm5et

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

37 No mention of Red Velvet or German Chocolate until comments.

CBD is pushing a false narrative!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:22 PM (di6C2)

38 Technique...technique...technique.

Knife work. Controlling temperature in pans. A few other things.

Unless you are a retard, your learning curve should be steep.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:18 PM (4BhOX)
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Yeah. I'm not pursuing it enthusiastically. When I get off work, I just want to eat something. I also don't eat much anymore, and so do one thing and then parcel it out and have it for like a week.

But yeah, getting better and not so nervous about fouling things up. If I foul it up, all it costs me is money.*

Once I get laid off, I'll probably do a lot more of it, even if just to keep boredom at bay!

* Except for big stuff. I hosted Pesach this year. The week before, I did a test leg of lamb. Never made one before. I wanted to run the risk of ruining the test run, not the real run. It was fine, but I did dial it in a bit when I did it for real. On the down side, I don't want lamb again anytime soon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)

39 Kroger's had brisket on sale this week - $2.99/lb. So I bought a big one and portioned it out at home. Tried a new rub recipe and then a long, slow cook.

The rub was too sweet for my taste so, I won't make it again. Next time, hotter and spicier.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:23 PM (WXNFJ)

40 >>Great cake...does it exist?

Yes. My grandmother's Vienna Cake.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:23 PM (LkLld)

41 I discovered cheesecake very late in life .... yummy.
Really favorites are not really cakes but pudding-adjacent such as tiramisu, zuppa inglese, trifle. Give me plain Bird's custard, hot or cold, solid or semi-runny anytime.
Posted by: Ciampino - no food for Hamas except pork at May 05, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)
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I forgot about cheesecake! I don't really think of it as cake, which might be a weird personal idiosyncrasy.

Good carrot cake and good cheesecake. All others are in the "other" category.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:24 PM (HnUIn)

42 It's hard not to like any cake, unless it includes vegetables

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:24 PM (fwDg9)

43 Tonight, we're having burgers (with the fixin's), curly fries, an Aldi's salad bag, and strawberries and blueberries.

B/c I cooked more than planned Saturday, so this is a semi-night off.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:25 PM (exHjb)

44 Kroger's had brisket on sale this week - $2.99/lb. So I bought a big one and portioned it out at home. Tried a new rub recipe and then a long, slow cook.

The rub was too sweet for my taste so, I won't make it again. Next time, hotter and spicier.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:23 PM (WXNFJ)
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It is probably sacrilegious, but so be it, but brisket is basically idiot proof in an Instant Pot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:25 PM (HnUIn)

45 Cheesecake imo, is not a cake or a pie, but a gift from God all it's own thing.

The REALLY dense stuff you could use to shield a nuclear reactor with too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:25 PM (di6C2)

46 If you ever chuck tofu in a stir fry, always prebake with seasoning, fat, and cornstarch - you get nice chunks vs broken up sludge that way...

Wife has been doing the occasional experiment with vegan recipes and she tried tofu. I will pass on that advice to her.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 05, 2024 04:25 PM (lXCUP)

47 Kroger's had brisket on sale this week - $2.99/lb. So I bought a big one and portioned it out at home. Tried a new rub recipe and then a long, slow cook.

The rub was too sweet for my taste so, I won't make it again. Next time, hotter and spicier.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:23 PM (WXNFJ)


Hey.
Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:26 PM (W/lyH)

48 Sorry Joe,
Carrot cake sucks. It's just gross. Heavy, too sweet and cream cheese frosting is akin to shmegma.

And cheesecake is just as nasty.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:26 PM (4cBer)

49 Sorry Joe,
Carrot cake sucks. It's just gross. Heavy, too sweet and cream cheese frosting is akin to shmegma.

And cheesecake is just as nasty.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:26 PM (4cBer)
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This sounds like a simple and routine disagreement about tastes and preferences.

Sadly, we are now mortal enemies. 'Tis a shame.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:27 PM (HnUIn)

50 Cheesecake is wonderful. Pretty much the ONLY good thing still coming out of NYC.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:28 PM (di6C2)

51 Hey.
Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?
Posted by: Diogenes

20lb.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:28 PM (HDU5E)

52 Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?
Posted by: Diogenes

Probably 8-10 lbs. It will shrink when cooking and you'll still have some leftover for tomorrow.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:28 PM (WXNFJ)

53 46 If you ever chuck tofu in a stir fry, always prebake with seasoning, fat, and cornstarch - you get nice chunks vs broken up sludge that way...

Wife has been doing the occasional experiment with vegan recipes and she tried tofu. I will pass on that advice to her.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 05, 2024 04:25 PM (lXCUP)

https://cookieandkate.com/ how-to-make-crispy-baked-tofu/

This is tiny bit more complicated than I do it - and I use dry seasonings vs the soy sauce...but it's a good place to start and play. Once you have the tofu baked (and seasoned with what you're using - yesterday, that was ginger, garlic, salt and pepper for me), you can do anything with it...stir fry, Thai curry, Indian sauce, etc...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:28 PM (exHjb)

54 Geeze AZ deplorable - you must be hungry!!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (WXNFJ)

55 Wife made biscuits and gravy yesterday. The sausage used in the gravy was too salty. It was like the prep for a colonoscopy. With the same results.

Posted by: Ronster at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (gH5oX)

56 I am typically a skilled baker. I don't have a lot of success with cakes, but it's probably because I don't keep cake flour on hand and I also like to use butter over veg oil.

I made an orange cake recently with cream cheese buttercream frosting, and it tasted good, but was pretty dense. I think the butter sort of hardens the cake, whereas the vegetable oil would have made it softer.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (OX9vb)

57 19
I finally worked up the nerve to try the limburger. I only had a tiny bit, so it wasn't very overpowering. Vegemite and marmite, on the other hand are just not my thing.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 04:13 PM (BpYfr)
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I have been eating Marmite since grade school days in Kenya and our house always has some. Love it. Most people put too much and then say they don't like it. Try a smidge with butter or marge on saltines and other crackers, particularly if you are hungry. Also can include cheese.

Posted by: Ciampino - no food for Hamas except pork! at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (qfLjt)

58 51 Hey.
Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?
Posted by: Diogenes

20lb.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:28 PM (HDU5E)

52 Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?
Posted by: Diogenes

Probably 8-10 lbs. It will shrink when cooking and you'll still have some leftover for tomorrow.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:28 PM (WXNFJ)

I give you the Horde Advice columns.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (di6C2)

59 Hey.
Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?
Posted by: Diogenes

1lb (purchased) for each and then you have to decide how much you want for lunch sandwiches.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (HDU5E)

60 38 When I get off work, I just want to eat something. I also don't eat much anymore, and so do one thing and then parcel it out and have it for like a week.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)

I've spooned leftovers over a bed of lettuce, sometimes a bed of rice--sometimes both! Helps to keep a bag of washed and torn lettuce and a tupperware of cooked rice in the fridge so they're ready to go.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (o3SCB)

61 Chocolate chili cake. I make it the day before and refrigerate it. Comes out moist and dense. Top it with what ever you want.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (mKjJV)

62 I always have Truluck's carrot cake on my birthday.
They drizzle it with a caramel sauce and pecans.
Yum! Yum! Yum!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (NpAcC)

63 Once I get laid off, I'll probably do a lot more of it, even if just to keep boredom at bay!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)


Doing a lot more cooking when you are laid off will also keep poverty at bay.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (4BhOX)

64 42 It's hard not to like any cake, unless it includes vegetables
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:24 PM (fwDg9)

Carrot cake?

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:31 PM (o3SCB)

65 55 Wife made biscuits and gravy yesterday. The sausage used in the gravy was too salty. It was like the prep for a colonoscopy. With the same results.
Posted by: Ronster at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (gH5oX)

It is hard to ruin gravy...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:31 PM (di6C2)

66 I am typically a skilled baker. I don't have a lot of success with cakes, but it's probably because I don't keep cake flour on hand and I also like to use butter over veg oil.

I made an orange cake recently with cream cheese buttercream frosting, and it tasted good, but was pretty dense. I think the butter sort of hardens the cake, whereas the vegetable oil would have made it softer.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

I substitute whole milk instead of the water usually called for. That should soften it up a bit even with the butter used.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:32 PM (WXNFJ)

67 I've spooned leftovers over a bed of lettuce, sometimes a bed of rice--sometimes both! Helps to keep a bag of washed and torn lettuce and a tupperware of cooked rice in the fridge so they're ready to go.
Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (o3SCB)
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Yup. I make a big salad and sometimes a pot of rice when I'm doing up whatever protein I'll be having that week. Usually no rice, though sometimes I do it. I'm not specifically avoiding carbs, but what you get for them in exchange for the calorie cost just isn't very good so I usually abstain.

This week, though, I have decided to learn how to make mashed potatoes properly. My dad makes absolutely killer mashed potatoes, and I am going to try his recipe (which is only sort of a recipe, because he just goes by eye every time and sort of guessed at giving me directions). If they turn out, it's gonna be a potato week.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:32 PM (HnUIn)

68 Doing a lot more cooking when you are laid off will also keep poverty at bay.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (4BhOX)
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Heh. It'll probably cost me *more* than it does right now because, because I'll ruin more food LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)

69 Geeze AZ deplorable - you must be hungry!!
Posted by: Tonypete

Heh, he didn't say how many were going to be around for lunch or if they were big eaters!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:33 PM (HDU5E)

70 Posted by: Ronster at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (gH5oX)

But a good biscuit will redeem almost anything...including a wife with poor salt control!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:33 PM (4BhOX)

71 And cheesecake is just as nasty.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:26 PM (4cBer)

Whaaaaat? Even I like cheesecake!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 04:34 PM (OX9vb)

72 >>>My grandmother's Vienna Cake.
~~~~~

Is that the Sachertorte one? Because I had that in Innsbruck and it was indeed delicious. Then again, I'm a true chocoholic.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 05, 2024 04:34 PM (3ImbR)

73 Transfer to dutch oven, add more milk. Gravy should be better.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:34 PM (di6C2)

74 It's hard not to like any cake, unless it includes vegetables
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:24 PM (fwDg9)

Worked with a gal once who was a vegan hippie broad with bad taste. She always brought carrot cake in for birthdays, celebrations, just because, etc, etc.

I hate carrot cake. I told her if she didn't cut it out there would be violence.

She then went in for the kill. She started bringing in Banana Bread.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 04:35 PM (R/m4+)

75 68 Doing a lot more cooking when you are laid off will also keep poverty at bay.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (4BhOX)
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Heh. It'll probably cost me *more* than it does right now because, because I'll ruin more food LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)

Do you have a ... dog, Joe Mannix?

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:36 PM (o3SCB)

76 She then went in for the kill. She started bringing in Banana Bread.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 04:35 PM (R/m4+)
******
Love banana bread too.
As well as pumpkin, zucchini and date nut bread.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 04:37 PM (NpAcC)

77 Thanxs Horde for the brisket advice. I have a great meat shop down the road. SNL is going to help me with the smoker.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:37 PM (W/lyH)

78 77 Thanxs Horde for the brisket advice. I have a great meat shop down the road. SNL is going to help me with the smoker.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:37 PM (W/lyH)

Ever since Norm left, they have sucked.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (di6C2)

79 I made a triple layer chocolate cake from scratch for #1 son's birthday a bit ago. Raspberry filling between the layers and peanut butter buttercream frosting.

The cake used dark cocoa, coffee and melted dark chocolate chips. Very light and fluffy. And not particularly sweet. The raspberries gave a nice fruit and the peanut butter buttercream was light and sweet.

Very good with a snort of Woodford Reserve.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (zS0hd)

80 >>Otherwise, I can take or leave cake. German chocolate's alright. But my categories for cake are, "good carrot cake" and "other."


Apple cake is divine!
No frosting needed, though it's amazing w/vanilla ice cream and caramel sauce. . .

https://tinyurl.com/3szzmdaf

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (cCVOS)

81 45 Cheesecake imo, is not a cake or a pie, but a gift from God all it's own thing.

The REALLY dense stuff you could use to shield a nuclear reactor with too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:25 PM (di6C2)
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Well if you substituted some of the sugar with lead acetate (sugar of lead - sweet) it would shield some from radiation but poison the ingester unfortunately.

Posted by: Ciampino - Somebody served Papaver somniferum? at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (qfLjt)

82 Do you have a ... dog, Joe Mannix?
Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:36 PM (o3SCB)
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I do not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)

83 Apple cake is divine!
No frosting needed, though it's amazing w/vanilla ice cream and caramel sauce. . .

https://tinyurl.com/3szzmdaf
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (cCVOS)
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That does look good, yeah.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:39 PM (HnUIn)

84 The best cake is dump cake. FIGHT. ME!!!

As soon as the rain lightens up, I'm going to harvest my rhubarb and prep it for the freezer. Rhubarb is the key ingredient for some great desserts!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 05, 2024 04:40 PM (fxCK2)

85 Doing a lot more cooking when you are laid off will also keep poverty at bay.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 04:30 PM (4BhOX)
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Heh. It'll probably cost me *more* than it does right now because, because I'll ruin more food LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)
***
When I'm too tired to cook but need to fix something, thats when the bier/wine comes out. Somehow it all gets better.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:41 PM (W/lyH)

86 My MiL was a fantastic baker, there almost always was something good to be had on weekends

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:41 PM (fwDg9)

87 My mom used to make a chocolate chip cake. Chocolate cake, filling and chips with chocolate frosting.

It was chocolate. Dig it?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 04:41 PM (Q4IgG)

88 My Birthday was yesterday and my wife had asked what kind of cake did I want. My wife had always had or bought a special cake for the day. When she asked I replied "A Pound Cake". That is what i always remember having on my Birthday growing up. Pound cake with Strawberries, sometimes simple is good.

Posted by: Picric at May 05, 2024 04:41 PM (13tTk)

89 65 55 Wife made biscuits and gravy yesterday. The sausage used in the gravy was too salty. It was like the prep for a colonoscopy. With the same results.
Posted by: Ronster at May 05, 2024 04:29 PM (gH5oX)

It is hard to ruin gravy...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:31 PM (di6C2)

I want to 2nd the poster who said dilute it with more dairy. If it's then too thin, do a cornstarch slurry to thicken it (vs cooking it down b/c then you'll be back to too salty).

If that still fails, add a heap ton of black pepper or tabasco. Heat distracts from salt, so it won't taste as salty even if it is. Sour also distracts, but I'm not thinking you want sour on your biscuits and gravy, but if you do, go for it...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:41 PM (exHjb)

90 >>This week, though, I have decided to learn how to make mashed potatoes properly.

Cream cheese is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:42 PM (LkLld)

91 Rum cake. Done right, it is amazing.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (R4t5M)

92 Joe Mannix,
You have to taste Your food while you're cooking and adjust seasoning as you go. And don't think you have to cook everything to death. A good pork chop can still be a little pink in the middle. Duck breast, medium rare.

And drunk cooking can yield some amazing food. Too bad I can't always remember what I did.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (DE/Ic)

93 65
It is hard to ruin gravy...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:31 PM (di6C2)
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Yes but I know at least 2 people who burnt water.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm getting hungry now at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (qfLjt)

94 Love banana bread too.
As well as pumpkin, zucchini and date nut bread.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 04:37 PM (NpAcC)

They train young bakers to drop zucchini bread on people. But their culinary instructors won't allow them to write 'zucchini' on their bread pans because it is obscene.

The horror...the horror...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (R/m4+)

95 It is hard to ruin gravy...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:31 PM (di6C2)
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Oh no it isn't. Just ask me.

It is my next project after mashed potatoes. I've never managed to *not* ruin a gravy. I will, however, crack it. Eventually. My mom (who also sucks at gravy) calls it the "gravy gene" and asserts that she doesn't have it. I don't have it, either. I will, however and come hell or high water, learn to make a passable gravy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (HnUIn)

96 My Birthday was yesterday and my wife had asked what kind of cake did I want. My wife had always had or bought a special cake for the day. When she asked I replied "A Pound Cake". That is what i always remember having on my Birthday growing up. Pound cake with Strawberries, sometimes simple is good.
Posted by: Picric at May 05, 2024 04:41 PM (13tTk)
*******
Pound cake definitely tastes better with the strawberries. I also add whipped cream.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 04:44 PM (NpAcC)

97 90 >>This week, though, I have decided to learn how to make mashed potatoes properly.

Cream cheese is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:42 PM (LkLld)

Honestly, the secret is to use the right types of potato, peel and fully cook your potato, hand mash, and don't skimp on salt and fat and fluid (but don't go stupid with it like restaurant chefs)...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:45 PM (exHjb)

98 Cream cheese is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.
Posted by: JackStraw

Cream cheese, whole milk and a couple of eggs. I want a boatload of fat in my 'taters.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:45 PM (WXNFJ)

99 You have to taste Your food while you're cooking and adjust seasoning as you go. And don't think you have to cook everything to death. A good pork chop can still be a little pink in the middle. Duck breast, medium rare.

And drunk cooking can yield some amazing food. Too bad I can't always remember what I did.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (DE/Ic)
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I do the former, yeah. I go through a lot of spoons.

As to being drunk, well, maybe. Or I get a big insurance payout. Or my beneficiaries get a big insurance payout. Regardless, though, I suppose someone walks away a winner!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:45 PM (HnUIn)

100 This week, though, I have decided to learn how to make mashed potatoes properly.

Cream cheese Half and Half is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:42 PM (LkLld)

Fixed.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:45 PM (W/lyH)

101 Cream cheese is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:42 PM (LkLld)
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Hmmm. I could see it. I am more familiar with sour cream.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:46 PM (HnUIn)

102 It is my next project after mashed potatoes. I've never managed to *not* ruin a gravy. I will, however, crack it. Eventually. My mom (who also sucks at gravy) calls it the "gravy gene" and asserts that she doesn't have it. I don't have it, either. I will, however and come hell or high water, learn to make a passable gravy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:43 PM (HnUIn)

Butter or grease or just throw a pound of sausage in there.
Flour.
Heat until yellow.
Milk.
Stir and wait.
Gravy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:46 PM (di6C2)

103 98 Cream cheese is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.
Posted by: JackStraw

Cream cheese, whole milk and a couple of eggs. I want a boatload of fat in my 'taters.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 04:45 PM (WXNFJ)

You Philistines make no mention of butter.

George Washington is disappointed in you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (di6C2)

104 83 Apple cake is divine!
No frosting needed, though it's amazing w/vanilla ice cream and caramel sauce. . .

https://tinyurl.com/3szzmdaf
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (cCVOS)
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That does look good, yeah.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:39 PM (HnUIn)
*****
Yes. I think I would love this.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (NpAcC)

105 Butter or grease or just throw a pound of sausage in there.
Flour.
Heat until yellow.
Milk.
Stir and wait.
Gravy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:46 PM (di6C2)
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Yes. I understand theoretical gravy. It looks easy. It should be easy. For people who aren't me, it apparently *is* easy.

But there is a huge gulf between Gravy Theory and Practical Gravy at casa de Mannix!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (HnUIn)

106 Not cake, but Morning Glory muffins are so good - and they're stuffed with all sorts of goodies, including: apples, carrots, coconut, pineapple, pecans and dried cranberries (*not* raisins). YUM!


https://tinyurl.com/yw3xe3u2

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (cCVOS)

107 74
She then went in for the kill. She started bringing in Banana Bread.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 04:35 PM (R/m4+)
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I like banana bread. Then I love bananas and I have 2-3 every day. Go great with all my pills in the morning, followed by coffee.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm getting hungrier now at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (qfLjt)

108 DIY Baconator sounds like a labor of love.
I might try everything except for the cheese. I'll substitute smoked jalapeno jack for the bacon-cheddar.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 04:48 PM (HDU5E)

109 Apple cake is pretty damn good.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 04:48 PM (R4t5M)

110 >>Fixed.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:45 PM (W/lyH)

This is not an either or thing. Both. But the cream cheese makes me do Homer Simpson noises.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:48 PM (LkLld)

111 I like banana bread. Then I love bananas and I have 2-3 every day. Go great with all my pills in the morning, followed by coffee.
Posted by: Ciampino - I'm getting hungrier now at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (qfLjt)
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I know a surprising number of people who hate bananas. I don't get it, but hey. To each his own. More for me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:48 PM (HnUIn)

112 I used to eat out all the time. Whatever the hot restaurants were, the Michelin big boys, that’s where I was. (Some of the big boys were mediocre, btw.)

Then I started getting bored with all the stupid hoops they made you jump through for reservations, the declining quality relative to increasing prices, and I started losing interest. Then Covid hit and I was like “fuck this.”

Now I rarely go out. I cook at home or occasionally order in. I’m no expert chef, but there’s a few of my specialties that always get rave reviews from dates. How much better could Jockey Wonder Awesome Celebrity Chef make it?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 04:49 PM (HJSnT)

113 But there is a huge gulf between Gravy Theory and Practical Gravy at casa de Mannix!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:47 PM (HnUIn)

Mammaw could seemingly make perfect sausage gravy out of nothing.

If was like a superpower. On a tier list, she would rank above Nightcrawler and the Dazzler.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:50 PM (di6C2)

114 I've been making that apple cake for years.
Bake it in a 9x13 pan and serve as coffee cake.
Bake in loaves and give to friends.
Bake it in a bundt pan + toppings and serve as a birthday cake.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:50 PM (cCVOS)

115 I dislike Banana I think for the same reason I dislike Marshmallow and Molasses. I like clean sweetness. All of the above give me a syrupy, slightly off flavor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:51 PM (di6C2)

116 Thanks for the gravy advice. I'll just be glad when it's gone. We don't throw away anything around here.

Posted by: Ronster at May 05, 2024 04:51 PM (gH5oX)

117 Poppyseed cake is very good as well.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:51 PM (DE/Ic)

118 Grandma Aspirin Factory made apple cake like a coffee cake. It was yummy.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 04:51 PM (R4t5M)

119 ... Then I started getting bored with all the stupid hoops they made you jump through for reservations, the declining quality relative to increasing prices, and I started losing interest. Then Covid hit and I was like “fuck this.” ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 04:49 PM (HJSnT)
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I've done the fine dining thing. Not often, but more than a few times. I don't get it. To me, it seems like the food is beside the point - it has to be good, of course, or the place will fail, but it doesn't have to be crazy wonderful - as compared to exclusivity. It's about who *doesn't* go to those places.

And fair enough. Atmosphere and milieu are entirely marketable. I just get uncomfortable when I'm surrounded by an army of servants who melt into the background. I actually don't like being waited on by obsequious staff like I'm some old-world monarch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:52 PM (HnUIn)

120 I’m not a cake guy. Never was. I’ll eat a NY cheesecake here and there, but otherwise I don’t eat cake or even any dessert at all. It’s all just empty calories to me. I’d rather spend my calories on a nice fat steak or ribs or fried food.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 04:53 PM (HJSnT)

121 Happy belated birthday Picric
.i.i.i.
(_____)

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:53 PM (fwDg9)

122 >>Cream cheese is the secret to great mashed potoatoes.

Don't tell anyone.


OMG, yes!! This is the best recipe - used for Thanksgiving several times:
https://tinyurl.com/48rnh8tz

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:53 PM (cCVOS)

123 This stuff just finds me:

https://tinyurl.com/6se5dne6

1:59:27.

Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:54 PM (di6C2)

124 Boston cream pie is a cake.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 04:55 PM (cOq4q)

125 ++++
Boobs are good for many things. Cooking and eating are not one of those things...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Oh, wait, wait...never mind.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 04:55 PM (lCWOD)

126 I should have said OT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 04:56 PM (di6C2)

127 I've become increasingly frustrated with the quality of food vs price at restaurants around here. Plus, there seems to be no consistency. So, I go out less than once a month now. I'd rather cook.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:56 PM (t4NLJ)

128 116 Thanks for the gravy advice. I'll just be glad when it's gone. We don't throw away anything around here.
Posted by: Ronster at May 05, 2024 04:51 PM (gH5oX)

If diluting it doesn't help...make potato chowder with it, and add it in as part of the "broth" adding part...you can dilute REALLY well with potatoes (and the celery/carrot/onion) that love salt..

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 04:57 PM (exHjb)

129 The kids are coming for dinner so we're having a baked brie, and stuffed eggplants on pasta.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 04:57 PM (RIvkX)

130 I've become increasingly frustrated with the quality of food vs price at restaurants around here. Plus, there seems to be no consistency. So, I go out less than once a month now. I'd rather cook.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:56 PM (t4NLJ)
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I have a small rotation of restaurants that fall into the "worth it" category. Most are not. I have one in its own category of "not worth it on its merits, but the setting is so sensational that I'll put up with it,"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:57 PM (HnUIn)

131 We actually like the Instant Mashed Potatoes (Aldi). Dad (me) is particularly favored for this. I substitute half the water with whole milk. When it's thick just right I add a lot of butter.
I like the half-n-half idea, will try it in place of some of the milk.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm getting really hungry at May 05, 2024 04:57 PM (qfLjt)

132 I've been making that apple cake for years.
Bake it in a 9x13 pan and serve as coffee cake.
Bake in loaves and give to friends.
Bake it in a bundt pan + toppings and serve as a birthday cake.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 04:50 PM (cCVOS)
***

In Niederndorf Germany (where Elke Sommers grew up) is a little shop that makes an apple cake (appfelkuchken) that is absolutely melt in your mouth good!
Well, forty years ago they did. Probably doing kebabs now.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:58 PM (W/lyH)

133 One of our student workers had his birthday this past week. We asked him what his favorite cake was and he said, "Gooey Butter Cake."

He's from St. Louis, so that's not really a surprise. It's a local delicacy around those parts.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 04:58 PM (BpYfr)

134 The kids are coming for dinner so we're having a baked brie, and stuffed eggplants on pasta.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 04:57 PM (RIvkX)
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Nice. Very nice.

I am mildly allergic to eggplant (it makes my lips burn, and if I eat too much of it, my lips/face will go numb). I love eggplant, though, so I just put up with it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:58 PM (HnUIn)

135 Eating at home is healthy and cheaper.

Cooking is easier than you think.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 04:58 PM (RIvkX)

136 BTW I have had very good results with that instant mash in thickening other dishes, instead of corn starch. Great in a minestrone and gravy.

Posted by: Ciampino - ravenous at May 05, 2024 05:00 PM (qfLjt)

137 Boobs are good for many things. Cooking and eating are not one of those things...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

When the directions say place into oven and bake at 350* for 35 minutes, ya gotta fill the time someway...

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 05:01 PM (W/lyH)

138 Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 04:49 PM (HJSnT)
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I've done the fine dining thing. Not often, but more than a few times. I don't get it. To me, it seems like the food is beside the point - it has to be good, of course, or the place will fail, but it doesn't have to be crazy wonderful - as compared to exclusivity. It's about who *doesn't* go to those places.

And fair enough. Atmosphere and milieu are entirely marketable. I just get uncomfortable when I'm surrounded by an army of servants who melt into the background. I actually don't like being waited on by obsequious staff like I'm some old-world monarch.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 04:52 PM (HnUIn)
————

You are indeed paying a premium for super-attentive service, which I tend to agree makes me uncomfortable. I think it’s mainly for the ladies, to indulge their princess fantasies. When they bring out those idiotic little tables for the lady’s fucking handbags I’m like “are you for real,” but the ladies squeal with delight. And since the guy is almost always paying the bill, appealing to his date is good business. I did the same back in the day when I was a waiter

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:02 PM (HJSnT)

139 You are indeed paying a premium for super-attentive service, which I tend to agree makes me uncomfortable. I think it’s mainly for the ladies, to indulge their princess fantasies. When they bring out those idiotic little tables for the lady’s fucking handbags I’m like “are you for real,” but the ladies squeal with delight. And since the guy is almost always paying the bill, appealing to his date is good business. I did the same back in the day when I was a waiter
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:02 PM (HJSnT)
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Yup, I can see that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 05:03 PM (HnUIn)

140 >>When they bring out those idiotic little tables for the lady’s fucking handbags I’m like “are you for real,” but the ladies squeal with delight.


Huh. Never heard of those. I guess if you bring along a handbag that cost the equivalent of a mortgage payment you don't want to set it on the floor?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 05:07 PM (cCVOS)

141 You are indeed paying a premium for super-attentive service, which I tend to agree makes me uncomfortable. I think it’s mainly for the ladies, to indulge their princess fantasies. When they bring out those idiotic little tables for the lady’s fucking handbags I’m like “are you for real,” but the ladies squeal with delight. And since the guy is almost always paying the bill, appealing to his date is good business. I did the same back in the day when I was a waiter
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:02 PM (HJSnT)
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Yup, I can see that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 05:03 PM (HnUIn)
———-

As a waiter, you learn quick that if you want big tips, you make damn sure the ladies get the Princess treatment. If she is happy, he is happy, and if he is happy, you get a nice tip.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:07 PM (HJSnT)

142 New omelet:

Omelet with leftover cottage pie. Yes, with a ketchup lattice on top. I'm not an animal.

Verdict: The pot-roast omelet was better. But not by much.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 05:07 PM (IG4Id)

143 Inflation is now baked into the cake

I had an interesting experience yesterday. I took part in our annual neighborhood garage sale. I usually make most of my money from getting rid of the comic books I’m never going to read again. I grew up in the seventies so even at garage sale prices that’s a few hundred dollars each year. (I’m only very slowly going through them, so there are “new” ones every year.)

Yesterday, the comic book people, who are normally their first thing in the morning, didn’t show at all. But it wasn’t a total loss, because the bargain tubs that normally people ignore—literally a ten cent tub for kid’s toys, a twenty-five cent tub, two fifty-cent tubs (one for clothes and one for junk), and the dollar tub were practically emptied by the end of the morning.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 05:08 PM (EXyHK)

144 >>As a waiter, you learn quick that if you want big tips, you make damn sure the ladies get the Princess treatment. If she is happy, he is happy, and if he is happy, you get a nice tip.


And a female waitress who flirts shamelessly with your (male) date. . .?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 05:09 PM (cCVOS)

145 And a female waitress who flirts shamelessly with your (male) date. . .?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 05:09 PM (cCVOS)
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Raked across the face?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 05:10 PM (HnUIn)

146 143 Inflation is now baked into the cake

I had an interesting experience yesterday. I took part in our annual neighborhood garage sale. I usually make most of my money from getting rid of the comic books I’m never going to read again....

Yesterday, the comic book people, who are normally their first thing in the morning, didn’t show at all. But it wasn’t a total loss, because the bargain tubs that normally people ignore—literally a ten cent tub for kid’s toys, a twenty-five cent tub, two fifty-cent tubs (one for clothes and one for junk), and the dollar tub were practically emptied by the end of the morning.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 05:08 PM (EXyHK)

You make choices and entertainment is 1st to go.

At Aldi's today, the 4lb ground beef packs were sold out. They had the small packs not on sale, but I didn't buy, instead getting the Angus burgers (on sale) and a carnitas pork butt for the crockpot (not "on sale", but always uber cheap compared to a ground beef meal)...I was only gonna spend X amount for dinner proteins, so I did. Now, I have different ones than planned. Inflation forces you to accept "good enough" vs "good".

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 05:13 PM (exHjb)

147 Mrs. Paco once made a cake called, I think, a torte de mil ojas (cake of a thousand layers). The layers were thin as crepe, almost, and in between each layer was a slathering of caramel. I'm sure it was probably like screwing a cork into your aorta, but, Wow!, what a way to go.

Posted by: Paco at May 05, 2024 05:14 PM (njExo)

148 My idea of "fine dining" is a restaurant with a view and that serves things I can't make at home. My brother and I ate roasted duck while watching freighters go by with all their lights reflecting on the water. Expensive place, but worth it.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 05, 2024 05:15 PM (fxCK2)

149 >>torte de mil ojas

Sounds delicious!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 05:15 PM (cCVOS)

150 Hello horde, after an esophagus scarring experience in Paris years ago at a place famous for Cassoulet ,I swore off Cat Soufflé as we called it.

I had it severed as the accompaniment to a delicious pork chop last Thursday. The pork belly cassoulet may have been better than the chop. It was really good.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 05, 2024 05:16 PM (l6het)

151 Our local cake shop went out of business. Sad - they made our wedding cakes (chocolate and Italian cream). $40 each, they used to cost. Not terrible for a special occasion now and then. Mama loved their brownies - big pieces with chocolate chunks, moist and decadent. They settled on $4.25 for a price point, which worked for me.

We had to go up to Strossner's for Publius' birthday cake. $49 for an 8" cake, which I can understand is too pricey for many. But the worst was those cheese cookies (I guess you call them cheese straws). $13 for a plastic clamshell of them, maybe 2 dozen. Just ridiculous. Mama got a box of plain and also the ones with a pecan on top. Those 2 boxes cost the same as half of that cake. I mean, really.

So I think I need to find a good recipe for cheese straws. I have no problem using a fork instead of fussy cutting.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 05:18 PM (w6EFb)

152 I've been trying to lose weight lately, and the absolutely most effective technique is NOT EATING OUT. And I say that as someone who absolutely loves going to restaurants.

Especially things like breakfasts and lunches. When you make your own, those meals are 2-300 calories. At a fast food joint it's doubled or tripled. Basically you're having a dinner-size meal.

Once I get down to fighting weight, maybe I can relax my rules a little, get a burger once or twice a month, but that's it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 05:20 PM (78a2H)

153 I took Mrs.D.out to her birthday dinner at the Officer's Club at Ft Huachuca. They brought out the wine bucket for the champagne. First time she had experienced that. She loved it!
And i got lucky later.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 05:21 PM (W/lyH)

154 Bear is hard to get right. The meat itself is dependent on what the bear itself has been eating. Mostly a crapshoot. Then it has to be prepared right.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:22 PM (HJSnT)

155 Hello horde, after an esophagus scarring experience in Paris years ago at a place famous for Cassoulet ,I swore off Cat Soufflé as we called it.

I had it severed as the accompaniment to a delicious pork chop last Thursday. The pork belly cassoulet may have been better than the chop. It was really good.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 05, 2024 05:16 PM (l6het)

I recall a cartoon in the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers where the people are surrounded by cassoulet and they're so damned sick of cassoulet, but of course at least they're surviving.

Zoom out and you see their underground shelter is on the remaining sliver of the planet. Haha!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 05:23 PM (w6EFb)

156 As a kid camping we often had instant mash potatoes. They were OK but haven't had them since then.
I don't mind peeling and making mashed potatoes

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:23 PM (fwDg9)

157 Chantilly cake to the rescue.

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 05:23 PM (8I4hW)

158 OK, time to make the hummingbird feeder stuff and plant tomatoes - enjoy the remainder of your weekend!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 05:24 PM (cCVOS)

159 OK, time to make the hummingbird feeder stuff and plant tomatoes - enjoy the remainder of your weekend!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 05:24 PM (cCVOS)
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Good luck on the tomatoes!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 05:24 PM (HnUIn)

160 Too much bacon overwhelms the taste of the food and ends up making the whole dish taste like … bacon. I use bacon and things like prosciutto sparingly, to add some nut-tingling but not overpowering.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:25 PM (HJSnT)

161 I have one in its own category of "not worth it on its merits, but the setting is so sensational that I'll put up with it,"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Oh! The local Waffle House!!

Ackshully, there is a local place: Vegas Steakhouse that is a throwback to the late 60's/early 70's as far as décor and ambiance go. The food is very good but it is more the setting and characters that inhabit the place that set it apart. The staff has worked there for decades and they know everyone. We usually eat in the 'Lounge' for the overheard stories, pink flamingos and dusty 'palm trees'.

The gals there know how to make a drink - not the fru fru soyboy garbage but the old standards. Love the place.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 05:25 PM (IaTa3)

162 >>I've been trying to lose weight lately, and the absolutely most effective technique is NOT EATING OUT. And I say that as someone who absolutely loves going to restaurants.

I've been in business to business sales my entire career with a lot of travel which means I've eaten in a lot of restaurants. A lot.

It takes a lot of discipline which I lack to not put on weight when you eat at restaurants a lot.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 05:25 PM (LkLld)

163 I don't mind peeling and making mashed potatoes
Posted by: Skip


Do you prefer the starchy 'taters like Russet or the waxy like Yukon Gold?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 05:27 PM (IG4Id)

164 Chef!

How are you? Is WY warming up yet?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 05:28 PM (dI/h/)

165 Yukon Gold make the best but Russets get used often

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:30 PM (fwDg9)

166 Red potatoes are for potato salad

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:30 PM (fwDg9)

167 I just made the Yukon Gold mash last week. Seemed smoother, and a leetle more colorful. But peeling them bastiches was a pain.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 05:31 PM (IG4Id)

168 And to be on topic, one of my favorite cakes:

Almond-Vanilla Torte

Layers: ¾ cup butter; 5/8 cup sugar; 5/8 cup finely chopped almonds; 1 tbsp cream; 5 tbsp flour

Filling: 1-½ cup whipping cream; ½ tsp vanilla; ¼ cup powdered sugar

Cream the butter and sugar until fluffy. Stir in the almonds, cream, and flour. Spread a quarter of the batter thin to the edge of a large pancake griddle and bake at 425° until brown. Cool and turn out on a flat surface. Repeat for three more layers.
Beat cream to soft peaks, add vanilla, and continue beating, adding powdered sugar gradually, until stiff peaks form. Spread between cake layers.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 05:32 PM (EXyHK)

169
Crotchety Old Jarhead asked for this recipe:

https://tinyurl.com/yc6w2zym

My fam likes it with walnuts, so I fold them in before pouring batter in loaf pan

Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 05:33 PM (2njrJ)

170 The best place in the world to get cake is, surprisingly,-

Japan!

One use great ingredients, take great care in the baking, and...here's the important part...

don't make them too sweet.

i rarely eat cakes made here anymore. Though there is one nearby Frog-inspired place what makes a very nice Sachertorte, but-

that's it.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2024 05:33 PM (eDfFs)

171 149 Sounds delicious!! - Lizzy at May

Indescribably so! And washed down with a demitasse of cafe cubano - rapture!

Posted by: Paco at May 05, 2024 05:34 PM (njExo)

172 Burnt-Almond Torte. Great cake.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 05:34 PM (R4t5M)

173 Cinco de quatro today so -

Grilled fajitas, beef and chicken, with all the fixins, guac, margaritas.

Yum!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2024 05:35 PM (eDfFs)

174 A quirk but Lando Norris of McClaren wins in Miami
Sadly K Mag was 11th out of points

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

175 Joe,
Make certain you make potato pancakes with your leftover mashed potatoes.

Take refrigerated leftovers, form into a puck, press into seasoned flour and fry in hot butter until crispy on the outside.

Garnish with sour cream and scallions.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 05:36 PM (4IYrQ)

176 154 Bear is hard to get right. The meat itself is dependent on what the bear itself has been eating. Mostly a crapshoot. Then it has to be prepared right.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:22 PM (HJSnT)
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Its last meal may have been the hunter's partner from 3 days ago.

Posted by: Ciampino - long pig bear anyone? at May 05, 2024 05:38 PM (qfLjt)

177 Make certain you make potato pancakes with your leftover mashed potatoes.

Take refrigerated leftovers, form into a puck, press into seasoned flour and fry in hot butter until crispy on the outside.

Garnish with sour cream and scallions.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 05:36 PM (4IYrQ)
++++
I'll try that :-)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 05:38 PM (HnUIn)

178 167 I just made the Yukon Gold mash last week. Seemed smoother, and a leetle more colorful. But peeling them bastiches was a pain.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 05:31 PM (IG4Id)

If you've got a food mill, you could just cook the potatoes whole or quartered, then run them through the food mill to mash and separate from the peels.

Of course, cleaning the food mill afterward might negate the labor savings.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 05:40 PM (OX9vb)

179 What is fenugreek?

Whatever it is, it sounds terribly, terribly teh ghey. And worse, they don't sell it at any of the local markets.

Soooooo, here's a great chicken soup recipe, that's stupidly easy too make (my wheelhouse), so leave the elusive fenugreek out cuz it doesn't seem to make any difference....still delicious!

Here's the recipe:

Golden Chicken Soup

https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/fenugreek-

turmeric-chicken-soup

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2024 05:41 PM (eDfFs)

180 Of course, cleaning the food mill afterward might negate the labor savings.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!


If I made my own tomato gravy I'd invest in one, but, yeah, kinda not worth it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 05:43 PM (IG4Id)

181 Mashed Potatoes ... For special occasions, a fun idea to serve these to young children is to scoop them into flat-bottomed ice cream cones (which are not sweet).

Posted by: Kathy at May 05, 2024 05:46 PM (p69D5)

182 It's National Hoagie day today, so got hoagie fixings for lunch this week

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:46 PM (fwDg9)

183 I love this stuff:

https://fever-tree.com/en_US/products/
elderflower-tonic-water#regular

Fever Tree Elderflower tonic water. I don't even know what elderflower tastes like, but this stuff has the most fragrant and fresh grapefruit flavor --- mmmm!

But there's a related FWP. I can't buy this flavor in town. I have to wait to buy it when I go to the city.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 05:46 PM (Sf2cq)

184 Joe Mannix, if there is a cooking or kitchen store near you they may offer classes. I took a 12 week series years ago on the fundamentals of cooking. Each week was a new technique and the homework assignments were fun and instructional. It was a great launching pad for a true novice.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 05, 2024 05:47 PM (l6het)

185 My wife has discovered lentils. I'm not upset about that. They're not bad. She's getting creative with seasonings.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 05:48 PM (Q4IgG)

186 What is fenugreek?

A great spice. I use it in curry powder. Great on popcorn! It’s sort of partway between a savory spice and a cinnamony spice.

I don’t know how easily available it is. I probably get it at a nearby Indian grocery store.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 05:48 PM (EXyHK)

187 Hilarious cake decorations

https://tinyurl.com/3vrskc5x

Posted by: Ciampino - long-pig bear steaks anyone? at May 05, 2024 05:48 PM (qfLjt)

188 154 Bear is hard to get right. The meat itself is dependent on what the bear itself has been eating. Mostly a crapshoot. Then it has to be prepared right.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2024 05:22 PM (HJSnT)
----
Its last meal may have been the hunter's partner from 3 days ago.
Posted by: Ciampino - long pig bear anyone? at May 05, 2024 05:38 PM (qfLjt)
***

He was the slower of the two.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 05:51 PM (W/lyH)

189 It's okay with me if a cob nukes 6ijCF.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 05:52 PM (Sf2cq)

190
Here's a recipe from that Hazan Lady, the Queen of Italian Cooking,

Tomato Sauce with Onion and Butter

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1015178-

marcella-hazans-tomato-sauce

You won't believe Just. How. Easy. this is.

And sooo delicioso!!! Really.

Give this one a try. You may never make another spaghetti sauce again.

Made it this week cuz I needed to make a quicky dinner. Great stuff!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2024 05:54 PM (eDfFs)

191 Hey Nurse. We are doing great. Spring walked by and waved ten days ago and hasn’t been back. Winter holds on a little longer but the grass is growing and the promise of warmer days is tangible.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 05, 2024 05:54 PM (l6het)

192 Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 05:33 PM (2njrJ)

Thanks, Kallisto!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 05:59 PM (YRsIm)

193 Ever hear of a Smorgastarta?
It's a Swedish sandwich cake.
Google it for lots of images.

Posted by: Kathy at May 05, 2024 06:00 PM (p69D5)

194 Whats a good size brisket for 6 people to cover dinner and sammiches the next day?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 04:26 PM


Only one day of sammiches?

Try to get a brisket from the left side. They're more tender, since they don't get used as much.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:06 PM (a3Q+t)

195 Grilling smash burgers and potato wedges tonight.

Daughter's making a romaine, strawberry, blueberry, pecan salad with raspberry vinaigrette dressing. Not sure what else she's throwing in. Should be interesting.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 06:07 PM (ju2Fy)

196
Made pizza tonight. Pizza sauce in short supply everywhere and or price through the roof.

Aldi's .87/can tomato soup. Did quite okay.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 06:14 PM (RKVpM)

197 Did I break the blog?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 06:14 PM (ju2Fy)

198 Nope

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 06:14 PM (ju2Fy)

199 I think they all headed out simultaneously to be a Diogenes' place for leftover brisket.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 05, 2024 06:16 PM (l6het)

200 Nurse! No cheesecake? Seriously? Grew up on Junior's version in NY, and now make my own. For special occasions!

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 06:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

201 Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2024 05:54 PM (eDfFs)

Marcella Hazan!

That's her simple.sauce recipe, and it shouldn't be that good...but it is!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 06:19 PM (4BhOX)

202 Made pizza tonight. Pizza sauce in short supply everywhere and or price through the roof.

Aldi's .87/can tomato soup. Did quite okay.
Posted by: Divide by Zero


The sauce is the easier thing for me. I gave up trying to make a round 'za and just use a sheet pan now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 06:20 PM (IG4Id)

203 I think they all headed out simultaneously to be a Diogenes' place for leftover brisket.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 05, 2024 06:16 PM


An 8 to 10 lbs brisket ain't gonna leave a whole lot of leftovers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:20 PM (a3Q+t)

204 Bacon and onion, and chorizo sausages on the grill along with corn. Fresh slaw in the fridge. Fresh rolls waiting to be toasted. Sausage hoagies with elote and a cold beer. That's what's for dinner.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 06:20 PM (YRsIm)

205 I never quite got on the smash burger locomotive. I

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 05, 2024 06:22 PM (pDQ/8)

206 26/
Well, if Jack Phillips is the only baker in CO, then you best have a homing pigeon to find him. He is in a light industrial park, way at the back, and you need to know where he is...you are not going to ride past and stop.
Nice man though. Patient and kind. The complete opposite of the evil left who are trying their best to ruin him

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 06:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

207 And cheesecake is just as nasty.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 04:26 PM (4cBer)


Someone's cranky!

I'll make you a cheesecake and add geoduck to it. You'll probably like that...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 06:22 PM (4BhOX)

208 Try to get a brisket from the left side. They're more tender, since they don't get used as much.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:06 PM (a3Q+t)

Unless it's Australian beef. They walk in the opposite direction!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 06:24 PM (4BhOX)

209 I never quite got on the smash burger locomotive. I
Posted by: Dr. Bone


It makes for a great 'diner' patty, which is preferable to the 'steak' burger, IMHO. Just let the meatball rest in the fridge for 10 min or so before smashing it on the griddle.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 06:25 PM (IG4Id)

210 During the siege of Ladysmith in December 1899, a British soldier relates:

"Boer guns sent us greeting in the shape of shells that did not explode. When dug up they were found to contain rough imitations of plum-pudding that had been partly cooked by the heat of explosion in gun barrels. On the case of each shell was engraved in bold capitals, "With the Compliments of the Season." This was the Boer gunner's idea of subtle irony, he being under the impression that everybody in Ladysmith must be then at starvation point."

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2024 06:26 PM (CM7e9)

211 I don't get the hate for the cheesecake. I had a friend whose mom made cheesecake with a cherry topping that I could eat every day. It was probably my most favorite pie, right behind chocolate bourbon pecan pie.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 06:26 PM (YRsIm)

212 We brought Jack Phillips Masterpiece Cakeshop cupcakes to a Colorado Morondezvous. They were marvelous! And nobody asked about my orientation when I bought them.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 06:27 PM (Sf2cq)

213 Um, these are the cops you like. ( wow, that could have gone wrong )

@Breaking911 42s
GOOD NEWS ALERT: Man called 911 asking for a happy birthday wish, Boston police officers show up with cake

twitter.com/Breaking911/status/
1787247319856869601

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 06:28 PM (IG4Id)

214 It's chilly enough for something to warm my body and soul
A glass of cognac

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:30 PM (fwDg9)

215 I get Hunts plain tomato sauce in small cans

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:32 PM (fwDg9)

216 An 8 to 10 lbs brisket ain't gonna leave a whole lot of leftovers.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Might have been why I suggested 20lb brisket to start....

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 06:36 PM (HDU5E)

217 196
Made pizza tonight. Pizza sauce in short supply everywhere and or price through the roof.

Aldi's .87/can tomato soup. Did quite okay.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 06:14 PM (RKVpM)

My Aldi's has been out of Aldi's canned tomato soup for weeks. I've now bought Campbell's, b/c the youngest loves this, and will make it for lunch.

Today, they were also out of the (on sale) ground beef and pepperoni. Since I'm planning pizza for the kids this week, I'll have to grab pepperoni elsewhere...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 06:36 PM (exHjb)

218 Police reveal the bizarre reason why surfers were targeted in Mexico

https://mol.im/a/13385325

Posted by: Ciampino - longpig bear steaks anyone? at May 05, 2024 06:38 PM (qfLjt)

219 Had Campbell's tomato soup with fresh chives, grilled cheese and ham slice for lunch

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:39 PM (fwDg9)

220 Okay kids...off to the bar. It will be a crapshoot. If the bartender is a retard I'll order something simple. Like beer.

But if he has a brain, or is a chick and has a nice rack, I'll order something interesting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 05, 2024 06:40 PM (4BhOX)

221 Tomorrow, I'm gonna make a new spin on a dish.

I'm thinking of Sloppy Jane's. Safeway had lean ground turkey for $1.99/lb last week. I still have leftover Aldi's turkey stock from Thanksgiving and some bottled BBQ sauce. I'm thinking of browning off the turkey with some onion, adding some flour (in the little fat there is), and then a touch of stock and BBQ (and salt and pepper), and having a sloppy mix.

Then serving with microwave bacon slices (2 per sandwich) and sliced avocado (to make up for all the fat you usually get with "Joe")...

It's like a turkey burger meets a turkey club meets a sloppy joe. Mentally, I think this works...but we'll see what the kids think...it was much cheaper than to go beef, even with the bacon and avo, which were both also on sale today...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 06:41 PM (exHjb)

222 It's like a turkey burger meets a turkey club meets a sloppy joe. Mentally, I think this works...but we'll see what the kids think...it was much cheaper than to go beef, even with the bacon and avo, which were both also on sale today...
Posted by: Nova Local


Potato starch will help keep it less sloppy, if'n you have some. Fry one side, add the starch, then mash it up in the pan, then add the sauce.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 06:43 PM (IG4Id)

223 Does anybody grind their grass fed ground beef into hamburger?
The ground beef from the steer we bought is more of a chili grind, and makes great chili; but, it doesn't hold together for hamburgers and is too lean as well.
I asked for the beef fat so I can mix it in to get approx 20%.
Just wondering if it 'works' or not?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 06:44 PM (HDU5E)

224 There is an excellent recipe for grilled turkey written by a genius in TDG.

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 06:45 PM (JwHpX)

225 Potato starch will help keep it less sloppy, if'n you have some. Fry one side, add the starch, then mash it up in the pan, then add the sauce.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 06:43 PM (IG4Id)

Where's the fun in less sloppy. I don't have potato starch - I do have cornstarch, and a slurry is my back up option if the turkey doesn't have enough fat (the 93% stuff was on sale - I don't normally cook with it, but antibiotic and all "free" protein for under $2/lb couldn't be left in the store)..

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 06:45 PM (exHjb)

226 How 'bout them Rangers!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 06:47 PM (LkLld)

227 Leave the ground turkey. Take the cheesecake.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 05, 2024 06:48 PM (u73oe)

228 227 Leave the ground turkey. Take the cheesecake.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 05, 2024 06:48 PM (u73oe)

I wish I could still eat the cheesecake!

Posted by: Nova Local at May 05, 2024 06:50 PM (exHjb)

229 Might have been why I suggested 20lb brisket to start....
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 06:36 PM


I was nodding my head at your suggestion. With a packer cut, you're going to trim 2-3 lbs off the fat cap, and I generally dig some out of the vein between the flat and the cap, then you're going to lose another 15-20% or more during the cook, so your 20# to start *might* yield 15# of product, which is probably dinner for 6 brisket lovers, and a few days of sammiches, assuming you don't make up any 'doggie bags' for your guests to take home for their sammiches.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:50 PM (a3Q+t)

230 That Ranger ending was way closer than I like, but we'll take the result!

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 06:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

231 Cheesecake, when done right and with proper fruit toppings, is...

Words fail me.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 06:51 PM (R/m4+)

232 The Japanese love their cakes. One of their favorites is Castella, a sponge cake borrowed from Portuguese traders in Nagasaki. The most famous brand, Fukusaya, is 400 years old in 2024. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eQvK1jOVADw

Posted by: JRo at May 05, 2024 06:52 PM (g3Qgi)

233 >>That Ranger ending was way closer than I like, but we'll take the result!

I hate prevent defense in any sport but mostly hockey.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 06:53 PM (LkLld)

234 There is an excellent recipe for grilled turkey written by a genius in TDG.
Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 06:45 PM


Will the WeaselBeanz recipe be in TDG II?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:53 PM (a3Q+t)

235 thank goodness that was labeled as a composite cork. I thought it was an eye test for color perception

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 06:55 PM (D7oie)

236 Will the WeaselBeanz recipe be in TDG II?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:53 PM (a3Q+t)
----
It can be!

Posted by: Weasel at May 05, 2024 06:56 PM (RG6z4)

237 I use to be forced to have turkey burgers, would just make like a hamburger with mayo, lettuce and tomato

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:56 PM (fwDg9)

238 Make your final sneaky Kestrel readings and figure out your DOPE. Firing commences in less than 3 minutes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:57 PM (a3Q+t)

239 Late to the game, but this year's Easter went off well. The rain held off long enough to grill lamb, and a feast was had by all. I now need to faceplant and enjoy the day off tomorrow to recover from a long week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 05, 2024 06:59 PM (6vIY6)

240 I love this stuff:

https://fever-tree.com/en_US/products/
elderflower-tonic-water#regular

Fever Tree Elderflower tonic water. I don't even know what elderflower tastes like, but this stuff has the most fragrant and fresh grapefruit flavor --- mmmm!

But there's a related FWP. I can't buy this flavor in town. I have to wait to buy it when I go to the city.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 05:46 PM (Sf2cq)

This was recommended for my MiL's restless leg, the stuff with quinine in it. I think Publix carries it.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 06:59 PM (w6EFb)

241 Make your final sneaky Kestrel readings and figure out your DOPE. Firing commences in less than 3 minutes.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 06:57 PM

*rotates selector switch to 'FAFO', and watches lane*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 05, 2024 07:00 PM (6vIY6)

242 Composite cork or Lebanon bologna.

Posted by: Samuel Yoder at May 05, 2024 07:02 PM (Vf0uo)

243 the secret to good mashed potatoes is to use russet or Yellow potatoes (red potatoes are too waxy), peel, chunk them up and boil them soft, save back the water they were boiled in, add WARM milk and a large knob of butter, add in the water from the boiling as you mash to keep to be able to judge between too wet and too dry

I use a pastry cutter because I like some texture. I am aware other people hate this and want their mashed potatoes as smooth and homogeneous as they can make them. Personally I like being able to tell the difference between mashed pototoes and library paste by mouthfeel alone.

also, if you bake, save the remaining potato water to mix your bread dough, it makes it far softer and rise better.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 07:03 PM (D7oie)

244 those Mexican aliens? They were actually cake

https://youtu.be/N4Kp09NC0uU

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 07:08 PM (D7oie)

245 Carrot cake is the capo di tutti i capi.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 05, 2024 07:22 PM (4I/2K)

246 Okay CBD, this cake should meet your standards. Best I’ve ever had in my life. I am not good at decorating cakes, and only average at baking them, so I once treated myself on a special occasion by hiring a baker to do this one.

Of course, I love the combination of lemon and blueberries.

I have made it myself, and it was great, but a pro does much better.

https://tinyurl.com/x2yt7jwv

Posted by: Menagerie at May 05, 2024 07:29 PM (n/MLA)

247 Golden Chicken Soup

https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/fenugreek-

turmeric-chicken-soup

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2024 05:41 PM (eDfFs)

That sounds delightful! Awaiting dried fenugreek leaves from Amazon.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 07:30 PM (w6EFb)

248 Ever hear of a Smorgastarta?
It's a Swedish sandwich cake.
Google it for lots of images.

Posted by: Kathy at May 05, 2024 06:00 PM (p69D5)

Classic birthday celebration fare. IIRC we mixed whipped cream with mayo for the "frosting" and you want a lot of shrimp on that thing.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 07:38 PM (w6EFb)

First-World Problems...

1stW chocolate.jpg

What the hell? I open a box of chocolates (Sees Candy) and I see this? What has happened to American pride? What happened to our industrial base that a box of chocolates (dark chocolates with mostly caramels...of course) can slip past supposedly rigorous quality control and reveal a 180 degree catastrophe?

I guess I'll have to return the entire box.

Posted by: CBD at 01:59 PM




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1 wha?

Posted by: caf at May 05, 2024 02:01 PM (/+mVZ)

2 it's a slow day if I'm the first poster.....

Posted by: caf at May 05, 2024 02:01 PM (/+mVZ)

3 Napping

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 02:02 PM (fwDg9)

4 This is grounds for execution.

Posted by: Mr Crayola at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (R4t5M)

5 distinguished guests notified and invited to participate.....

Posted by: caf at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (/+mVZ)

6 off sock

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (R4t5M)

7 Willowed but important

One business that’s apparently popular is on line ED drugs and hair restoration. For those that use those products do not buy from Hims.

The CEO has publicly supported the unhinged Hamas protesters and encouraged them to continue. He has offered jobs to those that have been effected by their protesting.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (MNhXM)

8
Meh, big deal. It's chocolate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:04 PM (MoZTd)

9 I do like the box of assorted chocolates that have a candy map printed on the inside of the lid.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:05 PM (MNhXM)

10 Would eat.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 05, 2024 02:05 PM (tA1/w)

11 Ya gotta eat that one first, and then two more just to ensure they're all good. The other two have to be from random locations in the box because psyance, bichez!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:05 PM (YRsIm)

12 Turtles are a first world treasure.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:06 PM (MNhXM)

13 I might have to fire somebody over this.

Posted by: Warren Buffett at May 05, 2024 02:06 PM (xPl2J)

14 Fantastic. More rain.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:06 PM (R4t5M)

15 I did buy a box of dark chocolate covered, sea salted carmel yesterday......

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:07 PM (YRsIm)

16 Is the candy upside down lol
Lucy Ricardo must have been on the assembly line that day

Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 02:08 PM (pnOAT)

17
The only bad chocolate is white chocolate. The negation of confectionery art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:08 PM (MoZTd)

18 See's are the best widely available candies in the country. Sooooo good. But, in 50+ years of getting boxes from them, I've never seen this horrible travesty!

Posted by: Guy in Texas at May 05, 2024 02:09 PM (022x+)

19 Whizzo Chocolates!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 02:09 PM (UfUdn)

20 Hope everyone in the Houston area is dry and not flooded out.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:09 PM (R4t5M)

21 Coincidentally I am currently snacking on semisweet chocolate chips that are supposed to be used in the chocolate chip orange bread

Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 02:09 PM (pnOAT)

22 Maybe it has pineapple as a filling and its aspiring to be an upside-down cake?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 02:10 PM (O7YUW)

23 Unfortunately dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (MNhXM)

24 I like chocolate, don't buy it so don't get it very often
Sadly

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (fwDg9)

25 I ‘d thought baking season was done due to the hot weather last Thursday but today is delightfully cool and rainy so the oven’s about to get fired up again

Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (pnOAT)

26 @23/polynikes: I did not know this, thank you!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 02:12 PM (O7YUW)

27 I bought sea salt caramels, small batch, BOGO from Publix. Milk and dark. The dark chocolate bag was all melted together. Eating it anyway (and sooo good...) Bet they are as good as See's, which I can't afford, heh.

Posted by: skywch at May 05, 2024 02:12 PM (uqhmb)

28 Hope everyone in the Houston area is dry and not flooded out.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:09 PM (R4t5M)

North Houston hardest hit. Especially Kingwood.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:12 PM (MNhXM)

29 Send that one to Pixy, then it'll be right-side-up.

Posted by: mikeski at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (DgGvY)

30
Unfortunately dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.
Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (MNhXM)

__________

Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (MoZTd)

31 21>> that sounds amazing! Please to pass along a recipe....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (YRsIm)

32 Almost as bad as opening a box of bullets and finding one all jacked up.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (cOq4q)

33 Nuh Mr. CBD, that there piece of choccy was made in Australia, it was. Eat up. Fair Dinkum.

Posted by: The Antipodal Choccy Association at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (PiwSw)

34 Take a bite out of it, then return the box.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (W/lyH)

35 16 Is the candy upside down lol
Lucy Ricardo must have been on the assembly line that day
Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 02:08 PM (pnOAT)

hahahaha
I searched the comments to see if that bit had been mentioned yet!

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (o3SCB)

36
We're in Brazoria County and we're getting our first rain out of all this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (MoZTd)

37 You don't get it... that one is for your Australian friend!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (xaFKb)

38 Bernard Hill has died. He played Théoden in LOTR.

https://youtu.be/7lwJOxN_gXc?si=6QbvccN_GCdImuYe

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (lhenN)

39 I see no problem as long as it's chocolate!

Posted by: Ciampino - If you take PEG you'll need chocolate ... wait at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (qfLjt)

40 Willowed

I do not recall who was asking about assistance for macular degeneration, but maybe this info can be helpful. Heard about a group called low vision specialists of MD and VA. Do not have experience with them.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at May 05, 2024 02:00 PM (zudum)

It was Muldoon !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (T4tVD)

41 I didn’t know until recently that chocolate chips as a commercial item were only introduced in the forties. I was reading the 1946 edition of Joy of Cooking several weeks ago and ran across:

A specially prepared chocolate may be bought for use in cookies. Any semisweet chocolate may be substituted, cut into pea-sized pieces.

Apparently, when chocolate “chip” cookies initially became popular companies like Nestlé started including a tool to help you turn a bar of chocolate into chipped chocolate. It was so popular that they introduced pre-chipped chocolate in 1941.

The 1946 Joy of Cooking is mostly a reprint of the 1943 edition, with the wartime chapter removed, so chocolate chips were still new when it was written.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (EXyHK)

42 >>17 The only bad chocolate is white chocolate. The negation of confectionery art.


Heh. My wife agrees - she says it's false advertising.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (IGKzA)

43 Burn the box, don’t return it,

Posted by: Montec at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (DXvEo)

44 Noooo...you should eat the rest, return the one, and demand they replace the entire box, as well as $One Meeeeelion Dollahs....for emotional distress. "It's the (new) American Way"

Posted by: birdog at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (+Fkyb)

45 Unfortunately dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.

Starvation is a serious bitch. Eat the chocolate.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (pTv5j)

46 You know what I hate? When you order a strawberry shake with chunks of real strawberry but they give you a .22 straw when you really need at least a .38 if not .45 or else the chunks clog up the straw.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (VW0go)

47 You know what I hate? When you order a strawberry shake with chunks of real strawberry but they give you a .22 straw when you really need at least a .38 if not .45 or else the chunks clog up the straw.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (VW0go)

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 02:16 PM (W/lyH)

48 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (EXyHK)

You must have been watching The Food That Built America😀

( that whole series of The —— That Built America is pretty good)

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:16 PM (MNhXM)

49 47 You know what I hate? When you order a strawberry shake with chunks of real strawberry but they give you a .22 straw when you really need at least a .38 if not .45 or else the chunks clog up the straw.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (VW0go)

You’re supposed to get a long plastic spoon along with the straw.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

50 If you can drink a shake through a straw, it's not really a shake.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (YRsIm)

51 Why do I always get the nasty coconut filled ones?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (k3sRS)

52
Why do I always get the nasty coconut filled ones?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (k3sRS)

_________

Feel free to send them to me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (MoZTd)

53 You know what I hate? When you order a strawberry shake with chunks of real strawberry but they give you a .22 straw when you really need at least a .38 if not .45 or else the chunks clog up the straw.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (VW0go)

*types*
*deletes*
Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 02:16 PM (W/lyH)

They should be caned.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:19 PM (R4t5M)

54 Even the chocolates are changing their orientation!

Posted by: Alex Jones at May 05, 2024 02:19 PM (di6C2)

55 That's the upside-down flavor.

Posted by: comradearthur at May 05, 2024 02:19 PM (OdNzD)

56 Feel free to send them to me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (MoZTd)

Hmm Almond Joys

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:19 PM (MNhXM)

57 41 I didn’t know until recently that chocolate chips as a commercial item were only introduced in the forties. I was reading the 1946 edition of Joy of Cooking several weeks ago and ran across:

A specially prepared chocolate may be bought for use in cookies. Any semisweet chocolate may be substituted, cut into pea-sized pieces.

Apparently, when chocolate “chip” cookies initially became popular companies like Nestlé started including a tool to help you turn a bar of chocolate into chipped chocolate. It was so popular that they introduced pre-chipped chocolate in 1941.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:14 PM (EXyHK)


Yet some people believe the atom bomb was the top invention of the 1940s. Losers. I bet the only cookies they eat are fig newtons.

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2024 02:20 PM (5fDan)

58 Why do I always get the nasty coconut filled ones?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (k3sRS)

That's life

Posted by: Forrest Gump at May 05, 2024 02:20 PM (xPl2J)

59 Hmm Almond Joys
Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:19 PM (MNhXM)

Almonds good. Coconut, not so good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:20 PM (di6C2)

60
The nasty ones are the cherry liqueurs or (*shudders*) raisins.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (MoZTd)

61 Coconut sucks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (R4t5M)

62 Malt>>>>shake

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (k3sRS)

63 I'll eat what I want, when I want, and how I want.

dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.

Have at it, Conservatives. You sure are fun to watch.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (zdLoL)

64 You must have been watching The Food That Built America

No, but it sounds like something I’d be interested in.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (EXyHK)

65 Mebbe you're the one upside down, mate, and the choccy is rightside up? Didyer ever think of that?

Posted by: The Antipodal Choccy Association, after a few Fosters at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (PiwSw)

66 29 Send that one to Pixy, then it'll be right-side-up.
Posted by: mikeski at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (DgGvY)

haha

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (o3SCB)

67 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:13 PM (YRsIm)

I’ll post it on the Food Thread. Look for it towards the end of the thread, ‘cause I’ll be occupied for a while

Posted by: kallisto at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (tBInC)

68 60
The nasty ones are the cherry liqueurs or (*shudders*) raisins.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (MoZTd)

Cherry ones are good. WTF are you getting raising filled chocolates? Never seen those in a box of candy, just those vile raisinettes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:22 PM (di6C2)

69 I guess I'll have to return the entire box.

I'd eat the entire box, thus saving some unsuspecting consumer from being a victim.

I'm a giver that way.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 05, 2024 02:22 PM (/HDaX)

70 Maybe I should carry a custom straw with me in a case. I could take it out of the case then screw it together before use like fancy pool players do with their cues.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:22 PM (VW0go)

71 If you can drink a shake through a straw, it's not really a shake.
-------
It depends on hard you suck.

Posted by: kamala at May 05, 2024 02:22 PM (UfUdn)

72 My sister in law pointed out that you can find a reason you "shouldn't eat" for just about anything.

Posted by: skywch at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (uqhmb)

73 Those don't look like dark chocolate. So you could return them. Although I like both.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (NpAcC)

74 50 If you can drink a shake through a straw, it's not really a shake.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:18 PM (YRsIm)

If you HAVE to have a spoon, it's just ice cream.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (di6C2)

75 Are you sure those are raisins.....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (YRsIm)

76 Coconut doesn't suck.

Coconut cream pie can be orgasmic.

But coconut and chocolate is disgusting.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (k3sRS)

77 I can help you out with that box of See's

No need to suffer.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 02:24 PM (RIvkX)

78 69 I guess I'll have to return the entire box.

I'd eat the entire box, thus saving some unsuspecting consumer from being a victim.

I'm a giver that way.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 05, 2024 02:22 PM (/HDaX)

Heh. Eat the whole box and just return the single upside down one. I would love to see the reaction.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:24 PM (di6C2)

79 Chewing George Lucas's Chocolate

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 05, 2024 02:24 PM (7Mvc7)

80 If you can drink a shake through a straw, it's not really a shake.

There’s a gas station in the middle of nowhere in on I8 in Arizona that specializes in date products. I often get a date shake when I drive to or from San Diego. It’s great but I pretty much have to wait for it to melt to be able to drink it while driving.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:24 PM (EXyHK)

81 You must have been watching The Food That Built America

No, but it sounds like something I’d be interested in.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (EXyHK)

It started with The Men Who Built America and then the Food and then the Toys.

The Toys was really also surprisingly very goid.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (MNhXM)

82 But coconut and chocolate is disgusting.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (k3sRS)
===
Better than peanuts and chocolate. Which is heinous. Snickers of Doom.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (RIvkX)

83 When a kid if the milk shake was thick enough you ate it with the straw

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (fwDg9)

84
WTF are you getting raising filled chocolates?

__________

Millions of moons ago as a young shaver I got a Chunky. Disgusting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (MoZTd)

85 71 If you can drink a shake through a straw, it's not really a shake.
-------
It depends on hard you suck.
Posted by: kamala at May 05, 2024 02:22 PM (UfUdn)

*time freezes*

*watches the pitch inch across the plate, high and in the open*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (di6C2)

86 I like using coconut milk for curries. Shredded coconut in deserts or chocolate- no thanks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (R4t5M)

87 The nasty ones are the cherry liqueurs or (*shudders*) raisins.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:21 PM (MoZTd)
******
I hate those. Reminds me of cough syrup.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

88 Thanks Kallisto! I'll be on watch for that!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:25 PM (YRsIm)

89 Dates, was going to get some this week and forgot.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 02:26 PM (fwDg9)

90 I bet the only cookies they eat are fig newtons.

Fig newtons and gasoline. That’s the story of my life.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:26 PM (EXyHK)

91 Life is like a box of chocolates. Sometimes it's upside down.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 02:26 PM (LkLld)

92 23 Unfortunately dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (MNhXM)
----
That doesn't sound right.
Do you have a link for that?

Posted by: Ciampino - chocolate ... mmm at May 05, 2024 02:27 PM (qfLjt)

93 You never know what you're going to get.

Posted by: Mama Gump at May 05, 2024 02:28 PM (DsA2n)

94 Sometimes you feel like a nut.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 05, 2024 02:28 PM (7Mvc7)

95 My sister in law pointed out that you can find a reason you "shouldn't eat" for just about anything.
Posted by: skywch at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (uqhmb)

If you have had kidney stones before it’s a very good reason to watch what you eat. Diabetics don’t eat a lot of food because ‘reasons’ too.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:29 PM (MNhXM)

96 Unfortunately dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (MNhXM)
----
That doesn't sound right.
Do you have a link for that?
Posted by: Ciampino - chocolate ... mmm
*******
Dark chocolate is good for your heart.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:29 PM (NpAcC)

97 I blame this on LucyEth.

Posted by: look whats not at May 05, 2024 02:29 PM (nakGR)

98
The best place for chocolate chips is cookie dough.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:31 PM (MoZTd)

99 When a kid if the milk shake was thick enough you ate it with the straw
Posted by: Skip

We have the spark. Maybe we should invent the spraw.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:32 PM (VW0go)

100 The only bad chocolate is white chocolate. The negation of confectionery art.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:08 PM (MoZTd)
*******
White chocolate macadamia nut cookies are the best.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:32 PM (NpAcC)

101 We added a second pump with a UV clarifier to the pond a couple of weeks ago. The water lillies are bustin out! Yellow, white and hot tropical magenta. So my FWP is I gotta change the filter every couple of weeks now.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:33 PM (YRsIm)

102 Slurpees already come with spraws.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 05, 2024 02:33 PM (7Mvc7)

103 Spoon straws are available on Amazon.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 05, 2024 02:34 PM (tA1/w)

104 Sometimes you feel like a nut.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 05, 2024 02:28 PM (7Mvc7)
*******
Sometimes you don't.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:34 PM (NpAcC)

105

Lickspittle Fascists of the World, Unite!

Posted by: Paul's Perianal Pustules at May 05, 2024 02:34 PM (9MqP4)

106 Spoon straws are available on Amazon.
Posted by: Next2Nothing

Bastards stole my idea!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:35 PM (VW0go)

107 If you want a shake from Baskin Robbins or Marble Slab Creamery these days you need a bank loan.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:35 PM (MNhXM)

108 I once emptied a little Whitman's Sampler, filled it with large, dead Rhino Beetles, and sent it to my sister-in-law that I "feud" with. She opened it when my mother-in-law was over her place. They took it as a fun joke eventually after screaming.

Posted by: Chocoholic at May 05, 2024 02:36 PM (V5BDR)

109 bet the only cookies they eat are fig newtons.

Fig newtons and gasoline. That’s the story of my life.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:26 PM (EXyH
*******
Fig newtons are the worst cookies in the world.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:36 PM (NpAcC)

110 @95, I'm not arguing against reasons. I'm just saying everyone can find their own reasons for what they eat or don't eat, no one else can tell you. Her husband, my brother, is a diabetic and has had kidney stones that put him into the hospital. He still enjoys pretty much what he wants to eat, and takes strong meds.

Posted by: skywch at May 05, 2024 02:37 PM (uqhmb)

111 I thought dark chocolate was good for you, I only like milk chocolate

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 02:37 PM (fwDg9)

112 Fig newtons are the worst cookies in the world.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:36 PM (NpAcC)

I’m not a fan of short bread cookies.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:38 PM (MNhXM)

113 English actor Bernard Hill *, who played Theoden, died today

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 05, 2024 02:38 PM (+L/r1)

114 White chocolate macadamia nut cookies are the best.

White chocolate is a lot like white pepper. It does taste good in its place, and it is technically correct to call it that, but there is something viscerally wrong with the name, as if it refers to some ancient horror long forgotten consciously but still bubbling deep in our racial history.

Posted by: Cadbury Price Lovecraft at May 05, 2024 02:38 PM (EXyHK)

115 107 If you want a shake from Baskin Robbins or Marble Slab Creamery these days you need a bank loan.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:35 PM (MNhXM)
----
Marble Slab Creamery -- that's the one that doubles as the morgue, right?

Posted by: Ciampino - do not eat cream from there, it's Soylent at May 05, 2024 02:39 PM (qfLjt)

116 Unfortunately dark chocolate is supposed to be one of the foods that contain a high amount of oxalates that help form kidney stones.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:11 PM (MNhXM)


And yet you wonder why you ever lose an election. Turns out, conservatives are just puritans that read Adam Smith.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 02:41 PM (pTv5j)

117 My momma always said, "A box of chocolates. Thems for fags."

Posted by: Forrest Gump at May 05, 2024 02:41 PM (R/m4+)

118 thought dark chocolate was good for you, I only like milk chocolate
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 02:37 PM (fwDg9)

It is good for you but for people susceptible to kidney stones it can cause quicker formation.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:41 PM (MNhXM)

119 "That built America"
History Channel, right?
I loved "Machines" and look forward to these others.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 02:42 PM (IZjwR)

120 Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 02:41 PM (pTv5

Always babbling nonsense about things you make up in your head.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:42 PM (MNhXM)

121 Oh yeah. That's definitely unacceptable in today's world.

Posted by: Dr_No at May 05, 2024 02:44 PM (ayRl+)

122 You know what doesn't cause kidney stones? Iced, cold brew coffee with real cream, and a cigar. While listening to baseball and sitting on the patio under the fan.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:44 PM (YRsIm)

123 Could have been a chocolate mint. Yuck

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 02:44 PM (8I4hW)

124 4 hours on the tractor, mowing grass. I'm beat. FWP... cleaning it off. Dust, dry grass, wet grass, mud, etc. The mowing deck is a "belly mount" (like a riding lawnmower) and is PTO driven. Gearbox needs attention, pullies need attention, belts need attention. Hands and knees job. For someone a lot younger than me. But... here I am.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 02:45 PM (Q4IgG)

125 pullies --> pulleys

See, I'm beat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 02:46 PM (Q4IgG)

126 There’s a gas station in the middle of nowhere in on I8 in Arizona that specializes in date products. I often get a date shake when I drive to or from San Diego. It’s great but I pretty much have to wait for it to melt to be able to drink it while driving.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:24 PM (EXyHK)

Ever see the process to fertilize date palms? Water, being most valuable in the desert, you don't want to grow more male trees than you actually need. They can get the ratio of female to male trees around 50-1, but they physically collect the male pollen, bag the female flowers, and use a puffer to physically blow the pollen right onto the flowers. Very labor intensive, but it works. (And saves water, by not having to support a lot of male trees).

Posted by: Male Palms, Hardest Hit at May 05, 2024 02:47 PM (V5BDR)

127 Sees Candy is pretty darn good. The wife is from Clovis CA so she was raised on the stuff.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 05, 2024 02:47 PM (t1NcM)

128 RIP, Bernard Hill.
I loved Theoden, King.
He also played the captain of the Titanic.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 02:48 PM (IZjwR)

129 It is good for you but for people susceptible to kidney stones it can cause quicker formation.
Posted by: polynikes at May 05,

But they are delicious dark chocolate kidney stones.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 05, 2024 02:49 PM (t1NcM)

130 The Men Who Built America was a good series.
Couldn't believe the History Channel would allow
such a pro-American program.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 02:53 PM (lCWOD)

131 Special committees in the United States Department of Agriculture are now developing a program for the utilization of soy products—both in kitchen recipes and in prepared foodstuffs—to take full advantage of this important protein food in the American diet. Soy products already have played a significant wartime role. Rich in valuable protein, minerals and vitamins, they are readily adaptable to large scale use as a human food to supplement meat, milk, and eggs.

Posted by: Cadbury Price Lovecraft at May 05, 2024 02:54 PM (EXyHK)

132 123 Could have been a chocolate mint.
Yuck
Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 02:44 PM (8I4hW)

No, it was York.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 05, 2024 02:54 PM (7Mvc7)

133 FWP.

Jacobin
@jacobin
Canada boasts one of the world’s highest assisted-death rates, supposedly enabling the terminally ill to die with dignity. But this suicide program increasingly resembles a dystopian replacement for care services, exchanging social welfare for euthanasia.

-
Remember when those nutty conservatives were saying socialized medicine would lead to death panels?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 05, 2024 02:55 PM (VW0go)

134 White chocolate reminds me of cocoa butter.

Aren't they basically the same thing?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 05, 2024 02:55 PM (7Mvc7)

135 Malt Shops, what happened to them? First it was malts, then it was malt or shake, then it was shakes only. Where's my malt shop?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 02:57 PM (lCWOD)

136 I miss a good malt!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 02:58 PM (W/lyH)

137 Dropping chocolate horror. Although Cadbury Price Lovecraft could be a great AOSHQ nick.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:58 PM (EXyHK)

138 [soy] Rich in valuable protein, minerals and vitamins, they are readily adaptable to large scale use as a human food to supplement meat, milk, and eggs.
Posted by: Cadbury Price Lovecraft
--------------------------------------

Peanuts

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 02:58 PM (lCWOD)

139 IIRC, dark chocolate was one of the triggers for stones. Tea as well. A few other thing.

I still drink tea from time to time and chocolate is not off the menu either.

Water. Drink a lot of water.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:58 PM (di6C2)

140 White Chocolate and Macadamia nut cookies (soft, chunks) are the #2 cookie. Damn good, but still in second place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:59 PM (di6C2)

141
But this suicide program increasingly resembles a dystopian replacement for care services, exchanging social welfare for euthanasia.

___________

You have an obligation not to cost the State money. The lower your social credit score, the greater the obligation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:59 PM (MoZTd)

142 The Israel-Hamas truce negotiations have collapsed. Alternatively, I suppose one could describe these negotiations as comatose and on life support.

Personally, I've always believed Netanyahu whenever he's said that preparations for an offensive in Rafah are complete, and that the offensive is imminent. I think Israel has been waiting only in order to show the world that it was Hamas which rejected the truce.

This has economic implications, especially for oil & gas. Other than that, the emerging situation is hard to predict.

But we're entering a new phase.

Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:00 PM (NLIak)

143 Where's my malt shop?

The Dateland, Arizona date shop I mentioned earlier does in fact have malts, or at least has malt it can add to their shakes. Which I always do.

Top Notch in north Austin also still does malts.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 03:00 PM (EXyHK)

144
Where's my malt shop?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 02:57 PM (lCWOD)

__________

DQ has malts. The drawback is that you have to go to DQ.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 03:01 PM (MoZTd)

145 I am proud to be in charge of Quality Control. My Motto is "Given the Opportunity to Screw Something Up, I WILL" !!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 05, 2024 03:01 PM (15lwl)

146 Great news. Mrs. F. says she increased my chocolate ration!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 03:01 PM (RIvkX)

147 White chocolate does not contain cacao and is not chocolate. It's some kind of dreck.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 03:03 PM (RIvkX)

148 This Candy is Racist because the Chocolate is only One Color !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kumalot Harris at May 05, 2024 03:03 PM (PYJJG)

149 Soy products already have played a significant wartime role. Rich in valuable protein, minerals and vitamins, they are readily adaptable to large scale use as a human food to supplement meat, milk, and eggs.
Posted by: Cadbury Price Lovecraft at May 05, 2024 02:54 PM (EXyHK


Is this about the addition of soy to food products in the past, or are there new plans for soy?

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 03:03 PM (Sf2cq)

150 This has economic implications, especially for oil & gas. Other than that, the emerging situation is hard to predict.

But we're entering a new phase.

Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:00 PM (NLIak)


Our asshole prez has shut off ammunition supplies to Israel. My loathing of democrats just grows. He's giving America a FWP.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:03 PM (W/lyH)

151 I miss a good malt!
Posted by: Diogenes

Got a blender?
Brewing supply stores have malt.
You can get it mail order as well.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 03:04 PM (HDU5E)

152 Looking up oxalates in cocoa I came across:
HPLC chromatography in a 'scientific' paper.
That's like ATM machine

(HPLC = high performance liquid chromatography)

https://tinyurl.com/4d6un7ha

Posted by: Ciampino - rhubarb at May 05, 2024 03:04 PM (qfLjt)

153 My message to Israel is..... DON'T..... DON'T

Five Minutes later CNN reports that Israel has entered the town of Rafah...

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 05, 2024 03:05 PM (PYJJG)

154 Good day, This is the Department of Homeland Security. We have a vital mission: to secure the nation from the many threats we face as well as internet Fraud. Our duties are wide-ranging, but our goal is clear - keeping America safe.

We are happy to inform you that your funds valued at US$2,750,000.00 have been approved by the Treasury Department of the United States as your E-mail address appeared in the payment list of beneficiaries that will receive their compensation payment this month.

Signed:
Mr. Alejandro Mayorkas

Obviously a scam. That has nothing to do with the DHS mission of saving the world from straight teens!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 03:06 PM (EXyHK)

155 147 White chocolate does not contain cacao and is not chocolate. It's some kind of dreck.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 03:03 PM (RIvkX)

Still tasty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 03:06 PM (di6C2)

156 I’m not a fan of short bread cookies.
Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:38 PM (MNhXM)

Mama's Little Baby Loves Shortnin' Bread

https://youtu.be/lyeyBlIjcAk

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2024 03:06 PM (8zz6B)

157 Braum's Ice Cream and Dairy Store makes malts. Their ice cream is very good and has the added benefit of being made with A2 milk, which is helpful for people with certain dairy sensitivities.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 03:06 PM (Sf2cq)

158 Where's my malt shop?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 02:57 PM (lCWOD)


At Washington State University there is a concession Called Ferdinand's where they make Cougar Gold cheese. (Ask bluebell just how good it is.) Ferdinand's also makes their own ice cream and the malts there are the best in the Pacific Northwest.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:07 PM (W/lyH)

159 Kidney stones are not all that impressive looking, except for staghorn stones. Gall stones are impressive looking and can be quite a sight.

Posted by: Everybody Must Get Stoned at May 05, 2024 03:07 PM (V5BDR)

160 Strawberry licorice is like white chocolate

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (fwDg9)

161
I’m not a fan of short bread cookies.
Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:38 PM (MNhXM)

_______

Her Majesty and I keep Walker's in business.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (MoZTd)

162 after sampling one (or more) of each.

Posted by: feds are here to help at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (FAQlI)

163 Dark chocolate is good for your heart.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:29 PM (NpAcC)

The more ya eat, the more ya fart !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (T4tVD)

164 IIRC, dark chocolate was one of the triggers for stones. Tea as well. A few other thing.

I still drink tea from time to time and chocolate is not off the menu either.

Water. Drink a lot of water.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 02:58 PM (di6C2

Nothing is off the menu but limited by choice. You take the information and make your own choices.

I don’t know how people misinterpret that or get angry at the information .

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (MNhXM)

165 123 Could have been a chocolate mint. Yuck

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 02:44 PM (8I4hW)
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Putting mint into chocolate is a crime. Mint is only nice to smell.

Posted by: Ciampino - rhubarb for oxalates at May 05, 2024 03:09 PM (qfLjt)

166 You're supposed to poke a hole in the bottom of boxed chocolates with a finger to make sure you don't accidentally eat a nasty one. If it isn't the kind you like you tuck it back in the box and let someone else eat the candy you poked with your nasty finger.

Fig Newtons are super food.

Posted by: JROD at May 05, 2024 03:09 PM (IlL6s)

167 CBD, what’s worse is the paper is bent down. Which means some unskilled, illegal immigrant working on the chocolate assembly line used his/her dirty illegal finger to flip it over.
Now that is a FWP. But I bet DJT can solve it

Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 03:09 PM (wrDSd)

168 I miss a good malt!
Posted by: Diogenes

Got a blender?
Brewing supply stores have malt.
You can get it mail order as well.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 03:04 PM (HDU5E)

I do indeed and I make my own now. AND there is a microbrewery near by and walking in there smells like heaven!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:10 PM (W/lyH)

169 Is this about the addition of soy to food products in the past, or are there new plans for soy?

It’s from a 1943 pamphlet I just finished scanning in. A. E. Staley Mfg. Co. was a leading processor of soy before and after World War II. As far as I can tell even they only marketed soy flour as a wartime substitute, dumping their excess product a few years after the war ended.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 03:10 PM (EXyHK)

170 If you had more Maple Syrup in your diet you wouldn't flip so easily.

Posted by: DaveA at May 05, 2024 03:10 PM (FhXTo)

171 I did not have ice cream once last year I think
I like ice cream

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 03:10 PM (fwDg9)

172 Top Notch in north Austin also still does malts.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 03:00 PM (EXyHK)



In and Out does not have malts. Big zero, there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2024 03:11 PM (8zz6B)

173 My Ninja coffee maker started getting confused, and stopped brewing 3/4 of the way through. It thought I had the drip stop on, when I didn't.

Several rounds of de-scaling didn't solve the problem. Since it's long out of warranty, and wasn't going to work anyway, I decided to take apart to see if I could find the problem.

Guess what's inside a Ninja coffeemaker? Tiny TAMPER-PROOF screws! WTAF?

Six hours of disassembly and re-assembly, and it was all for naught. Had to get a new one.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 03:12 PM (OX9vb)

174 CBD, what’s worse is the paper is bent down. Which means some unskilled, illegal immigrant working on the chocolate assembly line used his/her dirty illegal finger to flip it over.
Now that is a FWP. But I bet DJT can solve it
Posted by: RI Red at May 05, 2024 03:09 PM (wrDSd)


And you do NOT want to think about where that finger was earlier!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:12 PM (W/lyH)

175 Why is a microbrewery a good thing, but a micropenis is bad?

Posted by: David Hogg at May 05, 2024 03:13 PM (V5BDR)

176 AND there is a microbrewery near by and walking in there smells like heaven!
Posted by: Diogenes

When I brewed the neighborhood knew due to the malt smell of the 1 hour boil.
I'd have 'friends' coming over because they knew there would be beer served and a month later they'd be over to taste that batch.
It was a good neighborhood!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 03:13 PM (HDU5E)

177 I did not have ice cream once last year I think
I like ice cream

Serendipitously, today’s Padgett Sunday Supper Club recipe (clubpadgett.com) is an easy chocolate ice cream made with evaporated milk and marshmallows, with no churning required. Just requires freezing several hours in the refrigerator.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 03:13 PM (EXyHK)

178 I’ve never had a malt because I’m not crazy about malt balls / Whoppers. I’m just assuming a malt would taste somewhat similar?

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (MNhXM)

179 It’s from a 1943 pamphlet I just finished scanning in. A. E. Staley Mfg. Co. was a leading processor of soy before and after World War II. As far as I can tell even they only marketed soy flour as a wartime substitute, dumping their excess product a few years after the war ended.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 03:10 PM (EXyHK)


Thanks for the information. As a former consumer of public school lunches, I'm sure I've had my share of soy.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (Sf2cq)

180 163 Dark chocolate is good for your heart.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:29 PM (NpAcC)

The more ya eat, the more ya fart !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (T4tVD)
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Wait, I thought that was beans .....

Posted by: Ciampino - confused fava beaner at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (qfLjt)

181 150 Dio

Israel emphatically denied today that the U.S. has done that.

Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (NLIak)

182 178 I’ve never had a malt because I’m not crazy about malt balls / Whoppers. I’m just assuming a malt would taste somewhat similar?
Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (MNhXM)


To my taste, yes.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2024 03:16 PM (Sf2cq)

183 My FWP.
Mrs.D.bought a new washer and dryer a couple of years ago. Very fancy. All kinds of bells and whistles. Now before this we had the basic washer and dryer. Throw in clothes, some soap, and out come clean clothes. Into the dryer and all done.
But I hate the new set. It has, get this, a cleaning cycle! WTAF???
It's a friggin' washer! It's supposed to finish clean! And worse, the cleaning cycle takes nearly three hours.
Ugh!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:17 PM (W/lyH)

184 I’ve never had a malt because I’m not crazy about malt balls / Whoppers. I’m just assuming a malt would taste somewhat similar?
Posted by: polynikes

Yes.
You can get your malted barley by drinking beer instead of having it with ice cream.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 03:17 PM (HDU5E)

185 163 Dark chocolate is good for your heart.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 02:29 PM (NpAcC)

The more ya eat, the more ya fart !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 03:08 PM (T4tVD)
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Wait, I thought that was beans .....
Posted by: Ciampino - confused fava beaner at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (qfLjt)

Oh, that's right ! The Musical Fruit !
The more ya eat, the more ya Toot !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 03:17 PM (T4tVD)

186 Dio

Israel emphatically denied today that the U.S. has done that.
Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (NLIak)

Of course the WH could have just answered the direct question with a direct answer but they had to do political spin that never answered the question whether they have delayed the ammunition shipment.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:18 PM (MNhXM)

187 The Bowery Boys were always consuming malts at Louie's Sweet Shop, but don't think they ever paid for one.

Posted by: Bernard Gorcey at May 05, 2024 03:19 PM (V5BDR)

188 Dio

Israel emphatically denied today that the U.S. has done that.
Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:15 PM (NLIak)
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Huh?
Still a headline at Faux On-Line.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:19 PM (W/lyH)

189 >>Why do I always get the nasty coconut filled ones?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Because the penguin filled ones go bad too quick?

Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2024 03:19 PM (HQ9Sl)

190 Because the penguin filled ones go bad too quick?

THIS is how hatred spreads so quickly.

Posted by: Penguin Liberation Front at May 05, 2024 03:21 PM (V5BDR)

191 185
The Musical Fruit !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 03:17 PM (T4tVD)
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For some strange reason I now have 'The Logical Song' going in my head.

Posted by: Ciampino - confused fava beaners at May 05, 2024 03:22 PM (qfLjt)

192 Where is my jet pack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SCu9yiBlo

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:23 PM (lCWOD)

193 The only bad chocolate is white chocolate. The negation of confectionery art.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 02:08 PM (MoZTd)

I think it's a pleasant enough confection, but it should not be called chocolate. Get another name, chocolate's taken.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 03:26 PM (OX9vb)

194 >Huh?
>Still a headline at Faux On-Line.

Still a headline at many sites including Ynet

>>Axios: Biden admin delaying weapons shipments to Israel amid Rafah considerations

https://tinyurl.com/yk6v2fj2

But it's only impeachable when Trump does it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 03:26 PM (LkLld)

195 Kings of old couldn't get produce out of season.

I'm eating a lemon right now. It's fucking sour!

Posted by: Tom Perry at May 05, 2024 03:26 PM (MX0bI)

196 Hah, The Food That Built America is on right now . This is episode on Heinz.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:27 PM (MNhXM)

197 The regime does not have the guts to face the political firestorm which would result from sanctioning Israel, imo.

Considering that Hamas is just playing for time now, & hoping that something might turn up (like Mister Micawber), I suspect the Biden regime is running out of patience with them.

All Blinken's stuff about "Israel has made a very generous offer and Hamas should take it" leads me to conclude that the U.S. has grown sick of Hamas equivocating.

Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:27 PM (NLIak)

198 I'm fine with mint, coconut, peanut butter, marshmallows and basically anything in my chocolates with the exception of anything jellied like cherries.
Although, I don't mind the cherries when they're whipped.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 03:27 PM (NpAcC)

199 i saw 180 degree catastrophe open for mostly harmless at the castle argh back in the noughties.

Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:28 PM (edU/H)

200 I've a Whirlpool top loader, don't put your hand in there while it's running - the raise lid cut-off switch broke but now it's 'fixed'. It's better than ten years old and running strong.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:28 PM (lCWOD)

201 198 I'm fine with mint, coconut, peanut butter, marshmallows and basically anything in my chocolates with the exception of anything jellied like cherries.
Although, I don't mind the cherries when they're whipped.


keeps 'em from gettin' uppity. whip 'em. whip 'em good.

Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:29 PM (edU/H)

202 >>All Blinken's stuff about "Israel has made a very generous offer and Hamas should take it" leads me to conclude that the U.S. has grown sick of Hamas equivocating.

Gonna be a hot time at the DNC in Chicago this year.


The Days of Rage are back in style.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)

203 Why is a microbrewery a good thing, but a micropenis is bad?
Posted by: David Hogg at May 05, 2024 03:13 PM (V5BDR)
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If you have to ask...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 03:31 PM (Be/+i)

204 I guess I'll have to return the entire box.

Posted by: There's a reason I don't keep candy in the house at May 05, 2024 03:31 PM (HnUIn)

205 Dio

Check out Times of Israel (ToI). Israel says Axios is dead-ass wrong. Period, the end.

I scan ToI several times a day. Politically, ToI is leftish & not to my taste, but it's war reporting has been very solid, imo.

Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:32 PM (NLIak)

206 That upside down chocolate could easily be a critical nut on a 737 wing. QC is shit in this country right now.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 05, 2024 03:33 PM (aFNOf)

207 What happened to our industrial base that a box of chocolates (dark chocolates with mostly caramels...of course) can slip past supposedly rigorous quality control and reveal a 180 degree catastrophe?
++++
Hmmm. Perhaps. It's less damning that the Oreo where both cookies are in the same orientation (one cookie has the embossed side stuffed into the cream layer). At least with this, I could speculate that it happened during shipping because someone was a little rough with the forklift...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 03:33 PM (HnUIn)

208 Miami Grand Prix in less than 1/2 hour

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 03:33 PM (fwDg9)

209

The Days of Rage are back in style.
Posted by: JackStraw

The dems earned every bit of what they're going to get.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 03:33 PM (HDU5E)

210 I wonder if they are peaking too early or just practicing for October?

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 03:35 PM (fwDg9)

211 Check out Times of Israel (ToI). Israel says Axios is dead-ass wrong. Period, the end.

I scan ToI several times a day. Politically, ToI is leftish & not to my taste, but it's war reporting has been very solid, imo.
Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:32 PM (NLIak)
***

I'll do that, thanxs. Agree about ToI. Good coverage.
Getting ready here for family visits so I haven't been on line much.
Well, except for here, and only then when Ace doesn't drop a shelf onto the server.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:35 PM (W/lyH)

212 My Mr Coffee does not disassemble

you cannot take the electrics out to give the housing a good scrub

tried once

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 03:36 PM (/7KEl)

213 Okay The —- That Built America has just jumped the shark. The latest series that I just saw promo for is Disney That Built America.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:36 PM (MNhXM)

214 when Ace doesn't drop a shelf onto the server.
Posted by: Diogenes

I thought that was Pixy's job?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 03:36 PM (HDU5E)

215 >>The dems earned every bit of what they're going to get.

Having their convention in Chicago with Barry's friend from the neighborhooo, Bill Ayers, is just asking for festivities.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 03:37 PM (LkLld)

216 So many things...

@TheBabylonBee 6m
Disney World Announces New 'The Chosen' Roller Coaster Which Goes Underground For 3 Days Before Rising Again

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 03:37 PM (IG4Id)

217 aw geez

with the candy up top I thought this was the food thread

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 03:37 PM (/7KEl)

218 147 White chocolate does not contain cacao and is not chocolate. It's some kind of dreck.

it's transchocolate.

Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:38 PM (edU/H)

219 'We will fight alone if we have to. Never again is now'
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday addressed the opening ceremony of Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Israel National News
May 5, 2024, 9:08 PM (GMT+3)

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:38 PM (lCWOD)

220 The best thing you can do with a Mr Coffee is toss it and replace it with a French press

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 03:38 PM (YRsIm)

221 The best thing you can do with a Mr Coffee is toss it and replace it with a French press
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 03:38 PM (YRsIm)
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But it was endorsed by Joe diMaggio!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 03:39 PM (Be/+i)

222 I hope you tried the ram's bladder cup. It's quite breathtaking. The larks' vomit really sets it off.

Posted by: Whiz O at May 05, 2024 03:39 PM (Vf0uo)

223 "Eighty years ago, in the Holocaust, the Jewish people were totally defenseless against those who sought our destruction. No nation came to our aid.

"Today, we again confront enemies bent on our destruction."

"I say to the leaders of the world, no amount of pressure, no decision by any international forum, will stop Israel from defending itself."

"As the Prime Minister of Israel – the one and only Jewish state – I pledge here today from Jerusalem on this Holocaust Remembrance Day: If Israel is forced to stand alone, Israel will stand alone. But we know we are not alone because countless decent people around the world support our just cause. And I say to you, we will defeat our genocidal enemies. Never again is now!"

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:39 PM (lCWOD)

224 216 So many things...

@TheBabylonBee 6m
Disney World Announces New 'The Chosen' Roller Coaster Which Goes Underground For 3 Days Before Rising Again

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 03:37 PM (IG4Id)
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So they finally admitted it. It goes to Hell for 3 days.

Posted by: Ciampino - Satan Bugs for dinner? at May 05, 2024 03:40 PM (qfLjt)

225 I hope you tried the ram's bladder cup. It's quite breathtaking. The larks' vomit really sets it off.
Posted by: Whiz O at May 05, 2024 03:39 PM (Vf0uo)
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Couldn't get past the Spring Surprise. Too much blood loss.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 03:40 PM (Be/+i)

226 206 That upside down chocolate could easily be a critical nut on a 737 wing. QC is shit in this country right now.

as with boeing, i blame agile.

Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:40 PM (edU/H)

227 The machine works fine

I just wanted to break it down and GI the hell out of it

but it won't come apart

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 03:41 PM (/7KEl)

228 The best thing you can do with a Mr Coffee is toss it and replace it with a French press
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 03:38 PM (YRsIm)
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Heh. I love automatic drip coffee makers. French Presses can make a better quality product, but auto-drips are easy and consistent and good enough.

There's a better reason to toss your Mr. Coffee, though. The product was first introduced to the market in 1973, which is also the first year that Joe Biden had political power in this country. Clearly, Mr. Coffee was a wrong turn somehow...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)

229 That upside down chocolate could easily be a critical nut on a 737 wing. QC is shit in this country right now.

as with boeing, i blame agile.
Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:40 PM (edU/H)
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How about Lean? That was a thing at Boeing for awhile.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (Be/+i)

230 and if it ever conks out I'll just make pour over

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (/7KEl)

231 212 My Mr Coffee does not disassemble
you cannot take the electrics out to give the housing a good scrub
tried once
Posted by: Don Black
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Brew up a couple of pots of distilled white vinegar 9%.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (lCWOD)

232 as with boeing, i blame agile.
Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:40 PM (edU/H)
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How about Lean? That was a thing at Boeing for awhile.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (Be/+i)
++++
Ooh! Ooh! Six Sigma!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)

233 Check out Times of Israel (ToI). Israel says Axios is dead-ass wrong. Period, the end.

I scan ToI several times a day. Politically, ToI is leftish & not to my taste, but it's war reporting has been very solid, imo.
Posted by: mnw at May 05, 2024 03:32 PM (NLIak)

Why can’t the WH just make a statement they have not delayed the shipment? Most likely because they have. The other possibility is that they don’t want to lose more lefty Hamas supporting votes.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 03:43 PM (MNhXM)

234 Brew up a couple of pots of distilled white vinegar 9%.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:42 PM (lCWOD)
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Yup, this is what I do.

Except the first time, when I didn't dilute the vinegar and just ran it through. It took maybe 15 full pots of water to rinse it enough. I wasn't sure it would ever be usable again.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 03:43 PM (HnUIn)

235 Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:39 PM (lCWOD)

Good to hear that stated out loud for everyone to hear. No equivocation, no 'politically correct' or 'statesmanship' language.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 03:43 PM (YRsIm)

236
The fvcking law firm suing the Boy Scouts of America likes to contact me on weekends and especially holidays for testimony. My BP is probably through the sky right now as they contacted me today. The BSA had a database of abusers. Give me the names of people employed at Resica Falls Reservation, PA you fired between 1960 and 1980. I'll find the perp.

Then sue the pedophile individually. The justice system in this country is bass ackwards.

:: kicks soapbox away in disgust ::

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 03:43 PM (RKVpM)

237 Never again is now!

A great phrase that should be echoed around the world.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:44 PM (W/lyH)

238 229 That upside down chocolate could easily be a critical nut on a 737 wing. QC is shit in this country right now.

as with boeing, i blame agile.
Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:40 PM (edU/H)
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How about Lean? That was a thing at Boeing for awhile.


there's still a big banner proclaiming pride in being the organization's first cmmi level 5 outfit painted all over the building next to the one i work in. i suspect no one is agile enough to climb up there and graffiti over it.

Posted by: anachronda at May 05, 2024 03:45 PM (edU/H)

239 I was just looking forward to the unbridled joy that every man feels when he dismantles a coffee maker

I am going to be ALLOWED
to FULFILL MY DESTINY

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 03:45 PM (/7KEl)

240 Chocolate was made for cherries and cherries made for chocolate. Give me a See's Mayfair, please.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 03:46 PM (RIvkX)

241 Is Jimmy Carter still alive?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 03:47 PM (GN2QT)

242 234
So what is the proper dilution? To 1%?

Posted by: Ciampino - Satan Bugs for dinner?! at May 05, 2024 03:48 PM (qfLjt)

243 So what is the proper dilution? To 1%?
Posted by: Ciampino - Satan Bugs for dinner?! at May 05, 2024 03:48 PM (qfLjt)
++++
Normal off-the-shelf supermarket vinegar, i use 1:3 ratio to distilled water. I am sure others have other answers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 03:49 PM (HnUIn)

244 Is Jimmy Carter still alive?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 03:47 PM (GN2QT)
===
*checks wristwatch*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 03:50 PM (RIvkX)

245
there's still a big banner proclaiming pride in being the organization's first cmmi level 5 outfit painted all over the building next to the one i work in.

What is CMMI?
The Capability Maturity Model Integration (CMMI)® is a proven set of global best practices that drives business performance through building and benchmarking key capabilities.

Hello Dilbert!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 03:50 PM (63Dwl)

246 Jimmy ain't going to meet his maker anytime soon

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 03:51 PM (fwDg9)

247 I hope Jimmah's last vision is Hamas begging Israel for mercy before being destroyed.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 03:51 PM (YRsIm)

248 Speaking of dark chocolate

Consumer Report just published a report on the lead and cadmium levels in dark chocolate. They used California's legal levels as the reference.

Ghirardelli measured in at IIRC 39% below the CA limit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 03:52 PM (GN2QT)

249 In Desert Storm, my NCOIC packed up a Mr Coffee. It made the trip from Germany to Saudi Arabia, to Iraq and Kuwait. It survived dust storms, howling winds, SCUD attacks, and frequent moves. It never failed.
I wonder what ever happened to it?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:54 PM (W/lyH)

250 Drop the puck you hosers.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 03:54 PM (LkLld)

251
The BSA had a database of abusers. Give me the names of people employed at Resica Falls Reservation, PA you fired between 1960 and 1980. I'll find the perp.

Then sue the pedophile individually. The justice system in this country is bass ackwards.

:: kicks soapbox away in disgust ::
Posted by: Divide by Zero


But that's why Willie Sutton wasn't a pickpocket.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 03:54 PM (63Dwl)

252 >>> 248 Speaking of dark chocolate

Consumer Report just published a report on the lead and cadmium levels in dark chocolate. They used California's legal levels as the reference.

Ghirardelli measured in at IIRC 39% below the CA limit.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 03:52 PM (GN2QT)

So, one could melt dark chocolate, put it in a centrifuge, and extract lead for ammo???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 03:54 PM (llON8)

253 So, one could melt dark chocolate, put it in a centrifuge, and extract lead for ammo???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 03:54 PM (llON
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And cadmium for control rods!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 03:55 PM (Be/+i)

254 >>> Consumer Report just published a report on the lead and cadmium levels in dark chocolate. They used California's legal levels as the reference.

Ghirardelli measured in at IIRC 39% below the CA limit.
Posted by: Anna Puma
---------------

Ralph Nader has entered the conversation

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:55 PM (lCWOD)

255 189 >>Why do I always get the nasty coconut filled ones?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Because the penguin filled ones go bad too quick?
Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2024 03:19 PM (HQ9Sl)

heh

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 03:56 PM (o3SCB)

256 Ralph Nader has entered the conversation
Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:55 PM (lCWOD)


My Corvair was a FWP.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 03:57 PM (W/lyH)

257 Is Ralph Nader still alive?

RFK Jr/Nader 2024

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 03:57 PM (GN2QT)

258 US held up ammo shipment to Israel
According to Israeli officials, the incident raised serious concerns inside the Israeli government and sent officials scrambling to understand why the shipment was held.
Israel National News
May 5, 2024, 10:28 PM (GMT+3)

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 04:00 PM (lCWOD)

259 Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio, our nation turns it's coffee eyes to you?

Posted by: S &G at May 05, 2024 04:00 PM (dg+HA)

260 I have a Cuisinhart (sp?) that is over 15 years. Starting to leak at the outflow valve above the pot so will probably be replaced. I have a similar one I bought on sale 10+ years ago, still in its box. Also daughter bought one that can do 1 cup to 12 cups plus ice-coffees. Also still in box.

Posted by: Ciampino - coffee-makers are cheap at May 05, 2024 04:00 PM (qfLjt)

261 219 'We will fight alone if we have to. Never again is now'
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday addressed the opening ceremony of Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Israel National News
May 5, 2024, 9:08 PM (GMT+3)
Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 03:38 PM (lCWOD)

Blessings on him.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:01 PM (o3SCB)

262 FOODIE NOODIE TIME TO GET CLEANED UP AND UPSTAIRS

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:01 PM (fwDg9)

263 NOOD FOOD

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 04:02 PM (llON8)

264 258
According to Israeli officials, the incident raised serious concerns inside the Israeli government and sent officials scrambling to understand why the shipment was held.

--
Because they want you to lose.

Posted by: Ciampino - quit dawdling and wipe that scum up at May 05, 2024 04:02 PM (qfLjt)

265
But that's why Willie Sutton wasn't a pickpocket.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 03:54 PM


Yeah, but money flows to me from the BSA, it flows to my lawyer, and I make some pedophile bankrupt himself defending against a true accusation of abuse. If he's still alive and the various means that G-d has to take these pervs off the planet haven't already escorted him to his justly (and very hot) reward.

Just give me some names, BSA. I'll find him. F'n Guaranteed.

If you don't, you deserve to die - as a RICO organization.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 04:03 PM (RKVpM)

266 257 Is Ralph Nader still alive?

RFK Jr/Nader 2024
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 03:57 PM (GN2QT)


*kicks dirt*

Posted by: Zombie Pat Paulsen at May 05, 2024 04:03 PM (PiwSw)

267 The pot on my Faber is cracked, doesn't leak. Going to strip an old extension cord piece and wrap a wire around the neck.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 04:03 PM (lCWOD)

268 And now, for your listening pleasure, climate crisis wacko gets all shouty and threatening.

https://shorturl.at/ksyPZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 04:06 PM (L/fGl)

269 for comparison

At the signing of the agreement that brought an end to 2,194 days of global war, MacArthur told the world in a radio broadcast, “Today the guns are silent. A great tragedy has ended. A great victory has been won.”

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:12 PM (o3SCB)

270 Goal!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 04:14 PM (LkLld)

271 Every box of blueberries has to be closely scrutinized for stems and dead flower heads. Every. Damn. Box!

Aelishdad

Posted by: Dale Sigler at May 05, 2024 04:27 PM (lBBcD)

272 First lesson I learned after moving to Massachusetts

I ordered a chocolate shake and got chocolate milk
……… oooh… you want a Frappe

Didn't take long before I left that heathen state

Posted by: kactus at May 05, 2024 04:48 PM (K93PH)

273 The Chicago Teachers Union is demanding a new contract that pays for free abortions, $2,000 for each illegal immigrant, for unused schools to be turned into migrant homes, they want the ability to lie to parents about their kid’s gender identity and $50 billion in wage hikes to take their average salary from $93,182 to $144,620 by 2027.

For context the ENTIRE state of Illinois only brought in $50.7 Billion in taxes last year.

They also want educators to be trained YEARLY on LGBTQ+ issues (also known as forced indoctrination into the woke cult) AND to have gender neutral bathrooms in schools.

Oh and they want to have a "newcomer liaison" hired at every school for illegal aliens.

Only 21% of 8th grade kids are proficient readers in Chicago and they have the gall to ask for this. Teachers unions might be the most damaging thing to the education of children today. No accountability and no competition breeds failure and entitlement.

https://bit.ly/4b0IxzK

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 04:53 PM (P5BPp)

274 Even though Google Translate exists the internet does not really support irony. First World Problems always risked disappearing into its own belly button lint and finally succeeded with upside down chocolate bonbon.

Posted by: Setsoru at May 05, 2024 04:54 PM (EQ18D)

275 Cadmium Bars are made in England, right?

Posted by: Chocoholic at May 05, 2024 05:31 PM (V5BDR)

276 Holy shit. This is Harvard’s Medical School. I’d trust Medical Advice from a Conspiracy Theorist over these Idiots on any day at any time.

Dancing "Harvard MDs":

https://bit.ly/3Ur5KE9

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 05:39 PM (P5BPp)

277 You can forget about Trump having any chance at all winning Michigan. That was already assumed after the ridiculous Proposal 2 was passed in 2022, which pretty much enshrined election fraud in the state constitution. This legislation will now pretty much guarantee Democrat victory in elections for the foreseeable future.

Michigan Senator Releases Stunning Video Exposing Corrupt Bill Democrats Just Passed to Cheat in Elections

https://bit.ly/3wqdVbZ

SB603 Repeals the current law, which gives bipartisan county Boards of Canvassers the authority to investigate fraud and other wrongdoing, including ballot tampering during recounts.

With the passage of their (election-fraud-enabling) Bill, there will be no future route for requesting a recount if you believe there was fraud.

Under their corruption bill, candidates will be prohibited from requesting a recount if they suspect fraud, and is designed to stop investigations of election fraud by the Board of Canvassers.

This disgusting bill will now permit clerks to recount ballots even if seals are broken on ballot containers and was essentially written by the Secretary of State, who was reversed multiple times...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 06:16 PM (P5BPp)

278 Chocolates are what you use to lure random prostitutes into your boxcar so you can bide your time until the next central station.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 05, 2024 06:20 PM (pDQ/8)

279 Test
🙄

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 07:59 PM (/y8xj)

280 "Teachers unions might be the most damaging thing to the education of children today."

The School of Education in every university: lowest SATs, highest GPAs.
A B.A. in education is 13th, 14th, 15th, and 16th grades, with "social promotion".
A graduate degree in education is a participation trophy.
Teacher's Unions (NEA included) are just distilled concentrated "Education".

Posted by: buddhaha at May 05, 2024 08:19 PM (uOiZ0)

You'll Buy Our Products And You Will LIke Them!

The modern fascistic American corporation is perfectly content to shove crap products nobody wants down our throats.

Except...eventually consumers say...NO!

Plant-based meat sales down in US as customers dislike taste, price: report

Data showed that while those who bought plant-based substitutes in previous years continued to do so, companies failed to entice new customers.

According to GFI, unit sales were down 9 percent in 2023 while dollar sales fell by 2 percent. As a result, the plant-based food market in the US went from being worth $8.2 billion the year before to $8.1 billion.


Well, actually, it's clear that existing customers are leaving too! Factor in inflation, and it's even uglier than at first glance.

This pattern holds true with all sorts of businesses, including the sacrament of The Sustainable Organic Church of The Carbon Apocalypse...the electric vehicle. The business plan is embarrassingly simplistic, and consumers aren't going along with it.

But look at other businesses that push crap we don't want. Lingerie for morbidly obese women? Shaving cream for transsexuals? mRNA-based vaccines that are a health crisis in waiting? Lesbian Studies degrees from 3rd tier colleges?

These products are going the way of the Dodo, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of lickspittle wanna-be fascists.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Buy juck products

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:05 PM (fwDg9)

2 BRING IN INSECT BASED MEATS!!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2024 12:06 PM (Q+xTH)

3 What’s juck, precious?

Posted by: Gollum at May 05, 2024 12:07 PM (u73oe)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 12:08 PM (T4tVD)

5 Beyond Meat

No thank you, I prefer steak

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:09 PM (fwDg9)

6 You don't like electric cars.... fine, busses and trains it is

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2024 12:10 PM (Q+xTH)

7 Maybe it's time for Soylent Green?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 05, 2024 12:10 PM (VqCOT)

8
I wonder if the 'plant based meat products' carry the new label of 'Contains bioenginered food ingredients'?

GMO is out, that's the new label.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 12:12 PM (RKVpM)

9 Holy crap, Ceeb! - you're on a Most Excellent Rant™! Keep it goin' ...

Posted by: Dr_No at May 05, 2024 12:12 PM (ayRl+)

10 Oops - I forgot: FIRST! (?)

Posted by: Dr_No at May 05, 2024 12:13 PM (ayRl+)

11 Maybe it's time for Soylent Green?
Posted by: Chairborne!

Although this should have been saved for the food thread...
Now being served in Haiti in the unprocessed form.
Not to be outdone: Brandon says his uncle was 'processed' the same way.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 12:15 PM (udFnE)

12 As I get older, I buy less crapola and usually stick to products I know and have a use for.

Like wimmen, booze, ammo, food and clean skivvies.

I avoid any product advertised as it usually means it's overpriced and I can find a store brand or lesser known item which works or tastes better.

Like RC Cola.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 12:15 PM (R/m4+)

13 But look at other businesses that push crap we don't want. Lingerie for morbidly obese women? Shaving cream for transsexuals? mRNA-based vaccines that are a health crisis in waiting? Lesbian Studies degrees from 3rd tier colleges?


What?

Posted by: Sports Illustrated at May 05, 2024 12:16 PM (CsUN+)

14 I didn't bjst my ass for.40 years just to.settle.for.what they want to shove at me.
I'll eat what I want, when I want, and how I want. And that includes French toast!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (W/lyH)

15 The only thing I still have faith in (besides the Lord) is the boundless stupidity of my fellow citizen.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (VqCOT)

16 >>The modern fascistic American corporation is perfectly content to shove crap products nobody wants down our throats.

Goes for fake presidents too. Trump is going to crush Joe with legal votes.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (LkLld)

17 The problem is when this is mirrored in city/state/federal projects.

Just read an article in a local free paper about a project to eliminate one of the two lanes (in both directions) of a major east-west street: " The --- Lane Reduction Study. . . to determine the impact of the lane reduction and how best repurpose that lane space to enhance the safety of all users. This project began in 2018 with analysis and design, and construction is set to occur in 2024-2025."

The kicker? There's nothing about what these lanes will be used for -- in the name of "eliminating congestion on our roadways."

6 years of analysis and they can't even tell us what they've dreamed up to use that roadway space for, despite the city growing a lot in those same years, thus having to handle *increased* traffic.

This is insanity, the endless takeover of city streets for bike lanes, as if they will magically get us all to commute by bike because traffic suuuucks so hard.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (cCVOS)

18 I need more.coffee.
That last post sucked.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 12:18 PM (W/lyH)

19 7 Maybe it's time for Soylent Green?

---

We could finally get some value out all of the illegal and homeless bums.

I bet meat from a meth addict tastes different

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2024 12:18 PM (Q+xTH)

20 I’ll never buy an EV if given any choice in the matter. And why would I want artificial meat when the real article is so tasty? I just had some braised beef for an early lunch and it was delicious!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 05, 2024 12:19 PM (TuRLx)

21 6 You don't like electric cars.... fine, busses and trains it is
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

Don't forget ferries! Washington State has promised to transform our fleet of ferries to all electric. What could possibly go wrong.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:19 PM (4tur1)

22 I'll eat what I want, when I want, and how I want. And that includes French toast!

This is my attitude since retiring. I worked my ass off, was a success, am financially sound, have a loving wife, and happy, successful kids.

If you don't like what I say or do, I really (as the kids say) have no f's to give.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:19 PM (CsUN+)

23 I avoid any product advertised as it usually means it's overpriced and I can find a store brand or lesser known item which works or tastes better.

I believe you. But thats not, in general, been the American Experience. Branding, and the resulting Brand Loyalty, defined the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Extend it to politics, and you've absolutely got the 21st Century.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 12:21 PM (pTv5j)

24 6 years of analysis and they can't even tell us what they've dreamed up to use that roadway space for, despite the city growing a lot in those same years, thus having to handle *increased* traffic.

This is insanity, the endless takeover of city streets for bike lanes, as if they will magically get us all to commute by bike because traffic suuuucks so hard.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (cCVOS)
***

A little research into what companies got the contracts for doing the studies will very likely reveal some cousins, in-laws, and siblings to the elected officials.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 12:21 PM (W/lyH)

25 Goes for fake presidents too. Trump is going to crush Joe with legal votes.

I assume the Dems have some sort of algorithm which says "we can push the cheating so far, but no farther, or there will be riots in the street".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:22 PM (CsUN+)

26 The Sustainable Organic Church of The Carbon Apocalypse
****
Now, that's got a ring to it...I may just borrow that phrase in my dealings with the lefties. Thanks!

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 12:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 You don't like electric cars.... fine, busses and trains it is
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

Don't forget ferries! Washington State has promised to transform our fleet of ferries to all electric. What could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:19 PM (4tur1)

Oooh, ferries!! Oh, THAT kind. Sorry.

Posted by: Zombie Paul Lynde at May 05, 2024 12:23 PM (iODuv)

28 I just had some plant based fish and chips.

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2024 12:23 PM (CM7e9)

29 nurse ratched

Large Diesel motors powering ferries are superior to electric power. Cheaper, more reliable, can stop much faster with controllable pitch propellers, and much easier on Gaia.

Powered with methanol would make them greener, maybe. Jury still out on that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 05, 2024 12:23 PM (u82oZ)

30 I assume the Dems have some sort of algorithm which says "we can push the cheating so far, but no farther, or there will be riots in the street".
********
Wait, I thought they wanted riots in the streets. Or is it only mainly peaceful protests?

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 12:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

31 Plant-based meat is for pussies who won't eat seitan.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 12:23 PM (RIvkX)

32 I assume the Dems have some sort of algorithm which says "we can push the cheating so far, but no farther, or there will be riots in the street".

My entire thinking that 5 points of fraud were possible prior to 2020 revolved around how well the DNC had always ran fraud in the deep blue enclaves. I was told by the experts I didn't know what I was talking about.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 12:24 PM (pTv5j)

33 The problem is when this is mirrored in city/state/federal projects.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (cCVOS)

I’m annoyed with my town at the moment. It’s a deep red area and yet yesterday in municipal elections voters approved multiple bond initiatives for millions of dollars! One for road work; another for police; another for parks and rec. All these things are fine right now, we don’t need to spend millions, but….. oh, and less than 2% of eligible voters bothered to vote. Because it’s just a city election? Governments are the big corporations of all…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 05, 2024 12:25 PM (TuRLx)

34 Archimedes you would think so but remember Leftism is one stage thinking

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:25 PM (fwDg9)

35 Bahahahaha.

'Violent' leader of Columbia University's anti-Israel protest is unmasked as son of millionaire ad execs who is married to a model and lives in $3.4M Brooklyn brownstone

https://tinyurl.com/2b4xx7wy

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)

36 Another local folly for "climate change" is the zoning for high density housing with no parking requirement in the construction. As if people will move into these high-rises and magically give up their cars?
No, this puts more cars on the city streets -- the same city streets where they are eliminating lanes and replacing them with bike lanes, thus eliminating on-street parking, too.

It's bad enough for the residents of these apartments/condos, but then factor in service vehicles - anything form door dash, plumbers, caregivers for the unwell/homebound, etc..

We can't count on the city hurting the same way a business can via lost revenue. We'll be feeling the sting of these ridiculous "green" projects.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:25 PM (cCVOS)

37 The kicker? There's nothing about what these lanes will be used for -- in the name of "eliminating congestion on our roadways."

6 years of analysis and they can't even tell us what they've dreamed up to use that roadway space for, despite the city growing a lot in those same years, thus having to handle *increased* traffic.

This is insanity, the endless takeover of city streets for bike lanes, as if they will magically get us all to commute by bike because traffic suuuucks so hard.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (cCVOS)
===
This is called road diet.

"Fewer lanes will reduce traffic"

ALL LIES

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 12:26 PM (RIvkX)

38 Little fishes eat plankton and big fishes eat little fishes and then get eaten by me. Plant based.

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2024 12:26 PM (CM7e9)

39 Don't forget ferries! Washington State has promised to transform our fleet of ferries to all electric. What could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:19 PM (4tur1)

Heh.
Somewhere in an obscure warehouse in Olympia sit two monster boat engines that were purchased some years ago (the Gregoire regime) to replace worn out engines on two of the ferries.
The only problem was the engines didn't fit the ferries.
The state eventually bought new boats.
Last I heard they still had not sold the engines.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 12:26 PM (W/lyH)

40 Gavin did the same thing all the time when he was Mayor.

"By cutting street cleaning in half, we will have cleaner streets." What a big dummy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 12:27 PM (RIvkX)

41 The Electric Fairies would be a good name for a band.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 05, 2024 12:27 PM (PiwSw)

42 Another local folly for "climate change" is the zoning for high density housing with no parking requirement in the construction. As if people will move into these high-rises and magically give up their cars?
No, this puts more cars on the city streets -- the same city streets where they are eliminating lanes and replacing them with bike lanes, thus eliminating on-street parking, too.

----

You don't need transportation or real food in the matrix

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2024 12:28 PM (Q+xTH)

43 Don't drink alcohol, use tobacco, eat red meat or sugary treats.

You won't live forever, but it will sure as hell seem like it.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:29 PM (l4B/J)

44 Speaking of bikes, we are on vacation and using bikes to get around and its fun for a while until its not.

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2024 12:29 PM (CM7e9)

45 'Violent' leader of Columbia University's anti-Israel protest is unmasked as son of millionaire ad execs who is married to a model and lives in $3.4M Brooklyn brownstone

https://tinyurl.com/2b4xx7wy
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)


"How are you doing, fellow students?"

Posted by: Ian S. at May 05, 2024 12:29 PM (FD5dr)

46 Anybody notice videos of little bugs in your oreos and your ramen noodles?

Who wants to bet this is being pushed by the cricket lobby to show you that you've been eeting zee bugz all along?

Posted by: cpurick at May 05, 2024 12:29 PM (lNjg1)

47 This is insanity, the endless takeover of city streets for bike lanes, as if they will magically get us all to commute by bike because traffic suuuucks so hard.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:17 PM (cCVOS)
===
This is called road diet.

"Fewer lanes will reduce traffic"

ALL LIES


We used to get that all the time here in NoVa.

"We won't build any roads, and therefore people won't move here, but will stay close in."

WRONG!!! This inevitably led to construction of the long-needed road, but only after the cost due to ongoing development raised the price by an order of magnitude, and put big arterial roads right through the middle of subdivisions.

In the meantime, millions and millions of man hours and gallons of gas were wasted idling in congested traffic.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)

48
BRING IN INSECT BASED MEATS!!!!
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2024 12:06 PM (Q+xTH)

_________

Then: Maximum allowed amount of insect parts in food.

Now: Maximum allowed amount of food in insect parts.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 12:30 PM (MoZTd)

49 I'm puzzled by pharmaceutical ads which don't mention the disease they are supposed to treat. Just "Ask your doctor if Xyzabaczyn is right for you." Huh? Is the illness so vile that none dare say its name? Is it caused by doing something so immoral and disgusting that they can't say it in print or on TV? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 05, 2024 12:30 PM (Js20g)

50 "Plant based meat products" were always a money sink.

Recall the memes during the Kung Flu Freakout Food Shortage where meat cases were completely empty but the tofu based crap were fully stocked; frozen pizza sold out but the wholly synthetic crap; etc.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 12:31 PM (cOq4q)

51 Violent leader of Columbia University's anti-Israel protest is unmasked as son of millionaire ad execs who is married to a model and lives in $3.4M Brooklyn brownstone
https://tinyurl.com/2b4xx7wy
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)

What a scum bag. 40 years old going on 8.

He needs an ass beating.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 12:31 PM (R/m4+)

52 He needs an ass beating.

Just the one?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:32 PM (CsUN+)

53 Plant-based meat is for pussies who won't eat seitan.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Had to look "seitan" up. I'll pass on both, thank you very much.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (ju2Fy)

54 You vill eat ze bugs.

Posted by: Klaus at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (+xYe0)

55 Lesbian Studies degrees from 3rd tier colleges?

I've been given to understand that one can study lesbianism simply by perusing certain tabs on the browsers of some Tier One bloggers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (a3Q+t)

56 And that includes French toast!

Posted by: Diogenes

Dude, way to just come right out and tell CBD you put maple syrup on yer French Toast.

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (MsrgL)

57 Anybody notice videos of little bugs in your oreos and your ramen noodles?

Who wants to bet this is being pushed by the cricket lobby to show you that you've been eeting zee bugz all along?
Posted by: cpurick


Don't believe everything you see on the interwebs. Also grain beetles are in every grain product. They just exist as a matter of the product. Can't screen them out without destroying the ingredient.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (IG4Id)

58 I get annoyed by ads that are nothing but flashing images and sound and then never even show you what the fucking product is. Or if they do it's so fleeting that you only catch it after watching the ad 39 times.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (VqCOT)

59 You vill eat ze bugs.

Nein, nein, nein.

"You vill eet zee boogs!

Posted by: World Economic Forum style guide at May 05, 2024 12:36 PM (FD5dr)

60
Xyzabaczyn

__________

I thought that was a city in Poland.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 12:37 PM (MoZTd)

61 >> "Plant based meat products" were always a money sink.


Always fun to see who's invested in these ventures.

Over the years 2013 to 2016, (Beyond Meat) received venture funding from GreatPoint Ventures, Kleiner Perkins, Obvious Corporation, Bill Gates, Biz Stone, the Humane Society and Tyson Foods. . . Beyond Meat is also backed by celebrity and athlete investors such as Leonardo DiCaprio, Jessica Chastain, Snoop Dogg, Liza Koshy, Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving, DeAndre Hopkins and others.

And Oatly, the fake milk company:

Oatly is now part-owned by The Blackstone Group (7%), Verlinvest, 45,9% via Nativus Company Limited a part of China Resources (a conglomerate owned by the Chinese state), Industrifonden, Östersjöstiftelsen, and the employees. The group also included celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey and Jay-Z, as well as Starbucks founder Howard Schultz.

So, these celebrities have a stake in forcing us off meat and dairy.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2024 12:37 PM (cCVOS)

62 Fake burger with a side of bugs. The AmeriKa 2.0 bbq.

Posted by: Montec at May 05, 2024 12:38 PM (DXvEo)

63 I've been given to understand that one can study lesbianism simply by perusing certain tabs on the browsers of some Tier One bloggers.

Is a Tier One blogger anything like a Tier One operator?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 05, 2024 12:38 PM (FD5dr)

64 ... the cricket lobby ...
Posted by: cpurick at May 05, 2024 12:29 PM (lNjg1)

Releasing bees in the stadiums.

Posted by: Reutrn the US to the commonwealth. at May 05, 2024 12:38 PM (+xYe0)

65 58 I get annoyed by ads that are nothing but flashing images and sound and then never even show you what the fucking product is. Or if they do it's so fleeting that you only catch it after watching the ad 39 times.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 05, 2024 12:35 PM (VqCOT)

Tee hee.
- Fashion ads since forever.

Posted by: Montec at May 05, 2024 12:39 PM (DXvEo)

66 Sous vide crickets!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 12:40 PM (NpAcC)

67 Young men will do anything to look down a girl's shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsdr3-dey2Y

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:42 PM (CsUN+)

68 When the Consumer decides the things a Corporation makes and sells we have Capitalism. When the Govt dictates the things Corporations will make and sell you have Fascism. The real left-wing kind instead of the imaginary right-wing kind.

Posted by: Fisht at May 05, 2024 12:43 PM (BHEHK)

69 The main road thru southeast Queens is Merrick blvd. The city took one of the two lanes and made it a bus lane M-F 6am to 4pm. Traffic is worse and the kicker is during off hours, no one drives in the bus lane.

Posted by: Jamaica at May 05, 2024 12:43 PM (IG7T0)

70 Speaking of cr@p.

Sony has ganked Helldivers II by requiring all PC players to create a PSN account.

Despite PC players of the game in over 100 countries that do not have access to PSN.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 05, 2024 12:44 PM (GN2QT)

71 I just bought a 3d printer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 12:44 PM (lhenN)

72 OK, which ette was this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXSREHYstkQ

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:45 PM (CsUN+)

73 Mitt Burgum, the plant-based meat of VP candidates.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at May 05, 2024 12:47 PM (qUkBO)

74 I find this entire thread to be entirely distasteful.

Posted by: Jiminy Cricket at May 05, 2024 12:47 PM (PiwSw)

75 Bourbon Chicken can ask about how much?

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:48 PM (fwDg9)

76 Sometimes the hand isn't so invisible.

Posted by: Adam Smith at May 05, 2024 12:48 PM (dg+HA)

77 Quiet in here today. Too quiet.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's too quiet at May 05, 2024 12:49 PM (CsUN+)

78 A simple explanation of our economy over the last fifty years is that advances in technology and global supply chain outsourcing have made making things much more efficient, which should have lowered prices substantially for all sorts of things, but this deflationary benefit was eaten up by growth in government (5 to 20% of jobs), bloated big company payrolls, and government handouts.

People with "Mike Rowe" jobs saw little or no benefit from this and are actually net losers.

And there's a high correlation between the split between those who've benefited and those who have not, to the increasing political divide between MAGA America and those in the Borg.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 12:50 PM (Gse2f)

79 I just bought a 3d printer.
Posted by: BourbonChicken


No sex toy pic, thx.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 12:51 PM (IG4Id)

80 I work with a vegan RN. It was probably the second thing I learned about him after his name. Oh and that he's gay.

Anyway, he brings his fake meat and fake cheese food to work for us to try (under duress).

Two bites and my gut hurts from the over processed fake crap. The mouth feel and flavor aren't horrid. But my gut knows it is not natural.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:51 PM (WsTMd)

81 >>I assume the Dems have some sort of algorithm which says "we can push the cheating so far, but no farther, or there will be riots in the street".

That's been my assumption all along. Cheating is only possible when the desired outcome is at least plausible. You don't need to be a rocket surgeon to see that the country is done with Biden and Trump is surging.

Turns out most Americans don't like corruption and tyranny.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 12:52 PM (LkLld)

82 Two cannibals walking in the forest after a brief hiatus. One says to the other, "Did we pass an aviator back there?"

True story -- FJB

Posted by: Ciampino - and no toilet paper at May 05, 2024 12:52 PM (qfLjt)

83 Lesbian Studies degrees from 3rd tier colleges?

Is an Ivy League lesbian studies degree that much better than your average state university?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 05, 2024 12:52 PM (noPDf)

84 CDC thinks rural living is more hazardous to your health than city life. Lot of holes in this report, (no definition of either 'preventable' or 'premature', included individuals up to age 80, trying to apply population statistics to individuals, etc.) but is the hidden agenda peeking out from behind the curtain? Flyover counties bad!!!

"During 2010–2022, nonmetropolitan counties had higher percentages of preventable premature deaths from the five leading causes of death than did metropolitan counties nationwide..."


https://is.gd/NrDAqR

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:53 PM (l4B/J)

85 Anyway, he brings his fake meat and fake cheese food to work for us to try (under duress).
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I have seen the future, and it is tummy rumbles and flatulence.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 12:54 PM (Be/+i)

86 Data showed that while those who bought plant-based substitutes in previous years continued to do so, companies failed to entice new customers.
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Hmmm. What about quantities or unit prices? As CBD mentioned, the total market value is down. So either those people who "continued to do so" did so *less* than before, or it got cheaper, or it's a lie.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 12:54 PM (HnUIn)

87 I would have to search a little but on TMP a guy from I think New Zealand makes WWII models with a printer that are absolutely perfect

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:56 PM (fwDg9)

88 I just bought a 3d printer.

********

Why? Aren't two enough? Or were the 1st and 2d ones not working?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:56 PM (l4B/J)

89 "Plant-based X" borders on false advertising. It's not "plant-based" so much as "lab-produced with vegetable inputs." They're all synthetics. It's "plant-based" the same way that nylon is a "dinosaur-based fabric."

You know what *is* "plant-based meat" with far fewer steps? Meat. Animals eat low-quality and nutrient-poor vegetation and convert it into high-quality and nutrient-rich protein. Livestock are excellent chemical conversion plants.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 12:57 PM (HnUIn)

90 @81

Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

Millions who actually voted for Biden last time will at least stay home this time, as they've woken up that Biden & Co are an existential threat to their prosperity and safety.

To work this time, the Steal will need to be enormous and obvious.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 12:57 PM (Gse2f)

91 Except...eventually consumers say...NO!
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Not once we deliver them into a world with freedom from choice!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 05, 2024 12:58 PM (HnUIn)

92 I just bought a 3d printer.

********

Why? Aren't two enough? Or were the 1st and 2d ones not working?
Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:56 PM (l4B/J)
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It's cheaper to buy a whole new printer than to buy replacement cartridges.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 12:58 PM (Be/+i)

93 >>To work this time, the Steal will need to be enormous and obvious.

Exactly.

We aren't falling for the banana in the tail pipe thing again.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 12:58 PM (LkLld)

94 I have seen the future, and it is tummy rumbles and flatulence.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 12:54 PM (Be/+i)


What can I say, I'm a trend-setter.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (PiwSw)

95
We aren't falling for the banana in the tail pipe thing again.
Posted by: JackStraw

Your optimistic outlook is noted.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (udFnE)

96 Two cannibals walking in the forest after a brief hiatus.

*******

Is that pronounced 'Hy-ay-tus' or 'He-ate-us'?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (l4B/J)

97 Fewer lanes will reduce traffic
..

Some still don't see what's coming. Cars will be banned. Oh I know, you'll never give yours up.

They'll Outlaw gas stations.
...

CDC thinks rural living is more hazardous to your health than city life
..

They're going to forcibly relocate people to cities.

There is historical precedence. These are very real communists and they're almost done making suggestions.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (R4MCD)

98 A driver died after crashing a car into the exterior gate of the White House late Saturday, the US Secret Service said.

“Shortly before 10:30pm a vehicle traveling at a high speed collided with an outer perimeter gate on the White House complex,” the service said in a statement on social media platform X, adding there was “no threat” to the White House itself.

Officers arriving at the scene “attempted to render aid to the driver who was discovered deceased,” the statement said.

The Secret Service, along with the police and fire departments of the District of Columbia, have launched an investigation into the fatal crash, according to Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi.

He added there was “no threat or public safety implications”.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (UfUdn)

99 Lesbian Studies degrees from 3rd tier colleges?


To be honest I would eliminate any subject with the word "studies" in it. "Studies" are nothing more than exercises in navel gazing and are not legitimate courses of education. They create nothing but worthless activists.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 05, 2024 01:00 PM (VqCOT)

100 Reminds me. I gotta grill up a batch of chicken thighs today.
But hey, those chickens ate grain, so it's a plant based food!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 01:00 PM (dg+HA)

101 Locally sourced = on the shelf at the corner bodega.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 01:02 PM (l4B/J)

102 60
Xyzabaczyn

__________

I thought that was a city in Poland.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 12:37 PM (MoZTd)
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There's a Zzyzx in California!

Posted by: Ciampino - and and no toilet paper at May 05, 2024 01:02 PM (qfLjt)

103 Know who else liked to forceably relocate people?

Posted by: Sorry. Couldn't resist at May 05, 2024 01:03 PM (dg+HA)

104 They eliminated a traffic lane and put in a bike lane here in N.O suburb on a busy street. It was ridiculous, a bike lane near the curb, a three foot standoff to a parking lane in what used to be a traffic lane. People rebelled and they had to undo the whole thing.

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 01:04 PM (8I4hW)

105 Xyzabaczyn

__________

I thought that was a city in Poland.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 12:37 PM (MoZTd)
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There's a Zzyzx in California!
Posted by: Ciampino - and and no toilet paper at May 05, 2024 01:02 PM (qfLjt)
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*Szczecin has entered the chat*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:04 PM (Be/+i)

106 Your optimistic outlook is noted.

It's not optimism, it's reality. Look around, do you see any signs of support for the sitting POTUS?

On all the top issues voters say they care about, the economy, illegal immigration, crime, inflation, war, etc. Trump is beating Biden like a rented mule. And things aren't magically going to get better before November.

On top of that we have a shiny new RNC that is actually working to try and at least tamp down Democrat cheating and putting money into ballot harversting and early voting.

Biden can't hide in the basement and have the media create a record for him this election. We are all living his record and nobody is happy. Biden is the least popular president in modern polling history. That takes some doing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 01:05 PM (LkLld)

107 The Biden administration last week put a hold on a shipment of U.S.-made ammunition to Israel, two Israeli officials told Axios.

Absolute scum.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 05, 2024 01:05 PM (uxCna)

108 "They're going to forcibly relocate people to cities."

Pol Pot had the sense to move useless city-dwellers into the country.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 01:05 PM (Gse2f)

109 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper May 4
NEW: Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘black book’ with 221 additional high-profile names is being sold to a secret bidder - NY Post

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:05 PM (UfUdn)

110 There's a Zzyzx in California!
Posted by: Ciampino - and and no toilet paper at May 05, 2024 01:02 PM (qfLjt)

They make zippers there!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 01:06 PM (R4t5M)

111 @81

Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

Millions who actually voted for Biden last time will at least stay home this time, as they've woken up that Biden & Co are an existential threat to their prosperity and safety.

To work this time, the Steal will need to be enormous and obvious.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 12:57 PM (Gse2f)

Right now this is true. My worry is: If Trump is convicted in this sham trial there are some number of voters now on course to vote for Trump who will change their mind because there are many simple minded voters and they’ll say “I can’t vote for a criminal!”…. This trial is pure election interference

Similarly if he’s convicted that’ll make any steal more plausible. I hope one person on that jury has enough courage to hang it

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 05, 2024 01:06 PM (xT8gx)

112 Reminds me. I gotta grill up a batch of chicken thighs today.
But hey, those chickens ate grain, so it's a plant based food!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty


True solar power.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2024 01:06 PM (IG4Id)

113 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper May 3
BREAKING: US Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas and his wife indicted on conspiracy and other charges in probe into ties to Azerbaijan. - AP

NEW: Federal prosecutors indicted US congressman Henry Cuellar, a Democrat from Texas, Friday on bribery and money laundering charges connected to a bank in Mexico and an energy company owned by Azerbaijan.
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Henry Cuellar, a Democrat from Texas, accepted around $600,000 in exchange for advancing the interests of the bank and the former Soviet Republic over seven years through at least November 2021, according to the indictment.

“In exchange for the bribes paid by the Azerbaijani oil and gas company, Congressman Cuellar allegedly agreed to use his office to influence US foreign policy in favor of Azerbaijan” the Department of Justice (DOJ) said in a statement.

“In exchange for the bribes paid by the Mexican bank, Congressman Cuellar allegedly agreed to influence legislative activity and to advise and pressure high-ranking US executive branch officials regarding measures beneficial to the bank.”

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:07 PM (UfUdn)

114 "Well sir, the dogs don't like it."

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:07 PM (/7KEl)

115 >>The Biden administration last week put a hold on a shipment of U.S.-made ammunition to Israel, two Israeli officials told Axios.


I'm so old I remember when this was an impeachable offense.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 01:07 PM (LkLld)

116 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper May 4
NEW 🚨 Japan hit back Saturday at US President Joe Biden’s comments about the Asian ally being “xenophobic” like China and Russia, calling the characterisation “unfortunate” and misguided.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:07 PM (UfUdn)

117 92
Why? Aren't two enough? Or were the 1st and 2d ones not working?
Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:56 PM (l4B/J)
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It's cheaper to buy a whole new printer than to buy replacement cartridges.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 12:58 PM (Be/+

I just bought one of those deep well ones with ink that last more than a year, supposedly. So far so good.

Posted by: Piper at May 05, 2024 01:08 PM (u/mEj)

118 Not seeing much grilling possibly this week

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 01:09 PM (fwDg9)

119 Cuellar got uppity.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 05, 2024 01:09 PM (R4t5M)

120 To work this time, the Steal will need to be enormous and obvious.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 12:57 PM (Gse2f)

I shoulda stuck to extortion and my loan sharking.

I only got one trunk for crying out loud.

What ya gonna do.

Posted by: Fat Sal, Buick LeSabre Trunk Ballot Operator at May 05, 2024 01:09 PM (R/m4+)

121 Know who else liked to forcibly relocate people?

*********

The WWE?


Oh wait, my mistake. I thought you said dislocate.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 01:09 PM (l4B/J)

122 saw an article said Starbucks is losing customers to Dunkins and 7-11

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:09 PM (/7KEl)

123 Sundowner has been pumped full of Cultural Marxism he things the world should be one big melting pot.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 01:10 PM (fwDg9)

124 We DEMAND the college provide us free non-gluten and non-GMO crickets and bug paste, made from organically-raised insects!!! By the tons so we can keep the college closed forever!

- Pro-Islamic Jihad and Death to All Civilization campus protestors in 2029

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2024 01:10 PM (5fDan)

125 Happy Cinco de Mayo!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 01:10 PM (NpAcC)

126 I went to a Starbucks once

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 01:11 PM (fwDg9)

127 GMOs are not exactly in this category. But it seems a lot of those on "the right" think GMOs are deadly, or at least unhealthy. But the push for them is from the farmers ... because they work so well.

From a "chemicals are bad" perspective, GMOs have also replaced a lot worse chemicals. Allegedly Monsanto has paid out some rather large settlements to those "harmed", but I have seen no real evidence of harm.

Mother Jones say 11ppm residue has been found ... not sure if that is high, but I'm sure I breathe more than most since I spray (without a cab) it on my few acres 2-3 times a year, for about 20 years. I get the concentrate on my hands too. No signs of harm ... so far.

But since 90% of corn and soybeans are GMO, it is thrust on the public despite a lot of public "outcry".

Posted by: illiniwek at May 05, 2024 01:11 PM (Cus5s)

128 Casey Affleck is mayor of Dunkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvNhxKJJyU

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:11 PM (/7KEl)

129 Oh crap, and not making burritos today
I am so ashamed

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 01:11 PM (fwDg9)

130 109 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper May 4
NEW: Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘black book’ with 221 additional high-profile names is being sold to a secret bidder - NY Post
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:05 PM (UfUdn)

Our betters are scum.

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 01:12 PM (8I4hW)

131 When fake meat goes on sale in our local grocery stores, it's still not as inexpensive as when real meat goes on sale. I got a pound of beef and pork meatballs for $3.50, compared to a smaller package of veggie balls for $6.50.

Not to mention meat substitutes are highly-processes and engineered foods...

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 05, 2024 01:12 PM (8e/Fn)

132 Starbucks is to coffee what trans are to women.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2024 01:12 PM (LkLld)

133 In the NC Tech Triangle now. Lots of Teslas, and they all drive like assholes. Plenty of Maskies still, also.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 05, 2024 01:12 PM (7leMO)

134 I went to a Starbucks once
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 01:11 PM (fwDg9)
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The only time I went into a Starbucks was because I needed a place to wait while my car had a transmission inspection. I bought a cup of tea and played Total War on my laptop.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:13 PM (Be/+i)

135 In fact, the Junta has created its own dilemma:

(1) Force an Obvious Steal and then roll the Consequences Die, or (2) Fold and then roll the other Consequences Die.

One of the Die faces for #1 is Total Urban Societal Breakdown and Snake Plissen.

#2 has Huge Downticket Losses.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 01:14 PM (Gse2f)

136 126 I went to a Starbucks once
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 01:11 PM (fwDg90

Me too. I ordered a coffee, and they look at me as if I was an alien.

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 01:14 PM (8I4hW)

137 83 Lesbian Studies degrees from 3rd tier colleges?

Is an Ivy League lesbian studies degree that much better than your average state university?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 05, 2024 12:52 PM (noPDf)
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Well the ivy lesbos are uglier.

Posted by: Ciampino - and or no toilet paper at May 05, 2024 01:14 PM (qfLjt)

138 or were, which ever works.

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 01:15 PM (8I4hW)

139 Fake meat sakes tanking, EV sales tanking , windmill projects being cancelled, solar power being shown as unreliable, bad marketing decisions from every company. It's as if there is a top down conspiracy to show capitalism sucks by selling shitty products. My tin foil hat needs an upgrade

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 05, 2024 01:16 PM (5S+sK)

140 I work with a vegan RN. It was probably the second thing I learned about him after his name. Oh and that he's gay.

Anyway, he brings his fake meat and fake cheese food to work for us to try (under duress).

Two bites and my gut hurts from the over processed fake crap. The mouth feel and flavor aren't horrid. But my gut knows it is not natural.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Prolly "Bottom Diet".
Its "Top" is prolly eating steak and pizza.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 01:16 PM (cOq4q)

141 'Impossible' meat contains methylcellulose, which is also used in laxatives and crayons

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:16 PM (/7KEl)

142 I assume the Dems have some sort of algorithm which says "we can push the cheating so far, but no farther, or there will be riots in the street".
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 12:22 PM (CsUN+)

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I predict they'll dial it up to eleven.

You see, most blokes, you know, will be cheating at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your cheat. Where can you go from there? Where?

Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at May 05, 2024 01:17 PM (bo7UB)

143 I knew Starbucks was f***ed when I discovered their smallest paper cup is called 'large'

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:18 PM (/7KEl)

144 'Impossible' meat contains methylcellulose, which is also used in laxatives and crayons
Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:16 PM (/7KEl)
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I was considering doing a "they can draw with their poop" joke, but I'm thinking that they can probably already do that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:19 PM (Be/+i)

145 143 I knew Starbucks was f***ed when I discovered their smallest paper cup is called 'large'
Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:18 PM (/7KEl)

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They stole that from Big Olive.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 05, 2024 01:20 PM (bo7UB)

146 IMO, Trump will get more Turnout from his trials than he'll lose.

Only one new development in the trial can hurt Trump and that's Karen McDougal's testimony. It may help him with some. Hubba Hubba

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 01:20 PM (Gse2f)

147 'Impossible' meat contains methylcellulose, which is also used in laxatives and crayons
Posted by: Don Black

*******

That might explain the mauve and chartreuse streaks and bulky consistency I noticed this morning.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 01:21 PM (l4B/J)

148 He added there was “no threat or public safety implications”.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)

There wasn't after the driver headed to ambient temperature and the last hubcap stopped rattling against the pavement.

Before then? A highly elevated threat.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 01:21 PM (cOq4q)

149 Fake meat sakes tanking, EV sales tanking , windmill projects being cancelled, solar power being shown as unreliable, bad marketing decisions from every company. It's as if there is a top down conspiracy to show capitalism sucks by selling shitty products. My tin foil hat needs an upgrade
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 05, 2024 01:16 PM (5S+sK)

Lots of idiots in my AO put those solar panels on the roofs of their hovels to get sweet, sweet tax breaks and free shit from Uncle Shugga. Word on the street is no bueno for insurance renewals, as rates are tripling and quadroopling.

I point and laugh.

Idiots.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 01:21 PM (R/m4+)

150 In my locale there are Dutch Bros coffee stores popping up, and the cars line up there too

I think the logo on your cuppa to-go is meant to be sort of a social signal

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:23 PM (/7KEl)

151 97
They're going to forcibly relocate people to cities.

There is historical precedence. These are very real communists and they're almost done making suggestions.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (R4MCD)
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Ngorongoro Conservation Area (NCA)

On January 18, the government announced that it will change the legal status of the NCA and no longer permit any human settlement.

https://tinyurl.com/yheyyu35

Posted by: Ciampino - and or no toilet paper? at May 05, 2024 01:23 PM (qfLjt)

152 I always refuse vegan food with a polite: "Sorry, but there are assholes starving in Portland."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 05, 2024 01:23 PM (7leMO)

153 has anyone here ever sampled some cheat meat?

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:24 PM (/7KEl)

154
Remember when processed Frankenfoods were considered the worst thing in the universe?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:24 PM (MoZTd)

155 That might explain the mauve and chartreuse streaks and bulky consistency I noticed this morning.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 01:21 PM (l4B/J)

Did you siena other colors?

Posted by: Mr Crayola at May 05, 2024 01:24 PM (R4t5M)

156 I knew Starbucks was f***ed when I discovered their smallest paper cup is called 'large'
Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:18 PM (/7KEl)

I knew they were fucked when I rode the Thunder Bucket with sparks shooting outta my ass.

They coffee is not fit for human consumption.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (R/m4+)

157 Chicago Teachers Union’s $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, and migrant accommodations — at $2K per migrant

tinyurl.com/599hbsb5

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (NpAcC)

158 Remember when processed Frankenfoods were considered the worst thing in the universe?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:24 PM (MoZTd)
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That was the pravda from three years ago, comrade1

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (Be/+i)

159 John Sailer @JohnDSailer 2h
NEW: MIT has banned the use of DEI statements for faculty hiring and promotions.

This is huge, a turning point — the policy, functionally an ideological weed-out tool, is widely unpopular in academia, but MIT is the first elite private institution to pull the plug.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:26 PM (UfUdn)

160 Fewer lanes will reduce traffic



Zero lanes will reduce traffic by 100%. Problem solved. No more traffic.

Posted by: Montec at May 05, 2024 01:27 PM (DXvEo)

161 Zero lanes will reduce traffic by 100%. Problem solved. No more traffic.
Posted by: Montec at May 05, 2024 01:27 PM (DXvEo)
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If you don't build it, they won't come?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:27 PM (Be/+i)

162
They coffee is not fit for human consumption.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (R/m4+)

_________

Buc-ee's $1.50 large coffee >>>>> SBX $5.00 large cup of burnt acorns

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:27 PM (MoZTd)

163 Saying “vegetarian” meat (erc) is just TOO HARD. Hence stupid terms like “plant-based” which only shows how dumbed down society is.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 05, 2024 01:29 PM (e0dkU)

164 But the push for them is from the farmers ... because they work so well.

It’s not pushed hard enough. I want to see GMO-based products tell me all the benefits of having been modified. Instead, they almost always hide even the fact of GMO to the best of their ability, relegating it to the fine print as if they’re ashamed of it.

I collect old cookbooks. Every technological advancement in food production used to be a selling point, no matter how weird. Advertisers would search out the Thing That Makes This Product Different and make it front and center on the ads for that brand.

Engineering is not a dirty word outside of the elite. I want to see “Engineered for Better Health” and then a description of how it’s done and what the benefits are to me in the advertising and on the product.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 01:29 PM (EXyHK)

165 Did you siena other colors?

*********

It seemed like at least vermillion!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 01:30 PM (l4B/J)

166 No roads = no traffic.

That's geometric logic there!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 05, 2024 01:30 PM (7leMO)

167 @ 71 I just bought a 3d printer.
___________________________

Did 2d not give enough resolution ... ?

Posted by: Dr_No at May 05, 2024 01:30 PM (ayRl+)

168 Thanks... I think.
Michael Shermer @michaelshermer 5h [Publisher Skeptic Magazine]
You all know I'm not a Trump supporter, but I don't get the argument that if he's re-elected it will be the end of our democracy. How would he do that, exactly?
Trump doesn't control SCOTUS (they refused to hear his case about the 2020 election)
Trump doesn't control state/county courts (he lost 60 cases over the 2020 election, many Republican judges he appointed)
Trump doesn't have the military to back him if he loses in 2024, or if he wins and refuses to leave the White House in 2029
Trump doesn't control voting precincts (even Republican-run ones declined to overturn 2020 results)
Trump's own loyal VP Mike Pence refused his demands over the 2020 electoral college count
I can imagine riots with MAGA extremists and their guns causing regional violence, but wouldn't police, the national guard, or the military put those down as they always have historically?
As bad as Jan. 6 was, Trump left and we had a peaceful transfer of power as usual.
Retort: "Next time will be different!"
How, exactly?

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:30 PM (UfUdn)

169 157 Chicago Teachers Union’s $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, and migrant accommodations — at $2K per migrant

tinyurl.com/599hbsb5
Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (NpAcC)

They should also demand the immediate arrest and imprisonment of all CBP agents in Chicago. IF they are intellectually consistent.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 05, 2024 01:31 PM (e0dkU)

170 I was going to post the ingredients for plant-based brats (tl, dr) suffice it to say they are made of PEAS. Peas dressed up with all sorts of crap added so you can pretend it's really meat.

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:31 PM (/7KEl)

171
Millions who actually voted for Biden last time will at least stay home this time, as they've woken up that Biden & Co are an existential threat to their prosperity and safety.

That sounds a lot like the "red wave" talk of 2022.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 01:32 PM (63Dwl)

172 Trump's own loyal VP Mike Pence refused his demands over the 2020 electoral college count
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What alternate universe does he hail from?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:32 PM (Be/+i)

173 I can imagine riots with MAGA extremists and their guns causing regional violence, but wouldn't police, the national guard, or the military put those down as they always have historically

Good one MAGA extremists ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 05, 2024 01:32 PM (Akjoo)

174 And a bit of turdquoise...

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 01:32 PM (l4B/J)

175 Remember when processed Frankenfoods were considered the worst thing in the universe?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:24 PM (MoZTd)
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There are no permanent principles for the left. Everything is situational. I know a woman who was really into that stuff, and I kept pointing out that instead of eating some weird factor-made facsimile of meat, she could just eat actual meat that came from a local farm.

After half-hearted resistance, she actually came around, in part because the meat was actually cheaper.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:33 PM (llXky)

176 GOP Governor Declares War on Lab-Grown Meat, Signs Law Making Distribution, Sale, Manufacture Illegal.

That would be The Meatball.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 01:34 PM (cOq4q)

177 Wall Street Apes @WallStreetApes 3h
NEW: Georgia State Rep Mesha Mainor Suing DA Fani Willis

“We're starting to see, there's a pattern of corruption within the district attorney's office”

Proven falsified evidence out of DA Fani Willis office

“Tried to get my son to take a 20-year plea deal by falsifying evidence.”

“I'm the father of Casey Watley who's been incarcerated in Fulton County Jail for five years now. And as we're starting to see, there's a pattern of corruption within the district attorney's office. My son, like I say, has been incarcerated five years.

The attorney he had was a current, a prior district attorney who had worked with Fannie Willis previously.

They came back and stated that they found evidence in my son's case after there was no evidence. They came back and said they found evidence and they had found fingerprints. Well, it came to find out in court that that was a lie. They said a second testing had been done and my son's fingerprints were found on the scene and that was a lie.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:34 PM (UfUdn)

178 Wall Street Apes @WallStreetApes 3h
The attorney, Darryl Korn, tried to get my son to take a 20-year plea deal by falsifying evidence.

And as you can see, corruption is just running rampant within Fulton County Jail.

It's time for something to be done, man. We gotta do something. Y'all allowing these kids to be locked up, knowing that lady is corrupt. She spent the money that was meant to help the kids, and then she re-coded.

She re-coded all the young people, after she spent the money that was meant to help them to create a safe environment for them not to have to be out here in these gangs. Now let's ask her what she did with that money.

It's time to do something to clean up Fullerton County. We're not talking about tomorrow. We need to start today. You got over 800 people in that jail who shouldn't be there. Haven't been indicted. They won't take them to trial. How is that justice? And you know what the crazy thing is? Fulton County, sit back and watch it.”

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:35 PM (UfUdn)

179 164: people turn stupid when it comes to food. I had some woman insisting to me that Cheezit crackers are not meant for human consumption because it is “processed”. Yeah, its based on wheat, one of the great staples, but we can’t eat it.

Every morsel you eat and ever will eat is GMO and has been for 6000 or so years. But this is the outcome of people who see food and turn stupid, or take thousands of years of ag advances for granted.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 05, 2024 01:35 PM (e0dkU)

180 That sounds a lot like the "red wave" talk of 2022.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 01:32 PM (63Dwl)
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Meh, abortion was something that people didn't count on. Michigan got swept blue because the University of Michigan Health System said that without unfettered abortion (which was on the ballot), they would shut down their OBGYN clinic. Hard to overcome that. I guess there were shenanigans elsewhere, as usual.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:36 PM (llXky)

181 at my grocer, a 12oz package of fake meat is $9

a pound of Kroger 93/7 ground beef is on sale, $4.49

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:37 PM (/7KEl)

182
What I wonder about is strawberries and tomatoes. I think supermarket chains get some kind of fast-growing, prematurely-picked, artificially-ripened cultivars which are notable for having no flavor whatsoever.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:38 PM (MoZTd)

183 A simple explanation of our economy over the last fifty years is that advances in technology and global supply chain outsourcing have made making things much more efficient, which should have lowered prices substantially for all sorts of things, but this deflationary benefit was eaten up by growth in government (5 to 20% of jobs), bloated big company payrolls, and government handouts.
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I'll take one issue with you. Large corporations shed jobs, once they hit a certain level they will do nothing but shed jobs, because they are more worried about squeezing costs and milking the stock price than continuing to innovate and work on what made them big in the first place. Jobs are created in mid size and smaller, and especially in new ventures as they grow people as their business takes off. If any large size business comes out for a government regulation, it is because they know that reg will protect them from more nimble and hungry smaller firms.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 05, 2024 01:38 PM (UVyKP)

184 Because that makes perfect sense i think it was more likely ballot flood

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 01:39 PM (PXvVL)

185 a 3lb tray of 93/7 ground beef is on sale thru Tuesday, $11.97

I always get one when they do this sale, which is fairly often

I have 1lb bricks of meat in my freezer
I'm building a wall

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:40 PM (/7KEl)

186 You don't like electric cars.... fine, busses and trains it is
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
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Hold it...not so fast. 2018:
www.ashevillenc.gov › news › asheville-to-purchaseCity of Asheville to purchase zero-emission, electric transit ...
Jan 10, 2018 · This grant, combined with others intended for transit capital purchase, blah, blah..

Fast forward to 2024:
wlos.com › news › alexaMulti-million-dollar loss for Asheville as flawed electric ...
Jan 18, 2024 · ASHEVILLE, N.C. (WLOS) — The city of Asheville's purchase of five electric buses in 2018 has turned into a multi-million-dollar loss. The buses have been broken or unable to run because...blah,blah

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 01:41 PM (XeU6L)

187 I'll take one issue with you. Large corporations shed jobs, once they hit a certain level they will do nothing but shed jobs, because they are more worried about squeezing costs and milking the stock price than continuing to innovate and work on what made them big in the first place. Jobs are created in mid size and smaller, and especially in new ventures as they grow people as their business takes off. If any large size business comes out for a government regulation, it is because they know that reg will protect them from more nimble and hungry smaller firms.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 05, 2024 01:38 PM (UVyKP)
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Yes, and wage hikes do not cause inflation, they are symptoms of inflation.

Inflation is a money supply issue. Full stop. If you reduce the money supply - or hold it constant - no inflation. Look at wage growth and living standards under the gold standard. Prices were remarkably stable, but people got indoor plumbing, eletcticity, radio, cars, etc.

Decouple from gold and prices have what, quadrupled in the last 50 years?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:41 PM (llXky)

188 What I wonder about is strawberries and tomatoes… notable for having no flavor whatsoever.

A lot of this is merely because they’re kept cold before and after purchase. I’m not going to argue that supermarket strawberries and tomatoes are as good as the home-grown ones from my mom’s garden. But their flavor does improve dramatically when brought to room temperature before eating.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 01:41 PM (EXyHK)

189 157 Chicago Teachers Union’s $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, and migrant accommodations — at $2K per migrant

tinyurl.com/599hbsb5

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (NpAcC)


News from the future:

05 November 2028, Chicago, IL
Yesterday Chicago voters overwhelmingly approved a huge change to the City's Charter, replacing the current City government with the Board of the Chicago Teachers Union (CTA). Voter turnout was low, due to teachers blocking access to almost all polling locations, but the change was approved by 98 percent of voters who went to the polls. CTA President, and soon-to-be Mayor in all but title, Stacy Davis Gates, hailed this as a change for the better for the City due to CTA's stellar performance running Chicago's Public Schools for the past 50 years. She denies rumors that all taxes in the City of Chicago will immediately be raised 250 percent by the incoming CTA-City Government.

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2024 01:42 PM (5fDan)

190 "During 2010–2022, nonmetropolitan counties had higher percentages of preventable premature deaths from the five leading causes of death than did metropolitan counties nationwide..."


https://is.gd/NrDAqR
Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:53 PM (l4B/J)
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After the money men gutted the factories from flyover country and sent all the work to China while they got rich. When your life gets completely disrupted, and then as you are just starting to climb out of it, Covid comes and smacks you right back down while the rich get richer. The top 10 leaders of the CDC should be required to resign and go slop pigs for a living. It will at least be honest work.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 05, 2024 01:42 PM (UVyKP)

191 My last job before retiring was in transportation

when came time to buy some earth friendly buses, electric was passed over for propane

somebody made the right call

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:43 PM (/7KEl)

192 189 157 Chicago Teachers Union’s $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, and migrant accommodations — at $2K per migrant

Abortion ? I'd like a post-birth abortion for most of them

Posted by: It's me donna at May 05, 2024 01:43 PM (Akjoo)

193 I think supermarket chains get some kind of fast-growing, prematurely-picked, artificially-ripened cultivars which are notable for having no flavor whatsoever.
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The growers have focused on tomatoes that endure automated harvesting and long storage times. Flavor and texture are way down the priority list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 01:44 PM (XeU6L)

194 "Every morsel you eat and ever will eat is GMO and has been for 6000 or so years."

Yes, but the new bioengineered stuff is not the same as selective breeding. The GMO stuff can be safer, imo, but I don't really comprehend all that gene splicing stuff very well.

The soybeans I'm planting this year can be sprayed with RoundUp, 2-4D, and another chemical (gluflosinate) for the old Liberty Link seeds. Supposedly using different sprays prevents breeding resistance.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 05, 2024 01:44 PM (Cus5s)

195 The dogs won't eat it.

Posted by: Plant-Based Dogfood at May 05, 2024 01:45 PM (oRSuE)

196 It's probably already been mentioned, but one of the funniest photos during the COVID lockdown/intentional shortages was the empty shelves of the grocery stores.

Except someone took a photo of the fake meat section, too.

It was slam full.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:45 PM (3fSZZ)

197 The growers have focused on tomatoes that endure automated harvesting and long storage times. Flavor and texture are way down the priority list.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 01:44 PM (XeU6L)
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Well, if you understand that until 20 minutes ago, all human history was a struggle for sufficient calories, it's not an unreasonable tradeoff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:45 PM (llXky)

198 Riddle me this Batman.

If vegans are vegan because of their religious belief in not using animal products, why do they push fake meat? Why call it "meat" at all. Call it bean/lentil patties. Or portabella mushroom burgers. Or nut processed soy slices. Call it what it is.

Like men insisting they can be women. A lentil bean Patty will never be a hamburger.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 01:46 PM (yHibv)

199 141 'Impossible' meat contains methylcellulose, which is also used in laxatives and crayons

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:16 PM (/7KEl)
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Those comparisons rile me up. Many things have multiple uses. 1. Do you like your steel kitchen knife? Did you know steel is used to make bomb casings?
2. polyethyleneglycol is used to clean your gut before colonoscopy and in OTC laxatives. Also used in gas chromatography and inks. Made from petroleum (yep, just like gasoline).

Posted by: Ciampino - If you take PEG you'll need TP at May 05, 2024 01:46 PM (qfLjt)

200 >Except someone took a photo of the fake meat section, too.

It was slam full.

Posted by: Moron Robbie


I wonder how much of that crap stores end up tossing every week

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:47 PM (/7KEl)

201
I'll be happy to eat meat-based plants, though.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:47 PM (MoZTd)

202 It's probably already been mentioned, but one of the funniest photos during the COVID lockdown/intentional shortages was the empty shelves of the grocery stores.

Except someone took a photo of the fake meat section, too.

It was slam full.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:45 PM (3fSZZ)
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That stuff is nasty, man.

Posted by: Cannibal Haitian gangster at May 05, 2024 01:47 PM (llXky)

203 >Posted by: Ciampino - If you take PEG you'll need TP at May 05, 2024 01:46 PM (qfLjt)


oh man did I upset you
would you like a tissue

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 01:47 PM (/7KEl)

204 If vegans are vegan because of their religious belief in not using animal products, why do they push fake meat?
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And does the desire to eat animal products in the guise of fake meat still leave a stain on their soul?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:48 PM (Be/+i)

205 If vegans are vegan because of their religious belief in not using animal products, why do they push fake meat? Why call it "meat" at all. Call it bean/lentil patties. Or portabella mushroom burgers. Or nut processed soy slices. Call it what it is.

Like men insisting they can be women. A lentil bean Patty will never be a hamburger.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 01:46 PM (yHibv)

This bugs me too.. If meat is so abhorrent why call your vegan substitutes meat names...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 05, 2024 01:49 PM (Akjoo)

206 A nice portabella mushroom sauteed in butter and garlic is delish.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:50 PM (Be/+i)

207 at my grocer, a 12oz package of fake meat is $9

a pound of Kroger 93/7 ground beef is on sale, $4.49

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We watched a cooking show recently where the hispanic host was discussing and preparing jackroot (IIRC). The big appeal is that if it's cooked a certain way the texture is very similar to pulled pork, and with the right hispanic seasonings and other stuffings you can make vegetarian tacos that can easily pass as pork.

I pointed out to my wife that I would try that but I bet if you could find the jackroot in a grocery store it would be at or near the price of the pork, so unless it's a religious or health issue, why would I spend the extra money?

See also: Wait, why am I paying more for recycled goods?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:51 PM (3fSZZ)

208 Even when the grocery store was out of meat the areas for fake meat were fully stocked...because few people want to buy that crap.

I assume the grocery stores are being paid by Uncle Sugar (indirectly) to carry that stuff.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2024 01:51 PM (ibTVg)

209 And does the desire to eat animal products in the guise of fake meat still leave a stain on their soul?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:48 PM (Be/+i)
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I think the answer is twofold. Yes, they like meat, and deep down don't want to give it up.

But because the things look like meat, they can use that as excuse to lecture you on what it actually and why they are better than you.

"This is actually vegan," is a better lead-in that pointing to a bunch of greens and saying they're greens. "No kidding," will be the obvious resonse.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:51 PM (llXky)

210 Like 10mm enthusiasts, vegan have to tell you all about their thing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:52 PM (llXky)

211 Vegan became a trend because the cool young people realized that 80% or so of elderly folks are mainly vegetarian, and that meant vegetarianism wasn't cool.

"Vegan" stepped in to fill the "I'm cool, not like those old people at your church" void. Even though they're pretty much exact the same except for the self-imposed silliness like not eating anything that touched X or Y.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:53 PM (3fSZZ)

212
Like 10mm enthusiasts, vegan have to tell you all about their thing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:52 PM (llXky)

__________

Vegan crossfit who's a militant atheist and went to Harvard.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:53 PM (MoZTd)

213 No shit??

End Wokeness @EndWokeness 4h
It took 410 days to build the Empire State Building in 1931.
It took 540+ days to build 1 toilet in San Francisco in 2024.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:54 PM (UfUdn)

214 Imagine protesting Israel and discovering a 1980s Southern Living cookbook entirely about your food lifestyle.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:54 PM (3fSZZ)

215 I assume the grocery stores are being paid by Uncle Sugar (indirectly) to carry that stuff.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2024 01:51 PM (ibTVg)
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My understanding is that shelf space is a very contentious thing, a subject of constant negotiation. It is likely that the mega-corp that owns the vegan stuff owns other stuff, and requires both to be carried in a certain way.

Part of the pain for Bud Light was that the boycott hit during the period where shelf space is allocated, and once you lose that, it's hard to get it back.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:54 PM (llXky)

216 It's probably already been mentioned, but one of the funniest photos during the COVID lockdown/intentional shortages was the empty shelves of the grocery stores.

Except someone took a photo of the fake meat section, too.

It was slam full.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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People would rather go hungry than eat that shit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 01:54 PM (cOq4q)

217 End Wokeness @EndWokeness 5h
Endowments owned by top universities:

Harvard: $50.8 billion
Princeton: $34 billion
Brown: $6.6 billion
Cornell: $10 billion
UPenn: $21 billion
Yale: $40.7 billion

Why the heII are U.S. taxpayers giving these institutions billions every year?

Let them pay for their own shlit.
Let them cancel student debt.

Albert Latham @albert1776 5h
And they're tax exempt, folks.
Tax the endowments at corporate rates.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:56 PM (UfUdn)

218 If vegans are vegan because of their religious belief in not using animal products, why do they push fake meat?

Precisely because it is a religion. If it was just a preference on their part, they would call them bean burgers and lentil burgers and portobello mushroom burgers. And then they would make better bean burgers, lentil burgers, and portobello mushroom burgers that work from the fact that they’re made of beans, lentils, or mushrooms. I’ve had some great bean burgers and mushroom burgers—but only at places that aren’t trying to fake meat (ironically, usually at religious-run places run by strange Indian cults).

But because being vegan is their religion rather than some side effect of their religion, they need to spread it. And for that, they need to proselytize the wonderful superior meat that whatever their substitute can make. And when that fails for the obvious reason, a jihad to force you to eat it is next on the menu.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 01:57 PM (EXyHK)

219
People would rather go hungry than eat that shit.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 01:54 PM (cOq4q)

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I'd live on a diet of pasta, rice, lentils and cream of mushroom soup before I'd eat fake meat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:57 PM (MoZTd)

220 Endowments owned by top universities:

Harvard: $50.8 billion
Princeton: $34 billion
Brown: $6.6 billion
Cornell: $10 billion
UPenn: $21 billion
Yale: $40.7 billion

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Howard
Spelman
Morehouse

B*TCH I KNOW YOU AIN'T AXING ABOUT MY MONEYS

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:58 PM (3fSZZ)

221 We watched a cooking show recently where the hispanic host was discussing and preparing jackroot (IIRC).

Jackfruit

Wifey tried jackfruit tacos once.
I tasted one told her if somebody told me it was pork I would think it went bad.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 01:59 PM (cOq4q)

222 Did Biden shit himself?? DOCTOR Jill doesn't seem to want to be near him...

End Wokeness @EndWokeness 7h
Yeah, that's definitely a Code Brown

Max @ActiveTake 18h
I've had 5 kids. I know wtf he's doing.

https://tinyurl.com/awcjspp9
6 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:59 PM (UfUdn)

223 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 01:57 PM (EXyHK)
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Trader Joe's had a product called Burger Champignon. We called them mushroom burgers. They were quite tasty and no one pretended that they were meat.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 01:59 PM (Be/+i)

224 211 Vegan became a trend because the cool young people realized that 80% or so of elderly folks are mainly vegetarian, and that meant vegetarianism wasn't cool.

"Vegan" stepped in to fill the "I'm cool, not like those old people at your church" void. Even though they're pretty much exact the same except for the self-imposed silliness like not eating anything that touched X or Y.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 01:53 PM (3fSZZ)

And it's more militant. If being dissatisfied and demanding is your thing, vegan is a godsend, because you're always going to have a complaint, as virtually nothing is vegan.

Veganism is the chicks with dicks of the culinary world. The appeal is very, very selective.

Posted by: Do Vegan Chicks Swallow? at May 05, 2024 01:59 PM (oRSuE)

225 Vegan crossfit who's a militant atheist and went to Harvard.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 01:53 PM (MoZTd)
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Owns five cats.

Speaking of which, when did pet stores become so gay? My elder cat needs special cat food that only pet stores carry, and so I got a membership at PetSmartLoveCo or something, and they have some sort of proprietary line of merch being sold by two gay dudes.

A promo sign near the entrance showed a half-head-shaved lesbian snuggling up to her kitty. Just so offputting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:59 PM (llXky)

226 157 Chicago Teachers Union’s $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, and migrant accommodations — at $2K per migrant

https://tinyurl.com/599hbsb5

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2024 01:25 PM (NpAcC)
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Those demands are farcical.

Posted by: Ciampino - If you take PEG you'll need a toilet at May 05, 2024 01:59 PM (qfLjt)

227 I do not recall who was asking about assistance for macular degeneration, but maybe this info can be helpful. Heard about a group called low vision specialists of MD and VA. Do not have experience with them.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at May 05, 2024 02:00 PM (zudum)

228 It's almost comical that these people thought they could push totalitarian top down controls onto what is still a consumer driven society. And they told themselves they could make it work with nothing but marketing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 05, 2024 02:00 PM (S6gqv)

229 I had some 'vegetarian' chorizo a while back. Made chorizo and eggs with it. It was surprisingly good. Still prefer the real thing, though that stuff would do in a pinch.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 02:00 PM (YRsIm)

230 Jackfruit

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Thanks.

Also thanks for the "like it went bad" remark, because I really enjoy cooking and would likely try it if I ever stumbled across it. I'm less likely to now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 02:00 PM (3fSZZ)

231 Yes, and wage hikes do not cause inflation, they are symptoms of inflation.

Inflation is a money supply issue. Full stop. If you reduce the money supply - or hold it constant - no inflation. Look at wage growth and living standards under the gold standard. Prices were remarkably stable, but people got indoor plumbing, eletcticity, radio, cars, etc.

Decouple from gold and prices have what, quadrupled in the last 50 years?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:41 PM (llXky)
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If wage hikes are tied to productivity improvements, the price pressure can be overcome. But any price or wage increase has the ability to become inflationary.

The gold standard was no better in stopping inflationary and deflationary periods within the US. The most stable run in inflation we had was from the period once Reagan broke stagflation until Biden became president. No gold standard. You could argue since gold restricted money creation, it was a choke on growth. Money supply must be based upon the productivity of the economy which issues it. FJB has destroyed our productivity, on top of scandalous overspending, which is why we have - in real terms - roughly 10% inflation.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 05, 2024 02:01 PM (UVyKP)

232 Eggs are a fantastic texture/flavor substitute in a lot of dishes, but I guess the whole "these once touched a chicken" thing causes problems with insane people.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 02:01 PM (3fSZZ)

233 new post uploaded

Posted by: caf at May 05, 2024 02:02 PM (/+mVZ)

234 One business that’s apparently popular is on line ED drugs and hair restoration. For those that use those products do not buy from Hims.

The CEO has publicly supported the unhinged Hamas protesters and encouraged them to continue. He has offered jobs to those that have been effected by their protesting.

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 02:02 PM (MNhXM)

235 Trader Joe's had a product called Burger Champignon. We called them mushroom burgers. They were quite tasty and no one pretended that they were meat.

Trader Joe’s is an example of advertising the difference. They specifically go for an older style of advertising that encourages leaning in to whatever makes your product different. (I would point out that Trader Joe’s obviously calls them “mushroom burgers”, too.) I would expect any mushroom patty from them to be quite good.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (EXyHK)

236 {80} ... Anyway, he brings his fake meat and fake cheese food to work for us to try (under duress). ...

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:51 PM (WsTMd)


https://youtu.be/dXr-9rYnY08

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (O7YUW)

237 I'll say again that eggs are proof of God's existence. They are gifts directly from him.

They keep for months with no special effort, and are one of the only - maybe the only - foods that is close to 100% "efficient", meaning your body uses almost every bit of it for nutrition.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (3fSZZ)

238 End Wokeness @EndWokeness May 3
Alexander Wright, who had over 40 prior arrests, brutaIIy assauIted MTA worker Anthony Nelson.

The victim had to undergo 3 surgeries.

Bronx DA Darcel Clark just decided that instead of prosecuting the attacker in a criminal court… the case will be sent to "mental health court".

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 02:03 PM (UfUdn)

239 Capital H there, btw. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 02:04 PM (3fSZZ)

240 Trader Joe's had a product called Burger Champignon. We called them mushroom burgers. They were quite tasty and no one pretended that they were meat.

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And that's the key. I'll enjoy eating things for simply being tasty. Don't appeal to me otherwise.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 02:04 PM (3fSZZ)

241 The growers have focused on tomatoes that endure automated harvesting and long storage times. Flavor and texture are way down the priority list.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 01:44 PM (XeU6L)
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Well, if you understand that until 20 minutes ago, all human history was a struggle for sufficient calories, it's not an unreasonable tradeoff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:45 PM (llXky)
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True. Amazing how food scarcity was essentially eradicated for the first time ever. And the elite went all commie trying to tear it all down.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 05, 2024 02:04 PM (UVyKP)

242 Yes, and wage hikes do not cause inflation, they are symptoms of inflation.

I saw an infographic some leftwinger posted and it compared the increase in prices at all major fastfood companies over the last 10 years. They were all up 50-100% with most of the increase in the last 4. It also had the nominal inflation rate over the same time period which was 31%. The poster then complained about the greed of the fast food companies for raising prices higher then inflation.

And someone else posted the rather on point comment of, if prices all across this, and most sectors, are up much higher then the official inflation rate what makes you believe the official inflation rate is accurate?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2024 02:05 PM (ibTVg)

243 as above...
nood first world problems
chocolates

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 02:06 PM (UfUdn)

244 You can get jackfruit at asian markets.

Most just eat the fruity bits around the big white seeds.
The 'pork' is made from the fibers between the fruity parts.
Most people throw that out as eating it would be like eating an orange rind.

Easy to tell what the good edible parts are. Though pretty much the whole thing is 'edible'. Worth trying the fruity bits if you like exotic fruits.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2024 02:09 PM (cOq4q)

245 187
Decouple from gold and prices have what, quadrupled in the last 50 years?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:41 PM (llXky)
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In 1974 I purchased a brand new Mustang II for $3400.

Posted by: Ciampino - fertilizer for food at May 05, 2024 02:12 PM (qfLjt)

246 236 {80} ... Anyway, he brings his fake meat and fake cheese food to work for us to try (under duress). ...

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:51 PM (WsTMd)

https://youtu.be/dXr-9rYnY08
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant


Lol. Thank you. Parks and Rec was a funny show.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 02:16 PM (k3sRS)

247 ----
In 1974 I purchased a brand new Mustang II for $3400.

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What is an imitation Ford Pinto, Alex.

Posted by: Jeopardy at May 05, 2024 02:17 PM (dg+HA)

248 CDC thinks rural living is more hazardous to your health than city life
..

They're going to forcibly relocate people to cities.

There is historical precedence. These are very real communists and they're almost done making suggestions.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 05, 2024 12:59 PM (R4MCD)

They should send everyone out to the countryside to die. They want to kill us anyway.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:23 PM (w6EFb)

249 You put that milk on your mush and eat it-Bah!

Posted by: Bleak Hill Boarding Crone at May 05, 2024 02:27 PM (V5BDR)

250
Just read an article in a local free paper about a project to eliminate one of the two lanes (in both directions) of a major east-west street: " The --- Lane Reduction Study. . . to determine the impact of the lane reduction and how best repurpose that lane space to enhance the safety of all users.


The has been talk about reducing the number of lanes from four to two on the major artery that connects our neighborhood to the rest of this area.

For bicycle lanes. Of course.

We are anticipating (and participating) in major blowback if the matter comes to public hearings.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 05, 2024 02:28 PM (xG4kz)

251 socked off

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 02:28 PM (UfUdn)

252 One note. CORPORATIONS aren't pushing this nonsense. The executives at these corporations are doing it.

And they're doing it because of the 'contract' nonsense that's become the norm in corporate America.

The days of somebody working 30 years starting in the mailroom to become the CEO are over.

Now, they 'contract' them out for just a handful of years at at time, and they have zero loyalty to the corporation. Why would they? Sure, there are some performance incentives in their contracts, but by and large their personal pay is unaffected by the actual performance of the company they theoretically manage.

So these woke contract executives simply DO NOT CARE if the company makes money or not. They get their golden parachute and full contract money regardless of whether the company craters.

They push woke nonsense they know is going to cost the company huge amounts of money, but they don't care. They think its fine that the company they have no loyalty to loses money.

When you understand that, you understand why they engage in this nonsense.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 05, 2024 02:50 PM (setIA)

253 NEW: MIT has banned the use of DEI statements for faculty hiring and promotions.

This is huge, a turning point — the policy, functionally an ideological weed-out tool, is widely unpopular in academia, but MIT is the first elite private institution to pull the plug.


Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 05, 2024 01:26 PM

They are banning use of DEI statements. They are not banning DEI practices for hiring and promotions. Just like everything else with the Marxist left, they never stop their radical practices, they simply stop being open and explicit about them.

i.e. the NFL. They are just as radical now in support of Black-Lives-Matter radical, racist activist and terrorist organizations now as they were during 2020. But they just have stopped the kneeling and the explicit BLM promotion. Instead, they are "just" contributing billions of dollars to radical activist BLM organizations.

Same thing with James O'Keefe when he exposed ACORN over a decade ago. They didn't shut down ACORN, they simply rebranded it and kept going. Same thing with CRT in schools. They still teach it in every subject, they just don't have courses entitled CRT anymore.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 02:53 PM (P5BPp)

254 That sounds a lot like the "red wave" talk of 2022.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 01:32 PM
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Meh, abortion was something that people didn't count on. Michigan got swept blue because the University of Michigan Health System said that without unfettered abortion (which was on the ballot), they would shut down their OBGYN clinic. Hard to overcome that. I guess there were shenanigans elsewhere, as usual.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 01:36 PM

The Marxist left is using abortion to scare women in Michigan again this election cycle. I have seen plenty of ads running lately where they blame Trump through his SCOTUS appointments for women losing "abortion rights" and then warning that if he is elected again, he will ban abortion nationwide.

So yeah, they're still using the abortion issue to drive their base of stupid liberal women to the polls. And it will work yet again as it has been for years. Because that is pretty much all that liberal women care about. And younger women are even more liberal and pro-abortion than older generations.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 03:03 PM (P5BPp)

255 Jan 18, 2024 · ASHEVILLE, N.C. (WLOS) — The city of Asheville's purchase of five electric buses in 2018 has turned into a multi-million-dollar loss. The buses have been broken or unable to run because...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 01:41 PM

DTE - Helping schools across Michigan electrify their bus fleet

To date, DTE has helped nearly one dozen school districts secure over 100 all-electric school buses through the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) Clean School Bus Program.

[ . . . ]

With funding from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the EPA’s Clean School Bus Program provides $5 billion over five years (FY 2022-2026) to replace existing school buses with zero-emission and low-emission models. Under the Program's multiple grant and rebate funding opportunities to date, the EPA has awarded almost $2 billion to fund approximately 5,000 school bus replacements at over 600 schools.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 03:09 PM (P5BPp)

256 They've put out a suggestion for downtown and making some roads one way to ease congestion. IIRC they've been talking about this for a few years but no action yet.

I cut around the area of congestion, so I don't care.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 03:34 PM (w6EFb)

257 One note. CORPORATIONS aren't pushing this nonsense. The executives at these corporations are doing it.

And they're doing it because of the 'contract' nonsense that's become the norm in corporate America.

The days of somebody working 30 years starting in the mailroom to become the CEO are over.

Now, they 'contract' them out for just a handful of years at at time, and they have zero loyalty to the corporation. Why would they? Sure, there are some performance incentives in their contracts, but by and large their personal pay is unaffected by the actual performance of the company they theoretically manage.

So these woke contract executives simply DO NOT CARE if the company makes money or not. They get their golden parachute and full contract money regardless of whether the company craters.

They push woke nonsense they know is going to cost the company huge amounts of money, but they don't care. They think its fine that the company they have no loyalty to loses money.


Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 05, 2024 02:50 PM

And no doubt these contract CEOs are put in place by the WEF and George Soros, same way they are installing AGs and DAs and people in government.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 05, 2024 03:36 PM (P5BPp)

258 Please explain, with examples, why mRNA vaccines are a health crisis 'to happen.

Using mRNA as a delivery vehicle is perfectly safe.

Come on into the 21st century.

Posted by: James Lewis at May 05, 2024 08:28 PM (F4oAz)

Sunday Morning Book Thread - 05-05-2024 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]


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Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading (HT: Dash my lace wigs). Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...(Axeman's "pouncing pants")

So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?

PIC NOTE

This is another random internet photo. I like the futuristic science fiction aesthetic. It's how my library would look on my intergalactic starship.

WHERE DO STORY IDEAS COME FROM?



In the video above, the YouTuber attempts to provide a structure and framework for story idea generation. "Where do your ideas come from?" seems to be a very common question for popular authors. I'm sure Stephen King, Lee Child, Brandon Sanderson, etc., have heard that question a thousand times. The truth is that ideas for stories are all around us. They can be found just by observing our surroundings. In my own office, we used to joke about the off-the-wall conversations we'd somehow have. Many of them could serve as story fodder if I was so inclined to write them down.

"Ideation" is a concept used in design thinking to describe the process for generating ideas. At one presentation I attended recently, the speaker showed us several images on a slide and then asked us to pick two of them. We were then asked to generate a new idea based on those two images. You can take this same approach to generating story ideas. How could you combine two otherwise unrelated pictures into an awesome story?

Sometimes a story idea will be generated by a random writing sample. Supposedly, J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit was created when he was scribbling one day and the following popped out of his head:


"In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit."

The rest, as they say, is history.

Here at the AoSHQ, we are exposed to countless awesome stories from real life. any of them could easily be the seed of a story idea. Or take one story from the Morning Report, one story from the evening Cafe, and one story from the ONT. Then mix them up and see if you can create a NEW story idea just from those three individual story. Note that story ideas do NOT have to be good! For every decent story idea, you may have to go through 30-40 (or more) just plain awful ideas. However, if you write them all down, you may find a use for them later if something more interesting comes along.

For a challenge, look at last night's ONT picture or Friday's Cafe picture...How could you use one or the other (or both) in a story idea?

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WRITING TIPS FROM ERNEST HEMINGWAY



Ernest Hemingway is one of those authors that will most likely be "cancelled" sometime soon because he's not the "ideal" modern author, though I suppose he could be considered a quintessential American author in many ways. You don't have to like him--either as an author or as a person--but you can't deny he's an interesting character. Like a lot of successful authors, he's doled out tips and tricks for up and coming writers:


  1. Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence. -- Very hard to argue with this. If you pick a book at random off your shelves, you'll find that 9 times out of 10, this will likely be the case. For example, "The star was classified as an A7 on the Morgan-Keenan system, hotter and brighter than the G2-class star humans had evolved under" (A Night Without Stars by Peter F. Hamilton). This one sentence tells us we are not in the Solar System and that this story will most likely be science fiction. Another example: "Higher education institutions all claim to teach some form of critical thinking" (Teaching Change by José Antonio Bowen). Here we have a sentence that indicates the book may be about education and that is is nonfiction. The first sentence can have a real impact on your audience.

  2. Focus on details that create emotion. -- We humans are--at our core--very emotional creatures. Stories can and do touch us deeply on an emotional level. It's why we cry at the end of Old Yeller (movie or book). Stirring emotions through storytelling can change the course of history, raising and toppling empires. A history professor yesterday asked ChatGPT to write what life was like in 1824 America. He gives his students the same prompt. They have to describe--in depth and detail--what an imaginary version of themselves would be doing in America in 1824. AI tools cannot add in an emotional component to their descriptions. They come up with bland, uninteresting prose. However, we humans can describe the physical details--the sights, sounds, smells, taste of 1824 if we have even a remote exposure to outdoor life. The details that stir emotion *matter.*

  3. Write concisely. -- This is probably good advice for newer writers, but I think it also demonstrates Hemingway's biases from his previous occupation in journalism. Isaac Asimov also writes very concisely, probably because he was a *machine* when it came to writing and thus was focused more on output rather than dedicating hours and hours to improving the quality of his writing. Every writer will find their own balance between conciseness and verbosity. As a technical writer myself, I find myself having to really trim down my writing sometimes. I can be a bit verbose when I get carried away. This is also something I teach my students. Write MORE than you have to as it's easier to trim it out than add more.

  4. Build you vocabulary. -- Abso-frickin'-lutely! The best way to increase your vocabulary is to READ AND READ AND READ SOME MORE! Hemingway says if you need a dictionary, you are not a writer. You should instead read a dictionary cover-to-cover three times. Then maybe you can start writing. I think reading and encountering new words, then looking them up works better for me, because then I can see the new words in context so it makes sense.

  5. Stop writing when it's going well. -- I will disagree with Hemingway here. Most authors I think would encourage you continue writing, but maybe switching from writing on your novel to freewriting exercises. Part of the craft of writing is developing the discipline necessary to write an entire book. It takes dedication and practice. Now, if you have written some good stuff over the course of an hour or so, then it's probably time to take a short break, stretch, walk around, etc., so that you can keep your mind fresh when you sit back down to write. Don't try to crank out a novel over a weekend. It won't turn out well at all.

  6. Don't talk about it. -- This is another point on which I disagree with Hemingway. If you are new to the craft of writing stories you NEED feedback from other writers. No one wants to read a 400 page manuscript unless they are getting paid for it. However, friends and family will be happy to read a few pages at a time and provide feedback over the course of your novel. Or join a writers group, like the AoSHQ Writers Group sponsored by Moron OrangeEnt.

MORON RECOMMENDATIONS


I read Let Us Now Be Famous Men by Moron Author Len Nilinsky. The book was mentioned in an AoS comment that provided a download address, so I thought "why not?" This sci fi story is engaging and the main characters limited in number and very well developed. The story takes place on Terra (formerly known as Earth) and is a post-apocalyptic tale where the hero is a Veteran of the Black Ash, a nuclear war that destroyed most of the planet and the plant and animal species living on it. The vivid description of the ruin of present-day Terra is contrasted with museums showing, for example, the weather on pre-war Earth, including a rain shower in a green meadow. This was richly and emotionally described. The Vet is asked by the utopian government to help solve a robot problem on Luna (the moon) because no one else living has the requisite knowledge and experience. Well done and gripping story. (And this was my first e-book.)

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 28, 2024 09:17 AM (U3L4U)

Comment: Here is the link to the story in full: Let Us Now Be Famous Men

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Well, I finally did it and it's about time. I read The Screwtape Letters and Screwtape Proposes a Toast cover to cover. I've read bits here and there but never the whole thing. Lewis' writing, no matter the topic, is always a delight. The Screwtape Letters can be difficult at times because it is too prophetic and my blood pressure starts to rise.

I do wonder if Lewis was inspired by Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" (which is brilliant) when he used the approach he did in Screwtape.

Posted by: JTB at April 28, 2024 09:23 AM (zudum)

Comment: I've heard of The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis, of course, but I had never heard of the follow-up story Screwtape Proposes a Toast (available online for free HERE). If you are not familiar with The Screwtape Letters, it's an epistolary novel in which the devil Screwtape is providing instruction to a younger devil on how to tempt a man. Lewis presents Hell as a vast bureaucracy, with Screwtape being a sort of middle-management. This idea has been borrowed by numerous other authors, such as Roger Zelazny/Robert Sheckley (Bring Me the Head of Prince Charming) and Terry Pratchett/Neil Gaimon (Good Omens).

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I read Slack Tide, by RKF Adams, which is a Moron-written book that I've had in my kindle unlimited selections for about a year and just hadn't read yet.

It's in the Perfessor's Moron Library link.

A retired Marine whose passion is bonsai gets dragged into taking down a child slavery operation.

It was a good adventure, with a mostly satisfying conclusion (you can't save them all, so you save who you can). Needs some more editing for occasional grammar errors and typos, but not too much.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 28, 2024 09:52 AM (OX9vb)

Comment: I think it's great when Morons and Moronettes review Moron Authors' works. I've usually enjoyed them myself. However, a key point that cannot be stressed enough is the need for *intense* editing for grammatical and spelling mistakes. NOTHING destroys the immersive experience of reading quite like seeing painfully obvious errors in the text. So proofread, proofread, and proofread some more! Hire someone if you can afford it! (If not, then find some friendly experts or join a writers group where much of this can be addressed.)

More Moron-recommended reading material can be found HERE! (1000+ Moron-recommended books!)

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WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK:

After reviewing some of OregonMuse's old Book Threads, I thought I'd try something a bit different. Instead of just listing WHAT I'm reading, I'll include commentary as well. Unless otherwise specified, you can interpret this as an implied recommendation, though as always your mileage may vary.


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A Night Without Stars by Peter F. Hamilton

Hamilton's storytelling style is interesting. He often has stories within stories and mixes up genres. The last book, The Abyss Beyond Dreams, involved humans attempting to infiltrate the Void at the center of the galaxy. The local humans IN the Void attempted to stage a Marxist revolution (and succeeded, mostly) because of the corrupt government that was hiding key truths about the alien Fallers that are attacking the humans. In this book, Hamilton gives us more of a police procedural story as the human society on Bienvenidos has progressed from a late-19th century level of technology to mid-to-late 20th century. Now that the planet has escaped the Void, technological progress is possible and humans have a slight edge over the Fallers, even launching rockets and missiles at the Trees in space that are the source of Faller invasion. However, the Fallers have not been idle over the past couple of centuries and have developed new tricks for infiltrating and corrupting human society as they take it over from within.


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Neuromancer by William Gibson


This is part of my ongoing quest to read certain books prior to my milestone birthday later this summer. I always find it fascinating to read this kind of book because it seems so cliche at first. But this is one of those books that has spawned a hundred--if not a thousand--imitations over the decades since it was written. I believe Gibson is credited with coining the term "cyberspace" for the virtual, computer-generated world he created. It's also referred to as the "matrix" (sound familiar?). At first, I thought it would be very difficult to understand, but constant reading in the genre has made it fairly easy to understand the tech levels involved as well as the slang, which has been used by other authors as an homage to Gibson.

Verdict: Meh. It was OK, but not great. By the time I got to the end, I really didn't care about the characters or the story.

WHAT I'VE ACQUIRED THIS PAST WEEK:


  • Aquasilva Trilogy Book 3 - Crusade by Anselm Audley

  • The Wonderland Gambit Book 1 - The Cybernetic Walrus by Jack L. Chalker

  • The Wonderland Gambit Book 2 - The March Hare Network by Jack L. Chalker

  • The Wonderland Gambit Book 3 - The Hot-Wired Dodo by Jack L. Chalker

  • The Crimson Shadow Book 1 - The Sword of Bedwyr by R. A. Salvatore

  • The Crimson Shadow Book 2 - Luthien's Gamble by R. A. Salvatore

  • The Crimson Shadow Book 3 - The Crimson King by R. A. Salvatore

PREVIOUS SUNDAY MORNING BOOK THREAD - 04-28-24 (NOTE: Do NOT comment on old threads!)


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Disclaimer: No Morons were harmed in the making of this Sunday Morning Book Thread. Any deviations from the norm can be blamed on Pixy's new hamster farm.

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1 A heads up to anyone who may have been interested to try John Van Stry's new "Wolfhounds" series: The first book ("Stand Alone: Wolfhounds") goes on sale for $0.99 (Kindle format) from May 6th to May 12th.

An empire gets taken over by the forces of darkness in a "headshot coup", and one ship full of the Emperor's elite guard is missed by the bad guys. Their mission? Protect the Emperor and his family, and if that's not possible, then set things right, whatever it takes, no matter the cost.

Looking to see evil get its come-uppance and its arse kicked hard? Get this book. It's intended to be a five book series, two of which have been written and released, and knowing John's track record, he'll be working hard on getting book three out the door.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 08:59 AM (O7YUW)

2 My reading for last week was beta reading and offering suggestions for a short story on ALH.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 08:59 AM (0eaVi)

3 Hello, my fellow Librotarians!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 09:00 AM (FkUwd)

4 No reading for me this week.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 09:00 AM (ENQN6)

5 Booken morgen horden!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 05, 2024 09:00 AM (n/1xr)

6 Where do ideas come from? I'd say the Creator. I couldn't possibly come up with all my ideas on my own. Doesn't mean I can write them well enough for anyone to want to read them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 09:01 AM (0eaVi)

7 Tolle Lege.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 05, 2024 09:03 AM (PiwSw)

8 My library cat Allie decided to emerge from her place guarding my precious tomes and is now perched on my desk.

She says, "Hello!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 09:04 AM (BpYfr)

9 Racoons in the library: nature may be healing, but I'll bet those guys will make a mess of the books if given half a chance...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 05, 2024 09:04 AM (Lhaco)

10 The library picture looks like the old TV show, The Time Tunnel.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:05 AM (CsUN+)

11 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

Call me Ishmael.

Posted by: dantesed at May 05, 2024 09:05 AM (Oy/m2)

12 Good morning! The writing advice that I always use from Hemingway is simply: "Write drunk, edit sober."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:05 AM (llXky)

13 Norwegian murder mystery writer Jo Nesbø takes a stab at a Stephen King-style horror novel (I mean, I guess; I've never actually read a Stephen King novel) in "The Night House", in which snarly outcast teen Richard finds himself the sole witness to two inexplicably bizarre and gruesome deaths.

It's a novel-within-a-novel novel told by an unreliable narrator.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 09:06 AM (FkUwd)

14 A history professor yesterday asked ChatGPT to write what life was like in 1824 America. He gives his students the same prompt. They have to describe--in depth and detail--what an imaginary version of themselves would be doing in America in 1824.

Running the place, of course!

Posted by: Today's College Students at May 05, 2024 09:06 AM (0eaVi)

15 Give Allie her scritch-tithe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 09:06 AM (FkUwd)

16 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

Call me Ishmael.


It was a dark and stormy night.

Joe Biden sucks.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:07 AM (CsUN+)

17 Speaking of books, I wonder, wonder, wonder who, who wrote the book of love?

Posted by: The Monotones at May 05, 2024 09:07 AM (a3Q+t)

18 You "used to joke" about your zany workplace conversations.

Why did you quit?

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:08 AM (p/isN)

19 Hello, my fellow Librotarians!
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 09:00 AM (FkUwd)

Hiya Eris !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:09 AM (T4tVD)

20 Tolle Lege
Finished reading Mark Moyar's Triumph Regained om the Vietnam War 1965-68, a excellent recount.
Have been raving all my usual haunts on web and got a kick a reply
https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/reader recommended
https://tinyurl.com/4nh336hc

It covers well the US Government letting the North Vietnam use Laos and Cambodia as a safe haven, the disastrous for the North Vietnamese Tet Offensive but yet how the beginning of the Marxist lap dogs in the press saying it's the end of the US involvement because the North has the advantage. It ends at the end of the Johnson administration.
Can't wait for the planned 3rd volume

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:09 AM (fwDg9)

21 A few chapters into Shots Fired In Anger by John B. George.

Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2024 09:09 AM (cI6EH)

22 Hello, my fellow Librotarians! [/iu]

And assorted brohemian members of the broletariat.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:09 AM (CsUN+)

23 16 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

Call me Ishmael.

It was a dark and stormy night.

Joe Biden sucks.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:07 AM (CsUN+)


The shelves shook as a Vespa passed by and a single wisp of Ewok hair drifted downward toward the dirty floor...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM (PiwSw)

24 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.
----

"There once was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it."

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM (FkUwd)

25 Haven't started anything else new, did pull out one of my very old Vietnam books but didn't start it

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM (fwDg9)

26 As a futurist, Roger Zelazny hit the mark again with "Home Is the Hangman," the third and final story in "My Name Is Legion." In the mid-'70s, he addressed artificial intelligence. (I'm sure a lot of other SF writers did so before him, but I didn't read their books.)

The Hangman was an entity developed for indepedent space exploration. Four programmers "taught" it everything it knew. It went off into space but eventually began refusing orders. Goodbye.

But ...

The Hangman's spacecraft -- empty -- is found on Earth, close to where one of the former programmers has been beaten to desth. Did the Hangman conceive of killing?

Another of the four panics and hires the detective agency that employs our nameless investigator to find and stop the Hangman.

Zelazny went deep in this one. I don't think I understood everything he tried to say. Still, a good tale, which makes the book three-for-three. I recommend it.

(As far as real AI, I don't see the need for it. I decry the invention of spellcheck. And I'll stop before I begin ranting about autocorrect.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM (p/isN)

27 You "used to joke" about your zany workplace conversations.

Why did you quit?
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:08 AM (p/isN)

They became normal.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:11 AM (T4tVD)

28 I'm still working my way through A Family Guide to Spiritual Warfare by Kathleen Beckman. Its a pretty comprehensive work, including case studies and deliverance prayers should one need them.

Since 2020, I've become much more attuned to spiritual things, and while it gives me greater clarity on what is going on in the world, explaining it can be difficult, particularly to people who have shut themselves off from the very possibility of there being anything other than a secular, materialist world.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:11 AM (llXky)

29 the disastrous for the North Vietnamese Tet Offensive

There are those who argue it was a deliberate ploy by the North Vietnamese, who wanted an end to the indigenous Viet Cong, because they were an alternate power center and might get ideas. The NV were not particularly upset when they were annihilated.

If there's one thing commies can't stand, it's alternate power centers.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:12 AM (CsUN+)

30 However, a key point that cannot be stressed enough is the need for *intense* editing for grammatical and spelling mistakes. NOTHING destroys the immersive experience of reading quite like seeing painfully obvious errors in the text.

I definitely agree with that. I've read a couple of Moron or Moron adjacent authors who self-published, and found things in both. One had a font change in the middle of a chapter, and I've found spots with missing words, or mis-spelled words. It's jarring.

Posted by: Today's College Students at May 05, 2024 09:12 AM (0eaVi)

31 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that The Pants Guy doesn't own a weedwhacker.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:13 AM (T4tVD)

32 I definitely agree with that. I've read a couple of Moron or Moron adjacent authors who self-published, and found things in both. One had a font change in the middle of a chapter, and I've found spots with missing words, or mis-spelled words. It's jarring.
Posted by: Today's College Students at May 05, 2024 09:12 AM (0eaVi)


William Alan Webb, if you're lurking...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 05, 2024 09:14 AM (PiwSw)

33 Thanks for The Book Thread Perfessor !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:14 AM (T4tVD)

34 Oh, my! I just picked up "Neuromancer" at the thrift store.
Now I really want to read it.

In sad news, I am done with J.D. Robb. Just finished her next to last Dallas book, in which there were 5 (count 'em- five) gay couples. In one murder investigation which had nothing to do with LGBT, etc.
And one trannie victim.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 09:15 AM (IZjwR)

35 (As far as real AI, I don't see the need for it. I decry the invention of spellcheck. And I'll stop before I begin ranting about autocorrect.)
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM


Would you like some assistance with counseling?

Posted by: Clippy at May 05, 2024 09:15 AM (a3Q+t)

36 There are those who argue it was a deliberate ploy by the North Vietnamese, who wanted an end to the indigenous Viet Cong, because they were an alternate power center and might get ideas. The NV were not particularly upset when they were annihilated.

If there's one thing commies can't stand, it's alternate power centers.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:12 AM (CsUN+)
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Communists often set up win-win scenarios where they throw politically unreliable troops at an objective. If it is taken, yay, a victory! If not, well, you got rid of people you didn't like, so a victory.

See also the use of former Nationalist troops as "volunteers" in Korea. Shame that they took such heavy losses...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:17 AM (llXky)

37 Mark Moyar covers the peace talks, how the North Vietnamese wants a Viet Cong as a 4th party in negotiations, other 2 being South Vietnam and US, but both new it was a total power ploy as the Viet Cong were totally controlled by the North. Both books detail how the Viet Cong were basically the weak gorilla operations and how even very early the North was invading, which the press didn't want to know or let out.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:17 AM (fwDg9)

38 "There once was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it."
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM (FkUwd)

Oh, ouch. Poor Eustace. Makes one wonder how much one's name shapes his personality.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 09:17 AM (OX9vb)

39 I've not quite understood the construction "pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...." Does that mean if you're wearing those pants, then pants are not required? Or...? [scratches head]

Well, wouldn't want to have to modify the opening template and mess with tradition just 'cause I don't quite grok it.

G'morn, bookies.

Posted by: mindful webworker - rainy day at May 05, 2024 09:17 AM (OOnTd)

40 And I'll stop before I begin ranting about autocorrect.)
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:10 AM

What about bicyclecorrect ?

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:18 AM (T4tVD)

41 Slightly longer declarative sentence:
"Scarlett O'Hara was not beautiful, but men seldom realized it when caught by her charm, as the Tarleton twins were."

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 09:18 AM (IZjwR)

42 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 09:18 AM (zudum)

43 Oh, my! I just picked up "Neuromancer" at the thrift store.
Now I really want to read it.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 09:15 AM (IZjwR)
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Neuromancer is worth reading if only because you can see all of the influences it has had on popular culture. Both the Cyberpunk and Shadowrun RPGS were directly influenced by Neuromancer, as was The Matrix.

However, later authors took what Gibson created and refined it into much, much better stories, IMHO.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 09:18 AM (BpYfr)

44 This week I continued my Raconteur Press Anthology catch-up, going back and reading #13 ("Or All Will Burn" - stories about what ends parents will go to in order to protect their kids) which somehow I'd skipped over (oops). I didn't find the stories dark, but I'm a father of two girls (now adults) so the stories resonated with me.

I'm working on reading #18, the third in the "Spurgle" series about the ever incompetent and self-inflated Andrew Spurgle, "He Was Dead When I Got There".

Next up for me is #19 "Or All Will Burn: Fierce Love" (the second in that series.)

Most recently published anthologies by Raconteur Press are: #26 (Wyrd West) and #27 (Space Cowboys 5: Cattle Drive).

I'll get caught up eventually, no, really, I will! (Stop giving me "that look".) Okay, maybe it's just that I can be grateful that I'll always have something else to read. :-)

If your life leans more to brief times for relaxation and entertainment, these anthologies are a perfect fit.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 09:19 AM (O7YUW)

45 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

I just started 1984 two days ago.

“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.”

This is the first time I’ve read it knowing that most of the government-controlled rationing actually was still going on in 1948 when he wrote it. There really was a chocolate ration in Britain in 1948! (Confectionary rationing is a major reason that most if not all of the iconic Brit candy brands are owned by international conglomerates; most of that happened while the candy companies were forced to kneecap themselves.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 09:19 AM (EXyHK)

46 Just finished "Shogun," by James Clavell. What a magnificent book this is. The recent Hulu series was beautiful, well-written and perfectly-acted, but you really must read the book to understand the depth and wonder of the entire story.

It amazes me that Clavell was able to write what is easily the best book in English about Japan, after having suffered for 3 years in a Japanese POW camp in WW2. Talk about a therapeutic exercise in writing.

Now I shall continue with Clavell's "Asian Saga," which includes "Tai-Pan" (about the Founding of Hong Kong), "Gai-Jin" (adventures of HK's fictitious founder's Kids in Japan), "King Rat," a semi-autobiographical telling of Clavell's stay in Changi POW camp), "Noble House" (business intrigue in 1963 Hong Kong), and "Whirlwind" 1979 Iran action.

Clavell is such a great writer. Amazing.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:19 AM (/RHNq)

47 Few can top Donald Hamilton for opening sentences and paragraphs that keep you reading.

"I always feel guilty about smuggling a gun through Mexican customs."

I know I've mentioned this many times. I should go through the Matt Helm books for fresh examples. I also have other Hamilton books, yet unread. I'd bet their opening sentences are grabbers, too.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:19 AM (p/isN)

48 When my kids were little, I used I make up stories about
"when I worked in a *blank* factory".
The story would go off the rails and usually end up being fired.


Example:

That reminds me about when I used to work at the macaroni factory. I had a idea to make "Mega Macaroni". Huge macaroni the size of sewer pipes.

The story would go on from there and get more and more wacky until I was inevitably sacked.

Posted by: Guy who heard wrong at May 05, 2024 09:19 AM (CM7e9)

49 Hemingway's Writing Pro-Tips:

"Blow your head off AFTER you finish your masterpiece"

Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:20 AM (/RHNq)

50 Mark Moyar covers the peace talks, how the North Vietnamese wants a Viet Cong as a 4th party in negotiations, other 2 being South Vietnam and US, but both new it was a total power ploy as the Viet Cong were totally controlled by the North. Both books detail how the Viet Cong were basically the weak gorilla operations and how even very early the North was invading, which the press didn't want to know or let out.
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:17 AM (fwDg9)
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Does he get into the PRC's extensive support for the North? Until I started researching Walls of Men I had no idea that so many PLA troops were in Vietnam.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:20 AM (llXky)

51 I made some decisions this past week. Decisions I'm not necessarily proud of, which were based entirely on the question: "This comic is on sale for how much?"

The first decision: the "Luke Cage Omnibus" from Marvel. My luck with 70s comics has been spotty at best, and I'm not overly drawn to blacksploitation fiction, but the available on-line preview made the book look good, and I'm pretty sure it'll be different than the usual fare. But mostly someone on ebay was clearancing the book, as even with taxes and shipping I got a new copy for less than half of msrp.

The second decision was about "Berserk," the first deluxe edition. I'm not a huge manga guy, but everyone seems to praise this one as a masterpiece. Albeit a bleak, gory, grim-dark masterpiece, which will probably be glacially paced. But I saw this at Walmart. A leather-bound manga was on the shelf of the most mainstream of mainstream stores. And, again, it was on clearance at about 40% off. I had to encourage that kind of behavior.

Of course, I really should finish at least one of the other comic collections I'm currently reading before starting either of these....

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 05, 2024 09:21 AM (Lhaco)

52 Off wrong sock

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2024 09:21 AM (CM7e9)

53 I thought I'd read all of Jack L. Chalker's books, but the series Perfesser got this week is unfamiliar to me.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 05, 2024 09:21 AM (XjtdB)

54 Reading this week?

Irwin Shaw's last book, Acceptable Losses. Which ain't a bad read at all. Found a tidbit in it that the horde might appreciate. Lead character's a literary agent, and the retiring senior member of his firm gives him a manuscript to read, telling him it's the only one he ever wrote and that in his youth he'd tried to be a writer. He says: "I had read too much to believe what I put down was of any worth." I'd bet this explains why a lot of books never get written.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 09:22 AM (q3u5l)

55 I have a copy of 'Mere Christianity' around here somewhere but I haven't read it.

Perfessor, should I start with 'The Screwtape Letters'?

Posted by: dantesed at May 05, 2024 09:22 AM (Oy/m2)

56 Both books detail how the Viet Cong were basically the weak gorilla operations and how even very early the North was invading, which the press didn't want to know or let out.
Posted by: Skip at May

Everyone knows they were the orangutang operators.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:23 AM (T4tVD)

57 Currently reading in rotation:

Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson
The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson
A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K Le Guin
The Sword of the Lictor by Gene Wolfe


I had swapped out Warhammer novels with other gothic sci-fi by Gene Wolfe here, but Book of the New Sun series is more of a fantasy than sci-fi flavor. It is episodic, and the scope and scale of it seems a lot smaller.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 09:23 AM (lhenN)

58 Verb

Middle English reden "to counsel, order, decide, guide, govern, realize, grasp the meaning of

Germanic *rēdan- (whence also Old Frisian rēda "to advise, protect, help, plan, decide

Old High German rātan "to advise, deliberate, assist,

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 09:23 AM (ENQN6)

59 This 2 book so far series definitely upsets a lot of common perception of the war. North Vietnam played well between China and Russia to get what they needed. Playing one against the other.

Really can't recommend these enough

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:23 AM (fwDg9)

60 This is the first time I’ve read it knowing that most of the government-controlled rationing actually was still going on in 1948 when he wrote it. There really was a chocolate ration in Britain in 1948! (Confectionary rationing is a major reason that most if not all of the iconic Brit candy brands are owned by international conglomerates; most of that happened while the candy companies were forced to kneecap themselves.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 09:19 AM (EXyHK)
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The Labour government believed it could bring Britain properity based on abundant coal and fisheries and ended up with shortage of both.

Most people knew Churchill was driven from office in 1945, but he actually was returned after Labour screwed everything up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:24 AM (llXky)

61 I've not quite understood the construction "pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...." Does that mean if you're wearing those pants, then pants are not required? Or...? [scratches head]
Posted by: mindful webworker - rainy day at May 05, 2024 09:17 AM


You might consider going over and sitting next to All Hail Eris, who is often pantsless in blatant defiance of this very stricture.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 09:24 AM (a3Q+t)

62 I have a copy of 'Mere Christianity' around here somewhere but I haven't read it.

Perfessor, should I start with 'The Screwtape Letters'?
Posted by: dantesed at May 05, 2024 09:22 AM (Oy/m2)
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That's entirely up to you. There's no "wrong" reading order. Mere Christianity is nonfiction, while The Screwtape Letters is fiction, in case that makes a difference.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 09:24 AM (BpYfr)

63 Well because there was a vietcong agent who was their press stringer thats who halberstam relied upon

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:25 AM (PXvVL)

64 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

It was a dark and stormy night and it wasn't warm out thar irregardless of what the weatherman said.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:25 AM (T4tVD)

65 China though the 2nd book actually sent troops to North Vietnam to release Vietnam troops to go south. Pilots, defense forces, advisors all came from China.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:26 AM (fwDg9)

66 Yes there wasnt a real different between east asia and eurasia

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:26 AM (PXvVL)

67 inspiration (n.)
c. 1300, "immediate influence of God or a god," especially that under which the holy books were written, from Old French inspiracion "inhaling, breathing in; inspiration" (13c.), from Late Latin inspirationem (nominative inspiratio), noun of action from past-participle stem of Latin inspirare "blow into, breathe upon," figuratively "inspire, excite, inflame," from in- "in" (from PIE root *en "in") + spirare "to breathe" (see spirit (n.)). ,

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. [Genesis ii.7]
The sense evolution seems to be from "breathe into" to "infuse animation or influence," thus "affect, rouse, guide or control," especially by divine influence. Inspire (v.) in Middle English also was used to mean "breath or put life or spirit into the human body; impart reason to a human soul." Literal sense "act of inhaling" attested in English from 1560s. Meaning "one who inspires others" is attested by 1867.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:27 AM (di6C2)

68 Reading one of my birthday books, Confessions of a Prairie Bitch, by Alison Arngrim, about her time playing Nellie Oleson on Little House on Prairie. Wow, everyone sure hated Melissa Sue Anderson.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 05, 2024 09:28 AM (xQhxU)

69 Or, to borrow from Audrey Hepburn in Always:

'Inspiration- the Divine Breath'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:28 AM (di6C2)

70 I tore through Brandon Sanderson's Rhythms of War. There was a major plot twist in the last third. The room kept getting dusty in the last third as well.

Read Dawnshard, a novella in the same series, as well. Sanderson is spending more time explicitly dealing with things like PTSD and living with a disability, but he makes the characters interesting enough that it is only noticeable not obnoxious.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 05, 2024 09:28 AM (XjtdB)

71 This 2 book so far series definitely upsets a lot of common perception of the war. North Vietnam played well between China and Russia to get what they needed. Playing one against the other.

Really can't recommend these enough
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:23 AM (fwDg9)
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I find most American analysis of Asia (or anywhere else, honestly) completely lacking in context, culture and history. Korea and Vietnam were tributary states of China going back for a thousand years. There was no way China was going to permit foreign domination of either.

Communism was a big deal for the US, but Mao was Chinese first, Communist second.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:28 AM (llXky)

72 When my kids were little, I used I make up stories about
"when I worked in a *blank* factory".
The story would go off the rails and usually end up being fired.


Example:

That reminds me about when I used to work at the macaroni factory. I had a idea to make "Mega Macaroni". Huge macaroni the size of sewer pipes.

The story would go on from there and get more and more wacky until I was inevitably sacked.


And I'll bet your kids remember those stories very fondly. My dad used to tell us a story about a giant monster named Hermione (apparently an opera singer, not the HP girl). He was sort of like Godzilla, and would get killed at the end of each story. This may explain a lot about me.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:29 AM (CsUN+)

73 Ideation: I think the author of this week's read must have used the two incongruent ideas to come up with Down Don't Bother Me (author is Jason Miller).

Coal mine + private investigator made for a fun change of scenery for me. Slim, a coal miner and son of a notorious coal miner, gets dragged into an unofficial investigation of a murder that occurs deep in the mine.

Naturally, nothing is as it seems, and even as he tries to extract himself from the investigation, he gets pulled in deeper, surviving gnarly fights and murder attempts until he gets to the bottom of the matter.

Great language skills on this guy--he describes things vividly, and with clever humor. I'd have to flip back through for some of the best ones, but I do remember "he had a face like a carnival prize." Made me laugh.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 09:29 AM (OX9vb)

74 The first decision: the "Luke Cage Omnibus" from Marvel.

Sweet Christmas! I always enjoyed Luke Cage, although I don’t think the stories hold up as an adult. Part of it I think was the art. I didn’t pay attention to artists and writers at the time (not until Steve Gerber’s Howard the Duck deadline issue) but looking back I really enjoy George Tuska’s style.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 09:30 AM (EXyHK)

75 Since earlier in the week I bought a book just because I saw it on a store shelf, I'll pose a question to the horde: What is the best off-the-shelf purchase you made? A book that you weren't planning on buying, or didn't even know existed, until you saw it physically on the shelf at a bookshop?

The first one that comes to mind for me was "The Savage Tales of Solomon Kane" produced by Balentine Books/Del Rey. This would have been my very first foray into Robert E Howards written works. (I had seen the Conan the Barbarian movie, but hadn't yet connected that to the author) I saw this on the shelf at Barnes and Noble, and bought it solely on the strength of its cover: a painting of a puritan holding a longsword and a wooden stave. It was an awesome image, and the stories within were just as awesome. And it lead me down a path I no devote....well over 6 linear feat of shelf space to assorted Robert E Howard works and adaptations...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 05, 2024 09:30 AM (Lhaco)

76 One of the more unusual murder weapons in employed for the task in Death Watch by John Dickson Carr. An undercover policeman is tracking down a dangerous criminal at the house of a watchmaker, and is found stabbed in the throat with an eight inch minute hand from a stable clock. Gideon Fell and Inspector Hadley must deal with an avalanche of clues and misdirections from everyone in the household. Four boarders and the household staff of watchmaker Johannes Carver are all presenting their statements and accusations, and many of them contradict each other. Is one of them a thief, or a murderer, or both? Carr leads the reader in one direction, then another, and then changes course as the clues are discarded and replaced by new ones. When the mystery is solved, it surprises everyone except the brilliant Gideon Fell. This is an entertaining story that challenges the reader to recall every clue.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 09:30 AM (lTGtQ)

77 Gorilla warfare.
Everyone knows they were the orangutang operators.
Didn't I just explain the Duct Apes last night? Jim Pansies.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (zdLoL)

78 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.


"The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."

Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (/RHNq)

79 78 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.


"The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (/RHNq)

Second sentence suggestion: 'Wackiness ensued.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:32 AM (di6C2)

80 Books read or reading:

A short history of the worldby Geoffrey Blainey. He wrote the highly influential The Causes of War. Good summary, hitting the key points.

The Silk Roads : a new history of the world by Peter Frankopan.
Sorta good, with a new look on Far East culture. Went off the rails discussing slavery, and became extreme Leftist cant afterwards.

(part 1)

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 05, 2024 09:33 AM (u82oZ)

81 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (/RHNq)
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Seveneves by Neal Stephenson, I believe...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 09:33 AM (BpYfr)

82 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

"I'm pretty sure I used to have a penis", Sid mused.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (CsUN+)

83 China though the 2nd book actually sent troops to North Vietnam to release Vietnam troops to go south. Pilots, defense forces, advisors all came from China.
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:26 AM (fwDg9)
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The sources I read said 350,000 Chinese were in Vietnam. Kind of a big deal.

When not reading about spiritual warfare, I've been scouring the internet for information about Chinese-made Kar98k Mausers, and how they reached the US. A bunch were sold during the 1980s when they were removed from the militia inventory, but there are ones with no import mark, and I can't figure out how they came here. Many of them have the militia property mark on the stock, which was added after Korea. Were they captured in Vietnam? Bought on the black market? I've consulted with some experts about marks, translations and whenever I bring up how they got here, the conversation ends.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (llXky)

84 Loving the "dad stories" recollections. Mine would tell us stories about a ghost fire truck, or a ghost airplane ("the stewardess appeared at the top of the stairs...and she was a skeleton!")

Posted by: skywch at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (uqhmb)

85 Berserk is one the best 90s shows ever. The first 2/3s has authentic-feeling rise of a warlord. 1400s Europe was made up of mostly small states not unlike medieval Japan.

The ?2010? show was pretty good as well.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (lhenN)

86 The Silk Roads : a new history of the world by Peter Frankopan.
Sorta good, with a new look on Far East culture. Went off the rails discussing slavery, and became extreme Leftist cant afterwards.


Agree. It's a pity, because the book started strong.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (CsUN+)

87 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 09:35 AM (lhenN)

88 It's a novel-within-a-novel novel told by an unreliable narrator.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


I like both themes. Sounds like Iain Pears.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 09:35 AM (lTGtQ)

89 Communism was a big deal for the US, but Mao was Chinese first, Communist second.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:28 AM


Even more so for Uncle Ho, who first approached the U.S. for assistance in getting rid of the French, turning to the Commies after being rebuffed.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 09:35 AM (a3Q+t)

90 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (/RHNq)
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Is this a novelization of Space: 1999?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:36 AM (llXky)

91 Communism was a big deal for the US, but Mao was Chinese a genocidal monster first, Communist second.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:37 AM (CsUN+)

92 Build you vocabulary.

She unbuttoned her blouse, exposing he left Hoobadabba.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 09:38 AM (T4tVD)

93 Neuromancer by William Gibson

This is part of my ongoing quest to read certain books prior to my milestone birthday later this summer. I always find it fascinating to read this kind of book because it seems so cliche at first.


See? That's why you should have read it 40 years ago. In general, speculative fiction doesn't age well. Either it becomes ridiculous or it becomes reality.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 09:39 AM (/y8xj)

94 Even more so for Uncle Ho, who first approached the U.S. for assistance in getting rid of the French, turning to the Commies after being rebuffed.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 09:35 AM (a3Q+t)
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In Alms for Oblivion, Peter Kemp writes about his experience in Indochina immediately after the Japanese surrender. US officials and advisors were falling over themselves trying to undermine the French and prevent re-establishment of their colonial government. The Brits were not pleased.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:39 AM (llXky)

95 I've heard that Charles M. Schultz, creator of Peanuts, would flip through catalogues looking for ideas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 09:39 AM (L/fGl)

96 Is this a novelization of Space: 1999?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:36 AM (llXky)

'The moon left and went on adventures for no apparent reason.'

'Also, Barbara Bain.'

https://tinyurl.com/2s4zrx3u

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:39 AM (di6C2)

97 "The first duty of a Highborn lady is obedience."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2024 09:40 AM (BpYfr)

98 Yes they were in indonesia in korea and other placss

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:40 AM (PXvVL)

99 Communism was a big deal for the US, but Mao was Chinese a genocidal monster first, Communist second.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:37 AM (CsUN+)
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Mao's Great Leap Forward actually accomplished something unique in China's lengthy history: famine on a national scale. All of China's previous famines were localized, and the mark of a "good" dynasty was whether it used the extensive canal network to move grain to where it was needed or just let people starve.

Mao managed to make *everyone* starve. Quite the achievement.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (llXky)

100 Also, in the context of first sentences, the first sentence of Neuromancer has changed completely in meaning. At the time he wrote it "The sky above the port was the color of television tuned to a dead channel" set a stage that was hazy, gray, and grainy. Now it would mean clear blue.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (/y8xj)

101 91 Communism was a big deal for the US, but Mao was Chinese a genocidal monster first, Communist second.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:37 AM (CsUN+)

One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.

Need to follow up on that one. If true, I cannot imagine why it is never mentioned.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (di6C2)

102 @75 --

"The Dogs of War."

I picked it up at my favorite used-book store, where it was sitting on an outside table under the eave. The store was closed. I went there only to kill time while my car was getting new tires at a shop across the street.

The back cover text interested me, and the first chapter had me hooked.

I don't recall how I paid for the book if the store was closed, but it was the best 25 cents I spent.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (p/isN)

103 Seveneves by Neal Stephenson, I believe...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel




Yessir. Need to read it again.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (/RHNq)

104 A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K Le Guin ...

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 09:23 AM (lhenN)
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I've got a signed copy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (RIvkX)

105 Thanks for another dandy Book Thread, Perfessor!

I find myself reading far more this year than in years past, and I have the book thread to thank for that. The advice of Horde members on authors and books worth enjoying is invaluable.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 05, 2024 09:44 AM (U3L4U)

106 Well not exactly the khmer was maos direct proxie the decolonists

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:44 AM (PXvVL)

107 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.

Need to follow up on that one. If true, I cannot imagine why it is never mentioned.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (di6C2)
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Didn't it come out a few years ago that the gunshot the National Guard heard came from an FBI informant? The FBI covered it up and lied about it for decades because that's what they do.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:44 AM (llXky)

108 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.


I saw that and was also a bit surprised. I'll need more evidence.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (CsUN+)

109 48 When my kids were little, I used I make up stories about
"when I worked in a *blank* factory".
The story would go off the rails and usually end up being fired.


That's hilarious. I'll bet the kids loved your stories.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (OX9vb)

110 like both themes. Sounds like Iain Pears.

Posted by: Thomas Paine




Another author I really need to re-read everything he's ever written, and right quick.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (/RHNq)

111 Part 2

Empire : a new history of the world by Paul Strathern. Pedestrian treatment of human development, focusing on large empires.
Seems to leave a lot out, and Global Warming is the convenient villain.

Numbers don't lie : 71 stories to help us understand the modern world by Vaclav Smil. A cover blurb touts this author as one who influences Bill Gates a lot.

He has seemingly solid analysis of many issues. He tries to get good numbers, but mostly from known compromised governmental bodies like the UN.

But the areas I know the best, like chemistry, raising beef, and innovation, show how his analysis is shallow. He makes a good case for chickens, but ignores Dutch advances in raising beef and using greenhouses to act as carbon dioxide sinks. American ranchers use a lot marginal land to raise beef. His water use knowledge is poor.
He is best in engineering analysis, but not on political malfeasance or how a sound society really works.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (u82oZ)

112 100 Also, in the context of first sentences, the first sentence of Neuromancer has changed completely in meaning. At the time he wrote it "The sky above the port was the color of television tuned to a dead channel" set a stage that was hazy, gray, and grainy. Now it would mean clear blue.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 09:42 AM (/y8xj)

I think you could argue that all writing kind of needs a common cultural touchstones between the writer and reader for you to get the full meaning and what the writer is trying to say.

When modern historians try to intuit ancient writing, I think they are probably missing tons of context and information because they have no relation to the idiom of the time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (di6C2)

113 Well not exactly the khmer was maos direct proxie the decolonists
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:44 AM (PXvVL)
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China invaded Vietnam in 1979 to make them leave Cambodia. It didn't work, and China instead got some border adjustments so they could save face because the Vietnamese were kicking their ass.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:46 AM (llXky)

114 The winter was stormy. We had constant brown-outs, the battery backup didn't backup, so the computer was unavailable.

I had a new shirt-pocket sized blank booklet. And an idea.

Several years before, I had a comic book graphic novel in mind, did some sketches and some plot notes, but couldn't get it to gel. Buried the sketches and notes in a file drawer.

Small blank book in hand, I started sketching the beginnings of the story, from a different angle. I got several pages done when I realized the story was forming in my head faster than I could draw. I took up a legal pad and began hand-writing.

It was as if the tale had been slowly simmering on a back burner all those years. The words flowed out, onto a second legal pad, and a third.

I do believe this inspired flow was because I was hand-writing rather than keyboarding. I was as much following the story as it unfolded as I was writing it, meeting characters and situations I'd not had in mind when I started. ...

1/2

Posted by: mindful webworker - Invulnerable at May 05, 2024 09:46 AM (OOnTd)

115 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 05, 2024 09:47 AM (u82oZ)

116 2/2

The story complete, save for the last bit which I added later, and the power back on steady, I began converting it to webwork. I scanned and lightly cleaned up the early comic sketches, for the introduction of the story, and then transitioned to just text, with a few spot illustrations. I still had in mind the idea of it as a graphic novel, but realized my cartooning skills weren't up to the level the story needed. It's mixed media webwork.

I didn't change much for the semi-final draft that's on-line. Every year I re-read it, and find a few typos, but otherwise it's just what I first wrote. For what it's worth, I'm mostly satisfied with it. Have had little feedback on it.

I have other stories in mind, but they don't seem to be as forthcoming. I've been too busy to pick up a new legal pad and try hand-writing again.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Invulnerable at May 05, 2024 09:47 AM (OOnTd)

117 I saw that and was also a bit surprised. I'll need more evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (CsUN+)

My thought as well. Delicious if true, but I am skeptical of anything that confirms a bias one way or another- even my own.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:47 AM (di6C2)

118 >A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K Le Guin ...

It feels like a an ancient story, not a story written in 1968. Similar to Tolkien in that respect.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 09:47 AM (lhenN)

119 That line sounds great but it doesnt make any sense

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:48 AM (PXvVL)

120 Most of my "wasn't looking for it or didn't know it existed" purchases happened 7th grade through high school. Heinlein, Jack Williamson, Bradbury, Fritz Leiber, Matheson... all easily found on the mass market racks that abounded back then. Later? One that comes immediately to mind is Joseph Epstein's early essay collection Plausible Prejudices, which made me a fan.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 09:48 AM (q3u5l)

121 China though the 2nd book actually sent troops to North Vietnam to release Vietnam troops to go south. Pilots, defense forces, advisors all came from China.
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:26 AM (fwDg9)


I recently gave some of my students an assignment on the Vietnam War, and it's eye-opening how many of them had been convinced there was no connection between China and North Vietnam. Then again, most of them also believed the loss of Vietnam had no effects on the rest of Southeast Asia.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2024 09:49 AM (g0Y4p)

122 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (/RHNq)

Overmined IIRC

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 09:49 AM (ENQN6)

123 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.

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I enjoyed The Map of Time by Felix J. Palma, a time travel syfy novel that was chock full of idea and moods. One of the episodes concerned the first sentences of great books.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 09:49 AM (L/fGl)

124 I have been waiting all week to write about this. Based on all the discussion in previous weeks about Zelazny, I decided to reread the Amber series. I was quite taken with these books back in the day, even named my first dog Corwin.
I am now on book IV. I have no idea why I liked the books. There are many characters with hardly any back story so you have no idea why they do what they do.The action wanders around aimlessly. The battles are just noise. How things turn out is always Deus Ex Machina.I no longer care if Corwin wins out.
I do not understand why he is considered "one of the greatest".
There. I said it.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 09:49 AM (t/2Uw)

125 I forgot to say that, having lost a good part of a week to the Words of Radiance series, I plan on buying the set on Kindle in the near future so I can have it read to me instead of having to sit there. Also, I thought I'd read the third book, but if so it didn't stick.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 05, 2024 09:50 AM (XjtdB)

126 Because Communists just can't murder when they can, during Tet in Hue murdered as many government officials they could get their hands on. Including the janitor of a government building family.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:50 AM (fwDg9)

127 The Quinoa salad glistened bravely despite Trump's best efforts to escape justice.

Posted by: Fireplug McTaters, nom de plume of mystery at May 05, 2024 09:51 AM (Vf0uo)

128 If this was so why did it take three years to invade

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:51 AM (PXvVL)

129 If anyone is interested there are a bunch of ebook deals on humblebundle.com

Jonathan Maberry, Dune books by Frank's son Brian, some litrpg, some graphic novels and fiction for witcher, battletech, & cyberpunk 2077, and assorted other bundles.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 05, 2024 09:51 AM (Y6IkP)

130 It's quite possible that rabies has returned to the library also.
Wild raccoons are NOT domestic pets

Posted by: The Doctor at May 05, 2024 09:52 AM (qNzP3)

131 119 That line sounds great but it doesnt make any sense
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:48 AM (PXvVL)

“The truth may be stretched thin, but it never breaks, and it always surfaces above lies, as oil floats on water.”
“Bear in mind, Sancho, that one man is no more than another, unless he does more than another.”
“The fool knows more in his own house than the wise man in someone else’s.”
“He who loses wealth loses much; he who loses a friend loses more, but he that loses his courage loses all.”
“Love is a power too strong to be overcome by anything but flight.”
“Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn.”

I went looking for a pity retort from Cervantes and realized I need to reread Don Quixote.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:52 AM (di6C2)

132 China though the 2nd book actually sent troops to North Vietnam to release Vietnam troops to go south. Pilots, defense forces, advisors all came from China.
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 09:26 AM (fwDg9)

Over a cup of coffee, Matt Dillon passed along one interesting piece of information that the radio relay intercept team attached to our headquarters had come up with. Says Dillon: “They had made an intercept of a coded message in Mandarin dialect, like a situation report, from a position somewhere on a line from Plei Me camp directly through a clearing at the base of Chu Pong mountain. The intelligence lieutenant had a map with a line drawn on it. He said that the radio transmitter was somewhere on this line."

Intelligence at Ia Drang.

https://tinyurl.com/4pmd9k8z

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 09:52 AM (R/m4+)

133 When modern historians try to intuit ancient writing, I think they are probably missing tons of context and information because they have no relation to the idiom of the time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (di6C2)
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Increasingly, modern academics insert their own prejudices and politics into their analysis, creating interpretations completely at variance with the historic circumstances.

Take Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror. It starts well, but her mid-20th Century Feminist mentality starts to manifest with asides about how primitive they were, how everyone now knows that women are just as strong and capable as men, etc.

And like almost all historians, she operates under the assumption that all religion is just a silly superstition, and that was used by hucksters to dupe the rubes.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:52 AM (llXky)

134 William Alan Webb, if you're lurking...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 05, 2024 09:14 AM (PiwSw)

Forgot to change my socks....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 09:53 AM (0eaVi)

135 In Alms for Oblivion, Peter Kemp writes about his experience in Indochina immediately after the Japanese surrender. US officials and advisors were falling over themselves trying to undermine the French and prevent re-establishment of their colonial government. The Brits were not pleased.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 09:39 AM (llXky)


FDR repeatedly made it clear to Churchill during the war that ending colonialism was nearly as, if not equally, as important to him as defeating Hitler.

Unfortunately for Churchill, he wasn't in a position to tell FDR to piss off.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2024 09:53 AM (g0Y4p)

136 Good morning all....yet another rainy day here, perfect for curling up with a book. Especially one from the library in the photo, on a battleship none the less!!!!

Posted by: Grateful at May 05, 2024 09:54 AM (JrIax)

137 And decolonization in india cyprus and palestine worked out dandy

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 09:55 AM (PXvVL)

138 I need to wire frame a simple web site for home remodeling. Are all the design apps about the same?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 09:55 AM (ENQN6)

139 Fun fact: Neuromancer was written on a manual typewriter. Gibson apparently never even SAW a personal computer until after the book came out. He was surprised at how noisy they were.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 09:56 AM (78a2H)

140 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
Posted by: Sharkman

The Hamazi sneaking away just prior was pure coincidence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 09:57 AM (L/fGl)

141 86 The Silk Roads : a new history of the world by Peter Frankopan.
Sorta good, with a new look on Far East culture. Went off the rails discussing slavery, and became extreme Leftist cant afterwards.

Agree. It's a pity, because the book started strong.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (CsUN+)

That silk road book sounded halfway familiar, but, no, the book I had read somewhat recently was a different tome on the subject, "The Roman Empire and the Silk Routes" by Raul McLaughlin. I enjoyed it. It only covered the early era of the route, and at the end it did stray into some tangents: importing crystal into the Roman Empire, and the historical importance of the Crimean peninsula.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 05, 2024 09:57 AM (Lhaco)

142 For my money, Zelazny was at his best in short work. The Amber books, while popular and no doubt profitable, pale in comparison to stories like "A Rose for Ecclesiastes," "The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth," "The Graveyard Heart," and many others. There's a collection of his early short work called The Magic, which includes some of his best early stories. Well worth a look even if you can't stand the Amber series. For novels, try This Immortal, The Dream Master, Lord of Light, and Isle of the Dead.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 09:57 AM (q3u5l)

143 For brain cleansing, I read some very trashy Science Fiction.

From the Family d'Alembert series by Stephen Goldin, featuring agents of Service Of The Empire:

#7 Planet of Treachery
#9 The Omicron Invasion (1984).

Fluff and nonsense.

Interestingly, he rewrote the entire 10 book series 30 years later, featuring agents of the Imperial Special Investigation Service. Have not read them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 05, 2024 09:57 AM (u82oZ)

144 74 The first decision: the "Luke Cage Omnibus" from Marvel.

Sweet Christmas! I always enjoyed Luke Cage, although I don’t think the stories hold up as an adult. Part of it I think was the art. I didn’t pay attention to artists and writers at the time (not until Steve Gerber’s Howard the Duck deadline issue) but looking back I really enjoy George Tuska’s style.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 09:30 AM (EXyHK)

I read issue 2 as part of the online preview that Amazon has up....that particular issue holds up, and it's what sold me on the title. So, here's hoping the rest is as good!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 05, 2024 09:58 AM (Lhaco)

145 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.

Xxxx
This makes no sense. These were anti war protests because college students were being drafted. The politics of the war had nothing to do with it. This was personal. No one wanted to get their asses shot for the Vietnamese.
Xxxx
Now back to your regular programming.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 09:58 AM (t/2Uw)

146 "I had read too much to believe what I put down was of any worth." I'd bet this explains why a lot of books never get written.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 09:22 AM (q3u5l)

Every writer feels that way, I'd wager. I sub to Jerry Jenkins' e-mails and even he says he thinks that all the time before he starts a book. 'course, he could be fibbin' a bit....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 10:01 AM (0eaVi)

147 I read Nuclear War: A Scenario by Anne Jacobson. This isn't another dystopian novel. Rather it is a minute by minute account of what would happen if the U. S. came under nuclear attack. In this scenario, North Korea launches a nuclear tipped ICBM targeted at the Pentagon. It is followed by a submarine-fired missile which targets the Diablo Nuclear Power Plant on the central coast of California. As a final shot, Kim Jung Il orders a satellite to be positioned over Omaha which detonates a nuclear bomb 300 miles up and causes an EMP.


The book is soon reading like a thriller, but it is an accurate portrayal of the scenario. Seventy-four minutes after the initial North Korean launch the U. S. and Russia have launched all their nuclear assets, except some on submarines; obeying the "use it or lose it" doctrine. A discussion of the nuclear winter aftermath is also discussed. A very interesting, informative, and chilling book.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 05, 2024 10:01 AM (gyCYJ)

148 That famous photo of the Saigon police chief executing a VC in the street that caused so much outrage was, of course, shown without the backstory.

The dead VC had been caught red-handed having just murdered a general and the general's entire family, including numerous little kids.

So the police chief did what one does and popped the fucker. The photographer later expressed remorse that his photo had caused the police chief such difficulty, once he discovered the true story. Too late, of course.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 10:02 AM (/RHNq)

149 "Beau had died in many ways, and under many circumstances, but this one was turning out to be the worst."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 05, 2024 10:02 AM (TcVeV)

150 In sad news, I am done with J.D. Robb. Just finished her next to last Dallas book, in which there were 5 (count 'em- five) gay couples. In one murder investigation which had nothing to do with LGBT, etc.
And one trannie victim.
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 09:15 AM (IZjwR)
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That is sad! I'm still in the 30s on her books, but it seems there are gay couples all over the place. The characters are either minor or the gay part of it is not a major part of their part of the story. I ignore that aspect and focus on the rest.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 05, 2024 10:03 AM (U3L4U)

151 Looking back at Vietnam is like an alternate universe. The past is a foreign country, etc.

Still, in 2008 there was (or appeared to be) a peace movement that wanted the US to pull out of Iraq and other places, media noted "grim milestones" and yet now many of the same politicians who stood for peace make speeches about how everyone benefits from America being the world's foremost Merchant of Death.

Strange days.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:03 AM (llXky)

152 Once again, I must ask: has there ever been a college-based political movement which was simultaneously beneficial, successful, and moral?

The anti-Vietnam War protesters were successful . . . at helping a bloody-handed tyranny control that unfortunate country.

A Certain Political Movement in 1930s Germany had lots of campus support. Again, successful but evil.

I think it's a reasonable position to assume that any college political movement is either evil, harmful, or doomed.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 10:03 AM (78a2H)

153 You might consider going over and sitting next to All Hail Eris, who is often pantsless in blatant defiance of this very stricture.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 09:24 AM (a3Q+t)
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I'm the Rosa Parks of pantslessness!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 10:03 AM (FkUwd)

154 Increasingly, modern academics insert their own prejudices and politics into their analysis, creating interpretations completely at variance with the historic circumstances.

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Erik Larson's latest book, The Demon of Unrest, about the months leading up to the outbreak of the Civil War, was released a few days ago and I bought it. It contains an opening note thus:

I was well into my research on the saga of Fort Sumter and the advent of the American Civil War when the events of January 6, 2021, took place. As I watched the Capitol assault unfold on camera, I had the eerie feeling that present and past had merged.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:04 AM (L/fGl)

155 Another author I really need to re-read everything he's ever written, and right quick.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (/RHNq)

I've only read one book by Iain Pears, and I contend there is no way you can do that right quick.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 10:05 AM (OX9vb)

156 I don't claim to know whether the Kent State protestors were rallying in support of the Khmer Rouge.

Given that we have a bunch of college kids rallying in support of murderous Hamas thugs, this does not seem implausible.

Posted by: PabloD at May 05, 2024 10:07 AM (f7a6n)

157 The J.D Robb books always surprise me because she seems to come up with a legitimate mystery in every book. Her main characters have taken on a life of their own so I actually can visualize them when they appear in the story. I always wondered why they were never made into a movie.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:07 AM (t/2Uw)

158 "The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
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Well now I need to read "Seveneves".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 10:07 AM (FkUwd)

159 I was well into my research on the saga of Fort Sumter and the advent of the American Civil War when the events of January 6, 2021, took place. As I watched the Capitol assault unfold on camera, I had the eerie feeling that present and past had merged.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:04 AM (L/fGl)
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Admissions like that completely destroy any trust in the actual work. If you can't use skeptical analysis in the present, how can I trust you to do so in the past?

The last few years have been really interesting in identifying which historians you can trust.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:08 AM (llXky)

160 Put the brown acid down larson

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 10:08 AM (PXvVL)

161 Morning, Book Folken!

The topics here, about generating ideas and Hemingway's writing tips, are both fascinations of mine.

Ideas? One night some years ago, after watching It's a Wonderful Life for the nth time, and picking up a crime novel about pro assassins, two elements bumped together in my mind. "What if George Bailey were secretly a hit man for hire?" And I wrote the story, and it's appeared on a couple of websites.

Another evening, when I took a sleep aid (the diphenhydramine stuff) almost every night, I found I had only one pill left instead of the usual two. My sleep was not as deep as I liked. The next day I pondered the border between sleeping and waking, and what might happen if you spent time in that border zone . . . and produced a short my writing group people said was "magical realism."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:08 AM (omVj0)

162 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.


If I remember right, the hippies were protesting Nixon's decision to invade Cambodia to wipe out the NVA sanctuaries and supply dumps in April 1970.

Hippies Gotta Hippie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 10:08 AM (R/m4+)

163 Test

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 10:09 AM (lTGtQ)

164 @143 --

I read the first book of that series. I picked it off the shelf solely because it had "Doc" Smith's name on the cover.

Utter unpleasant crap. I found that I couldn't cheer for the protagonists, even if they were trying to prevent galactic bloodshed.

That's one series that I will cheerfully pass by.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 10:09 AM (p/isN)

165 A discussion of the nuclear winter aftermath is also discussed.

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I've got it! A nuclear war with Russia (or China, I'm not picky) would cancel out climate crisis so it's all good!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:09 AM (L/fGl)

166 I don't claim to know whether the Kent State protestors were rallying in support of the Khmer Rouge.

Given that we have a bunch of college kids rallying in support of murderous Hamas thugs, this does not seem implausible.
Posted by: PabloD at May 05, 2024 10:07 AM (f7a6n)
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A Venn diagram of people who wanted the draft ended would have considerable overlap with people who hated the US government and wanted it overthrown. The path to radicalization is well documented.

I'll make a pitch for David Horowitz's Radical Son which documents the various currents of the time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:10 AM (llXky)

167 55 ... "Perfessor, should I start with 'The Screwtape Letters'?"

Interesting question. Lewis' writing was so varied a good starting point might depend on what mood you are in or what interests you have. The philosophy/apologia works like "Mere Christianity" or Abolition of Man" and his 'signature' books will make you think about so many things. His academic writings like "Preface to Paradise Lost" or "English Literature in the Sixteenth Century" offer brilliant insights into the topics but are deep and can call for previous knowledge or need a lot of follow-up. (I love them but I don't mind the endless rabbit holes they uncover.) Then there are a lot of short essays about various topics, usually in collections, that demonstrate his attitude about personal and social matters. Then the fiction that combines all the aspects of all his non-fiction writings: perception, attitude about social matters, humor, wit, and understanding of history and literature. His Space trilogy, the Narnia series and his poetry are examples.

I would have loved if Lewis had written the equivalent of his Preface to Paradise Lost about Montaigne's Essays.

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 10:10 AM (zudum)

168 That famous photo of the Saigon police chief executing a VC in the street that caused so much outrage was, of course, shown without the backstory.

I remember an assignment for an English class in college that was to collect some images that "told a story" or "made a strong statement" or something like that. My collection included that image, "napalm girl," and a photo-realistic painting of a perfect ass in a bikini. The prof returned it with a note that he didn't think the last one met the criterion. I think he may have been gay.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 10:10 AM (/y8xj)

169 One thing in my life I thought I knew but am confirming the more I read is Marxist Seminaries has gone on since the 60s. Even then as a young kid figured they were Communists. The First book Triumph Forsaken 56-65 the press were often Communist sympathizers.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 10:10 AM (fwDg9)

170 As for Hemingway's tips, I don't know about reading a dictionary cover to cover three times. But one suggestion of his I've taken to heart for years. It's that item above, "Stop when things are going well." Specifically, stop in the middle of a sentence.

If you finish a scene and skip two lines and are ready for the next one, don't stop. It will be extra hard to get started tomorrow. Type *part* of a starting sentence in the new scene. Tomorrow, you'll want to finish that sentence, and then you'll be able to continue more easily.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:11 AM (omVj0)

171 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.

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LSD is a helluva drug.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:11 AM (L/fGl)

172 The book is soon reading like a thriller, but it is an accurate portrayal of the scenario. Seventy-four minutes after the initial North Korean launch the U. S. and Russia have launched all their nuclear assets, except some on submarines; obeying the "use it or lose it" doctrine. A discussion of the nuclear winter aftermath is also discussed. A very interesting, informative, and chilling book.
Posted by: Zoltan at May 05, 2024 10:01 AM (gyCYJ)
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Does the book explain why all the nukes have to fly? Why would the US nuke Russia for something North Korea did? I mean, China I can see as a target, but that doesn't make sense. Seems like a bit of Dr. Strangelovian "the military guys can't wait to drop The Bomb" prejudice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:12 AM (llXky)

173 I'll make a pitch for David Horowitz's Radical Son which documents the various currents of the time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

One of my all time favorite books.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:14 AM (L/fGl)

174 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.


I saw that and was also a bit surprised. I'll need more evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (CsUN+)

What more evidence do you need than it was on the internet!?

Damm commies got what they deserved!!! If more protesters got shot, we wouldn't have all these protests!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 10:14 AM (0eaVi)

175 One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge.

The truest line ever put in a movie:

"What are you rebelling against?"

"Whadda ya got?"

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 10:14 AM (/y8xj)

176 College kids in the late sixties in no way resemble the college kids of today.
You are obviously way younger than me so have no idea what it was like. A generation of young men were being coerced into the military to fight a foreign war that we had no stake in. They hadn't attacked us unlike 9/11.
It would be as if you were drafted to go fight in Ukraine. Drafted.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:15 AM (t/2Uw)

177 Well did the sds blow up the rotc building that is left out of the story

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 10:15 AM (PXvVL)

178 "What's it like to kill another human being?"

"I don't know. I've only killed Communists."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:15 AM (llXky)

179 I always liked ‘…….it was a dark and stormy night…’ as a starter. It sorta gives you a heads-up to park the tractor and put on your pants, and don’t forget your harmonica either.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 10:16 AM (DXbAa)

180 When modern historians try to intuit ancient writing, I think they are probably missing tons of context and information because they have no relation to the idiom of the time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 09:45 AM (di6C2)

Yeah. Still not sure what a gasogene is in that Holmes story.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 10:17 AM (0eaVi)

181 Since folks are talking about Seveneves - I read it a few years ago, and overall I thought it was good. The idea of humanity being pushed to the very brink of extinction and then rebuilding with different genetic archetypes of people was interesting. I probably wouldn't give it a re-read, but for a vacation / airport novel it was fine.

Posted by: PabloD at May 05, 2024 10:17 AM (f7a6n)

182 You want a simple, declarative sentence to start a story?

"We were about to give up and call it a night when somebody dropped the girl off the bridge."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:18 AM (omVj0)

183
Kent State shooting

Wounded: nine males
Dead: two males, two females

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 10:18 AM (RKVpM)

184 I am getting all kinds of banned IP and security errors here today.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 10:18 AM (lTGtQ)

185 Yeah. Still not sure what a gasogene is in that Holmes story.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024


***
I think it's a soda water dispenser for adding to one's Scotch.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:18 AM (omVj0)

186 "Stop when things are going well."

When I write, things are never going well.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 05, 2024 10:19 AM (9yUzE)

187 "It was a dark and stormy night and it wasn't warm out thar irregardless of what the weatherman said."

Posted by JT

So cold that the birdbath was frozen?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 05, 2024 10:20 AM (dg+HA)

188 I think it's a soda water dispenser for adding to one's Scotch.

Because the Brits are monsters.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 10:20 AM (/y8xj)

189 My mother loathed Hemingway and she was forced to take a college class where the teacher was a Hemingway fanboy.

She wrote an essay that basically tore the man's work apart. The teacher handed it back with an A and said "I hated having to grade it like this but you backed up everything you said."

Posted by: NR Pax at May 05, 2024 10:20 AM (lXCUP)

190 " One thing I came across yesterday that I had never heard: The protesters who got their asses shot at Kent State were protesting in favor of the Khmer Rouge."

It was the "illegal" bombing of Cambodia. That is what the protesters were screaming about at the time. Lots of other reasons given since then.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 10:20 AM (QB+5g)

191 College kids in the late sixties in no way resemble the college kids of today.
You are obviously way younger than me so have no idea what it was like. A generation of young men were being coerced into the military to fight a foreign war that we had no stake in. They hadn't attacked us unlike 9/11.
It would be as if you were drafted to go fight in Ukraine. Drafted.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:15 AM (t/2Uw)
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I thought college kids got deferments. Most of the draftees were working class kids. I've also read that most of the combat troops in Vietnam were volunteers. The whole "nice thoughtful kid is turned into baby kill in 'Nam" was mostly media agitprop, and it was very effective.

It was a polarizing issue, and one of my uncles volunteered (he had a bit of legal trouble and the judge offered to drop the charges if he joined up) but his brothers were leading protest marches. Not a happy time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:21 AM (llXky)

192 Why was it illegal they were an unacknowledged pary of the conflict thanks prince sihanouk

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 10:22 AM (PXvVL)

193 good morning Perfessor, Horde

159 Man, is that true. Caveat emptor. Or more to the point, assume Moscow Rules when reading just about anything published these days.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 05, 2024 10:22 AM (JcnCJ)

194 You want a simple, declarative sentence to start a story?

"Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 10:23 AM (dg+HA)

195 The one truth is the us govt had no strategy and little understanding but thats a day ending in y

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 05, 2024 10:23 AM (PXvVL)

196 Yeah. Still not sure what a gasogene is in that Holmes story.
Posted by: OrangeEnt


It was the soda stream of its day.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 10:23 AM (S4IOx)

197 189 I too find Hemingway over rated. His short stories are his only genius. His novels are drenched in treacle. His Nick Adams stories are glorious.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 05, 2024 10:23 AM (/UtnQ)

198 Have a great day, everyone.

May your reading illuminate and entertain.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 05, 2024 10:25 AM (u82oZ)

199 Yeah. Still not sure what a gasogene is in that Holmes story.
Posted by: OrangeEnt


It was the soda stream of its day.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


More specifically, it had two glass globes, one with water and one with a bicarbonate mixture, to make carbonated water. They also tended to explode,

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 10:27 AM (S4IOx)

200 176 College kids in the late sixties in no way resemble the college kids of today.
You are obviously way younger than me so have no idea what it was like. A generation of young men were being coerced into the military to fight a foreign war that we had no stake in. They hadn't attacked us unlike 9/11.
It would be as if you were drafted to go fight in Ukraine. Drafted.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:15 AM (t/2Uw)
I graduated HS 1967 and fully expected to be drafted so I enlisted. Ukraine is different in this way, I know a hell of a lot more now than I did in 1967.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 10:27 AM (DXbAa)

201 Another interesting point: we'd had a draft since Korea, but the demographic bulge of the Baby Boom didn't reach early adulthood until 1968 or so, and given their career prospects, it's entirely likely that they would have protested any draft.

I mean, we began drawing down in Vietnam as soon as Nixon came in, but the draft still was repealed because the Boomers didn't like it. "I don't want to spend two years in Germany or South Korea" I think has less moral heft than "I don't want to get killed."

My father was a War Baby, so he evaded the draft by joining the Army Reserve. His younger brother did ROTC, but because he was working for GM as an engineer, was released from his service obligation after being declared "essential for wartime production" by his supervisor.

Strange days.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:28 AM (llXky)

202 I've just finished Larry McMurtry's Western Boone's Lick. It appears to be a standalone story, not the beginning of a new saga a la Lonesome Dove. Mary Margaret, a quintessential mother in Missouri, decides to head up to Wyoming to confront her wayward husband -- who is up there among the Sioux and Blackfeet when they are especially resentful of two new forts built on their land. She packs up her five kids (one, 15-year-old Shay, is the narrator), her father, and her brother-in-law into a wagon, and they set out. Adventures ensue.

Wild Bill Hickok makes an appearance, as does one historical incompetent officer, a Col. Fetterman (!).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:28 AM (omVj0)

203 “I hate writing, but loved having written.”

Posted by: Often attributed to Dorothy Parker at May 05, 2024 10:29 AM (dg+HA)

204 I had a friend in college who signed a 4 year contract with the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. His first duty stationed was on a gunboat on the Mekong. The best laid plans of mice and men.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 05, 2024 10:31 AM (/UtnQ)

205 With all due respect, Perfesser, why would you waste precious space on your intergalactic starship on a print library?! Oxygen doesn't grow on trees -- well, it does, but you get the point.

I have a promotional T-shirt, from the graphic novel publisher First Second, with the legend "In space, no one can hear you read."

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at May 05, 2024 10:31 AM (SPNTN)

206 I too find Hemingway over rated. His short stories are his only genius. His novels are drenched in treacle. His Nick Adams stories are glorious.
Posted by: Puddinhead at May 05, 2024


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He may be overrated in some departments. His novels are kinda dull, and though For Whom the Bell Tolls is quite exciting in places, esp. the end, it too suffers from a long low stretch in the middle -- like an overloaded hammock. There are "simple, declarative sentence" writers who did what he did, overall, much better.

But everyone who wants to be a writer should read at least some of his work

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:32 AM (omVj0)

207 If you finish a scene and skip two lines and are ready for the next one, don't stop. It will be extra hard to get started tomorrow. Type *part* of a starting sentence in the new scene. Tomorrow, you'll want to finish that sentence, and then you'll be able to continue more easily.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:11 AM (omVj0)

Right, because if you stop, you'll come back and say, "what was I doing?"

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 10:32 AM (0eaVi)

208 More specifically, it had two glass globes, one with water and one with a bicarbonate mixture, to make carbonated water. They also tended to explode,
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024


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There is a comic short play by GB Shaw called "The Fatal Gasogene."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:33 AM (omVj0)

209 @ 75
Recently? That would be "Night Circus".

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 10:33 AM (IZjwR)

210 Last word on this...
There was no internet then. There was no daily new analysis. There wasn't even TV except in some common areas. You are postulating a depth of knowledge that wasn't available at the time. People in colleges were getting draft notices. They had to obtain a deferment. The protests were against the government but not for some exotic disagreement with government policy.
This is relating today's actions to a time in history that was in no way similar. No Internet!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:34 AM (t/2Uw)

211 Good morning Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 10:34 AM (W/lyH)

212 On occasion, I've stopped in the middle of a sentence, come back the next day, and still found myself wondering just what the hell I was doing.

Breaks of the game, I guess.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 10:34 AM (q3u5l)

213 "I graduated HS 1967 and fully expected to be drafted so I enlisted. Ukraine is different in this way, I know a hell of a lot more now than I did in 1967."

It's not really that different at all.

Just because you didn't know wtf was going on it doesn't mean it wasn't going on. The government's solution at that time was to throw money and young men at it, now they just throw money....for now.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 10:34 AM (QB+5g)

214 I think it's a soda water dispenser for adding to one's Scotch.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:18 AM (omVj0)

Could be. I can't remember which story it was in.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 10:36 AM (0eaVi)

215
I had a friend in college who signed a 4 year contract with the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. His first duty stationed was on a gunboat on the Mekong. The best laid plans of mice and men.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 05, 2024 10:31 AM


Ha! That was my plan, to join the Coast Guard. But then the war started winding down and I pulled an incredibly high draft number.

Which excited my Dad more then it did me. I don't think I understood his feelings until 'the Wall' came down and I knew my son would be safe.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 10:36 AM (RKVpM)

216 What is the best off-the-shelf purchase you made?

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Two occasions leap to mind both of which concerned a long wait and my choice was to read while waiting or to simply wait. One was Dean Koontz, whom I had never heard of, and his novel False Memory which I loved and which led to me reading much Koontz. The other was Martin Middlebrook's The Nuremburg Raid about a disastrous British night bombing raid. Similarly, I subsequently read much Middlebrook.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:38 AM (L/fGl)

217 >>> 78 Start with a true, simple, declarative sentence.


"The moon blew up without warning and for no apparent reason."
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2024 09:31 AM (/RHNq)

I see that Seveneves was published in 2015.

Frank J. Fleming wrote *this* in 2002:
https://shorturl.at/kptHW

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 10:38 AM (llON8)

218 1968 protests weren't astroturfed like those of today. 1968 was driven by the Vietnam War. Which was our war. After we were lied into it by the Tonkin incident, and then LBJ ramped our participation from 20,000 advisers to over 500, 000 "in country." By 1968 domestic support was lost, which is why LBJ dropped out.

Today's protests are ostensibly about Gaza, but they could have been about whatever else was handy. But bonus points for Gaza because it brings the Jew hate.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 10:39 AM (Gse2f)

219 I missed that little party in SE Asia; I didn't turn eighteen until the peak had passed and Nixon was drawing everything down. But I sure didn't want to go get shot at (and no doubt, being a kid, I'd have done something stupid and got myself killed). Hell, I didn't even want to do boot camp; I'd seen Jack Webb in The D.I.

If I'd drawn a low number, aka "You're about to be drafted, boyo," I'd have gone for the Navy and tried to get into submarines or something.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:39 AM (omVj0)

220 Frank J. Fleming wrote *this* in 2002:
https://shorturl.at/kptHW
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 05, 2024 10:38 AM (llON

Haha, I had never seen that. Thanks!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 05, 2024 10:41 AM (OX9vb)

221 "His first duty stationed was on a gunboat on the Mekong. "

First rule: Never get out of the boat.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 10:41 AM (Gse2f)

222 What is the best off-the-shelf purchase you made?

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An Instance of the Fingerpost by Iain Pears is one, and The Ice Limit by Preston and Child is another. Led me to 30 plus books.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 05, 2024 10:41 AM (lTGtQ)

223 That is sad! I'm still in the 30s on her books, but it seems there are gay couples all over the place. The characters are either minor or the gay part of it is not a major part of their part of the story. I ignore that aspect and focus on the rest.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 05, 2024 10:03 AM (U3L4U)

Think of it as "woke creep". Thirty novels later, it is very "in your face". I liked the police procedural aspect so much, as well as the engaging characters, that I initially overlooked it but now I guess I'm just old and cranky.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 10:41 AM (IZjwR)

224 I too find Hemingway over rated.

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There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Hemingway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:41 AM (L/fGl)

225 My Dad resented my attitude and resistance to the Vietnam War. After a bunch of arguments I found out it was based on his experience during the Korean War where he got called back because he was in the reserves after serving in WW2.

"The government screwed me and my generation and now it's your turn".

The thing was he volunteered for the Reserves along with a bunch of his frat brothers for beer money while he was in college.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 10:43 AM (QB+5g)

226 {{{Eromero}}}

Yes!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:43 AM (t/2Uw)

227 You want a simple, declarative sentence to start a story?

"Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment."
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 10:23 AM (dg+HA)


*swwooooooooot*

Foul, Passive voice. 15 yards penalty.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 10:44 AM (D7oie)

228 I missed that little party in SE Asia; I didn't turn eighteen until the peak had passed and Nixon was drawing everything down. But I sure didn't want to go get shot at (and no doubt, being a kid, I'd have done something stupid and got myself killed). Hell, I didn't even want to do boot camp; I'd seen Jack Webb in The D.I.

If I'd drawn a low number, aka "You're about to be drafted, boyo," I'd have gone for the Navy and tried to get into submarines or something.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:39 AM (omVj0)

Dang! You're a lot older than I thought....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 10:44 AM (0eaVi)

229 If I'd drawn a low number, aka "You're about to be drafted, boyo," I'd have gone for the Navy and tried to get into submarines or something.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:39 AM (omVj0)

A fella I know did exactly that...he enlisted in the Navy and wound up on the USS Forrestal.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 10:45 AM (R/m4+)

230 Two of my best off-the-shelf grabs -- not purchases, but from the public library -- were sheer serendipity. The New York Murders, an omnibus of three Ellery Queen novels, was one, and it led me to the rest of his/their work and a strong background in logical thinking.

The other was Three Famous Murder Novels, an omnibus put together by Bennett Cerf of Random House. The first in it, Before the Fact by Francis Iles, affected the fourteen-year-old me so strongly I couldn't read the other two right away, and brought me to a lifelong fascination with the charming, manipulative sociopath.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:46 AM (omVj0)

231 First rule: Never get out of the boat.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2024 10:41 AM (Gse2f)


*fistbump*

Posted by: Marlin Perkins at May 05, 2024 10:47 AM (PiwSw)

232 If I'd drawn a low number, aka "You're about to be drafted, boyo," I'd have gone for the Navy and tried to get into submarines or something.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024
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A fella I know did exactly that...he enlisted in the Navy and wound up on the USS Forrestal.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024


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Was the Forrestal stationed in Vietnam waters then?

In any case I'd have been on a ship, eating regularly and not slogging through mud and jungle and stepping on landmines or pungee sticks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:48 AM (omVj0)

233 Dang! You're a lot older than I thought....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024


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Dirt was invented during my junior year in high school.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:49 AM (omVj0)

234 I had a friend in college who signed a 4 year contract with the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. His first duty stationed was on a gunboat on the Mekong. The best laid plans of mice and men.

Posted by: Puddinhead

Dude, read the fine print. They never said which coast you'd be guarding.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 10:50 AM (L/fGl)

235 "Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment."
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024
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*swwooooooooot*

Foul, Passive voice. 15 yards penalty.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024


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Still, it is a grabber of a sentence, especially a first one!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:50 AM (omVj0)

236 112 ... :When modern historians try to intuit ancient writing, I think they are probably missing tons of context and information because they have no relation to the idiom of the time."

Just got a book "King of the Celts: Arthurian Legends and Celtic Tradition" by Jean Markale. I've only read the intro so far but the author makes the point that modern historians try to take a 'scientific' approach to history. The problem being they put their own spin on the hard facts, such as a few relics, and ignore the culture that produced the legends because it isn't something they can touch or hold in their hands. But these modern historians consider their interpretations (i. e., opinions) superior to those who incorporate the folklore that events or people inspired.

I love reading about history but a lot of modern stuff comes across as pronouncements, not interpretations with evidence. The Landmark series is excellent as it uses both approaches. (And includes a shitload of maps and charts, which helps the narrative and I appreciate.)

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 10:51 AM (zudum)

237
I had an employee originally from Ukraine who got drafted. Nice guy but not a rocket scientist. He said his entire tour of duty he did nothing but burn shit. Like excrement, apparently.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 10:52 AM (RKVpM)

238 " I had a friend in college who signed a 4 year contract with the Coast Guard to avoid Vietnam. His first duty stationed was on a gunboat on the Mekong. The best laid plans of mice and men.
"

Checking all the Sampans to see if they have enough life preservers.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 10:55 AM (QB+5g)

239 If I could have been fairly sure, going into the service, that I could have wound up in an office -- in Germany or even in Saigon -- typing reports and filing things like company clerk Radar O'Reilly, I would have been okay with it. No guarantees, though, I knew. (And I didn't know how to type then anyway.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:55 AM (omVj0)

240 I read another Spenser book and liked this one quite a lot. Actually stayed up to finish it. Pale Kings and Princes and still written by Robert B Parker but think I'm getting to the end of books he actually wrote. This one finds Spenser in a small town in rural Ma having been hired by a local newspaper to find out who killed a reporter he sent to research a story. So, an actual whodunnit and he does actual detective work. And Hawk appears which always makes the book better.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 10:56 AM (t/2Uw)

241 Graduated college in 1971 with a guaranteed-call draft lottery number; had an out and used it, and don't really regret having missed that particular fiasco.

'Course, the way things are going, I'll probably live long enough to see the EMP or CBW attack our Brilliant Leaders seem to be inviting for us...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 10:57 AM (q3u5l)

242 _Guten Morgen_, Horde!

This past week I read Jonathan Cahn's _The Harbinger_. I'm nearly finished with Bill Pasmore's _Advanced Consulting_. I have a few texts with bookmarks holding places beyond page 30; the one that's moving fastest is Chris Couch's _Urban Planning_.

_Einen schoenen Tag wuensche ich euch allen_!

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at May 05, 2024 10:57 AM (8SABE)

243 The first in it, Before the Fact by Francis Iles, affected the fourteen-year-old me so strongly I couldn't read the other two right away, and brought me to a lifelong fascination with the charming, manipulative sociopath.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 10:46 AM (omVj0)

Yes, a Top Ten.
The Production Code ruined the movie, but Cary Grant was perfectly cast.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 10:59 AM (IZjwR)

244 Does the book explain why all the nukes have to fly? Why would the US nuke Russia for something North Korea did? I mean, China I can see as a target, but that doesn't make sense. Seems like a bit of Dr. Strangelovian "the military guys can't wait to drop The Bomb" prejudice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 05, 2024 10:12 AM (llXky)


As U. S. nukes fly to North Korea, they must fly over Russian territory. Their early-warning system is not as sophisticated as ours and there is a big argument at the highest level whether to unleash or not. However, things move quickly and they only have a minutes to make a decision. The hawks win.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 05, 2024 11:00 AM (gyCYJ)

245 I've heard that the Pentagon wasn't really sorry to see the end of the draft anyway, as they could see the nature of warfare was changing and wanted more long-service professionals. Anybody know more about this?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 11:00 AM (78a2H)

246 I read another Spenser book and liked this one quite a lot. Actually stayed up to finish it. Pale Kings and Princes and still written by Robert B Parker but think I'm getting to the end of books he actually wrote. This one finds Spenser in a small town in rural Ma having been hired by a local newspaper to find out who killed a reporter he sent to research a story. So, an actual whodunnit and he does actual detective work. And Hawk appears which always makes the book better.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024


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Sharon, according to lists I've seen, he continued to produce the Spenser novels himself until he died in 2010. Sixkill in 2011 was his last. Then Ace Atkins took over.

Parker's later books after A Catskill Ealeldid not have the force of the earlier ones, and were good fun reads -- but not near-classics of the private eye genre like his first ten or twelve.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:01 AM (omVj0)

247 "The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault." - Jim Butcher, Blood Rites
"On one otherwise normal Tuesday evening I had the chance to live the American dream. I was able to throw my incompetent jackass of a boss from a fourteenth-story window." - Larry Correia, Monster Hunter International

I love the factory stories and think that would be an *excellent* children's series. You have to be careful telling kids stories. I made up one on the fly for a restless toddler, about a momma bear and her cubs finding food, and then heard the dreaded words at the end ... "Again!" And I struggled to remember how I had started the whole mess ...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 05, 2024 11:02 AM (Sebkt)

248 Could be remembering wrong, but I think Parker did something like 40 or 50 Spensers. If you've just finished Pale Kings & Princes, you've got a little ways to go.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 11:03 AM (q3u5l)

249 If you want to see a bunch of REAL college protests, just bring back the Draft.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 11:04 AM (QB+5g)

250 Yes, a Top Ten.
The Production Code ruined the movie, but Cary Grant was perfectly cast.
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024


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What annoyed me was that, in the Eighties, there was a TV version of it, set in the 1930s I think, with Jane Curtin. They could have restored the original ending then, or come up with a better one. But they used the exact same unbelievable ending.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:06 AM (omVj0)

251 My off the shelf was a little book by John McPhee called "The Deltoid Pumpkin Seed" that lead me to read a bunch of his stuff. It showed me that almost anything is interesting if you probe into it deeply enough (and write as well as John McPhee).

Posted by: who knew at May 05, 2024 11:06 AM (4I7VG)

252 If you want to see a bunch of REAL college protests, just bring back the Draft.
Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 11:04 AM (QB+5g)

Hahaha...yup. But draft only those currently attending kollege, working at a kollege or having recently gradiated in the past 36 months.

Hilarious it would be...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 11:06 AM (R/m4+)

253 My 246: I meant to type A Catskill Eagle.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:06 AM (omVj0)

254 180 ... "Yeah. Still not sure what a gasogene is in that Holmes story."

It was old style terms like that that I found fascinating as a very young reader of Sherlock Holmes stories and "Treasure Island". Part of the pleasure I took in LOTR when in junior high was learning the many archaic terms Tolkien used: 'mere' for the landscape, 'fell' beast for the winged Nazgul, and so many others. There was a reason I always appreciated good dictionaries. Aside from the definitions, I can get lost in the etymologies.

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 11:08 AM (zudum)

255 Okay, the TV version of Suspicion w/ Jane Curtin aired on American Playhouse in 1987. Anthony Andrews played Johnnie, the wayward charming husband.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:09 AM (omVj0)

256 "Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment."
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 10:23 AM (dg+HA)

*swwooooooooot*

Foul, Passive voice. 15 yards penalty.


To be fair, it's hard to use the active voice for people who aren't, um, active.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:10 AM (/y8xj)

257 "If you want to see a bunch of REAL college protests, just bring back the Draft."

Oh shit, I forgot "and include women!"

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 11:10 AM (QB+5g)

258 Disagree somewhat Wolfus. I think the one I just finished was no 12. Until Hawk becomes a major character, I found them kind of boring. I just couldn't relate to the Susan Silverman character. So Hawk brought a new character that arrived fully fleshed out with a clear set of morals or maybe immorals. No more dancing around psychology and excessive scenery descriptions. Want more detective story and less ruminating.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 11:10 AM (t/2Uw)

259 One and only book idea:

Mr. S talking about a courthouse (there are lots in TX, we have over 200 counties) mentioned that it was the second. The first had burned down in the '20's from faulty wiring.
My thought: that would be a great way to disguise a murder, if the guy you wanted to murder was a fellow juror.
OR, you're a doctor and he has heart trouble, so you just switch his meds.
Okay, why? Um, he was your wife's former suitor and they had an affair while you were in WWI France.

I had a great murder for the court case, too, but never got any further.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:11 AM (IZjwR)

260 I love the factory stories and think that would be an *excellent* children's series. You have to be careful telling kids stories. I made up one on the fly for a restless toddler, about a momma bear and her cubs finding food, and then heard the dreaded words at the end ... "Again!" And I struggled to remember how I had started the whole mess ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 05, 2024 11:02 AM (Sebkt)


Betty MacDonald (The Egg and I) and her sister Mary Bard Jensen (the Best Friends series), when they were kids, would make up stories about two orphan girls, Nancy and Plum, to bribe the neighbor kids to do their chores for them.
Mary later wrote the Best Friend series around the idea of the stories, and Betty wrote a children's book based around it.
Apparently Betty would tell it as a serial story and would tell a chapter at a time to get the neighbor kids to come back to do more chores later.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 11:11 AM (D7oie)

261 >>> 258 Disagree somewhat Wolfus. I think the one I just finished was no 12. Until Hawk becomes a major character, I found them kind of boring. I just couldn't relate to the Susan Silverman character. So Hawk brought a new character that arrived fully fleshed out with a clear set of morals or maybe immorals. No more dancing around psychology and excessive scenery descriptions. Want more detective story and less ruminating.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 11:10 AM (t/2Uw)

Bigot!

Posted by: cows at May 05, 2024 11:12 AM (llON8)

262 As a post-Boomer it fascinates me to see how Vietnam has been transformed in popular culture. If you go by movies and TV, Richard Nixon started the war and had JFK assassinated for trying to prevent it. LBJ simply doesn't exist at all any more.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 11:12 AM (78a2H)

263 I don't think I've ever found something on a shelf that led me to buy it. I usually knew what I was looking for. If I did, it would be something in the same subject area, not something I'd never thought of.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 11:12 AM (0eaVi)

264 According to this site, https://www.tlbranson.com/spenser-books-in-order/ , Parker himself wrote 39 Spenser novels.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:13 AM (omVj0)

265 I once did a demo of "how to find story ideas" for a high school English class. I asked them to give me three nouns, and they gave me Seattle Seahawks, Spongebob Squarepants, and Paris, thinking it was impossible. And I came up with this convoluted tale involving, at some point, naked football fans and the Cousteau Society and they were amazed Really, once you get some practice it isn't hard. The *ideas* aren't the hard part, it's sitting down and doing the actual writing. Which is the real point of Hemingway's Rule #6. If you are telling people the story, you aren't WRITING it. And the endorphine rush of figuring out how it goes is gone when you do sit down.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 05, 2024 11:13 AM (Sebkt)

266 I'm a big fan of Zelazny but I never got around to the "I am Legion" series for some reason.

Thank you for mentioning it.

I think I'll start on that later today.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 11:14 AM (QB+5g)

267 Not pithy or terse but my favorite opening lines are in the Bulwer-Lytton competition each year. Calculated exaggeration can produce some real hilarity. Try writing some yourself as an exercise in amusing creativity.

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 11:14 AM (zudum)

268 My dad could have used his outs (basically blind in his left eye and son of a state judge) but didn't. Did two tours and spent from '96 to '20 slowly dying of Agent Orange poisoning.
He drew a low draft number and figured if he didn't go somebody else would have to. Local congressman called his dad and offered a page position to him in congress and he refused.

Posted by: Reforger at May 05, 2024 11:14 AM (B705c)

269 On LBJ's Secretary of Defense Robert J. McNamara, from the NYT:

“Mr. McNamara must not escape the lasting moral condemnation of his countrymen. Surely he must in every quiet and prosperous moment hear the ceaseless whispers of those poor boys in the infantry, dying in the tall grass, platoon by platoon, for no purpose. What he took from them cannot be repaid by prime-time apology and stale tears, three decades late.”

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 11:15 AM (dg+HA)

270 LBJ simply doesn't exist at all any more.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 11:12 AM (78a2H)

His remains should be dug up and put on trial for war crimes, lying, rape, armed robbery of citizens, state banks and post offices, the theft of sacred objects, arson in a state prison, perjury, bigamy, deserting his wife and children, inciting prostitution, kidnapping, extortion, receiving stolen goods, selling stolen goods, passing counterfeit money, and, contrary to the laws of many states, using marked cards and rape.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 11:15 AM (R/m4+)

271 Mr. S talking about a courthouse (there are lots in TX, we have over 200 counties) mentioned that it was the second. The first had burned down in the '20's from faulty wiring.
My thought: that would be a great way to disguise a murder, if the guy you wanted to murder was a fellow juror.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:11 AM (IZjwR)


In 1898 the Polk county Oregon courthouse burned down and it was suspected that it was arson done to destroy all the county property tax records. When it was rebuilt a special metal-lined room was built to store the tax records. It later was used as the staff lunchroom.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 11:15 AM (D7oie)

272 The *ideas* aren't the hard part, it's sitting down and doing the actual writing. Which is the real point of Hemingway's Rule #6. If you are telling people the story, you aren't WRITING it. And the endorphine rush of figuring out how it goes is gone when you do sit down.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 05, 2024


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Exactly. Don't talk about the work until the work is done -- or you'll have "told" the story, orally, and will feel little need to write it down.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:16 AM (omVj0)

273 Well, I'm off to start my day. See y'all later, Morons!

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 11:16 AM (78a2H)

274 Want more detective story and less ruminating.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 11:10 AM (t/2Uw)

Bigot!
Posted by: cows

😂

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 11:16 AM (t/2Uw)

275 LBJ simply doesn't exist at all any more.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 11:12 AM (78a2H)

His remains should be dug up and put on trial for war crimes, lying, rape, armed robbery of citizens, state banks and post offices, the theft of sacred objects, arson in a state prison, perjury, bigamy, deserting his wife and children, inciting prostitution, kidnapping, extortion, receiving stolen goods, selling stolen goods, passing counterfeit money, and, contrary to the laws of many states, using marked cards and rape.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024


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Oh, come now, I say. Draw it mild. I mean, "arson in a state prison"? Who among us, dare I say, hasn't done a little of that? Eh, what?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:17 AM (omVj0)

276 Virtue signalling that he's out of touch with reality.

Robert de Niro Compares Donald Trump to Nazi Party Leader Adolf Hitler: “It’s Almost like He Wants to Do the Most Horrible Things That He Can Think Of”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)

277 “Mr. McNamara must not escape the lasting moral condemnation of his countrymen. Surely he must in every quiet and prosperous moment hear the ceaseless whispers of those poor boys in the infantry, dying in the tall grass, platoon by platoon, for no purpose. What he took from them cannot be repaid by prime-time apology and stale tears, three decades late.”
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 11:15 AM (dg+HA)


In 1968 after the election Barry Goldwater publicly called for McNamara to resign for the benefit of the US Military.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 11:18 AM (D7oie)

278 I did not know McDonald and Jensen were related.
I loved the "Best Friends", but I thought there were only two...
Mine could not get enough "Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle" back in the day. I am not a good storyteller, but I was an indefatigable reader-aloud.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:18 AM (IZjwR)

279 This month's Matt Helm award, where the movie doesn't match the book, goes to the BBC series "Killing Eve" based on the "Villanelle" novels by Luke Jennings.
I binge-watched the series on Netflix and enjoyed it, as it was colorful and cheerfully violent. Then I read the books, which were much darker and more serious, but still very good.
The BBC series retained only the bare outline of the book's plot (mild-mannered British intelligence clerk becomes obsessed with a female assassin) and the character names. I'm very glad I watched the TV show first, as otherwise I would have been outraged by the liberties taken.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 05, 2024 11:18 AM (Js20g)

280 It showed me that almost anything is interesting if you probe into it deeply enough (and write as well as John McPhee).

Posted by: who knew at May 05, 2024 11:06 AM (4I7VG)

Couple of years ago, I asked the "Book Horde" for a suggestion for US geology and someone suggested McPhee's "Annals of a Former World"....great writer, great book.

Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2024 11:19 AM (AwYPR)

281 He drew a low draft number and figured if he didn't go somebody else would have to. Local congressman called his dad and offered a page position to him in congress and he refused.

The next scotch I pour (without soda!), I will lift to your dad and mine.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/y8xj)

282 Yes, LBJ doesn't come in for the focus and condemnation he should have. At the time, though, and despite being a D, he was as unpopular, both among citizens *and* with the press, as W. Bush. The press covered for his personal peccadilloes, yes, but went after him for Vietnam.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:19 AM (omVj0)

283 My twin brother went to VietNam, front lines, silver star, bronze star with a V, presidential commendation.

My older brother went to law school--aka deferment.

As they got to the end of their lives, the patterns were very different. My twin brother was a hero all his life. My older brother's life seemed increasingly . . . spindly. And they both acknowledged it.

Life is long.

There's a poem, translated from the Italian, ca turn of the 20th century. The title is roughly The Big No. Not long. That sometimes your generation has a big thing in it, and if you turn your back, even if you're technically in the right, your life will diminish because of it.

Posted by: Wenda at May 05, 2024 11:22 AM (uMV2B)

284 If an 18 year old male wants to vote, he has to first register with the Selective Service. A female, however, simply gets to.

You're welcome.

Posted by: The patriarchy at May 05, 2024 11:23 AM (dg+HA)

285 Google Bans Ad Showing How Life Was Better Under Trump

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Didn't their slogan used to be Don't Be Evil?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 05, 2024 11:24 AM (L/fGl)

286 Hmmm. Just looked up Parker Spenser books in order. I thought he stopped way earlier. The odd thing is the first one I read was Paper Doll which was like his 20th book and why I started reading them in the first place. I picked it up wandering around the iibrary in the mystery section.
I am going to keep on. The library has a pretty good ecollection. Next up Crimson Joy.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 11:24 AM (t/2Uw)

287 Well, the days of rain finally flooded the creeks and our county is cut off for the moment. Can't even drive north or south and circle around. Interesting.

There were people in Texas back then who would vote for LBJ solely because of electrification of rural areas.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:24 AM (IZjwR)

288 I did not know McDonald and Jensen were related.
I loved the "Best Friends", but I thought there were only two...
Mine could not get enough "Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle" back in the day. I am not a good storyteller, but I was an indefatigable reader-aloud.
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:18 AM (IZjwR)


If you get a chance to read Betty MacDonald's book on looking for work in Seattle during the Depression, Anybody Can Do Anything, you will see Mary Bard in full action getting Betty jobs she felt unable to do.

If yoiu read Mary Bard Jensen's book The Doctor Wears Three Faces, about being a newlywed to a young MD in Seattle, you can get an idea of what Mary thought she was doing/

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 11:25 AM (D7oie)

289 Didn't their slogan used to be Don't Be Evil?

Yeah, but it isn't any more, is it? And nobody believed it anyway.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:25 AM (/y8xj)

290 212 On occasion, I've stopped in the middle of a sentence, come back the next day, and still found myself wondering just what the hell I was doing.

Breaks of the game, I guess.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 10:34 AM (q3u5l)



This.
I know exactly ho

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 11:25 AM (W/lyH)

291 I had a great murder for the court case, too, but never got any further.
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:11 AM (IZjwR)

Well, get to it. I'm waiting!

Posted by: The Blank Page at May 05, 2024 11:28 AM (0eaVi)

292 Thank you, kindltot.

That is the one McDonald I haven't read and will find it.
Her portrait of her sister was always engaging.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:28 AM (IZjwR)

293 There were people in Texas back then who would vote for LBJ solely because of electrification of rural areas.
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024


***
The name "Long" carried the same cachet for a long time, thanks to things Huey apparently did that benefited Lousy-ana rural communities.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:28 AM (omVj0)

294 LBJ simply doesn't exist at all any more.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 05, 2024 11:12 AM (78a2H)

Thank goodness!

Posted by: The Beagle at May 05, 2024 11:31 AM (0eaVi)

295 One more thing military service, for a guy who was nudged into enlisting, I did pretty good. 22 years.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2024 11:31 AM (DXbAa)

296 I have a party game called Channel A. There are two decks of cards: one with anime genres, and a bigger one with semi-random words. Two cards from the genre deck are laid out, e.g., Slice of Life and Death Reapers, or Idol Girls and Giant Robots. The players have to choose 2 - 4 word cards from their hands to create a title for the given 2-genre anime series and pitch the concept. Most insane story idea generator known to science! NB: The game has been out of print for a long time, but a PDF with all the cards can be found online and printed for free.

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at May 05, 2024 11:34 AM (SPNTN)

297 The next scotch I pour (without soda!), I will lift to your dad and mine.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:19 AM (/y8xj)

All the posts this week about gasogenes and you're not even going to use one?!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 11:36 AM (0eaVi)

298 295 One more thing about military service. I bet the majority of vets would fall into the category "I shoulda stayed in".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 11:36 AM (V5eKu)

299 Oh, that's right -- today is Cinco de Mayo. And I didn't even have a burrito as part of my breakfast. Oh, well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 11:39 AM (omVj0)

300 Anyone who hasn't read the Screwtape Letters should. The world makes more sense after you do.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2024 11:40 AM (0FoWg)

301 Re: going or not going around 1970.

Just for a chuckle, there's the dedication to P.J. O'Rourke's Give War a Chance.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 11:40 AM (q3u5l)

302 McNamara comes off as a know it all idiot in Mark Moyar's books. He wasn't a military man running a war with no idea how to fight a war.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 11:41 AM (fwDg9)

303 Just read The Waltham Murders by Susan Clare Zalkind. It's about the three men killed by Tamerlan Tsarnaev 18 months before the Boston Marathon bombing. The case was originally downplayed as just a case of drug dealers bumping each other off. But after the Marathon attack, Tsarnaev emerged as the key suspect. The book is interesting and based on sound reporting, but the story still has lots of loose ends. Was there a bigger terror network, and was law enforcement covering up for them?

Posted by: Linnet at May 05, 2024 11:42 AM (jiACL)

304 "Don't see the book you want on the shelf? Write it."

~ Beverly Cleary

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 11:44 AM (dg+HA)

305 302 McNamara, during his military career, was an actuary.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 11:44 AM (V5eKu)

306 McNamara comes off as a know it all idiot in Mark Moyar's books. He wasn't a military man running a war with no idea how to fight a war.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 11:41 AM (fwDg9)

bean counter

Posted by: BignJames at May 05, 2024 11:44 AM (AwYPR)

307 Since 2020, I've become much more attuned to spiritual things, and while it gives me greater clarity on what is going on in the world, explaining it can be difficult, particularly to people who have shut themselves off from the very possibility of there being anything other than a secular, materialist world.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I agree with you on this

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 05, 2024 11:45 AM (n/1xr)

308 Well, it's been a gas, but reality beckons.

Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 11:46 AM (q3u5l)

309 All the posts this week about gasogenes and you're not even going to use one?!

Perhaps you missed my previous comments about the Brits and scotch. Still, I must admit that the possibility of explosion makes it sound more interesting.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:50 AM (/y8xj)

310 302 McNamara, during his military career, was an actuary.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 05, 2024 11:44 AM (V5eKu)

I read that as "was an ashtray"

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 11:50 AM (T4tVD)

311 300 Anyone who hasn't read the Screwtape Letters should. The world makes more sense after you do.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2024 11:40 AM (0FoWg)

When "A Severe Mercy" by Sheldon Vanauken was published back in the '70s, a selling point was that it contained a number of unpublished letters by Lewis.
He had been instrumental in the conversion of the author and his wife.
Vanauken's book went on to become a classic in it's own right, and the Lewis connection was dropped. But the letters are still wonderful.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 11:51 AM (IZjwR)

312 Sam Peckinpah was a bean counter. He fired someone from The Wild Bunch because the number of beans on a plate was different from one day of shooting to another in the same scene.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 11:51 AM (0eaVi)

313 307 Since 2020, I've become much more attuned to spiritual things, and while it gives me greater clarity on what is going on in the world, explaining it can be difficult, particularly to people who have shut themselves off from the very possibility of there being anything other than a secular, materialist world.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I agree with you on this
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

I have been strongly influenced by the writing of John Eldredge starting in 2008 with Wild At Heart and Fathered By God in addition to a number of his others works.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 05, 2024 11:51 AM (dg+HA)

314 I read that as "was an ashtray"

Actuary, ashtray, asshoe, whatever.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:52 AM (/y8xj)

315 Perhaps you missed my previous comments about the Brits and scotch. Still, I must admit that the possibility of explosion makes it sound more interesting.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 05, 2024 11:50 AM (/y8xj)

Saw it, but you just have to follow the meme....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 11:52 AM (0eaVi)

316 Want more detective story and less ruminating.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2024 11:10 AM


Just because one cud, doesn't mean one should be an anti-Ungulateite

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 05, 2024 11:52 AM (a3Q+t)

317 The first book I remember buying strictly because of the cover was one of the Conan books with the Frazetta cover, maybe mid-60s. That led to a lifelong love of Robert E. Howard's writing and Frazetta's art. Some things are just meant to be.

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 11:58 AM (zudum)

318 Most insane story idea generator known to science! NB: The game has been out of print for a long time, but a PDF with all the cards can be found online and printed for free.
Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at May 05, 2024 11:34 AM (SPNTN)


worse than a tank-full of manatees?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2024 12:00 PM (D7oie)

319 "That amiable youth, Jimmy Thesiger, came down the front stairs of Chimneys two at a time." -- Agatha Christie, The Seven Dials Mystery

I would definitely recommend reading at least Mere Christianity (probably also Surprised by Joy, maybe "The Weight of Glory" and "Learning in War-time") before tackling The Screwtape Letters. It helps to know what CSL's actual theology was before looking at the "upside-down thinking" he used to write from Screwtape's POV, which troubled him so much that he refused to write a full-length sequel.

On a related Lewisian note, contrast the opening line of The Voyage of the Dawn Treader that Eris quoted earlier with Eustace's introduction in The Silver Chair: "His name was Eustace Clarence Scrubb, but he didn't really deserve it." It's a subtle way of underscoring just how much Eustace's first trip to Narnia, particularly his undragoning, genuinely changed him. (Mind you, Eustace's parents were the '30s equivalent of hippies, so he had much more going against him than just his name!)

(I seem to be hitting a character limit--continuing shortly...)

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at May 05, 2024 12:01 PM (LLJRz)

320 Tolkien makes his first appearanc in th sixth paradraph of the Original Post.

*********

Always beet the "Under"

ALWAYS!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:01 PM (l4B/J)

321 Thanks once again to the Perfessor and all of you grand book people for a great Book Thread!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 12:03 PM (omVj0)

322 I'm very glad I watched the TV show first, as otherwise I would have been outraged by the liberties taken.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 05, 2024 11:18 AM (Js20g)

I enjoyed the series for the most part, except for the ending. Then there is Jodie Comer.

Posted by: javems at May 05, 2024 12:03 PM (8I4hW)

323 What?! The end of the Book Thread again? Thanks, Perfessor. Things to do, places to go, and people to see.

Wait a min. Sounds like a trilogy in the making!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 12:04 PM (0eaVi)

324 Posted a first draft on ALH, if anyone's interested.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 12:06 PM (0eaVi)

325 We Haz A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:06 PM (fwDg9)

326 Noodus CBD

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 12:06 PM (omVj0)

327 I started reading The Screwtape Letters but didn't finish, they are downloaded on my tablet

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 12:08 PM (fwDg9)

328 Re: Old Yeller (though a bit of a tangent): Fred Gipson was from Mason, Texas, and the Mason Public Library has a statue of Old Yeller and his boy out front. Last month, some wag put eclipse glasses on both of them!

Can't really say I disagree with the comments about A Distant Mirror, but I encountered it as an audiobook (research for the "Crises of the Fourteenth Century" chapter in The Curious Historian 3B) and tuned out a lot of that sort of thing as I was listening. Part of the problem for me was that she spent so much of the book following the travails of one particular French nobleman--I could sort of see why, but at the same time, I really wasn't interested in his story except at the points where it reflected or affected the larger history of the Hundred Years' War. I think I did a lot of fast forwarding.

Okay, now to catch up on the comments again....

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at May 05, 2024 12:12 PM (LLJRz)

329 "On the morning of October 2, 2008 seventy-seven year old Reverend Jack Nels Gordon disappeared from the face of the Earth."

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:12 PM (l4B/J)

330 The mimosa moshpit:
nypost.com/2024/05/04/us-news/ readers-take-denver- likened-to-fyre-festival-of-books/

Posted by: Readers Take Denver at May 05, 2024 12:31 PM (gKWVE)

331 To be fair, it's hard to use the active voice for people who aren't, um, active.

Mary Jo Kopechne drowned in the back seat at the same moment the driver woke up in bed in his Chappaquiddick Island townhouse.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 05, 2024 01:00 PM (EXyHK)

332 The library would be a great cover for Jasper Fforde's Tuesday Next novel, "The Well of Lost Plots."

Posted by: March Hare at May 05, 2024 01:08 PM (jfX+U)

333 I have several of the "Tuesday Next" books on the shelves somewhere and should reread them. I recall I enjoyed them at the time.

Posted by: JTB at May 05, 2024 01:48 PM (zudum)

334 Few can top Donald Hamilton for opening sentences and paragraphs that keep you reading.
"I always feel guilty about smuggling a gun through Mexican customs."
I know I've mentioned this many times. I should go through the Matt Helm books for fresh examples. I also have other Hamilton books, yet unread. I'd bet their opening sentences are grabbers, too.
Posted by: Weak Geek
--------
He wrote a bunch of Westerns too, but I don't think the opening of _Texas Fever_ meets this criteria.
"This was the summer of the year 1867, the third summer of peace---the third summer in which Texas men, civilians again in a land impoverished by war, had been free to drive their half-wild cattle up the long trail, known as the Shawnee Trail, that led from far below the Brazos all the way to Baxter Springs in Kansas and on up to the railroad at Sedalia, Missouri. "
Declarative, yes. Informative, definitely. But simple? Nope.
It still works, though.

I mentioned last week that I had moved my D.H. books from the box they've resided in since our move to AZ onto the new bookshelves. This last week I rescued all 41 of my collection of R.A.H. paperbacks from similar ignominy and now reside there as wel

Posted by: buddhaha at May 05, 2024 02:15 PM (Lb+Qv)

335 There's a collection of his early short work called The Magic, which includes some of his best early stories. Well worth a look even if you can't stand the Amber series. For novels, try This Immortal, The Dream Master, Lord of Light, and Isle of the Dead.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 09:57 AM (q3u5l)
*******************************************

There's a six volume Collected Stories of Roger Zelazny that was something of a labor of love for the three people who edited it. Well worth it for any fans of his work.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at May 05, 2024 03:23 PM (NgOaM)

336 335 -- That six volume Zelazny set is lovely indeed. NESFA still has it available in hardcover, and recently issued an ebook edition as well. Grabbed it immediately in both formats.

Thanks.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 05, 2024 03:32 PM (q3u5l)

337 "...
This makes no sense. These were anti war protests because college students were being drafted.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice
...."
A liitle more complicated than that. Student Deferments (I believe they were "1S") were not discontinued until September of 1971. Kent State shootings occurred in May of '70. Even after September, students with deferments kept them until graduation.
The problem was with the conditions; you had to be a full time student (a minimum number of credit-hours each semester(quarter, trimester) and be on course for graduation (min 2.0 GPA). This eliminated the semester off, the slacker, and especially, the professional student who took a course or so in all sorts of lower level disciplines- who were over represented among the anti-war leadership.
The rest were the followers- the just-for-the-hell-of-its, the belongers, the excitement seekers- the same crew we see today, and the same type we see in NBA Championship riots.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 05, 2024 03:33 PM (X60Ah)

338 College students should have been drafted from the start.

But no, nobody wanted to go. I'm sure nobody wants to die for Ukraine, but should there be a draft, children of military contractors and legislators should all be sent on the first wave.

Posted by: GOP sux at May 05, 2024 03:47 PM (Zzbjj)

339 "Meh. It was OK, but not great. By the time I got to the end, I really didn't care about the characters or the story."

Noted.

Posted by: Wintermute at May 05, 2024 04:38 PM (hKYdW)

340 "An instant before, she had been alive."

-- another opening sentence

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 05, 2024 04:44 PM (p/isN)

EMT 5/5/24

Happy Sunday.

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1 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:54 AM (fwDg9)

2 top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 05:58 AM (omVj0)

3 Evening and morning to all the early Sunday risers and later weekend toilers! I slept okay, with the help of a single cold pill -- thus no coughing -- and I plan to work out gently this morning. With 74 F. and 90% humidity, I'm not looking forward to it.

How's thy Sunday looking?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 05:59 AM (omVj0)

4 Lots o' rain here this morn.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at May 05, 2024 06:00 AM (DsA2n)

5 Looking like rain chance every day this week but maybe Tuesday

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:00 AM (fwDg9)

6 Got a Randolph Scott marathon on Grit today. What is supposed to be his best film, and a really good film overall, Ride the High Country, is on the channel at 7 a.m. Central.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 06:02 AM (omVj0)

7 Good morning again dear horde

A joyous Easter to the Orthodox morons.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 06:03 AM (RIvkX)

8 In other news, Miss Linda is decidedly un-thrilled at the idea of my retiring this month, and won't discuss the move-and-buy-a-house scenario unless I force it. She has never been excited about the idea when I showed her nice houses on Realtor in Evansville and environs.

Instead of being excited about my "new chapter," as the cliche has it, I'm finding myself a little depressed (along with the usual seasonal "down" I feel when the nasty humid heat closes in). Blah.

I know I can't drag her along and don't want to -- and don't have the energy for it anyway. But doing it all myself? I didn't envision this. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 06:04 AM (omVj0)

9 Really should make breakfast before it's time for lunch

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:04 AM (fwDg9)

10 Wolfus, it doesn't sound like Miss Linda is onboard with the plan you should find out why.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 06:05 AM (RIvkX)

11 At least the ads don't block Post now

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:05 AM (fwDg9)

12
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 05, 2024 06:10 AM (tljrc)

13 Good morning! Currently 64 out on the patio here in Cowtown with the humidity at about 97%. Tried to use some simple green cleaner on the brick in front patio alcove to remove some mud dobber nests and all I did was make some grey stains. Looks like I'll need to rent a power washer. On the good news front, I have sourced a local lumber yard with really nice cedar lumber at a very reasonable price and found a highly recommended, local handyman who does carpentry. Once I get the alcove cleaned up, that space and the back patio are gonna get a cedar tongue and groove ceiling.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 06:14 AM (YRsIm)

14 Happy Sunday

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 06:15 AM (ENQN6)

15 I have sourced a local lumber yard with really nice cedar lumber at a very reasonable price

I can only take this as convincing evidence that aliens have landed. I bought gold at 290, and still muse that I could have just picked up thick split shingles instead and done even better.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 05, 2024 06:21 AM (zdLoL)

16 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 06:23 AM (T4tVD)

17 It ain't warm out thar.

And that's today's accu-weather.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 06:24 AM (T4tVD)

18
Looks like I'll need to rent a power washer.

I need one so often I bought one at Aldi's for a little more then a hundred bucks. It's not as powerful as commercial grade but it gets the job done.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 06:26 AM (RKVpM)

19 Morning, Early Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2024 06:28 AM (86W+h)

20 All you Magyar morons will want to see Tucker's interview of Balasz Orban.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

21 Hiya Krak !

And Thank You !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 06:32 AM (T4tVD)

22 18 >>> That Portland model?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 06:34 AM (YRsIm)

23 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 06:36 AM (Be/+i)

24 Had some excitement in the back yard this AM.

First, as I was putting out the bird feeders a large bird flew away. It was still mostly dark. My guess is that an owl swooped in silently but made noise taking off.

Second, we appear to have a pair of possum living under our deck.

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2024 06:36 AM (86W+h)

25 Second, we appear to have a pair of possum living under our deck.
Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2024 06:36 AM (86W+h)
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I thought possums lived in 'simmon trees.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 06:38 AM (Be/+i)

26 I had a possum be-bopping around out thar the last two morning well after daylight.

Musta fergot to set his watch.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 06:39 AM (T4tVD)

27 Good afternoon from northern Israel - but not too north.

Hizballah fired all around our northern border area about 30 minutes ago. About 20 missiles landed in the now-ghost-town Kiyat Shemonah, with some building being hit.

I'm guessing that this was a response to something Israel targeted in Lebanon about an hour ago. No word yet what we were aiming at.

In the meantime, Israel huffs and puffs and threatens to blow Rafiah down but does no such thing. And Israel's Gaza envelope communities continue to receive a volley here and there from Hamas.

To those of you analysts here who thought that Israel was doing a great job, I hate to say I told you so but I told you so.

Time for a late lunch with Mrs. BD.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2024 06:40 AM (NMFQ7)

28 For hand me down tools, got my dad's power washer, been waiting for some warm days to use it

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:45 AM (fwDg9)

29 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2024 06:40 AM (NMFQ7)
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Thanks for checking in

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 06:51 AM (RIvkX)

30 Mark Hamill obviously drunk at the White House podium Friday. Pathetic.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 06:52 AM (RIvkX)

31 At the George Washington University Gaza Solidarity Encampment today, the protesters held a "People's Tribunal" where they put President Ellen Granberg, Provost Christopher Bracey, the Board of Trustees,
@GWPolice , and many others on trial.

Can anyone guess what the sentences are?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 06:54 AM (ENQN6)

32
For hand me down tools, got my dad's power washer, been waiting for some warm days to use it

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 06:45 AM


Always wear foot protection. Hot weather may make it tempting to go barefoot but one slip... and very bad things happen.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 06:55 AM (RKVpM)

33 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2024 06:57 AM (SHAib)

34 Texas Democrat Rep. Henry Cuellar Charged With Accepting Massive Bribes From Azerbaijan

He just got caught. What about the other 400?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 06:57 AM (ENQN6)

35 Hiya Cap'n !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 06:59 AM (T4tVD)

36 Cuellar stepped out of line on border security and is not being subjected to enforcement action by the junta.

Taking the bribes is not a crime. Going against the Party is the crime.

Totally Soviet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 07:00 AM (RIvkX)

37 Can anyone guess what the sentences are?
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 06:54 AM (ENQN6)
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Death? Just spitballing, here.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 07:01 AM (Be/+i)

38 Mornin'

Nuts, missed the Tech Thread. Got busy the last hour of work.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 05, 2024 07:01 AM (sAmhv)

39 *now being subjected

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 07:03 AM (RIvkX)

40 Mark Hamill obviously drunk at the White House podium Friday. Pathetic.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
---------------

Ha. That's what I thought when I watched a clip of it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 07:03 AM (ju2Fy)

41 Death? Just spitballing, here.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 07:01 AM (Be/+i)

Judges would have accepted guillotine.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 07:04 AM (ENQN6)

42
BREAKING REPORT:⚠️ Former NBA player Darius Morris dies aged 33..

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 07:08 AM (RKVpM)

43 >>> I thought possums lived in 'simmon trees.

None available. They have to make do.

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2024 07:08 AM (86W+h)

44 Byeee...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 05, 2024 07:10 AM (Be/+i)

45 Yes, by the time you have a power washer powerful enough to really do the job, you also have a tool that can hurt you or permanently etch concrete or stucco. Some of the pumps are not all they should be. After one rebuild, I 're-engineered' one unit to accept an improved pump. No money was saved.

There's a cheapo lame excuse, a spray tip with extension tube and shutoff valve, that goes for around $20. Noted, lots of use of the shutoff can cause the joinery of the tube to part, so go easy on that, but, for most spray and wash work, it does the same job as a pressure washer for a fraction. Particularly good for chasing soil and weeds out of parking slab joints.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 05, 2024 07:10 AM (zdLoL)

46 Fake Vax anyone?

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 07:10 AM (fwDg9)

47 Fake Vax anyone?
Posted by: Skip

No thank you !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 07:12 AM (T4tVD)

48 @46 the Harry Lyme shot?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 05, 2024 07:12 AM (zdLoL)

49 The guy who relieved me at work this morning got to talking politics. Nice guy and he shows up on time, so I like him. Of course, he's slightly to the right of Stalin. We have polar opposite world views. He also has a loud, bellowing voice. I hate when I'm responding to a point and can't finish a sentence because he's just louder than me. It's a tactic to prevent someone from opposing a viewpoint. I hate that. I blame cable newz. Should have started talking about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and tell him about the love of God. Politics is a religion in Babylon DC so I should respond accordingly. Missed my moment. I pray I will do better next time and pray for a next time.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 05, 2024 07:13 AM (sAmhv)

50 6 Got a Randolph Scott marathon on Grit today. What is supposed to be his best film, and a really good film overall, Ride the High Country, is on the channel at 7 a.m. Central.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 06:02 AM (omVj0)


I always enjoy The Tall T, which is a rather unusual western starring Scott. For a change of pace, you could try the screwball comedy My Favorite Wife, where Scott plays a supporting role to his real life buddy Cary Grant.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 05, 2024 07:16 AM (pVqA1)

51 Guy buys an EV motorcycle that is roughly equivalent to the Honda Trail 125 with a few exceptions. It cost 50% more, has 1/3 the range, and refueling takes about 5 hours as opposed to about 5 m. Another key difference is the Honda doesn't catch fire in its first 3 mi. The best quote in the video is it's not on fire, It's overheating. The good part starts at 9 minutes.

https://youtu.be/wxr1iXEf9lY

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 07:17 AM (hqGCh)

52 There is a new bird at the feeder this morning, singing loud and proud. Have to get my birdsong app fired up and figure out what it is.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 07:21 AM (YRsIm)

53 Wolfus, it doesn't sound like Miss Linda is onboard with the plan you should find out why.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024


***
If only she would tell me! The closest things I've heard are "I'm content here" (not "happy," you'll notice) and "I don't know anything about Indiana."

"That'll be part of the fun," I replied, "learning about someplace new."

*Silence*

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:21 AM (omVj0)

54 I always enjoy The Tall T, which is a rather unusual western starring Scott. For a change of pace, you could try the screwball comedy My Favorite Wife, where Scott plays a supporting role to his real life buddy Cary Grant.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 05, 2024


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I think I've seen the latter, or part of it. Scott looks so . . . odd . . . in a suit and tie, though nowhere near as weird as Grant would have looked in a Western. It says quite a bit about Scott's ability as an actor that he could move between genres like that (though he didn't do it much, did he?).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:23 AM (omVj0)

55 The weather these next few days.

https://tinyurl.com/2mbv5euk

Posted by: Ciampino - Ouch! Nasty at May 05, 2024 07:25 AM (qfLjt)

56 Wolfus, have you taken her there to visit during your scouting trip(s)?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 07:25 AM (YRsIm)

57 Randolph Scott!

https://youtu.be/SGYoChoijvY?si=IZCmI3sFEnHEgfN7

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 05, 2024 07:26 AM (sAmhv)

58 Morning peeps

Hope the yard dries out. Rain is again forecast for everyday of the week except today and I need to mow the grass.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 07:28 AM (Q4IgG)

59 Wolfus, have you taken her there to visit during your scouting trip(s)?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024


***
Unfortunately I haven't done a scouting trip yet. If I'd retired in late March, I'd have driven us up there in April. Early June won't be as pleasant -- at least not near here. I'm praying June weather is not as debilitating in southern IN.

I'll ask if she'll come along. Though I can predict right now what the answer will be: "I don't know."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:29 AM (omVj0)

60 Six states—New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Wyoming, North Dakota and Idaho—get a pass from the transparency obligation.

Why does these states get to hide the voter registration from the public as required by the Motor Voter Act of 1993?

Because the cheating is so bad it would scare the shit out of people.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 07:29 AM (ENQN6)

61 “The Tall T” has been playing on Encore Westerns regularly for a month now. I saw it for the first time a few weeks back and have watched it a few more times since then.

While the story is simple and quite compelling the acting is really great.

Richard Boone as the head bad guy is absolutely superb. If he didn’t get an Oscar nomination and the win for that role, he certainly should have.

My favorite bit is his laughing at Randolph Scott’s tripping and falling down during one scene. His laughter seemed so genuine it’s unreal. I imagine crying and laughing in a convincing way are two of the hardest things for an actor to do, but what do I know?

Posted by: IWatchedThat at May 05, 2024 07:31 AM (6ydKt)

62 Well, I'm tired. Off to bed.

Lots of rain the next few days. Good sleep weather.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 05, 2024 07:33 AM (sAmhv)

63 Morning all. In Boston for work. Saw three young things, dressed as young things are these days, including "Palestinian" kaffiyehs as stylish shawls. Of course, they were also in tight tops and yoga pants, and I noted the irony, which of course they would have been oblivious to: had they tried to wear those outfits in Gaza or West Bank, where I used to live and work, they would have had a rather unpleasant experience.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 05, 2024 07:34 AM (+U9h6)

64 Several things I am grateful for :

The lovely pink dogwood tree I saw while a passenger in a car.

Big Blue Heron I saw in the skies overhead.

Get to worship later and have communion with some people whom I love.

Yesterday, while walking I saw a man whom I said "Good morning, Sir" to and he responded, "May your day be blessed."

Nice to have son at home-(He had to identify some trees in our yard for a class he's talking) for a couple of days before he goes back to school.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 07:35 AM (XkYcA)

65 I'll ask if she'll come along. Though I can predict right now what the answer will be: "I don't know."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:29 AM (omVj0)
===

Me: let's go out for dinner, anywhere you like. Where would you like to go?
Mrs. F.: Ok, where would you like to go?
Me: *slow burn* how about x?
Mrs. F.: no
Me: *slow burn* how about y?
Mrs. F.: no
*makes PB&J*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 07:37 AM (RIvkX)

66
Former Florida State quarterback Marcus Outzen has passed away after a short battle with a rare immune deficiency disorder. He was only 46.

Camp Lejeune water, mesothelioma, or something I guess.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 07:39 AM (RKVpM)

67 Jack Smith Admits FBI Messed with Boxes Containing “Classified” Documents They Seized from Trump

I guess the fake red and orange folders were fake after all.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 07:42 AM (ENQN6)

68 Me: let's go out for dinner, anywhere you like. Where would you like to go?
Mrs. F.: Ok, where would you like to go?
Me: *slow burn* how about x?
Mrs. F.: no
Me: *slow burn* how about y?
Mrs. F.: no
*makes PB&J*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024


***
Exactly. Or we end up going to one of our 3 or 4 favorite places . . . and a few months later during another "discussion" I find that she hates going to at least one of them, but she never told me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:42 AM (omVj0)

69 Off to feed and wash the car, and scoop up supplies at W-Mart. I'll be back for the Book Thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:43 AM (omVj0)

70 Another key difference is the Honda doesn't catch fire in its first 3 mi. The best quote in the video is it's not on fire, It's overheating. The good part starts at 9 minutes.
https://youtu.be/wxr1iXEf9lY
Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 07:17 AM (hqGCh)

Hahahaha...dumb yankee has to buy it because he is a dummy. EV's are dangerous, bad for the environment and are produced by slave labor from Red China.

No wonder the democrats love them.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 07:45 AM (R/m4+)

71 Saw three young things, dressed as young things are these days, including "Palestinian" kaffiyehs as stylish shawls.

Might have had an epiphany yesterday, talking with the crew about just how stupid everything is. Are we living in the exception, or the rule ?

Society was batshit crazy in the Roaring 20s. The Depression and WW II cured that for a while. By the 60s - everything off the rails again. A very slight correction during Reagan - another short one after 9/11. Other than that ? A pretty consistent trend into madness.

We'll get the immediate "because we need God" here -but I don't give a shit about the Why. The What, to me, seems pretty in focus. America is exceptional, all right. Exceptionally out of our collective minds, and absolutely willfully naive in ignoring that its been so for several generations.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 07:49 AM (pTv5j)

72 My wife and I resolved the "where do you want to go" ordeal by not going out anymore. I don't think either of us misses it much.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 07:49 AM (Q4IgG)

73 66
Former Florida State quarterback Marcus Outzen has passed away after a short battle with a rare immune deficiency disorder. He was only 46.

Camp Lejeune water, mesothelioma, or something I guess.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 07:39 AM (RKVpM)

I think the nano particle that carries the mRNA causes strange cell penetration that leads to growths.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 07:50 AM (ENQN6)

74 I find that she hates going to at least one of them, but she never told me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

-

And she won't admit it but she thinks slightly less of you for taking her there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 07:50 AM (3fSZZ)

75 The 6 states you mentioned get a pass because -at one time- they were essentially all white, so now cheating could take place based on race.
On political affiliation? Sure, but that's the kind of cheating we permit.

Posted by: Wally at May 05, 2024 07:52 AM (EyElY)

76 I think Huckabee-Sanders will be unavailable for the VP pick. I think Trump will go with Tulsi Gabbard.
She has a book out and a piece in Newsweek this morning.
My hunch

Posted by: Redenzo at May 05, 2024 07:53 AM (XyOpH)

77 As you go through life with success as your goal
Remember to stay focused on the donut and not the hole
Good morning to one and all

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 07:55 AM (mKjJV)

78 BREAKING REPORT:⚠️ Former NBA player Darius Morris dies aged 33..
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 07:08 AM (RKVpM)"

Another grim milestone for the Biden administration!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 05, 2024 07:56 AM (S6gqv)

79 A 125 dirt ebike doing 48mph on the road? I’ve literally no idea how those things are set up; sprockets etc., and is he riding into a headwind?

And the rider looks like he weighs at least 180?


A 125cc gas powered dirt bike geared for off-road use and a fat guy whipping it at 50mph - it would shrapnel.

Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2024 07:57 AM (5dsPO)

80 mornin yall. Now Teslas are trying to kill people:

"Tesla owner left horrified after getting stuck in her car as temperature hits 103 degrees when she tried to update its software in Chick-fil-A parking lot"

Wait until they put AI in these things and your car decides it doesn't like you. Or the CIA decides to keep you in your car for a couple of hours in 100 degree heat.

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2024 07:57 AM (CM7e9)

81 Randolph Scott marathon on Grit today. What is supposed to be his best film, and a really good film overall, Ride the High Country, is on the channel at 7 a.m. Central.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Randolph Scott!?

*stands up, removes hat*

Good morning you good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 07:58 AM (WXNFJ)

82 I will be much less enthusiastic about voting for Trump if Tulsi is involved. She is a grifter beginning to end.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 07:58 AM (RIvkX)

83 Looks like they've got a top speed of 60-65mph and cost $6K+

https://www.tobebike.com/

What a bargain!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 07:59 AM (3fSZZ)

84 76 I think Huckabee-Sanders will be unavailable for the VP pick. I think Trump will go with Tulsi Gabbard.
She has a book out and a piece in Newsweek this morning.
My hunch
Posted by: Redenzo at May 05, 2024 07:53 AM (XyOpH)

She is a hard core progressive.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 07:59 AM (ENQN6)

85 "Tesla owner left horrified after getting stuck in her car as temperature hits 103 degrees when she tried to update its software in Chick-fil-A parking lot"


The possible winner for next year's Bulwer Lytton Fiction Contest?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 08:00 AM (WXNFJ)

86 Nice to hear from you Biden's Dog, been a while. I was one who had thought Israel was doing well, and it had been until Feb 1. Since then it's all gone to shit - and now Egypt, Turkey, and Iran are on the verge of signing an anti-Israel alliance. Iranian reps in Cairo this weekend, all countries now have contempt for US.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 05, 2024 08:00 AM (S6gqv)

87 Ugh. What was she doing at a Chick-Fil-A?

- Other EV owners

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:00 AM (3fSZZ)

88 As you go through life with success as your goal
Remember to stay focused on the donut and not the hole
Good morning to one and all
Posted by: Ben Had

"Burma Shave"

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 08:00 AM (WXNFJ)

89 Good morning, everybody.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2024 08:01 AM (mH6SG)

90 Oh! Gotta run to Mass.

Stay sane you all!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2024 08:01 AM (WXNFJ)

91 Tulsi Gabbard has no constituency. Interesting person, terrible pick for VP. She brings no votes and probably loses some.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 05, 2024 08:03 AM (S6gqv)

92 I will be much less enthusiastic about voting for Trump if Tulsi is involved. She is a grifter beginning to end.

At least she's not UniParty. Maybe the short fingered vulgarian managed to learn something after all.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 08:03 AM (pTv5j)

93 In the meantime, Israel huffs and puffs and threatens to blow Rafiah down but does no such thing.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2024 06:40 AM (NMFQ7)

Is the English translation Rafah or Rafiah? Because I've been hearing Rafah for the last few months.

Posted by: pookysgirl, not Hebrew enough at May 05, 2024 08:03 AM (dtlDP)

94 If DeSantis also loses to Tulsi that's going to be... Less than ideal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:04 AM (3fSZZ)

95 Air Force making gains in artificial intelligence with AI-piloted F-16 flight

Skynet

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:04 AM (ENQN6)

96 The ceasefire deal is all over the map. Last check said that Israel had not sent a delegation to the negotiations.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 08:06 AM (mKjJV)

97 About Trump's potential VP....

I recall that his early administration was dotted with a number of lookers. Most turned out to be nuts or incompetent or both. I believe Trump himself tapped them for whatever position they were put in.

A couple of the women who've been suggested as possible VP candidates fit this mold. If Trump is choosing I think this checks out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 08:08 AM (Q4IgG)

98 Wolfus, being a bit of a jerk and a butinski here but maybe the lady isn't so keen on relocating because you have left her out of the decision making process.

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 08:09 AM (QB+5g)

99 94
DeSantis is in Florida, same as Trump. Doesn't go as P and VP have to be from different States.

Posted by: Ciampino - Bewbs? at May 05, 2024 08:09 AM (qfLjt)

100 At least she's not UniParty.

-

Tulsi is absolutely 100% uniparty. She is literally the federal example of what people everywhere are seeing at their local (R) breakfasts and political meetings.

"I left my party in 2021 and now what can I do to take over yours?"

She ran for president in 2020 with specific and clear platforms.

"As a candidate in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, Gabbard's political positions were broadly similar to those of contenders on health care, climate, education, infrastructure, and criminal justice reform,"

https://tinyurl.com/yxvd7g3f

(scroll down to read the specifics like "renewable" energy and gun bans)

Those haven't changed. What has changed is where she/they are trying to get the seeds rooted to destroy the foundation of the building.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:10 AM (3fSZZ)

101 Tulsi is has a nice speaking voice and is easy to listen to. Easy on the eyes too. I don't trust her at all.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2024 08:10 AM (YRsIm)

102 DeSantis is in Florida, same as Trump. Doesn't go as P and VP have to be from different States.
Posted by: Ciampino

-

Yes, and you're making my point for me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:11 AM (3fSZZ)

103 Those haven't changed. What has changed is where she/they are trying to get the seeds rooted to destroy the foundation of the building.

Then the jokes on them. Because its already rotten to the core.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 08:12 AM (pTv5j)

104 Several things I am grateful for :

The lovely pink dogwood tree I saw while a passenger in a car.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 07:35 AM (XkYcA)

How fast was the dogwood tree going ?

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 08:12 AM (T4tVD)

105 In the meantime, Israel huffs and puffs and threatens to blow Rafiah down but does no such thing.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2024 06:40 AM (NMFQ7)

Is the English translation Rafah or Rafiah? Because I've been hearing Rafah for the last few months.
Posted by: pookysgirl, not Hebrew enough at May 05, 2024 08:03 AM (dtlDP)
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Pronounced Rafiach (guttural "ch") in Hebrew.

Completely idiotic situation here, both north and south.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2024 08:12 AM (NMFQ7)

106 If the climatistas were truly concerned with the planet, they would nag the countries that are increasing emissions. But those aren’t developed Western nations, so they get a pass. This gives the game away. Climate hysteria is not about stopping some imagined warming, it’s about choking capitalism, punishing wealthy societies, and establishing a socialist-collectivist governance model.

the whole thing

https://tinyurl.com/42fh34d8

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:14 AM (ENQN6)

107 As you go through life with success as your goal
Remember to stay focused on the donut and not the hole
Good morning to one and all
Posted by: Ben Had

I'm eating a donut right now !

Hiya BenHad !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 08:14 AM (T4tVD)

108
Ugly weather north of here this morning. I elected in the interest of safety not to go to Mass at my usual parish, which is northwest of Houston about 50 minutes away. I'll have to attend a NO Mass locally.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 05, 2024 08:14 AM (MoZTd)

109 Then the jokes on them. Because its already rotten to the core.

-

At the federal level absolutely. At the state level it's here and there, mostly because of the federal influence. At the local level actual conservatives and conservative ideas exist freely and with a great deal of support.

That's what they're organizing to destroy. Tulsi is just the federal face of the same organized push.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:15 AM (3fSZZ)

110 Climate hysteria is not about stopping some imagined warming, it’s about choking capitalism, punishing wealthy societies, and establishing a socialist-collectivist governance model.

Yep. Watermelons. Doesn't explain why wealthy whites are so onboard - other than idiotic guilt.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 08:16 AM (pTv5j)

111 Morning all. I've been marinating lamb chops overnight. Gonna put them on the smoker for lunch.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 05, 2024 08:16 AM (ER9HB)

112 I'm glad to hear that China has signed on to eliminating all coal fired power plants by 2035.

Posted by: Guy who heard wrong at May 05, 2024 08:17 AM (CM7e9)

113 Oh, yes. Another thing to make me thankful. I plan to read no news today.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 08:17 AM (XkYcA)

114 I will be watching Chloë Grace Moretz vs WWII air gremlins today.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 05, 2024 08:17 AM (lhenN)

115 > If the climatistas were truly concerned with the planet, they would nag the countries that are increasing emissions immolate themselves.
______

If they were "really serious" about saving erf.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 08:17 AM (Q4IgG)

116 Good Sunday morning, dear Horde.

Posted by: Ladyl at May 05, 2024 08:19 AM (+4oV5)

117 112 I'm glad to hear that China has signed on to eliminating all coal fired power plants by 2035.
Posted by: Guy who heard wrong at May 05, 2024 08:17 AM (CM7e9)

Do not play the per capita game. China has double or maybe treble our emissions but almost 5X peeps so it looks better.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:19 AM (ENQN6)

118 The US trying to impose sanctions on some IDF units seems to have fallen by the wayside. Our government is doing everything it can to hurt Israel. Guaranteeing that Israel will end the war and give gaza back to hamas is insanity.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 08:20 AM (mKjJV)

119 Have a good day Fen !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 08:20 AM (T4tVD)

120 Couple in their 80s from England has fostered 150 children over their married life:

https://tinyurl.com/42hc8bjs

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 08:21 AM (XkYcA)

121 Hiya LadyL !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 08:21 AM (T4tVD)

122 Ladyl and Maud'dib at the same time!!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 08:21 AM (mKjJV)

123 Pronounced Rafiach (guttural "ch") in Hebrew.

Completely idiotic situation here, both north and south.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2024 08:12 AM (NMFQ7)

Dankeschoen. (I don't know "thank you" in Yiddish or Hebrew. Or Aramaic, for that matter.)

Posted by: pookysgirl, German enough at May 05, 2024 08:22 AM (dtlDP)

124 It's weird that the same people who want me to give up my car and cheeseburger also want war in Ukraine and Iran.

Seems like that would have a lot of environmental effects.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:22 AM (3fSZZ)

125 Dear Ben Had!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at May 05, 2024 08:22 AM (+4oV5)

126 Maud'dib, I haven't had an update in a while. Hope to hear from you .

Posted by: Ben Had at May 05, 2024 08:23 AM (mKjJV)

127 Those damn un-nameable interns in Cincinnati are lying again! Their lying made us, the upstanding, incorruptable DOJ, lie to you, inadvertently, fair Judge!

“There are some boxes where the order of items within that box is not the same as in the associated scans,” prosecutors wrote, adding in a footnote: “The Government acknowledges that this is inconsistent with what Government counsel previously understood and represented to the Court.”

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2024 08:23 AM (3CVIc)

128 Since the 12th amendment, it is possible for both President and vice Presidential candidates to be from the same state.

The prohibition refers to pre-12th Amendment when the runner-up in the Electoral College became vice President. Now these are separate ballots and offices.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 08:24 AM (RIvkX)

129 Some of the documents may be upside-down too!

Posted by: pawn at May 05, 2024 08:25 AM (QB+5g)

130 Stopped at Buc-ee's near Florence SC on Friday lunchtime. Had never heard of it.

Unbelievable! Imagine a 7-11 with 650 parking spaces, 120 gas pumps in front, full of yahoos lined up to buy deep fried anything and bbq.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 05, 2024 08:26 AM (UO9mX)

131 Thinking they want a fast train to no whereas a gun to your head making you have a EV that takes forever to get anywhere

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 08:26 AM (fwDg9)

132 Dankeschoen. (I don't know "thank you" in Yiddish or Hebrew. Or Aramaic, for that matter.)
Posted by: pookysgirl, German enough at May 05, 2024 08:22 AM (dtlDP)


Toe-Dah. (Hebrew). Biden's Dog can correct.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 05, 2024 08:26 AM (PiwSw)

133 Yep. Watermelons. Doesn't explain why wealthy whites are so onboard - other than idiotic guilt.
Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 08:16 AM (pTv5j)

Blah Blah says we should do what we can to help our little black and brown brothers and sistas out as we will need them to mow our grass, remove our garbage, wash our EV's and change Blah Blah's diaper when we are not out in Vale or vacationing among the poverty in India due to the fluctuating temperatures. Remember, the earth is on fire and we need our air conditioning.

I don't mind giving out the code to our gated entrance when the less fortunate colored folks show up to service our residence.

Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Democrat Boomers at May 05, 2024 08:26 AM (R/m4+)

134 Couple in their 80s from England has fostered 150 children over their married life:

Amazing. Wonderful people.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2024 08:26 AM (mH6SG)

135 Yep. Watermelons. Doesn't explain why wealthy whites are so onboard - other than idiotic guilt.

Posted by: Its Always Been This Way at May 05, 2024 08:16 AM (pTv5j)

My in-laws are white guilt people. They struggled for decades to be prosperous, and now can't enjoy it because of mainstream media and Christian publications.

Posted by: pookysgirl, not feeling the guilt at May 05, 2024 08:27 AM (dtlDP)

136 Savior complex, but not really wealthy enough to do anything but pretend they're part of the club.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 05, 2024 08:28 AM (3fSZZ)

137 Happy Sunday.

Happy Cinco de Quattro!

Posted by: Barry O. at May 05, 2024 08:28 AM (llON8)

138 Stopped at Buc-ee's near Florence SC on Friday lunchtime. Had never heard of it.
Unbelievable! Imagine a 7-11 with 650 parking spaces, 120 gas pumps in front, full of yahoos lined up to buy deep fried anything and bbq.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 05, 2024 08:26 AM (UO9mX)

I like Busy Bee better. There is always that employee in the shitter keeping it clean and I can discuss solving the world's problems with as I relieve myself.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 08:29 AM (R/m4+)

139 Thirty minutes til the book thread!!! Aaannd i gotta go somewhere just after it starts. Rats.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 08:31 AM (0eaVi)

140 How exactly were this pair of Mrs Trump's panties 'misplaced' by the FBI in this box of classified documents?

Posted by: Defense Counsel at May 05, 2024 08:32 AM (SYTee)

141 A good morning and happy Sunday to all. 47 and raining on the mid Hudson. Temperature dropped 25 degrees since yesterday, won't get out of low 50s all day. Good excuse to read a good book

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 05, 2024 08:32 AM (5S+sK)

142 US wind power slipped last year for the first time in a quarter-century due to weaker-than-normal Midwest breezes, underscoring the challenge of integrating volatile renewable energy sources into the grid.

Hope is not an energy strategy.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:33 AM (ENQN6)

143 I like Busy Bee better. There is always that employee in the shitter keeping it clean and I can discuss solving the world's problems with as I relieve myself.

More coffee...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 05, 2024 08:29 AM (R/m4+)

Hon Have you checked our shitter?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:34 AM (ENQN6)

144 Working on my second coffee. I can form words now and not just grunt.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 08:37 AM (O7YUW)

145 Directly from Cass:

It warns that the medical pathway is unsuitable for most young people with gender issues.

And it states that clinicians should take extreme care before allowing anyone under the age of 25 to take pharmaceutical steps to ‘transition’ to look like the opposite sex.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:38 AM (ENQN6)

146 Directly from Cass:

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:38 AM (ENQN6)

Mama, or Peggy?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 05, 2024 08:40 AM (0eaVi)

147 Rain rain rain. Doggy didn't even try to get me up at the usual time. I did take her out on the porch, in case she really needed to step off into the grass to pee. She took one step off into the rain and said, "Naw, I can hold it."

G'morn, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in before books at May 05, 2024 08:41 AM (OOnTd)

148 Rainy day, dream away
Ain't no use in getting uptight
Just let it groove its own way

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 08:42 AM (fwDg9)

149
US wind power slipped last year for the first time in a quarter-century due to weaker-than-normal Midwest breezes, underscoring the challenge of integrating volatile renewable energy sources into the grid.

An actual no-bullshit metric which indicates the climate is becoming more moderate, not severe.

Status in MSM: Buried

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 08:44 AM (RKVpM)

150 Am only left with 2 cross cut trunk sections of the 2 pine trees that took down

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 08:44 AM (fwDg9)

151 Woke up with a headache again, worse than yesterday
I blame the weather and my sinuses

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 05, 2024 08:45 AM (Ka3bZ)

152 God morning, my pretty Hordelings.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 08:47 AM (FkUwd)

153 Feel better soon VMom !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 08:47 AM (T4tVD)

154 Cinco de Mayo?

Why are we celebrating mayonnaise??

Posted by: dantesed at May 05, 2024 08:48 AM (Oy/m2)

155
Am only left with 2 cross cut trunk sections of the 2 pine trees that took down

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 08:44 AM


I have plenty of free diesel fuel if you wanna burn out any stumps. Take a 3/4" bit and drill about a dozen holes in the stump. Fill holes with diesel. Wait a few days, repeat. Do it half a dozen times. Then start a fire over stump and it will burn right down into the roots.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2024 08:50 AM (RKVpM)

156 Morning.
Woke up to about 1/2 inch of snow.
Started just before I went to bed as an ice storm. Earlier I was playing video poker at the Little 2 Convenient Store and this clown comes in.
"Why do they let that stupid senile idiot Biden play with the weather machine?"
I said "better than letting him play with the football."
Then he blows it. "Did we just become best friends?"
"No. Not if you're going to quote that fucking elf guy ever again."

Posted by: Reforger at May 05, 2024 08:50 AM (B705c)

157 May 5th is our daughter's anniversary... in addition to the day of Tequila.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 08:50 AM (Q4IgG)

158 Uruguay will melt down a bronze eagle found on a sunken World War II-era German destroyer off its coast 13 years ago, and recast it as a dove of peace, the South American country’s president said Friday.

The 350-kilogram (770-pound) “symbol of violence and war” will be turned into a “symbol of peace and union,”.

Destroying history is real fucking stupid.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:50 AM (ENQN6)

159 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 05, 2024 08:52 AM (dg+HA)

160 Luckily if wait until so rotted it falls on its own the stump is rotting away on its own.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 08:53 AM (fwDg9)

161 {157} May 5th is our daughter's anniversary... in addition to the day of Tequila.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 08:50 AM (Q4IgG)


Happy Anniversary to your daughter! How many happy years has it been?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 08:54 AM (O7YUW)

162 For Cinco de Mayo I shall sing Hava Tequila at the wing place during lunch.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 05, 2024 08:56 AM (ENQN6)

163 > Happy Anniversary to your daughter! How many happy years has it been?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
__________

This is their 5th anniversary. Married in Vegas. It was a wild one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2024 08:57 AM (Q4IgG)

164 Oh, it's Drinko de Mayo. I'll have to have a tequila.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 05, 2024 08:59 AM (FkUwd)

165 .

NOOD

Sunday Morning Book thread is live!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 05, 2024 09:00 AM (O7YUW)

166 So, the DOJ now admits to "evidence tampering" in the Mar Lago document case - there is no other way to describe what happened here no matter how much SP Smith squid inks this up as some sort of innocent sounding foul up that the DOJ didn't know about before trial. They testified to the court that all was copasetic with the evidence that was in their custody, and now it isn't...

Judge should immediately dismiss this case and order a complete investigation into who did what, and who knew what and when...

Posted by: Boswell at May 05, 2024 09:03 AM (K+UlC)

167 Exactly. Or we end up going to one of our 3 or 4 favorite places . . . and a few months later during another "discussion" I find that she hates going to at least one of them, but she never told me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 07:42 AM (omVj0)

Made my grandmother's cornbread for fifty years before he mentioned he really didn't like it.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 05, 2024 09:05 AM (IZjwR)

168 Yeah, it's vacuous and ridiculous to have Mark Hamill deliver a press briefing, but face it - during a Democrat Presidency, anyone can be PressSec. Read the canned remarks. Then call on someone who will ask "why does the President work so hard to keep our democracy so sacred? Does totally above-board and definitely real representative government give him the kind of sexual charge that watching him defend it gives us? Or is it just selfless dedication that drives him?"

They should keep it up with these old Hollywood almost-weres. They've done Luke Uses-A-Walker. Maybe they can the get the guy from "Bosom Buddies" next. Not Tom Hanks, though. The other queer, the one nobody remembers. Or the first drummer from the Beatles. Or Mikey from the Life cereal ads.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2024 09:16 AM (0FoWg)

169 Mindful: 1 of our dogs asked to go out 5 times last night. Wouldn't step off the patio due to rain. Even tried taking her holding an unbrella over head. Nope. She held it til this morning. Didn't get my restful sleep. Coffee's ready to help.

Posted by: S.Lynn at May 05, 2024 09:34 AM (o+xLn)

170 Trump can establish domicile in any state by buying a house, getting a driver's license and registering to vote. If he picks DeSantis that would show more depth than typical of Trump. DeSantis has almost zero charisma.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at May 05, 2024 10:07 AM (55boN)

Daily Tech News 5 May 2024

Top Story


Tech News

  • Understanding Stein's paradox. (Joe Antognini)

    Well, that didn't work.


  • Why RAG won't solve generative AI's hallucination problem. (Tech Crunch)
    Because models have no real intelligence and are simply predicting words, images, speech, music and other data according to a private schema, they sometimes get it wrong. Very wrong.
    What RAG does is tell the AI to look the damn answer up instead of making it up.

    For which the AI is entirely unnecessary.


  • 4060 Ti or 7700 XT? (Tom's Hardware)

    Following price cuts from both Nvidia and AMD, the judges award this round to the 7700 XT. In fact, I've seen the 7700 XT (which has 12GB of RAM) selling for less than even the 8GB model of the 4060 Ti, making the choice easy.


  • Setting up computers all over the place, including a new Linux server at home running Ubuntu 24.04.


Disclaimer: The Team MP44 is awarded a rating of "sucks", after failing completely under both Windows and Linux.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




Comments

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:02 AM (o3SCB)

2 I called them.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:02 AM (o3SCB)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:03 AM (fwDg9)

4 https://tinyurl.com/3wrhymjh
20 Tweets from Bad Blue
Some good stuff

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:03 AM (fwDg9)

5 This automatic emergency braking is going to be a hoot-

how will the system know what the road conditions are before slamming on the brakes

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 04:08 AM (/7KEl)

6 from the TechCrunch article

Here’s a similar pitch from SiftHub:
Using RAG technology and fine-tuned large language models with industry-specific knowledge training, SiftHub allows companies to generate personalized responses with zero hallucinations.

"allows"--but doesn't ensure

This guarantees increased transparency and reduced risk and inspires absolute trust to use AI for all their needs.

That's nowhere near standard English.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:09 AM (o3SCB)

7 "Automatic Emergency Braking"

Oh, FFS!

As a former machine operator, running at the whim & mercy of several dozen 'properly functioning' sensors...

I'd bet that the supposed benefits will ultimately be outweighed by the risks of having vehicles controlled by such a... sensing apparatus.

MANUAL OVERRIDE, FTW!!!! (but you can be sure there will not be an "off" switch for this "feature" until after many lawsuits. Like passenger-side airbags.)

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:11 AM (njWTi)

8 “... you’re likely to give more accurate answers if you have a reference [like a book or a file] in front of you ....”

Oh rilly? An example of a reference the author of the article gives is wikipedia!!! What could go wrong.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:12 AM (o3SCB)

9 7 "Automatic Emergency Braking" ... I'd bet that the supposed benefits will ultimately be outweighed by the risks of having vehicles controlled by such a... sensing apparatus.

MANUAL OVERRIDE, FTW!!!! (but you can be sure there will not be an "off" switch for this "feature" until after many lawsuits. Like passenger-side airbags.)
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:11 AM (njWTi)

I'm imagining the terror of the helpless human in a car trying to, say, get out of the way of an oncoming vehicle when the car automatically brakes.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:14 AM (o3SCB)

10 Ubuntu is heading down the same dark path Microsoft blazed. Telemetry, forcing snaps (to the point that you can install using apt and get a snap instead), lots of other crap. You don't even get deb package recognition in context menus by default in 24.04 anymore.

Linux Mint rides on top of Ubuntu but fixes their bugs, has fantastic additional features like Timeshift, doesn't do telemetry, reacted to Ubuntu's snaps crap by disabling snaps entirely by default (but can be reenabled), and is entirely community run and supported, instead of Microsoft-Lite, I mean, Canonical. Oh, and the DE of the main version, Cinnamon, is 10000000x times better than Ubuntu's Gnome (tho Cinnamon keeps the bits of Gnome that are actually decent, like Disks).

When even the Archlinux snobs concede that LM has become very mature and stable. you know it has to be pretty good. I first replaced every Ubuntu box in my house with LM.... and then I replaced my Windows boxes with LM. Both Microsoft and Canonical are banished from my household (aside from what our jobs force). And couldn't be happier.

Posted by: Qwinn at May 05, 2024 04:15 AM (AYO2r)

11 I'm imagining the terror of the helpless human in a car trying to, say, get out of the way of an oncoming vehicle when the car automatically brakes.
Posted by: m
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Exactly.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:15 AM (njWTi)

12 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 04:18 AM (ju2Fy)

13 Seems like an honest ending to that TechCrunch article:

So RAG can help reduce a model’s hallucinations — but it’s not the answer to all of AI’s hallucinatory problems. Beware of any vendor that tries to claim otherwise.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:19 AM (o3SCB)

14 Qwinn - Yeah, I might well reinstall it with Mint.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 05, 2024 04:20 AM (BLOW1)

15 4 https://tinyurl.com/3wrhymjh
20 Tweets from Bad Blue
Some good stuff
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:03 AM (fwDg9)

Thanks, Skip!

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:20 AM (o3SCB)

16 AI is on the RAG...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at May 05, 2024 04:20 AM (TGPs7)

17 My car already has a radar system what tells me to BRAKE! (with many BEEPS to alert me, too!) when, say, the car ahead of me slows rapidly. Or, somebody suddenly cuts me off in traffic.

PITA, but doesn't slam on my brakes fercryinoutloud...

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:21 AM (njWTi)

18 MP44

Any relation to our MP4?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 04:21 AM (ju2Fy)

19 A blessed and Holy Pascha (Easter) to our Eastern Orthodox posters. Christ is risen! He is risen indeed! The celebration of Pascha is beautiful-for those who have not experienced it - as celebrants process around the church With candles Easter Eve at 12:00, the door to the church are opened and the celebration continues inside.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 04:22 AM (XkYcA)

20 The US government has mandated automatic emergency braking in all new cars sold starting 2029. (Car and Driver)

This could save 360 lives a year,
------------------

But how many lives will they kill? Several times I've had cars slam on brakes while I was making an aggressive move to avoid collisions. Ironically, one vehicles warning msg on the dash came up as "Collision Assist." Seemed accurate.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 04:30 AM (ju2Fy)

21 17 My car already has a radar system what tells me to BRAKE! (with many BEEPS to alert me, too!) when, say, the car ahead of me slows rapidly. Or, somebody suddenly cuts me off in traffic.

PITA, but doesn't slam on my brakes fercryinoutloud...
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:21 AM (njWTi)

Can you turn off, or turn down, the beeps?

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:33 AM (o3SCB)

22 Pixy - cool, you wouldn't regret it. (Check out applets when you're there, can do amazing things to the taskbar).

Ubuntu's getting so bad that I'm actually considering going to Linux Mint Debian Edition (which also uses Cinnamon DE and is supposedly almost indistinguishable from the main version). The only thing holding back is that the Ubuntu repos are considerably richer than the Debian ones. I'm hoping the Mint devs finally decide to make LMDE their main package and just take the worthwhile stuff from Ubuntu repos that Debian doesn't have in theirs and just put it in their own repo.

Posted by: Qwinn at May 05, 2024 04:33 AM (AYO2r)

23 makes me think of that drone in I, Robot that leans in Will Smith's car window and says "YOU ARE EXPERIENCING A CAR ACCIDENT"

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 04:33 AM (/7KEl)

24 A beautiful message from one of- the head clergy- or the head fellow ( I'm not up on Eastern Orthodox Clergy; Sorry) of the Orthodox Church. It is a good message for all Christians:

https://tinyurl.com/w4z55w76

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 04:42 AM (XkYcA)

25 18 MP44

Any relation to our MP4?
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2024 04:21 AM (ju2Fy)

; )

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:42 AM (o3SCB)

26 Rain again today

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:58 AM (fwDg9)

27 Can you turn off, or turn down, the beeps?
Posted by: m
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No.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:59 AM (njWTi)

28 Rain again today
Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 04:58 AM (fwDg9)

That's just ducky !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 05:07 AM (T4tVD)

29 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 05:07 AM (T4tVD)

30 Hiya, JT!

How you?

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 05:14 AM (njWTi)

31 “as many as are killed by beavers”

GavGov recently planted 20 live beaver in moist meadowy places here in NorCal. Those plantings were offset by the 32 live coyote planted near moist meadowy places in NorCal.

Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2024 05:16 AM (S7agN)

32 I'm attempting to wake up and succeeding slowly.

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 05:17 AM (T4tVD)

33 Good luck waking up, JT.

Wish me luck getting to sleep. LOL

G'night... zzzzzzzzz

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 05:18 AM (njWTi)

34 If the automatic breaking mandate gets you aroused you are going pass out in ecstasy from the the 2021 Bipartisan Infrastructure Law mandate that all cars at some point will have mandatory alcohol interlock systems. The rules for this are being drafted and will be published by the end of 2024.

My question is when does the administrative state grant itself the power to decide that your ability to drive a car can be terminated, in the name of saving lives, based on when it determines you are a social risk. This type of thinking is the heartbeat of the ever encroaching nanny state.

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 05:27 AM (hqGCh)

35 'm attempting to wake up and succeeding slowly.
Posted by: JT

I am attempting to fall back asleep and failing spectacularly.

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 05:28 AM (hqGCh)

36 34 If the automatic breaking mandate gets you aroused you are going pass out in ecstasy from the the 2021 Bipartisan Infrastructure Law mandate that all cars at some point will have mandatory alcohol interlock systems. The rules for this are being drafted and will be published by the end of 2024.

My question is when does the administrative state grant itself the power to decide that your ability to drive a car can be terminated, in the name of saving lives, based on when it determines you are a social risk. This type of thinking is the heartbeat of the ever encroaching nanny state.

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 05:27 AM (hqGCh)

Yep on all that.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 05:32 AM (o3SCB)

37 'Nite JQ !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 05:32 AM (T4tVD)

38 27 Can you turn off, or turn down, the beeps?
Posted by: m
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No.
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 04:59 AM (njWTi)

I guess you could blast music real loud!

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 05:33 AM (o3SCB)

39 Thanks for the Big Bad Blue Tweets Skip !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 05:33 AM (T4tVD)

40 It will be interesting to see how urban POC's handle having the commie shit weasels drive/take their car

Posted by: Jamaica at May 05, 2024 05:37 AM (IG7T0)

41 "From brokenness to blessing.." A reflection on a passage from Joel:

https://tinyurl.com/54hd3whf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2024 05:41 AM (XkYcA)

42 Someday the muffler noise and backfires will be an app on their phone.
City has to drop points for Arsenal to win.
Everton can go play with TB14's Birmingham team.

Posted by: Jamaica at May 05, 2024 05:43 AM (IG7T0)

43 Good morning morons

Unusual rain all day yesterday

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 05:43 AM (RIvkX)

44 40 It will be interesting to see how urban POC's handle having the commie shit weasels drive/take their car
Posted by: Jamaica at May 05, 2024 05:37 AM (IG7T0)

Huh. I'm thinking "same way they handled having the commie shit weasels mandate vaccines," but I can't think of exactly how it would work itself out.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 05:43 AM (o3SCB)

45 It's not about safety it's about power and control.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2024 05:46 AM (RIvkX)

46 Good morning morons

Unusual rain all day yesterday
Posted by: San Franpsycho

No WONDER I got wet !

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2024 05:49 AM (T4tVD)

47 The Jefferson County Republican Party has canceled a fundraiser scheduled for Saturday with South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem.

...the county GOP stated that “safety concerns” led to the cancellation of the event because protesters were expected to show up.


bonus fact I learned from this article:

Jeffco GOP Chair Nancy Pallozzi

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 05:51 AM (/7KEl)

48 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2024 05:52 AM (86W+h)

49 KRAK OF DAWN HAS ARRIVED
Grab a cup of coffee and head upstairs

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2024 05:55 AM (fwDg9)

50 Evening and morning to all the early Sunday risers and later weekend toilers! I slept okay, with the help of a single cold pill -- thus no coughing -- and I plan to work out gently this morning. With 74 F. and 90% humidity, I'm not looking forward to it.

In even poorer news, Miss Linda is decidedly un-thrilled at the idea of my retiring this month, and won't discuss the move-and-buy-a-house scenario unless I force it. She has never been excited about the idea when I showed her nice houses on Realtor in Evansville and environs.

Instead of being excited about "the new chapter," as the cliche has it, I'm finding myself a little depressed (along with the usual seasonal "down" I feel when the nasty humid heat closes in).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 05, 2024 05:57 AM (omVj0)

51 Being miserable at work, the new commute AND suffering eight or nine months of foul weather. Blarg.

Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2024 06:32 AM (IlHsm)

52 Automatic Emergency Braking? I thought Pete Buttiplug enjoyed getting slammed in the rear.

Posted by: TC at May 05, 2024 06:38 AM (cHOHf)

53 Sorta pre-book thread. Anyone familiar with Jeff Vandermeer’s weird fiction Southern Reach Trilogy?

The first book with the crawler scribing odd phrases on the alien lichen growing on the stairwell walls in the tower.

The word and sentence structure choices Gavin Newsom posts on his Twitter feed is that. The unceasing agitprop; It’s weird and fantastic and unreal. People “liking” his propaganda inhaled the toxic lichen-pollen.

Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2024 06:45 AM (mhgCT)

54 Guy buys an EV motorcycle that is roughly equivalent to the Honda Trail 125 I have on order with a few exceptions. It cost 50% more, has 1/3 the range, and refueling takes about 5 hours as opposed to about 5 minutes. And one more thing, unlike the Honda, it catches fire in the first 3 mi of riding it. As a point of comparison there are numerous Honda Trail 90 motorcycles, first introduced in the mid-1960s, are still on the road.

Now scale this cock up to millions of EV vehicles on the road. I suggest you bring hot dogs and buns cuz that's is the future. Evs are a scam. The best quote in the video is it's not on fire. It's overheating. The good part starts at 9 minutes.

https://youtu.be/wxr1iXEf9lY

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 07:02 AM (hqGCh)

55 A 125 dirt ebike doing 48mph on the road? I’ve literally no idea how those things are set up; sprockets etc., and is he riding into a headwind?

And the rider looks like he weighs at least 180?

Posted by: 13times at May 05, 2024 07:44 AM (5dsPO)

56 Did not receive calls or texts on the new Samsung for 3 days. Everything suddenly dumped in at 02:00 on Saturday, all of it at once. I think it has to do with Google Messages and that Chat setting, on by default. Or something. Restarted the phone 3 times and set Chat to Text and Messages, so far so good.
I don't get many calls or texts so didn't think much of it, until the sudden appearance of a dozen texts and calls.

WTF.

Posted by: LenNeal at May 05, 2024 08:17 AM (NdL8w)

57 My question is when does the administrative state grant itself the power to decide that your ability to drive a car can be terminated, in the name of saving lives, based on when it determines you are a social risk. This type of thinking is the heartbeat of the ever encroaching nanny state.

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 05, 2024 05:27 AM (hqGCh)

Reason 1,278 why I will hang on to my '06 Mustang GT for the remainder of my days. No newer vehicle in my future. My 57 Chevy in the garage is my back up.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 05, 2024 09:12 AM (iODuv)

58 A team of devs from my work spent over a year trying to develop a LLM-based chatbot that could replace our current expert system chatbot (which has constant complaints, craps out on the regular, and is on an expensive license to boot). "Hallucinations" was exactly the problem that made us drop the idea.

The vast majority of our time was spent trying various ways to reduce the "hallucinations" (not sure I like that term since it implies a lot of false things about what is happening). RAG was one of the later things we tried, but we found that 1) the process of reducing hallucinations was essentially turning the LLM into a search-driven expert system (or layering one on top of the LLM), and 2) getting the LLM to pull from the relevant part of the document was a crapshoot.

In the end, RAG is just a jargon-ized way of saying "bound the allowed results based on curated documents", and it doesn't address the fundamental problem of LLMs not understanding the words they put together.

Posted by: Cortillaen at May 05, 2024 12:30 PM (6kADi)

59 I'm sure someone has already commented but automatic braking (mandated of course) is going to be a huge boon to the Carjacking industry.
Thinking a little further ahead anyone that disables the autobrake, and subsequently runs over an attempted hijacker, would undoubtablely be charged with manslaughter or murder.

Unless we have had the revolution by 2029 and all those bureaucrats and leftist judges are swinging by the neck by then.

Posted by: John the River at May 05, 2024 12:48 PM (/3goP)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (5/4/24)

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*****


THE SATURDAY NIGHT JOKE


The mother-in-law comes home and finds her son-in-law furious and packing his suitcase. "What happened?"

"What happened? I'll tell you what happened! I sent an email to my wife saying that I was coming home from my trip today. I got home and guess what I found? My wife, yes my Rachel, with a naked guy in our marital bed! This is the end of our marriage, I will leave forever!"

"Calm down!" says mother-in-law. "There is something odd about this story. Rachel would never do such a thing! Wait a minute while I check what happened."

Moments later, mother-in-law comes back with a big smile. "You see, I said there must be a simple explanation. Rachel didn't receive your Email." (H/T Isophorone Blog)

*****


She wished for a memorable wedding. Be careful for what you wish for.

WEDDING HELLS Watch moment at least 100 wedding guests are struck down by mystery illness that left them vomiting after 4-course meal
One of the menu items reportedly had an aftertaste of a chemical

THIS is the shocking moment wedding guests were struck down by a mystery illness after being served a 4-course meal.

Around 100 people experienced "aggravated symptoms" at the nuptials in Cuernavaca, Mexico.


*****


The ONT Musical Interlude & Monofilament Emporium



*****

Starving kids in Ethiopia and you are busy becoming a Genius Award Winner.

Cops: Handcuffed Man, 73, Hit Officer With "Forcibly" Thrown Cheeseburger

A handcuffed 73-year-old man somehow was able to “forcibly” throw a cheeseburger at a cop, leading to the suspect’s arrest on a felony battery charge, records show.

Police responded Wednesday night to a Wawa convenience store in Fort Pierce, Florida “in reference to a subject being present who was previously trespassed.”


*****


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Oh Shit! Moments.

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Notice: Posted with unenthusiastic permission by the Ace Media Empire & AceCorp, LLC. Probably a withdrawal symptom of MSG.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:59 PM




Comments

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1 Chips?

Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (PZo5T)

2 MHONT WOOOOT!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (hOUT3)

3 Hey all.

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 04, 2024 10:00 PM (7ZQe3)

4 Yo

Posted by: Muchas buchas at May 04, 2024 10:00 PM (lJw9y)

5 1 Chips?
Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (

Nacho chips go well with tonic

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2024 10:01 PM (QXQ4l)

6 Good evening horde.

Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 10:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

7 Bourbon with pork rinds dipped in Frank's hot sauce.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 10:01 PM (gPzkP)

8 short and sweet!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 10:01 PM (S6gqv)

9 They're talking about gay sex wizard comix in the movie thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (FkUwd)

10 Lemme guess. Rachel is blonde, too?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (8zz6B)

11 Well done lin-duh!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (hOUT3)

12 End of the 2nd

0-0

🐻 vs 🍁

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (TTAGa)

13 Good evening morons and thanks for the joke mh

Don't drink a lot of wine or eat a lot of chips. But by all means, carry on. *grimaces*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:03 PM (RIvkX)

14 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 10:03 PM (T4tVD)

15 Brown dog, are you watching soccer?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:03 PM (FkUwd)

16 10 Lemme guess. Rachel is blonde, too?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


NOW, it is the perfect joke!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 04, 2024 10:03 PM (hOUT3)

17 End of the day reward: Saturday ONT! No joke!

Uh, except, well, anyway. As the clown in chief might mumble.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I mean it! at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (qXRfQ)

18 Oh shit! moment.

When your homemade pron shoot goes bad.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (Js20g)

19 "THIS is the shocking moment wedding guests were struck down by a mystery illness after being served a 4-course meal."


Wasn't me.

Posted by: Gus Fring at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (SYTee)

20 Cape Cod chips are the potato chip equivalent of Captain Crunch.

Those damn things cut my mouth to shreds.

Hated them, give me a bag of Lays …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (TTAGa)

21 Those wedding guests are probably lucky that whatever poison that was in the food was a violent emetic. If they had kept it down, they might be all pushing up daisies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (8zz6B)

22 Ah the ONT, the cool kids table of the AoS....

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (vJiyU)

23 ValueRite and porkrinds.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 10:05 PM (NxC5+)

24 Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (TTAGa)

Game 7s are always fun. Not so much if you're in the arena and can't have bathrooms at one's seat.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:05 PM (emlEe)

25 Sorry I'm late, the stable boy out the saddle on backward.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:06 PM (TIbVQ)

26 Ah the ONT, the cool kids table of the AoS....
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (vJiyU)
===
The nerds on the Pixy thread want a word...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (RIvkX)

27 Around 100 people experienced "aggravated symptoms" at the nuptials in Cuernavaca, Mexico.


I think I spot the problem.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (+J/Au)

28 White zin with shrimp chips.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (qG4SX)

29 Around 100 people experienced "aggravated symptoms" at the nuptials in Cuernavaca, Mexico.

Wait a minute. Wrong people.

Posted by: Montezuma at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (0eaVi)

30 15 Brown dog, are you watching soccer?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:03 PM (FkUwd)

I’ll be tuning in to watch Liverpool play the Spurs tomorrow

I’m a little disappointed in how the Reds are finishing the run in

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (TTAGa)

31 Ah the ONT, the cool kids table of the AoS....
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (vJiyU)

"Yeah," he mumbled from that corner near the open bar.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (gPzkP)

32 Sorry I'm late, the stable boy out the saddle on backward.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:06 PM (TIbVQ)


Out the saddle? Saddles are gay now? Cripes, will this shit ever stop?

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (emlEe)

33 "Grupo Paraiso, the catering company which was hired for the wedding, has not commented on the incident."

I'll bet. Just take a loss, write the check, and change the company name so no one ever speaks of it again.

Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 10:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

34 Those wedding guests are probably lucky that whatever poison that was in the food was a violent emetic. If they had kept it down, they might be all pushing up daisies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (8zz6B)
===
Or started foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:08 PM (RIvkX)

35 I see ESPN/ABC intermission hosts are as dumb as CBC's.

Turns back to CBC; adjusts sound level to 0.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:08 PM (UfUdn)

36 Chips?
Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (

Nacho chips go well with tonic
Posted

These nacho chips. These Mine!

Those your chips.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 10:08 PM (VNX3d)

37 >Ah the ONT, the cool kids table of the AoS....


Playing cards?

Posted by: Flounder at May 04, 2024 10:08 PM (SYTee)

38 More 'oh, paint' than oh shit. But still.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:09 PM (di6C2)

39 Turns back to CBC; adjusts sound level to 0.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:08 PM (UfUdn)

It’s so unfortunate …

Bring back Grapes !!!

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:09 PM (TTAGa)

40 So tossing a cheeseburger while in handcuffs is a felony offense? I'll try to remember.

Nice ONT, Mis Hum.

Chips with wine? OK, I'll give it a try!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 04, 2024 10:09 PM (TSQkU)

41 Out the saddle? Saddles are gay now? Cripes, will this shit ever stop?
Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (emlEe)

One thing that never seems to stop are my typos. "Out" should be "put."

My copy editor is in big trouble.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:09 PM (TIbVQ)

42 Which hard liquors go with each wine selection?

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:10 PM (vJiyU)

43 I’ll be tuning in to watch Liverpool play the Spurs tomorrow

I’m a little disappointed in how the Reds are finishing the run in
Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (TTAGa)


What the hell was that blowup between Klopp and Salah about?

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:10 PM (emlEe)

44 >I see ESPN/ABC intermission hosts are as dumb as CBC's.


set a timer for 18 minutes, mute TV, and hang out here for a bit

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:10 PM (/7KEl)

45 I REALLY hope that's plaster in that car.
Is that mean?

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 10:11 PM (1zxQh)

46 Life lesson #31: Never have your wedding reception at Chipotle.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 10:11 PM (Js20g)

47 Those are all dry wines. Dry wines suck.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2024 10:11 PM (g0Y4p)

48 What the hell was that blowup between Klopp and Salah about?
Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:10 PM (emlEe)

Salah was pissed that he was being brought on with 17 minutes left in the match.

He thought he should have started the game …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:12 PM (TTAGa)

49 Game 7s are always fun. Not so much if you're in the arena and can't have bathrooms at one's seat.
----
Stadium Pal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ty8aHsV7gs

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:12 PM (UfUdn)

50 "Yeah," he mumbled from that corner near the open bar.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Tell me about it. We got joey b. at our table.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:12 PM (vJiyU)

51 30 I’ll be tuning in to watch Liverpool play the Spurs tomorrow

I’m a little disappointed in how the Reds are finishing the run in

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM
***
Agreed. Glimpses of strength but just not consistently strong enough. A good year, but just short of hardware. YNWA.

Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 10:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

52 Content:

𐄂 Read
☑Not Read
☑☑ Also, strap down those buckets.

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 10:13 PM (IG4Id)

53 Waiting for Pookette's bus to arrive from her band trip. I watched a short clip of the band marching in last evening's parade, and I could clearly hear Pookette on bells (perfectly in time, of course).

Posted by: pookysgirl, marching band mom at May 04, 2024 10:13 PM (/38Ai)

54 49 Game 7s are always fun. Not so much if you're in the arena and can't have bathrooms at one's seat.
----
Stadium Pal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ty8aHsV7gs
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:12 PM (UfUdn)

Astronaut Diapers …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:13 PM (TTAGa)

55 Seems like an economy-sized ONT. MisHum conserving his energy pre-surgery, no doubt. Good joke, though. The commenters will pick up any slack, no doubt.

Posted by: mindful webworker - rockin' at May 04, 2024 10:13 PM (qXRfQ)

56 >>>I see ESPN/ABC intermission hosts are as dumb as CBC's.


It's ESPN. What d'you expect?

Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2024 10:13 PM (g0Y4p)

57 Considering that it is Sunday, a bit of drinking is in order.

Posted by: Miklos orders a Round for the ONT house at May 04, 2024 10:14 PM (g3rvw)

58 I missed the race today, but it sounds like it was a barn burner of a finish. Congratulations, Mystik Dan. (With a name like that, you know he is a lurker here.)

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:14 PM (TIbVQ)

59 No Port Wine? That would go great with salty chips

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 04, 2024 10:14 PM (7ZQe3)

60 47 Those are all dry wines. Dry wines suck.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2024 10:11 PM (g0Y4p)

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*slides over half-empty bottle of Boones Farm Strawberry Hill*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (bo7UB)

61 That was a big old bucket of paint. Probably check the lid next time.

Posted by: huerfano at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (VGOMa)

62 My wife was quite fond of Chips Ahoy cookies with white wine.

Posted by: From about that Time at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (4780s)

63 Waiting for Pookette's bus to arrive from her band trip. I watched a short clip of the band marching in last evening's parade, and I could clearly hear Pookette on bells (perfectly in time, of course).
Posted by: pookysgirl, marching band mom at May 04, 2024 10:13 PM (/38Ai)
====
This one time at band camp...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (RIvkX)

64 I’ll be tuning in to watch Liverpool play the Spurs tomorrow
---------
I watched the Frasier tonight when three of her brothers visit [in the series finale] and they sing a polite version of...

We hate Nottingham Forest,
We hate Everton too – they’re s**t!
We hate Man United,
But Liverpool we love you
All together now! (repeat)

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (UfUdn)

65 Agreed. Glimpses of strength but just not consistently strong enough. A good year, but just short of hardware. YNWA.
Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 10:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

Up the Reds …

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (TTAGa)

66 Sean McDonough is not impressed with the Bruins' play

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (/7KEl)

67 59 No Port Wine? That would go great with salty chips
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 04, 2024 10:14 PM (7ZQe3)

----------

I was thinking chicharrones.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:16 PM (bo7UB)

68 Bring back Grapes !!!
-------
I wish.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:16 PM (UfUdn)

69 Tonight was Wild Turkey and bacon and eggs. And toast.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 10:17 PM (NxC5+)

70 Chicharrones and chelada.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:17 PM (RIvkX)

71 Misanthropic Humanitarian

Thank you for the ONT. Last picture is a cautionary tale.

Good luck with your surgery Monday. May your most caring, sexy, and thoughtful nurse be your Fabulous.
We already know PT will be what separates the winers from the winners.

May a young, fit, busty, nurse with blonde hair in a pony-tail not say to you "You remind me of my Dad."
Been there, done that.
I know from experience that the line, when repeated to friends, gets you laughed at.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2024 10:17 PM (u82oZ)

72 It's ESPN. What d'you expect?
Posted by: Dr. T

On average, every monthly cable bill includes $7 for ESPN/Disney.

And a dollar or so for CNN, MSNBC et alia.

Posted by: Miklos so notes at May 04, 2024 10:17 PM (g3rvw)

73 *slides over half-empty bottle of Boones Farm Strawberry Hill*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (bo7UB)


That's just uncalled for. Plenty of port in the world, and some good regional sweet or semi-sweet wines.

Also, why do Boone's Farm when you can have Woodbridge?

Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2024 10:18 PM (g0Y4p)

74 *slides over half-empty bottle of Boones Farm Strawberry Hill*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (bo7UB)

*adds shot of Mogen David*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:18 PM (di6C2)

75 We hate Nottingham Forest,
We hate Everton too – they’re s**t!
We hate Man United,
But Liverpool we love you
All together now! (repeat)
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (UfUdn)

Speaking of the Toffees, they could be in serious financial trouble.

Premier League wouldn’t be the same without them.

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:18 PM (TTAGa)

76 Now I want pork rinds.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:19 PM (di6C2)

77 is the guy trying to save as much paint as he can?

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 10:19 PM (MNhXM)

78 Chicharrones and chelada.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwzL-vhC0Bs

Posted by: Pee Wee Miklos at May 04, 2024 10:19 PM (g3rvw)

79 I'll just take Guinness and sourdough pretzels, please.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:19 PM (TIbVQ)

80 66 Sean McDonough is not impressed with the Bruins' play
Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (/7KEl)

For good reason, they gave no bite in their game tonight, nor last game …

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:19 PM (TTAGa)

81 (perfectly in time, of course).
Posted by: pookysgirl

Just the punch line:
Little Johnny is the only one in step.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:20 PM (ywZXi)

82 Who figured the French would start the next world war?

https://tinyurl.com/bdf4erbn

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 04, 2024 10:20 PM (0eaVi)

83 Now I want pork rinds.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

HOGS AND LACE WIGS FOR SALE

Posted by: Mr. Miklos Haney at May 04, 2024 10:20 PM (g3rvw)

84 Thanks for the ONT MisHum.

Not sure about the mystery click; but, an hour and 33 min of SRV... yeah, I'll take it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (ywZXi)

85 And a dollar or so for CNN, MSNBC et alia.
Posted by: Miklos so notes

Take away their place in the "basic" cable package and they turn of the lights within 2 months.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (vJiyU)

86 Considering that it is Sunday, a bit of drinking is in order.
Posted by: Miklos orders a Round for the ONT house at May 04, 2024 10:14 PM (g3rvw)

Where's the sun ?

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (T4tVD)

87 Thanks for the dandy ONT, Mis Hum!

Great Saturday Night joke too. Wonderful music behind the graphic. Now I know what to drink with my Cab.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (U3L4U)

88 strawberry hill should be paired with slim Jims.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (MNhXM)

89
Ah the ONT, the cool kids table of the AoS....
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:04 PM (vJiyU)

________

*tips Some Rat's lunch tray on the floor*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 10:22 PM (MoZTd)

90 Sauvignon Blanc is not dry, btw.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:23 PM (R0XxO)

91 Have a great night, everyone.

May there be thriving.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 04, 2024 10:23 PM (u82oZ)

92 Hmmm... I'm heading out for a wedding in a week or so...maybe I should be really careful with the food.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (ynpvh)

93 Night NaCLy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (di6C2)

94 "THIS is the shocking moment wedding guests were struck down by a mystery illness after being served a 4-course meal."

That was one of the strangest side-stories in Bullet Train

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (D7oie)

95 Amerks vs Crunch is in OT

Rochester needs to win tonight or they, like the Sabres, are playing🏌️‍♂️

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (TTAGa)

96 *slides over half-empty bottle of Boones Farm Strawberry Hill*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:15 PM (bo7UB)

*adds shot of Mogen David*
Posted by: Aetius451AD

*makes sillabub*

Posted by: It's a Carolina thing at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (g3rvw)

97 Hmmm... I'm heading out for a wedding in a week or so...maybe I should be really careful with the food.
Posted by: jim

In Mexico?
I hope not!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (ywZXi)

98 Chianti with Cheetos

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (R0XxO)

99 'Night Salty!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (g0Y4p)

100 Sauvignon Blanc is not dry, btw.
Posted by: nurse ratched


Hmm, what Assyrtiko do you prefer?

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (IG4Id)

101 strawberry hill should be paired with slim Jims.
Posted by: polynikes

Always thought of the Boone Farm catalogue as being a high school girls libation, so, wouldn't slim jims be right out?

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (vJiyU)

102 Sauvignon Blanc is not dry, btw.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:23 PM (R0XxO)

--------

Correct. A good one is piquant, with top notes of bologna and rutabaga, and a finish like quality gun oil.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (bo7UB)

103 45 I REALLY hope that's plaster in that car.
Is that mean?

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 10:11 PM (1zxQh)

Just wondering what the hell it is. Doesn't look like hagfish...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:26 PM (ynpvh)

104 Where's the sun ?
Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (T4tVD)

Sun, sun, sun, here it comes.

Posted by: George at May 04, 2024 10:26 PM (0eaVi)

105 *tips Some Rat's lunch tray on the floor*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Dude?

Posted by: Miklos never liked the Jocks at May 04, 2024 10:27 PM (g3rvw)

106 94 "THIS is the shocking moment wedding guests were struck down by a mystery illness after being served a 4-course meal."

That was one of the strangest side-stories in Bullet Train

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:24 PM (D7oie)

I don't speak Jive. Anybody here speak Nahuatl Jive?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:27 PM (ynpvh)

107 Bartle's and James wine coolers.


Do they even still make those?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:27 PM (di6C2)

108 Always thought of the Boone Farm catalogue as being a high school girls libation, so, wouldn't slim jims be right out?

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (vJiyU)


Practice.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:27 PM (emlEe)

109 100 Sauvignon Blanc is not dry, btw.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Hmm, what Assyrtiko do you prefer?

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (IG4Id)

Hot Sake.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:27 PM (ynpvh)

110 McSorley's Dark and Saltines with mustard

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:28 PM (RIvkX)

111 Where's the sun ?
Posted by: JT

What goes around, comes around.

Posted by: Miklos, who will put the plants outside tomorrow at May 04, 2024 10:28 PM (g3rvw)

112 32 Sorry I'm late, the stable boy out the saddle on backward.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:06 PM (TIbVQ)

Out the saddle? Saddles are gay now? Cripes, will this shit ever stop?

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (emlEe)

Reverse Gay Cowgirl?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (ynpvh)

113 I'm heading out for a wedding in a week or so...maybe I should be really careful with the food.
Posted by: jim

My boy is getting married next weekend. His fiancé is of Indian (dot) heritage. Her sisters and aunties are cooking for us.

I am in serious trouble.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (WXNFJ)

114 *tips Some Rat's lunch tray on the floor*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Rat looks down and wishes he wasn't 5'7 and 135 lbs in high school.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (vJiyU)

115 Hot Sake.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)?


I wouldn't call that dry. Unless... It's ASAHI DURARIII~!!!

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (IG4Id)

116 Boones Farm is stoner wine, no?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (FkUwd)

117 107 Bartle's and James wine coolers.


Do they even still make those?
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Dunno. But the smell of one might very well make me sick.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (R0XxO)

118 strawberry hill should be paired with slim Jims.
Posted by: polynikes

Always thought of the Boone Farm catalogue as being a high school girls libation, so, wouldn't slim jims be right out?
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:25 PM (vJiyU)

when in HS you provide alcohol that the girls would drink. I forgot that that combo also best if you're in a hot tub when consuming.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (MNhXM)

119 Ok, this annoyed the hell out of me.

Just saw a ewetub title with 'Kelly Clarkson covers Tiffany's 'I think we're alone now!'

Um. What?

https://tinyurl.com/yc6ptept

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (di6C2)

120 Dunno. But the smell of one might very well make me sick.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (R0XxO)

Bad memories?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (di6C2)

121 113 I'm heading out for a wedding in a week or so...maybe I should be really careful with the food.
Posted by: jim

My boy is getting married next weekend. His fiancé is of Indian (dot) heritage. Her sisters and aunties are cooking for us.

I am in serious trouble.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (WXNFJ)

if it's in India, then don't drink the water...
If it's in Mexico, don't drink the water...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (ynpvh)

122 McSorley's Dark and Saltines with mustard
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I have to wonder at the amount of bribes the McSorley's people have paid to stay in business in NY so long.

Posted by: Miklos, noting that Mencken was a customer at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (g3rvw)

123 What?
No love for a good vintage Sterno?
It's like I don't know you people anymore.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (up/to)

124 113 I'm heading out for a wedding in a week or so...maybe I should be really careful with the food.
Posted by: jim

My boy is getting married next weekend. His fiancé is of Indian (dot) heritage. Her sisters and aunties are cooking for us.

I am in serious trouble.
Posted by: Tonypete

You're going to smell like curry for the rest of the month.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (R0XxO)

125 Out the saddle? Saddles are gay now? Cripes, will this shit ever stop?

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (emlEe)

Reverse Gay Cowgirl?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Brokeback Mountain missed an opportunity.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (vJiyU)

126 That reminds me, there's fresh dip in the fridge.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (lCWOD)

127 So tossing a cheeseburger while in handcuffs is a felony offense? I'll try to remember.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 04, 2024 10:09 PM (TSQkU)


Sadly it most likely was under the "You really are trying to piss me off today, aren't you" statutes.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (D7oie)

128 if it's in India, then don't drink the water...
If it's in Mexico, don't drink the water...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (ynpvh)


If it's in Dearborn, don't drink the water...

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (emlEe)

129 My boy is getting married next weekend. His fiancé is of Indian (dot) heritage. Her sisters and aunties are cooking for us.

I am in serious trouble.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (WXNFJ)

if it's in India, then don't drink the water...
If it's in Mexico, don't drink the water...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Lutheran Curry Hot Dish

Posted by: Miklos, former caterer at May 04, 2024 10:31 PM (g3rvw)

130 Winston!

They caught the zebra dammitall! That was the best news story of the year.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:32 PM (R0XxO)

131 My boy is getting married next weekend. His fiancé is of Indian (dot) heritage. Her sisters and aunties are cooking for us.

I am in serious trouble.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 10:29 PM (WXNFJ)

You ain't shittin' !

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 10:32 PM (T4tVD)

132 Home health care nurse - a really good guy about to change jobs - was going through the usual questions with the new gal on my case.

Got to questions about emergency arrangements, and he asked,"So, no DNR?"

I said "No, no DNR. In fact, I have a proviso they should murder a hobo and harvest his organs if that's what it takes to keep me alive."

He had the heartiest belly-laugh I'd heard in a long, long time.

I don't remember from which Moron I stole that joke several moons back, but I'd been waiting for a good chance to use it and found a good one. Glad the guy had a Moron-worthy sense of humor!

Posted by: mindful webworker - always steal from the best at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (qXRfQ)

133 Thanks for the ONT MH,

Slowly coming back here through the insanity.

This week, we ventured out of my small town to a larger city to a Korean store and an asian supermarket. Bought 'Flaming Bulgogi' chips, 'Turtle Chips Churros, which have a chocolate taste and onion ring chips. I was looking for the shrimp flavoured but no luck.

Back to Doctor Who. I just came downstairs to read the entire synopsis with notes and links to stuff I'd be missing otherwise. Nothing says entertainment like research...

Posted by: Stateless at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (jvJvP)

134 119 Ok, this annoyed the hell out of me.

Just saw a ewetub title with 'Kelly Clarkson covers Tiffany's 'I think we're alone now!'

Um. What?

https://tinyurl.com/yc6ptept

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (di6C2)

What about The Shondell's version?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (ynpvh)

135 That reminds me, there's fresh dip in the fridge.
Posted by: Braenyard

It says "March", the year is blurred.

Probably fine.

Posted by: Miklos, unworried at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (g3rvw)

136 What chips go with Annie Green Springs?

Posted by: Wine Snob at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (V5BDR)

137 I have to wonder at the amount of bribes the McSorley's people have paid to stay in business in NY so long.
Posted by: Miklos, noting that Mencken was a customer at May 04, 2024 10:30 PM (g3rvw)
===
The same guy who brought us beers in 80s is still there.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (RIvkX)

138 seriously, this game will end 1-0

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (/7KEl)

139 NVM

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (ynpvh)

140 Bad memories?
-------
Southern Comfort.

First case of the bed-spins.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (UfUdn)

141 Hiya Nurse!
I saw that! I haz the sadz though.
Having a zebra make monkeys out of the animal control people for a week was hilarious.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (up/to)

142 somebody has to win, right

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (/7KEl)

143 High School girl friend's parent's were fond of Night Train for late night libations.

Made for some interesting card games.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (Q4IgG)

144 Amerks win in OVERRRRRRTIME

There will be a game 5 …

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (TTAGa)

145 At a concert, maybe Grand Funk, and somebody passed a bottle of Boone’s Farm up to the stage to the band. Whoever (don’t recall which) took it said ‘This shit’s better than ExLax!’. Good times in the early 70s.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (NxC5+)

146 They caught the zebra dammitall! That was the best news story of the year.
Posted by: nurse ratched

When?! How?

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (vJiyU)

147 Just saw a ewetub title with 'Kelly Clarkson covers Tiffany's 'I think we're alone now!'

Um. What?

Nuh Uh

Lene Lovitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHAfUsolPS4

Posted by: 80s kid Miklos at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (g3rvw)

148 What about The Shondell's version?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (ynpvh)

... That was the Shondell's version?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (di6C2)

149 138 seriously, this game will end 1-0

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (/7KEl)

The Aztec basketball ended with the same score. Except the losing team really lost.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (ynpvh)

150 His fiancé...
----
Two EEs for the feminine. His fiancée ...

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (UfUdn)

151 136 What chips go with Annie Green Springs?
Posted by: Wine Snob at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (V5BDR)

------------

I would go with lead paint.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (bo7UB)

152 Southern Comfort.

First case of the bed-spins.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (UfUdn)


As a first bad drunk, that shit will do it to you -- for life. Can't stand the smell of it to this day after that high school graduation night all those . . . few years ago.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (emlEe)

153
Rain expected tomorrow so I got the estate mowed. I felt bad that I was mowing a lot of flowering clover because the bees are attracted to it. But we have a lot of other flowering plants in the garden.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (MoZTd)

154 Southern Comfort.

First case of the bed-spins.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (UfUdn)

Southern Comfort and Dr Pepper. One of the handful of times in my life I have had an actual hangover.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (di6C2)

155 140 Bad memories?
-------
Southern Comfort.

First case of the bed-spins.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (UfUdn)

Bottle of Brandy. Worshipped at the porcelain god the next morn, still don't know how much money I gave the pizza guy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (ynpvh)

156 150 His fiancé...
----
Two EEs for the feminine. His fiancée ...
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (UfUdn)

*arches an eyebrow*

Posted by: Pete Buttigege at May 04, 2024 10:37 PM (di6C2)

157 They caught the zebra dammitall! That was the best news story of the year.
Posted by: nurse ratched

When?! How?
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (vJiyU)

They painted it brown

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 10:37 PM (T4tVD)

158 What chips go with Annie Green Springs?
Posted by: Wine Snob at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (V5BDR)

------------

I would go with lead paint.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (bo7UB)


Is there something quicker, like cyanide chips?

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:37 PM (emlEe)

159 Southern Comfort and Cranberry

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:37 PM (RIvkX)

160 142 somebody has to win, right

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (/7KEl)

Unless both sides are losers...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:38 PM (ynpvh)

161 159 Southern Comfort and Cranberry
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:37 PM (RIvkX)

Hmmm, horrible?

The sour might cut a bit of the sweetness.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (di6C2)

162 148 What about The Shondell's version?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (ynpvh)

... That was the Shondell's version?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:35 PM (di6C2)

Why I then posted (NVM)...nevermind...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (ynpvh)

163 Rat!

https://tinyurl.com/mvm2jwf5

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (R0XxO)

164 Well, for true cranberry juice, not the sweet as hell ocean spray stuff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (di6C2)

165 High School girl friend's parent's were fond of Night Train for late night libations.

Made for some interesting card games.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

FUN FACT

Sticks McGee's "Drinking wine Spodee-odee" from 1949 has the line "a bottle of wine, he hit that cat for a dollar and a dime"

I saw Night Trian for sale in Kenner, LA in 1983 for $1.10

Posted by: Miklos saw INFLATION FIGHTERS IN ACTION at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (g3rvw)

166 Her sisters and aunties are cooking for us.

I am in serious trouble.
-----
Naan bread piece in your mouth if the particular dish is too spicy; and alot of rice to fight the runs.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (UfUdn)

167 Why I then posted (NVM)...nevermind...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (ynpvh)

Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:39 PM (di6C2)

168 Personally, I think Fritos go best with a bottle of Thunderbird.

James Mason would agree with me.

https://tinyurl.com/47dr83m4

Posted by: Paco at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (njExo)

169 Two EEs for the feminine. His fiancée ...
Posted by: andycanuck

I wouldn't say double EEs but DDs at least.

He's a smart kid.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (WXNFJ)

170 150 His fiancé...
----
Two EEs for the feminine. His fiancée ...
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:36 PM (UfUdn)

She gets two Electrical Engineers? I thought it was two girls for every boy, not the other way around...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (ynpvh)

171 And a lucky fan's got a puck!

Posted by: zombie foster hewitt at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (UfUdn)

172 Bartle's and James wine coolers.
Do they even still make those?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at
--------
Dunno but Ed and Frank thank you for your support.
Evening all. Thanks for the ONT, MisHum.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (5UgbP)

173 Leafs!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (R0XxO)

174 Nylander scores … AGAIN

🍁1-🐻9

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:41 PM (TTAGa)

175 I saw Night Trian for sale in Kenner, LA in 1983 for $1.10

------------

The aging process accounts for most of the cost. Polyethylene barrels don't come cheap.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 10:41 PM (bo7UB)

176 Southern Comfort.

First case of the bed-spins.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:34 PM (UfUdn)

Bottle of Brandy. Worshipped at the porcelain god the next morn, still don't know how much money I gave the pizza guy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Slo Gin....got caught by my dad heaving in the front yard. Got me up the next day and me mow and mow and mow. Lord I was sick...

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:41 PM (vJiyU)

177 Leafs score. 1-0, Toronto.

No dog in the fight. I have the TV on at work. I'm barely paying attention to it. Happen to look up as they scored.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 10:41 PM (+J/Au)

178 The Aztec basketball ended with the same score. Except the losing team really lost.
Posted by: jim

*raises still beating hearts of the defeated*

Posted by: Miklos knows the Aztec wey at May 04, 2024 10:41 PM (g3rvw)

179 He shoots! He scores!

Posted by: zombie foster hewitt at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (UfUdn)

180 Go Leafs!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (LkLld)

181 🤦‍♂️
🐻0

Not 9

🤦‍♂️

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (TTAGa)

182 [Didn't think I'd be using that sock twice in this thread.]

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (UfUdn)

183 Man, I must have been doing it wrong. I emptied a 7-UP bottle (real glass), poured Southern Comfort into it, and drank '7-UP' all night. I hated washing the side of the car off the next morning. The pounding head distracted from the nausea resulting from the smell.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (emlEe)

184 Tie game

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (R0XxO)

185 Who figured the French would start the next world war?
https://tinyurl.com/bdf4erbn
Posted by: OrangeEnt


Probably just want to get a jump on being the first to surrender.

But seriously, that's some really Biden-level stupid.

Pity the French troops thrown into that mess.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bingo! at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (qXRfQ)

186 🐻 Score

OMG

1-1

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (TTAGa)

187 I dislike Boston. Indifferent to Toronto. I despise the Flyers with a white hot passion of a thousand burning suns. They missed the playoffs and that is good.

And....it's tied. 1-1.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (+J/Au)

188
Leafs score. 1-0, Toronto.

________

Boston has them where they want them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (MoZTd)

189 Chicago-born man says Can't Stop Eatin' those Jay's!

Posted by: Cicero KABOOM! Kid. Woke up with 4 before at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (hirWM)

190 What chips go with Annie Green Springs?
Posted by: Wine Snob at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (V5BDR)


Funions

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (D7oie)

191 fuck

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (LkLld)

192 Mammy Eromero’s baby brother, my old drinking buddy, chased Southern Comfort with green Gatorade.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (NxC5+)

193 Go Leafs!
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:42 PM (LkLld)

You’ll cake walk either team …

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:44 PM (TTAGa)

194 Hiya Nurse!
I saw that! I haz the sadz though.
Having a zebra make monkeys out of the animal control people for a week was hilarious.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty

How many of the animal control folks are eating bananas and bugs, and flinging poo? Did the number go up as a result of the zebra?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 10:44 PM (VNX3d)

195 No dog in the fight. I have the TV on at work. I'm barely paying attention to it. Happen to look up as they scored.
------
Did you look up again??

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:44 PM (UfUdn)

196 Here we go 1-1

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:45 PM (/7KEl)

197 Rat!

https://tinyurl.com/mvm2jwf5

Posted by: nurse ratched


Ahhh, Thank You!

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:45 PM (vJiyU)

198 Drinking ice-cold Lambrusco with my wife in the jacuzzi works for me.

Posted by: Cicero KABOOM! Kid. Woke up with 4 before at May 04, 2024 10:45 PM (hirWM)

199 Personally, I think Fritos go best with a bottle of Thunderbird.
https://tinyurl.com/47dr83m4
Posted by: Paco
--------
Mad Dog 20/20....Thunderbird...

Posted by: Confused Liver at May 04, 2024 10:45 PM (5UgbP)

200 Who figured the French would start the next world war?
https://tinyurl.com/bdf4erbn
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Probably just want to get a jump on being the first to surrender.

But seriously, that's some really Biden-level stupid.

Pity the French troops thrown into that mess.
Posted by: mindful webworker - bingo!

Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 10:46 PM (VNX3d)

201 True fact:

In the southern hemisphere your bed spins are counter clockwise.

So... if you're near the equator and get wasted, just go south and eventually it'll unwind.

*Shit someone said somewhere south of the equator.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 10:46 PM (Q4IgG)

202 Pity the French troops thrown into that mess.
Posted by: mindful webworker - bingo! at May 04, 2024 10:43 PM (qXRfQ)



Not French troops. It's the Foreign Legion.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 10:46 PM (8zz6B)

203 fuck
Posted by: JackStraw

Now?

Posted by: Darleen, Marleen, and Charleen at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (g3rvw)

204 "U. Wisconsin Anti-Israel Protesters Chant ‘Heil Hitler’ at Jewish Students."

What the actual fuck is going on here?

They do realize, by the arguments liberals have made for the past 60 years now, we would be perfectly justified in *types* *deletes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (di6C2)

205 I've been told that this is appropriate for 5/4:

https://youtu.be/PHdU5sHigYQ?si=OA0ireLeKoPKJoMc

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (TIbVQ)

206 Mad Dog 20/20....Thunderbird...
Posted by: Confused Liver at May 04, 2024 10:45 PM (5UgbP)


Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it

🤮

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (TTAGa)

207 Old English 800 and Funyuns

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (R0XxO)

208 Slo Gin....got caught by my dad heaving in the front yard. Got me up the next day and me mow and mow and mow. Lord I was sick...
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:41 PM (vJiyU)
===
The Peppermint Schnapps Incident

It ended with me being driven home in shame berated in Croatian the whole time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (RIvkX)

209 Worst drinking experience of all time for me was sake. Christmas party with a bunch of Japanese students playing a game of "how much will this gaijin drink?" Answer: enough to float the battleship Yamamoto. That was the only time where I ever woke up thinking "oh, thank God I'm alive!" and then spent 12 hours wishing I wasn't.

Posted by: PabloD at May 04, 2024 10:48 PM (lWpUQ)

210 Miklos, Lene Lovitch was really selling that song in some of the videos.
which is scary in itself

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:48 PM (D7oie)

211 I'm rooting for the Americans

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:48 PM (/7KEl)

212 "U. Wisconsin Anti-Israel Protesters Chant ‘Heil Hitler’ at Jewish Students."
What the actual fuck is going on here?
They do realize, by the arguments liberals have made for the past 60 years now, we would be perfectly justified in *types* *deletes*
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Punch a Nazi time. Those are the rules I've been told.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:48 PM (5UgbP)

213 Evening everyone, thx ,MisHum. Stevie Ray Vaughan could play the shit out of a guitar

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 04, 2024 10:49 PM (5S+sK)

214 "U. Wisconsin Anti-Israel Protesters Chant ‘Heil Hitler’ at Jewish Students."

What the actual fuck is going on here?

They do realize, by the arguments liberals have made for the past 60 years now, we would be perfectly justified in *types* *deletes*
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Is that at Madison? I never thought the wisest went to Madison - at least not for an education. For drinking and partying, yes.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 10:49 PM (VNX3d)

215 205 I've been told that this is appropriate for 5/4:

https://youtu.be/PHdU5sHigYQ?si=OA0ireLeKoPKJoMc

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (TIbVQ)

And here I was expecting something Star Wars related.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:49 PM (ynpvh)

216 Mark Twain-"Golf is a good walk spoiled"

Miklos on Ice Hockey-"Just go ahead and have a fight"

Posted by: Epigrammatic Miklos at May 04, 2024 10:50 PM (g3rvw)

217 MisHum, remember PT = Pain and Torture. But it all pays off in the end.. Prayers up for you!

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 04, 2024 10:50 PM (7ZQe3)

218 >>Posted by: browndog

What is better than hockey?

If you know, you know.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:50 PM (LkLld)

219 Cops: Handcuffed Man, 73, Hit Officer With "Forcibly" Thrown Cheeseburger

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He looks like the kind of guy who would forcibly throw a cheeseburger at you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:50 PM (L/fGl)

220 Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?
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Yes.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:50 PM (UfUdn)

221 U. Wisconsin Anti-Israel Protesters Chant ‘Heil Hitler’ at Jewish Students."

What the actual fuck is going on here?

They do realize, by the arguments liberals have made for the past 60 years now, we would be perfectly justified in *types* *deletes*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:47 PM (di6C2)

I hate Illinois Wisconsin Nazis.

Posted by: Joliet Jake Blues at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (8zz6B)

222 Worst drinking experience of all time for me was sake. Christmas party with a bunch of Japanese students playing a game of "how much will this gaijin drink?" Answer: enough to float the battleship Yamamoto. That was the only time where I ever woke up thinking "oh, thank God I'm alive!" and then spent 12 hours wishing I wasn't.
Posted by: PabloD
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Introduction to Long Island Iced Tea. Vancouver, BC, 1988. Flipped off a Mountie. He was not impressed.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (5UgbP)

223 From Wikipedia front page:

>Did you know ... that Susanna Hoffs (pictured) sang on the studio recording of "Eternal Flame" naked after producer Davitt Sigerson pranked her by saying that Olivia Newton-John had done the same thing?

😏

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (MYL3b)

224 Peach Schnapps did me in at a college Christmas party. it was paired with other beverages but I know it was the culprit.

only time the room went spinning on me.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (MNhXM)

225 TY for ONT MH. As I often drink Merlot now, watered down by about a third, I like to pair it w/ 7 yo sharp cheddar from Rudolph WI and crackers, maybe some Usinger Low-fat Summer Sausage. Works for me

Posted by: Farmer at May 04, 2024 10:52 PM (55Qr6)

226 Miklos, Lene Lovitch was really selling that song in some of the videos.
which is scary in itself
Posted by: Kindltot

There was an East German chick....

Posted by: Miklos recalls the liner notes-"you'll like her, OR ELSE" at May 04, 2024 10:52 PM (g3rvw)

227 Did you know ... that Susanna Hoffs (pictured) sang on the studio recording of "Eternal Flame" naked after producer Davitt Sigerson pranked her by saying that Olivia Newton-John had done the same thing?

😏
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

TAKE MY MONEY

Posted by: PPV Miklos at May 04, 2024 10:53 PM (g3rvw)

228 222 Worst drinking experience of all time for me was sake. Christmas party with a bunch of Japanese students playing a game of "how much will this gaijin drink?" Answer: enough to float the battleship Yamamoto. That was the only time where I ever woke up thinking "oh, thank God I'm alive!" and then spent 12 hours wishing I wasn't.
Posted by: PabloD
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Introduction to Long Island Iced Tea. Vancouver, BC, 1988. Flipped off a Mountie. He was not impressed.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (5UgbP)

Hah!
Wife told me a story about before we met up again. She didn't know that the Long Island Iced Tea was boozy. So she's out with her BF at the time, and was impressed with how good they were. Lo and behold, she drinks too much. Now some people are happy drunks, others are angry drunks...she was, according to her own words, a "Bitchy drunk". LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:53 PM (ynpvh)

229 220 Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?
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Yes.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)

I know, I’m an optimistic cynic, or a cynical optimist. Take your pick.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 10:54 PM (VNX3d)

230 What is better than hockey?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:50 PM (LkLld)


Playoff hockey.

What is better than playoff hockey? Game 7s.

What is better than game 7s?

OT.

etc.etc.etc.

That '94 semi-final Game 7 against the Devils in double OT still gets me, and I was there. One for the ages.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 10:54 PM (emlEe)

231 >Did you know ... that Susanna Hoffs (pictured) sang on the studio recording of "Eternal Flame" naked after producer Davitt Sigerson pranked her by saying that Olivia Newton-John had done the same thing?

😏
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (MYL3b)

At that time of her life, I don’t think you really had to do more than ask her …

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:54 PM (TTAGa)

232
168 Personally, I think Fritos go best with a bottle of Thunderbird.

James Mason would agree with me.

https://tinyurl.com/47dr83m4
Posted by: Paco at May 04, 2024 10:40 PM (njExo)
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Holy cow, that's wilder than Orson Welles for Gallo!

Now I want to see an AI of John Gielgud pitching Night Train. No, Colt 45 Malt Likker!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:54 PM (FkUwd)

233 Ouzo - gave me the 3 axis spins: pushed the mattress into the corner of the room and then one hand on the wall of the side, other hand on the wall at the head of the mattress and one foot on the floor.

It was my only hope.

Still can't touch the stuff.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 10:54 PM (WXNFJ)

234 U. Wisconsin Anti-Israel Protesters Chant ‘Heil Hitler’ at Jewish Students."

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Remember, they're not anti-Jewish, just anti-Zionists.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:55 PM (L/fGl)

235 Old English 800 and Funyuns
Posted by: nurse ratched

*offers a Mickey's Big Mouth and pork rinds*

Posted by: Totally keto Miklos at May 04, 2024 10:55 PM (g3rvw)

236 Susanna Hoffs gives the best side eye.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 10:56 PM (MNhXM)

237 Peach Schnapps did me in at a college Christmas party. it was paired with other beverages but I know it was the culprit.

only time the room went spinning on me.
Posted by: polynikes

Peach Schnapps and orange juice(Fuzzy Navel) is quite tasty.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 10:56 PM (oaGWv)

238 223 From Wikipedia front page:

>Did you know ... that Susanna Hoffs (pictured) sang on the studio recording of "Eternal Flame" naked after producer Davitt Sigerson pranked her by saying that Olivia Newton-John had done the same thing?

😏

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 04, 2024 10:51 PM (MYL3b)
http://tiny.cc/8sqxxz

"...Hoffs embraced the experience fully, going so far as to record the entire album, 1988's Everything, in the buff."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 10:56 PM (ynpvh)

239 What is better than hockey?

Something something lamentations of their women.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:56 PM (RIvkX)

240
Something something lamentations of their women.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Shades of the last thread!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:57 PM (ywZXi)

241 Posted by: Stateless at May 04, 2024 10:33 PM (jvJvP)

Welcome aboard

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2024 10:57 PM (QXQ4l)

242 It says "March", the year is blurred.

Probably fine.
Posted by: Miklos, unworried
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Didn't make my tongue tingle, unless I go into heaves tonight I'm OK.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 10:57 PM (lCWOD)

243 Someone’s going home upset …

I really don’t care who at the moment

With less than four minutes left in regulation time

🐻1 - 🍁1

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 10:57 PM (TTAGa)

244 I wonder if car insurance covers that paint accident pictured above. Those poor people.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 10:58 PM (oaGWv)

245 A gallon jug of Gallo white would last about 15 minutes during the summer.

The throwing up afterwards would last about two hours tho'.

Piss poor waste of good crabs, corn and potato salad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 10:58 PM (Q4IgG)

246 U. Wisconsin Anti-Israel Protesters Chant ‘Heil Hitler’ at Jewish Students."

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Remember, they're not anti-Jewish, just anti-Zionists.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:55 PM (L/fGl)

just yell back "Hitler committed suicide"

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 10:59 PM (MNhXM)

247 Shades of the last thread!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:57 PM (ywZXi)
===

Finally someone appreciates my work.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 10:59 PM (RIvkX)

248 >>What is better than hockey?

>Playoff hockey.


This guy gets ie

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:59 PM (LkLld)

249 Susanna Hoffs gives the best side eye.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yes. Smoke.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:59 PM (5UgbP)

250 A gallon jug of Gallo white would last about 15 minutes during the summer.

The throwing up afterwards would last about two hours tho'.

Piss poor waste of good crabs, corn and potato salad.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Moderation in all things.

Posted by: Ancient non-homo Greek Philosopher Mikloscrates at May 04, 2024 11:01 PM (g3rvw)

251 I'm very surprised no one has mentioned Ripple yet.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 11:01 PM (WXNFJ)

252 Holy shit!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:02 PM (V+Elf)

253 Martini and Rossi on the rocks.


Say yes!

Posted by: Rum Dum at May 04, 2024 11:02 PM (V5BDR)

254 it

How hard it is to type i an t?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:02 PM (LkLld)

255 I'm very surprised no one has mentioned Ripple yet.
Posted by: Tonypete
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We are all trying to forget.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 11:03 PM (5UgbP)

256 Did you know ... that Susanna Hoffs (pictured) sang on the studio recording of "Eternal Flame" naked after producer Davitt Sigerson pranked her by saying that Olivia Newton-John had done the same thing?

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Speaking of Bimbo singers . . .

Britney Spears Spotted as Police & Paramedics Respond to Alleged Incident at Hotel

https://shorturl.at/oqO07

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She looks nucking futs in the picture. I'd say that conservatorship was lifted a might early early and maybe, just maybe, her dad wasn't the ogre he was portrayed to be.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 11:03 PM (L/fGl)

257 OT

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 11:03 PM (+J/Au)

258 And CBC wheels out the Guess Who’s “No Time”…

O/T here we come

Posted by: browndog says Stevie G was the better of Scholes or Lampard at May 04, 2024 11:04 PM (TTAGa)

259 Pookette is securely in bed (with books confiscated). Sounds like she had enough fun to forget about her new band shoes giving her blisters. She's also old enough to complain about inflation but not old enough to vote. ;-)

Posted by: pookysgirl, marching band mom at May 04, 2024 11:04 PM (dtlDP)

260 256: I don't think Susanna Hoffs was a bimbo. A bit naive early on apparently, but not a bimbo. I think she's been married to the same guy for decades. She's aged quite well to. Looked pretty damn good the last I saw her.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 11:05 PM (+J/Au)

261 200 Who figured the French would start the next world war?
https://tinyurl.com/bdf4erbn
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Probably just want to get a jump on being the first to surrender.

But seriously, that's some really Biden-level stupid.

Pity the French troops thrown into that mess.
Posted by: mindful webworker - bingo!

Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 10:46 PM (VNX3d)

Just like WW2 initially started with small wars, that escalated as everyone was forced to choose sides...

IMO WW3 has already started... we are just still in the choosing sides phase.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2024 11:05 PM (xaFKb)

262
*offers a Mickey's Big Mouth and pork rinds*
Posted by: Totally keto Miklos


Kamala's Big Mouth and Bugles

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 11:05 PM (63Dwl)

263 Officials said private citizens joined animal control officers from RASKC to make the rescue. RASKC noted that the zebra seemed to be in good condition despite her being on the loose for nearly a week.

Zebra had plenty of grass and shrubs for the taking, so this is not a surprise. Now, if it had been a lion which was found well-fed after a week in suburbia...

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 11:06 PM (Js20g)

264 There are no Off Topics in the ONT.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:06 PM (UfUdn)

265 I'm very surprised no one has mentioned Ripple yet.
Posted by: Tonypete

We mixed it with some Andre and called it Champipple.

Posted by: Fred G. Sanford, Grady, Skillet, and Miklos at May 04, 2024 11:06 PM (g3rvw)

266 A gallon jug of Gallo white would last about 15 minutes during the summer.


Remember Gallo Hearty Burgundy? Just married, with little money to spare it was served at many an impromptu dinner party. Wonder if they still make it?

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 11:07 PM (oaGWv)

267 Mix it with creme de menthe for some Cripple

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:08 PM (/7KEl)

268 There are no Off Topics in the ONT.
Posted by: andycanuck


Still waiting for a drier white wine other than varietals of Sauvignon.

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 11:08 PM (IG4Id)

269 We will sell no hobo before its time.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:08 PM (UfUdn)

270 Posted by: pookysgirl

Congrats!
That's a big accomplishment for our children!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 11:09 PM (ywZXi)

271 Romania vs. Bulgaria

Opinions?

Posted by: pawn at May 04, 2024 11:09 PM (QB+5g)

272 Good evening, Hordelings!
Love that SRV video. OK, I love ALL videos of SRV.

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2024 11:09 PM (RFPHU)

273 >>> just yell back "Hitler committed suicide"
Posted by: polynikes
-----------------------

Or - "Hitler committed suicide", try it.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:10 PM (lCWOD)

274 >>I'm very surprised no one has mentioned Ripple yet.



https://tinyurl.com/36au38hx

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:10 PM (LkLld)

275 Remember Gallo Hearty Burgundy? Just married, with little money to spare it was served at many an impromptu dinner party. Wonder if they still make it?
Posted by: Tuna

Just married, new apartment, new town, no furniture, and a eating a pizza while sitting on the floor with Gallo.

Wow does that bring back the memories.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 11:10 PM (WXNFJ)

276 Who figured the French would start the next world war?

One possible October Surprise is Biden starting WWIII by sending troops to Ukraine.

Of course aren't there "international laws" that ban things like sending your troops into a war without formally declaring war? If Russia hits Paris with missiles after France sends troops into combat that would be perfectly legal by those nominal laws but I guess that is what Macron wants...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 11:10 PM (ibTVg)

277 There are no Off Topics in the ONT.
Posted by: andycanuck

Still waiting for a drier white wine other than varietals of Sauvignon.
Posted by: weft Carnac

An excellent selection, Monsieur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEt9vqJc9ls

Posted by: Le Mikleuse at May 04, 2024 11:11 PM (g3rvw)

278 264 There are no Off Topics in the ONT.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:06 PM (UfUdn)

But plenty of off color.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2024 11:12 PM (TIbVQ)

279 Pookette sounds like a cool girl

Most not all the band kids were pretty straight edge in my h.s.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:12 PM (RIvkX)

280 Speaking of chicks in the 80's

Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo have been together for 35+ years.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:13 PM (Q4IgG)

281 These espn douchebags are insufferable

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:13 PM (NColS)

282 >>>Ripple yet.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Boone's Farm Apple Wine

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:13 PM (lCWOD)

283 254 it

How hard it is to type i an t?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:02 PM (LkLld)

Depends if my hands have a different work in mind...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (ynpvh)

284 One possible October Surprise is Biden starting WWIII by sending troops to Ukraine.

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We'll also be at war with Israel and Japan before Potatohead gets his walking papers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (bo7UB)

285 Who figured the French would start the next world war?

One possible October Surprise is Biden starting WWIII by sending troops to Ukraine.

Of course aren't there "international laws" that ban things like sending your troops into a war without formally declaring war? If Russia hits Paris with missiles after France sends troops into combat that would be perfectly legal by those nominal laws but I guess that is what Macron wants...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 11:10 PM (ibTVg)

If Russia has extra weapons, they _could_ just arms the French muslims and turn them loose. I don’t think that’s too likely, but it would be cheaper and more likely to have an effect.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (VNX3d)

286 WTF is France thinking?

I thought I couldn't dislike the French more than I already did.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (MNhXM)

287 No love for Lancer wine? It’s like I don’t even know you people anymore. The bottle was clay, clay!!

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 04, 2024 11:15 PM (ZTJjv)

288 Fun Fact:

Sour Patch Gummies pair well with any liquor.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 11:15 PM (XV/Pl)

289 I thought the OT reference might have been a warning to MisHum about occupational therapy, to go along with physical therapy.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:16 PM (VNX3d)

290 Just realized I don't like recalling my inebriated episodes. Long time ago; not long enough ago.

So I think I'll tune out of this thread. I hear tomorrow calling.

https://youtu.be/NvzeG-5cP3U

G'nite y'all

💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - only a day away at May 04, 2024 11:16 PM (qXRfQ)

291 Laurence Fox @LozzaFox
The Mayor of London is a Muslim.

The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.

The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.

Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.

The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.

The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.

The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.

The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.

The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim

All this was achieved by only 4 million Muslims out of 66 million people in England:

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:16 PM (UfUdn)

292 Laurence Fox @LozzaFox
Today there are over 3,000 mosques in England.

There are over 130 sharia courts.

There are more than 50 Sharia Councils.

78 percent of Muslim women do not work, receive state support + free accommodation.

63 percent of Muslims do not work, receive state support + free housing.

State-supported Muslim families with an average of 6 to 8 children receive free accommodation.

Now every school in the UK is required to teach lessons about Islam.

Has anyone ever been given an opportunity to vote for this?

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:16 PM (UfUdn)

293 286 WTF is France thinking?
-------------------------------

A question never asked before.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:16 PM (lCWOD)

294 Sour Patch Gummies pair well with any liquor.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Geez, was my life view narrow.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 11:16 PM (vJiyU)

295 This is delicious champagne.

It's not champagne! It's Martini & Rossi Asti Spumante!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:17 PM (RIvkX)

296 I'm very surprised no one has mentioned Ripple yet.
Posted by: Tonypete

How about Boones Farm? Had an unfortunate experience with Boones Farm and under grilled hamburgers the night before I was supposed to go and try on wedding dresses. My mother was not pleased with me. Also, got hit with an empty Boones Farm bottle at an OSU/Michigan game up in Ann Arbor. Damn Wolverines.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 11:17 PM (oaGWv)

297 No French.
/obligatory

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:17 PM (RIvkX)

298 292 Laurence Fox @LozzaFox
Today there are over 3,000 mosques in England.
There are over 130 sharia courts.
There are more than 50 Sharia Councils.
78 percent of Muslim women do not work, receive state support + free accommodation.
63 percent of Muslims do not work, receive state support + free housing.
State-supported Muslim families with an average of 6 to 8 children receive free accommodation.
Now every school in the UK is required to teach lessons about Islam.
Has anyone ever been given an opportunity to vote for this?
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)
-------------------------------

But they need these people because of the dwindling workforce population.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (lCWOD)

299 Mateus bottles make wonderful candle holders after you chug the bottle.

Posted by: Portugee Pride at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (V5BDR)

300 Still waiting for a drier white wine other than varietals of Sauvignon.
Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 11:08 PM (IG4Id)


For all the fun I/we poke at the French, go with a white Bordeaux. Dry, crisp, excellent wine. They have a bit of heft so not as light as most whites. And from what I remember, way cheaper than the Italian Santa Margharita Pinot Grigios, too.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (emlEe)

301 281 These espn douchebags are insufferable
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That's what I said... sorta.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (UfUdn)

302 Anyway, son #1 came over for dinner tonight. I made chicken enchiladas. We started with some prawns sautéed in butter, garlic, lime and cilantro and served with chips and fresh salsa.

We watched baseball together and had a lovely evening. So nice to share an evening with my adult kid. And I'm so happy he enjoys sharing time with his old mom.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (sPVU9)

303 Also... this:

https://tinyurl.com/56rn5sw7

Nighty night....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (Q4IgG)

304 283 254 it

How hard it is to type i an t?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:02 PM (LkLld)

Depends if my hands have a different work in mind...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (ynpvh)

I sometimes feel like controlling my fingers is like Dr. Strangelove trying to control his arm...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:19 PM (ynpvh)

305 All this was achieved by only 4 million Muslims out of 66 million people in England:
Posted by: andycanuck

So

Will this affect Pub hours?

Posted by: Miklos likes cellar temperature ale at May 04, 2024 11:19 PM (g3rvw)

306 Andycanuck! How are you?

I owe you an email, sir.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:19 PM (sPVU9)

307 I hope the French bring their accordions.

That will really bring the Russians to their knees!

Posted by: pawn at May 04, 2024 11:20 PM (QB+5g)

308 Boone's Farm Apple Wine

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:13 PM (lCWOD)
===
Manischewitz Apple Sauterne

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:20 PM (RIvkX)

309 304 283 254 it

How hard it is to type i an t?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:02 PM (LkLld)

Depends if my hands have a different work in mind...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (ynpvh)

I sometimes feel like controlling my fingers is like Dr. Strangelove trying to control his arm...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:19 PM (ynpvh)

I've been on phone all night, and that shit gets old.

I'm back on my laptop for now

BRUIINS WINNNNN

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (TTAGa)

310 But they need these people because of the dwindling workforce population.
--------
Just like illegals in the U.S. and over-immigration here.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (UfUdn)

311 281 These espn douchebags are insufferable
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Since we are talking about the French also, douchebaguettes.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (5UgbP)

312 Friday, the Medal of Freedom awarded to
John Kerry, Al Gore, and Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (lCWOD)

313 295 This is delicious champagne.

It's not champagne! It's Martini & Rossi Asti Spumante!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:17 PM (RIvkX)

When you have good taste, it shows.

Posted by: Biden's Uncle Eating Cannibal at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (ynpvh)

314 Woof. Bruins win

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (sPVU9)

315 Has anyone ever been given an opportunity to vote for this?
Posted by: andycanuck

Perhaps they learned from us that one can just regulate a populus to death.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (vJiyU)

316 The streak continues!

Although at least this was a noble loss unlike 2013. [spits]

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (UfUdn)

317 I read a theory that France sending a few troops, the US sending an inadequate amount of equipment and money, etc. is all just desperate jockeying for position in the upcoming "Who Lost Ukraine?" debate.
When Russia accepts Ukraine's surrender, and tells the US and Europe that they're not invited to the peace negotiations, the international order is going to be shaken to the core.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 11:22 PM (Js20g)

318 We started with some prawns sautéed in butter, garlic, lime and cilantro and served with chips and fresh salsa.


Posted by: nurse ratched

Prawns?

Sumptin like shrimps?

Posted by: Miklos ain't no Englisher fancy-pants (no pants at all in fact) at May 04, 2024 11:22 PM (g3rvw)

319 Boston scores in OT. They move on. Toronto doesn't. Again. Get those golf clubs out guys!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 11:22 PM (+J/Au)

320 Good night, thank you for coming, drive safely ...

You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

***

Leafs Nation are scrambling for tee times

Posted by: browndog is OK with this turn of events at May 04, 2024 11:23 PM (TTAGa)

321 Good evening y'all! I'll be over here in the corner if anyone needs me.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (l4B/J)

322 Although at least this was a noble loss unlike 2013. [spits]
Posted by: andycanuck

*offers some Red Man*

Do it rite

Posted by: Miklos hopes you have a proper spittoon at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (g3rvw)

323 316 The streak continues!

Although at least this was a noble loss unlike 2013. [spits]

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:21 PM (UfUdn)

https://youtu.be/XtzoUu7w-YM&t=56s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (ynpvh)

324 They have a bit of heft so not as light as most whites. And from what I remember, way cheaper than the Italian Santa Margharita Pinot Grigios, too.
Posted by: RickZ


I've been on the hunt for a dry wine for cooking and, on average, Sav is dah bomb. I get that there are vineyard exclusive bottles, but for the average cook?

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (IG4Id)

325 Well, no one will be able to tell where all the money went when they lose. I think that's the idea.

Posted by: pawn at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (QB+5g)

326 321 Good evening y'all! I'll be over here in the corner if anyone needs me.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (l4B/J)

Ya might want to check on any Leafs fans ...

Broken hearts and all that

Posted by: browndog is OK with this turn of events at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (TTAGa)

327 French: douchebaguettes
Germans: deutschbags

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (FkUwd)

328 Lancer and Mateus were for special occasions. Memories of the 70's.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (oaGWv)

329 No love for Lancer wine? It’s like I don’t even know you people anymore. The bottle was clay, clay!!
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel

In my circle, at the time, we that that was the good stuff.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (WXNFJ)

330 Well, I am getting an early one. Got to be up at 0630 tomorrow. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (8zz6B)

331 321 Good evening y'all! I'll be over here in the corner if anyone needs me.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (l4B/J)

Howdy there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (ynpvh)

332 Good evening y'all! I'll be over here in the corner if anyone needs me.
Posted by: Muldoon

* *

Posted by: Severely autistic Miklos, rocking silently in a corner at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (g3rvw)

333 Andycanuck! How are you?

I owe you an email, sir.
--------
I'm fine but nothing big going on so our correspondence would be brief.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:26 PM (UfUdn)

334 @305

>>Will this affect Pub hours?

Well, Islam does not permit alcohol, so at some point, England's new Moorish Masters are going to start shutting down the pubs and won't that be a sight to see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 11:26 PM (XV/Pl)

335 327 French: douchebaguettes
Germans: deutschbags

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (FkUwd)

LOL, douchbaguettes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:26 PM (ynpvh)

336
I hope the French bring their accordions.

That will really bring the Russians to their knees!
Posted by: pawn


How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Pareeeee?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 11:26 PM (63Dwl)

337 Prawns?

Sumptin like shrimps?
Posted by: Miklos ain't no Englisher fancy-pants (no pants at all in fact)

Big shrimps. Technically there's a difference, but they taste mostly the same.

Is that a prawn on your lap or are you just happy to see me? See, that's much better than shrimp, don't you think.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:26 PM (sPVU9)

338 I read a theory that France sending a few troops, the US sending an inadequate amount of equipment and money, etc. is all just desperate jockeying for position in the upcoming "Who Lost Ukraine?" debate.
When Russia accepts Ukraine's surrender, and tells the US and Europe that they're not invited to the peace negotiations, the international order is going to be shaken to the core.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

I suspect part of the negotiations will include Russia getting all government financial records, especially surrounding foreign aid. Very useful when blackmailing western governments and politicians!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:27 PM (VNX3d)

339 These days if you don't have a harelip you can't become a Hollywood superstar.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 04, 2024 11:27 PM (pDQ/8)

340 334 @305

>>Will this affect Pub hours?

Well, Islam does not permit alcohol, so at some point, England's new Moorish Masters are going to start shutting down the pubs and won't that be a sight to see.
Posted by: Thomas Bender



It will be fine. The UK's soccer fans are a passive bunch.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 11:27 PM (+J/Au)

341 337 Prawns?

Sumptin like shrimps?
Posted by: Miklos ain't no Englisher fancy-pants (no pants at all in fact)

Big shrimps. Technically there's a difference, but they taste mostly the same.

Is that a prawn on your lap or are you just happy to see me? See, that's much better than shrimp, don't you think.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:26 PM (sPVU9)

https://northernyum.com/blog/shrimp-size/

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:28 PM (ynpvh)

342 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 11:22 PM (Js20g


we've given them over 100 billion. I believe Russia has spent less than this in the war.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 11:28 PM (MNhXM)

343 First of all, it allows Macron to send troops to Ukraine and act like a tough guy without encountering much home opposition. That’s because no French army soldiers are being sent and there is no consequent conscription or other measures in the offing. This clearly reduces the potential fury of Macron’s political opponents.

The second reason is Macron’s anger at seeing French troops, almost all from the Legion, getting kicked out of Sahelian Africa and replaced by Russians. Control of Francophone Africa, and the riches it provides to French politicians, has been broken by the revolt and revolution in Africa and a decisive tilt to Russia – either directly or through PMC Wagner (the Wagner Group). now clearly under Vladimir Putin’s direct control.

This “humiliation” is felt in the Élysée Palace and particularly by Macron who, his opponents say, has lost France’s influence and harmed France’s overseas mining and business interests.

A particular blow is in Niger, an important supplier of uranium to France. France gets 70 percent of its electrical power from nuclear power generators.
--Asia Times

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:29 PM (UfUdn)

344 Dolly Parton never took up the accordion.

Posted by: Not Surprised at May 04, 2024 11:29 PM (V5BDR)

345 >>Will this affect Pub hours?

Well, Islam does not permit alcohol, so at some point, England's new Moorish Masters are going to start shutting down the pubs and won't that be a sight to see.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

For some reason, I thought alcohol from fermented grapes or grains was verboten. Now mead, fermented honey, might make a comeback.

Of course, I could be wrong. I have been often enough.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:29 PM (VNX3d)

346 Lancer and Mateus were for special occasions. Memories of the 70's.
Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 11:25 PM (oaGWv)


Back in high school, this one time we went to a pet store, bought a two-hole rubber stopper and some fish tank tubing. Used a Lancer bottle and made a water pipe.

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 11:29 PM (emlEe)

347 Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?
------
Yes.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)
***

Only until the election is stolen. After that, the walking cadaver will need to look presidential.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 11:29 PM (W/lyH)

348 quite a game

another Game 7 tomorrow. Dallas v Las Vegas, to see who will play the Avalanche

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:30 PM (/7KEl)

349 "Student", James Carlson, 40, arrested during the Columbia University protests on Tuesday is also accused of stealing and burning an Israeli flag during a Manhattan protest last month
_WPIX

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:30 PM (lCWOD)

350 It will be fine. The UK's soccer fans are a passive bunch.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Haha.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 11:30 PM (5UgbP)

351 I know shrimp.

*looks down*

Yes, yes I do

Posted by: Miklos never fails to dissapoint at May 04, 2024 11:30 PM (g3rvw)

352 Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?
------
Yes.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)
***

Only until the election is stolen. After that, the walking cadaver will need to look presidential.
Posted by: Diogenes

Or he falls asleep, and his head hits the nuclear launch button. Equal odds, I’d say.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:31 PM (VNX3d)

353 For some reason, I thought alcohol from fermented grapes or grains was verboten. Now mead, fermented honey, might make a comeback.

Of course, I could be wrong. I have been often enough.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:29 PM (VNX3d)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UutK8FXjNOQ

Posted by: browndog is OK with this turn of events at May 04, 2024 11:31 PM (TTAGa)

354 I've been on the hunt for a dry wine for cooking and, on average, Sav is dah bomb. I get that there are vineyard exclusive bottles, but for the average cook?
Posted by: weft Carnac

I often use Australian Chardonnay. It's not expensive and has pretty good flavor. Not too much oak, and it reduces down to a nice flavor.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 11:31 PM (sPVU9)

355 "However, it may surprise you to learn that shrimp and prawns are not even the same animals. Shrimp are part of the sub-order Pleocyemata, while prawns belong to the sub-order Dendrobranchiata...shrimp have lamellar (plate-like) gills, while prawns' gills are branching...shrimp have a side plate that overlays segments in front and behind; prawns side plates overlap tile-like from front to back..."

http://tiny.cc/juqxxz

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:31 PM (ynpvh)

356 347 Since the French escalated it, we can stay out, right?
------
Yes.
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)
------------------------

Smells like Indo-China to me.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:31 PM (lCWOD)

357 >> is also accused of stealing and burning an Israeli flag


no problem
had it been the queer flag, though
different story

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:32 PM (/7KEl)

358 Babycham, for that Disney-on-mild-hallucinogens buzz!

https://tinyurl.com/4729yhup

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 11:33 PM (FkUwd)

359 WTF is France thinking?

I thought I couldn't dislike the French more than I already did.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 11:14 PM (MNhXM)


Macron is thinking that La Pen's party is going to win any election, and this is the only way to stay out of a really long search of his coalition's finances, history, and violations of international war.
The French do not treat their turned out leaders well

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 11:33 PM (D7oie)

360 Dolly Parton never took up the accordion.
Posted by: Not Surprised

********

She could not master B flat...

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:33 PM (l4B/J)

361 Good evening y'all! I'll be over here in the corner if anyone needs me.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (l4B/J)
***

Heeeyyyyy...wait a minute!
That's not the same corner as last night!
*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 11:33 PM (W/lyH)

362 "However, it may surprise you to learn that shrimp and prawns are not even the same animals. Shrimp are part of the sub-order Pleocyemata, while prawns belong to the sub-order Dendrobranchiata...shrimp have lamellar (plate-like) gills, while prawns' gills are branching...shrimp have a side plate that overlays segments in front and behind; prawns side plates overlap tile-like from front to back..."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:31 PM (ynpvh)


Ya know, I must have a little Bayou Creole in me. All I can think of reading all that is: Can you eat it? And if so, what's the best way to cook it?

Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 11:34 PM (emlEe)

363 She could not master B flat...
Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:33 PM (l4B/J)
----------
How about G minor?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 11:34 PM (Be/+i)

364 Dolly Parton never took up the accordion.
Posted by: Not Surprised

********

She could not master B flat...
Posted by: Muldoon

Couldn't reach the keys.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 11:35 PM (vJiyU)

365 The wedding food poisoning story is wild. One guest arrived late, saw that some other guests were already getting ill, and still ordered and ate the food.
Of course she got poisoned too.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 11:35 PM (Ka3bZ)

366 We started with some prawns sautéed in butter, garlic, lime and cilantro and served with chips and fresh salsa.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Recipe perfection. So dang yummy.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 11:35 PM (5UgbP)

367 Heeeyyyyy...wait a minute!
That's not the same corner as last night!
Posted by: Diogenes

*******

I like to shake things up...

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:37 PM (l4B/J)

368 365 The wedding food poisoning story is wild. One guest arrived late, saw that some other guests were already getting ill, and still ordered and ate the food.
Of course she got poisoned too.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 11:35 PM (Ka3bZ)

Try the fish...it's been here all week...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:37 PM (ynpvh)

369 I wonder what Dolly Parton would have looked like without her clown costume on.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 11:37 PM (MNhXM)

370 Dolly Parton never took up the accordion.
Posted by: Not Surprised

********

She could not master B flat...
Posted by: Muldoon

Physics

Three things cannot be in the same place at the same time.

Posted by: Le Mikleuse firing up le Squeezebox at May 04, 2024 11:38 PM (g3rvw)

371 I can't eat anything that has claws antennae or a carapace

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:38 PM (/7KEl)

372 For some reason, 'Momma's Got A Squeeze Box' just came to mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc., waxing salacious at May 04, 2024 11:39 PM (XeU6L)

373 I like to shake things up...
Posted by: Muldoon

GLARE

Posted by: Bond, James Bond requiring a Martini at May 04, 2024 11:39 PM (g3rvw)

374 369 I wonder what Dolly Parton would have looked like without her clown costume on.
Posted by: polynikes
-------------------

She was mostly natural on the early Porter Wagoner Shows.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:40 PM (lCWOD)

375 Try the fish...it's been here all week...
Posted by: jim

*****

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:40 PM (l4B/J)

376 So I saw an infographic posted on a leftwing site.

It had the price of fast food over the last 10 years, and every major fast food company had prices that had gone up 50-100%. It contrasted that with a formal inflation rate over the same time of 31% and the argument was "look at these greedy fast food companies charging more then inflation!"

I was grabbed by a comment though where someone asked, if ALL the companies in this (and most) sectors are raising their prices by more then the official inflation rate what makes you think the official rate is accurate?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 11:41 PM (ibTVg)

377 For some reason, 'Momma's Got A Squeeze Box' just came to mind.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Oh hell.

Darleen don't get off shift until 4, Marleen 6, Charleen at 8.

Work to do

Posted by: Miklos, cooling out out back at May 04, 2024 11:41 PM (g3rvw)

378 She was mostly natural on the early Porter Wagoner Shows.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:40 PM (lCWOD)

I believe she always wore a big wig.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 11:42 PM (MNhXM)

379 Or ignoring that rising minimum-wage laws are driving that rate.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:43 PM (UfUdn)

380 Another point in regards to Macron - for many years the left has been flailing around looking for a moral equivalent of war.

Why? Because people will accept the government ruling by fiat and with no restrictions when there is a war on.

They got close with COVID mania but the best "moral equivalent to war" is...war.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 11:43 PM (ibTVg)

381 Darleen don't get off shift until 4, Marleen 6, Charleen at 8.
Posted by: Miklos,

********

Which one are you leening toward?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:43 PM (l4B/J)

382 @292

>>Has anyone ever been given an opportunity to vote for this?

Sorry Lawrence, your elections have been faker and gayer than ours for a far longer time.

Maybe they slipped up with Brexit or maybe some aspect of Brexit suited the masterminds but make no mistake, you're erections are gay.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 11:43 PM (XV/Pl)

383 I believe she always wore a big wig.
Posted by: polynikes


Hell, I didn't know she had hair till I was 25.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 11:44 PM (vJiyU)

384 I think I'm out. Night all/Nytol.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 11:44 PM (ynpvh)

385 I like to shake things up...
Posted by: Muldoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoDrWXnld0

Posted by: K.C. Miklos and the Sunshine Band at May 04, 2024 11:44 PM (g3rvw)

386
It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!

Posted by: Dolly at May 04, 2024 11:44 PM (XeU6L)

387 Need some antibiotics, can someone hook a brother up with some amoxicillin?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 11:45 PM (XV/Pl)

388 Which one are you leening toward?
Posted by: Muldoon
----------
Jolene

Posted by: Dolly at May 04, 2024 11:46 PM (5UgbP)

389 Australian police shoot dead a boy, 16, armed with a knife, after a man was stabbed in Perth.
-----
Oddly enough the MSM chyron here didn't go on to report...

“There are indications he had been radicalized online,” Cook told a news conference.

“But I want to reassure the community at this stage it appears that he acted solely and alone,” Cook added.

https://is.gd/YC6fkM

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 11:47 PM (UfUdn)

390 Which one are you leening toward?
Posted by: Muldoon

They have to be distributed, or the double wide might slide off the cinder blocks again.

Posted by: Managerial Miklos at May 04, 2024 11:47 PM (g3rvw)

391 So I saw an infographic posted on a leftwing site.

It had the price of fast food over the last 10 years, and every major fast food company had prices that had gone up 50-100%. It contrasted that with a formal inflation rate over the same time of 31% and the argument was "look at these greedy fast food companies charging more then inflation!"

I was grabbed by a comment though where someone asked, if ALL the companies in this (and most) sectors are raising their prices by more then the official inflation rate what makes you think the official rate is accurate?
Posted by: 18-1

Comrade, questioning the official party line is forbidden. You are being sent to new gulag in Antarctica, where you must provide your own food, clothing, and shelter. If you behave on flight, you get parachute - we don’t land.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:47 PM (VNX3d)

392 >can someone hook a brother up with some amoxicillin?


I only have uppers, downers, laughers and screamers
there's some ether in the trunk

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:47 PM (/7KEl)

393 Praleen! she's very sweet, but mostly nuts!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:48 PM (l4B/J)

394 Kinda gotta feel bad for the Marlins player out on 2nd base. They send in a pinch runner...hell of a way to find out you've been traded to San Diego.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 11:48 PM (W/lyH)

395 It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!
Posted by: Dolly

One of the best lines of all time!

Posted by: Miklos, avec neck rouge at May 04, 2024 11:48 PM (g3rvw)

396 I can't eat anything that has claws antennae or a carapace
Posted by: Don Black


They are there to be eaten, pP is to eat, not to be eaten. I've seen your kind in this bunk house who refuse our shellfish, our piscatory offerings, and what did it give them? Nothing. You miserable, picky, vegetarian. I have no use for you !

Posted by: weft Gunnery Sergeant Hartman at May 04, 2024 11:49 PM (IG4Id)

397 @392

>>I only have uppers, downers, laughers and screamers there's some ether in the trunk

Don't think that's going to do anything for the sandpaper at the back of my throat.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 11:50 PM (XV/Pl)

398 Dolly has been really good at staying out of politics.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 11:50 PM (MNhXM)

399 389:“But I want to reassure the community at this stage it appears that he acted solely and alone,” Cook added.


So expect more attacks, Australia.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 11:51 PM (+J/Au)

400 Don't think that's going to do anything for the sandpaper at the back of my throat.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
‐--------
Sounds rough.

Posted by: 50 grit at May 04, 2024 11:52 PM (5UgbP)

401 Girl F. was given amoxicillin when she was about 18 months old and she swelled up like a little sausage.

Yeah, that was a fun drive to the ER.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:52 PM (RIvkX)

402 Evening.

Just finished watching Lethal Weapon for the first time in *mumblety* years and...was it always so corny?

I mean it was really good but holy shit it is jut a tad dated. For some reason I can't help compare it to Highlander in a certain regard. Came out shortly before Lethal Weapon, stars a Frenchman playing a Scotsman wielding a freakin' samurai sword and was produced by fuckin' *Cannon Films* and holds up a lot better. Weird. But goddamn Lethal Weapon really works on the strength of its cast. Mel Gibson as the psycho cop? Danny Glover as the kind of anti-Cosby with the slutty teenage daughter? Drug trafficking mercenaries? I'm sold. But then you have bits of Gibson dropping and rolling on the ground to shoot a guy on a platform five feet over his position. Talk about magic bullets!

Anyway, I'm happy I watched it. When I get back from my next trip out I'm totally watching part two. Joe Pesci gets fucked in the drive-thru!

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 11:52 PM (1Yy3c)

403 Only that which moo in the field, or oink in the pen, or cluck in the coop, of these animals shall ye eat

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:52 PM (/7KEl)

404 Praleen! she's very sweet, but mostly nuts!
Posted by: Muldoon

Nope.

I just posted bail for Carleen (the cousin).

Paid off the Title Loan on Marleen's truck too.

I expect some Return on Investment from the Bass Master's Tournament, though.

Posted by: Miklos, trying to keep four heads above water at May 04, 2024 11:53 PM (g3rvw)

405 Don't think that's going to do anything for the sandpaper at the back of my throat.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
‐--------
Sounds rough.
Posted by: 50 grit

You should file away whatever caused it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:53 PM (VNX3d)

406 Like tires you should rotate them every six months to avoid uneven wear and tear.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 11:53 PM (l4B/J)

407 I only have uppers, downers, laughers and screamers
there's some ether in the trunk
Posted by: Don Black

DON'T OPEN THE TRUNK

Posted by: Miklos, in best Harry Dean Stanton Repo Man voice at May 04, 2024 11:54 PM (g3rvw)

408 Dolly Parton took amoxicillin as a tween and she swolled up, too.

Posted by: Doc Campbell at May 04, 2024 11:55 PM (V5BDR)

409 Robert - I haven't watched Lethal Weapon in years. It seems like the kind of movie that I'd rather re-watch with my high school buddies, or maybe a person who has never seen it before.

Posted by: PabloD at May 04, 2024 11:55 PM (f7a6n)

410 Don't think that's going to do anything for the sandpaper at the back of my throat.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
‐--------
Sounds rough.
Posted by: 50 grit

You should file away whatever caused it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2024 11:53 PM (VNX3d)
***

Tell me about it!

Posted by: Rat Tail Bastard at May 04, 2024 11:55 PM (W/lyH)

411 Like tires you should rotate them every six months to avoid uneven wear and tear.
Posted by: Muldoon

We rotate on a daily or weekly basis.

Posted by: Miklos, and all them damn wimmins at May 04, 2024 11:56 PM (g3rvw)

412 387 Need some antibiotics, can someone hook a brother up with some amoxicillin?
Posted by: Thomas Bender
--------------------

Tractor Supply in the fish section.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:56 PM (lCWOD)

413 Lethal Weapon also had Gary Busey prior to cocaine eating his brain away. He played that role to the hilt. It was great! A couple of really solid character actors, Mitchel Ryan and Tom Atkins, and you have a great action film. I haven't watched LW is a long while. Never thought about if it has aged well. Might have to watch it again.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 12:00 AM (+J/Au)

414 Phyllis Diller had an entire room full of wigs. She would let you look at them if you bought a piece of her art. She painted and made collages, etc.

Posted by: No Fang, Though at May 05, 2024 12:01 AM (V5BDR)

415 Good night all! Thanks for the chuckles!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 05, 2024 12:01 AM (l4B/J)

416 Also, Lethal Weapon had that bad guy who looked like Huey Lewis.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 12:01 AM (+J/Au)

417 Lethal Weapon was a fun watch. Joan Severance with a bit part - always easy on the eyes.

Posted by: scampydog at May 05, 2024 12:02 AM (5UgbP)

418 @412

>>Tractor Supply in the fish section.

Good tip, I might just go to the urgent care tomorrow.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 05, 2024 12:02 AM (XV/Pl)

419 all I remember of Lethal Weapon was Danny Glover and his suitcase telephone

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 12:02 AM (/7KEl)

420
Dolly has been really good at staying out of politics.
Posted by: polynikes


Smart businesswoman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 12:03 AM (63Dwl)

421 Miss Diller also had a card catalog-type cabinet filled with jokes-50,000 for all occasions.

Posted by: Pruitts of Southampton at May 05, 2024 12:03 AM (V5BDR)

422 I was grabbed by a comment though where someone asked, if ALL the companies in this (and most) sectors are raising their prices by more then the official inflation rate what makes you think the official rate is accurate?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 11:41 PM (ibTVg)

Plus food and fuel (the best indicators OF inflation) are excluded from the metric- which tells you everything you need to know about the metric.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2024 12:03 AM (di6C2)

423 Johnny Carson gave Dolly a leg up out of Country Music.

He told a joke about her co-mingled with the Palestinian problem, the punch line was Yas sir ar a fat. She contacted him about that and was invited to appear on the Tonight Show. Her first nationwide, non-country appearance.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 12:04 AM (lCWOD)

424 Guess I'll call it a night as well.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 05, 2024 12:04 AM (W/lyH)

425 Also, Lethal Weapon had that bad guy who looked like Huey Lewis.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 12:01 AM (+J/Au)

Die Hard

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 12:04 AM (MNhXM)

426 Anyway, I'm happy I watched it. When I get back from my next trip out I'm totally watching part two. Joe Pesci gets fucked in the drive-thru!

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 11:52 PM (1Yy3c)

The boat scene was the best

"well why didn't you just say that to begin with roger. I like these people that get around boats and water and all of a sudden everything becomes fucking nautical. A stern, avast ye land lubber, man the bilge pump...pump your fucking ass."

lolol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 05, 2024 12:05 AM (VwHCD)

427 Die Hard ALSO

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2024 12:05 AM (MNhXM)

428 Good night all! Thanks for the chuckles!
Posted by: Muldoon

Damn.

I was hoping for a hearty guffaw.

Posted by: Miklos, in best Ed McMahon voice at May 05, 2024 12:05 AM (g3rvw)

429 Dolly has been really good at staying out of politics.
Posted by: polynikes

Smart businesswoman.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Her assets are substantial.

Posted by: Miklos, circumferential economist at May 05, 2024 12:06 AM (g3rvw)

430
Goodnight
Stay tuned for AoS After Dark, brought to you by Mutual Of Omaha

Posted by: Don Black at May 05, 2024 12:08 AM (/7KEl)

431 Top pic. Can attest. Doritos and cabernet savignon do go together.

What?

I'm a cheap and simplistic redneck.

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 05, 2024 12:11 AM (MsrgL)

432 lol found the Joe Pesci boat scene. This always cracks me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4NJUwwIcyU

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 05, 2024 12:11 AM (VwHCD)

433 I'm a cheap and simplistic redneck.
Posted by: BifBewalski

Ok..okay

TXt me

NOW

Posted by: Karen McBoxwine at May 05, 2024 12:13 AM (g3rvw)

434 Ummm.

Haven't watched SNL in over a decade.
Just. No.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:14 AM (2n6Sf)

435 I've been informed the Pinot Noir and Cheetos is a good combo.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 12:17 AM (lCWOD)

436 Dua Lipa just "performed"

I feel sorry for people who thinks this is entertaining. Or talent. Or even remotely interesting.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:17 AM (qJGuG)

437 Dua Lipa just "performed"

I feel sorry for people who thinks this is entertaining. Or talent. Or even remotely interesting.
Posted by: nurse ratched

We rate this as TRUE

Posted by: Milli Vanilli at May 05, 2024 12:18 AM (g3rvw)

438 Great Sat. Nite joke MH. Also great Oh Shit, though I actually feel bad for them - every time they open that tailgate they will be reminded to secure stuff like that.

Posted by: Ciampino - It could have been a bucket of DDT ! at May 05, 2024 12:21 AM (qfLjt)

439 42 Which hard liquors go with each wine selection?

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2024 10:10 PM (vJiyU)
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Well if you've gone through the chips and at/past the wine then you won't know the difference.

Posted by: Ciampino - It could have been a bucket of DDT ! LOL at May 05, 2024 12:26 AM (qfLjt)

440 Dua Lipa? A suburb of Phnom Penh?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 12:27 AM (+J/Au)

441
Dua Lipa just "performed"

Was that a tumbling act on the Sullivan show?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2024 12:30 AM (63Dwl)

442 Dua Lipa? A suburb of Phnom Penh?
Posted by: Puddleglum

Thailand

Posted by: Sawadi Krap at May 05, 2024 12:30 AM (g3rvw)

443
Jonathan Swift, I think in Gulliver's Travels, did some hilarious parody of nautical talk. That had become popular in the day in various "travel stories".

I tried to look up an example or two, but search was just useless for the text.

I remember reading it, and it was a couple paragraphs of nautical gibberish.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 12:31 AM (w6EFb)

444 Ok. I watched The Weekend Report.
I did chuckle
Once or twice. And they did make a couple jabs at biden. But now I have a headache.

Took one for the team, I did.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2024 12:35 AM (n1LfN)

445 I remember reading it, and it was a couple paragraphs of nautical gibberish.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Avast matey! Forearm to double port, an' ballast the fo'csle!

Posted by: Cap'm Miklos and the One eyed Dog at May 05, 2024 12:36 AM (g3rvw)

446 Finding it was likely to overblow, we took in our sprit-sail, and stood by to hand the fore-sail; but making foul weather, we looked the guns were all fast, and handed the mizen. The ship lay very broad off, so we thought it better spooning before the sea, than trying or hulling. We reefed the fore-sail and set him, and hauled aft the fore-sheet; the helm was hard a-weather. The ship wore bravely. We belayed the fore down-haul; but the sail was split, and we hauled down the yard, and got the sail into the ship, and unbound all the things clear of it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 12:38 AM (w6EFb)

447 It was a very fierce storm; the sea broke strange and dangerous. We hauled off upon the laniard of the whip-staff, and helped the man at the helm. We would not get down our topmast, but let all stand, because she scudded before the sea very well, and we knew that the top-mast being aloft, the ship was the wholesomer, and made better way through the sea, seeing we had sea-room. When the storm was over, we set fore-sail and main-sail, and brought the ship to. Then we set the mizen, main-top-sail, and the fore-top-sail. Our course was east-north-east, the wind was at south-west. We got the starboard tacks aboard, we cast off our weather-b

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 12:38 AM (w6EFb)

448 Oof. The "oh shit" picture hits close to home. I had a very similar experience with Mrs. Reason's SUV. Thankfully, the cargo was a couple of those 5-gallon Igloo water coolers, so cleanup was a matter of letting evaporation take its course.

I still had to drive back and refill the coolers, though...

Posted by: reason at May 05, 2024 12:39 AM (s3On1)

449 Haven't watched SNL in over a decade.
Just. No.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Went 20 plus years then watched the Chappelle monologue. Haven't watched since. Never liked it - even when everyone thought it great.

Posted by: scampydog at May 05, 2024 12:41 AM (5UgbP)

450 446 Finding it was likely to overblow, we took in our sprit-sail, and stood by to hand the fore-sail; but making foul weather, we looked the guns were all fast, and handed the mizen. The ship lay very broad off, so we thought it better spooning before the sea, than trying or hulling. We reefed the fore-sail and set him, and hauled aft the fore-sheet; the helm was hard a-weather. The ship wore bravely. We belayed the fore down-haul; but the sail was split, and we hauled down the yard, and got the sail into the ship, and unbound all the things clear of it.
_Tom Clancy Melville

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 12:42 AM (lCWOD)

451 We got the starboard tacks aboard, we cast off our weather-b
Posted by: publius,

And Publius, that rapscallion of a lad, did fine work on the mizzen.

Posted by: Cap'm Miklos and the One eyed Dog at May 05, 2024 12:43 AM (g3rvw)

452 Best pirate joke punchline ever - "T'was me first day wit' da hook!"

Posted by: reason at May 05, 2024 12:43 AM (s3On1)

453 Avast matey! Forearm to double port, an' ballast the fo'csle!
Posted by: Cap'm Miklos
------

I have suggested to Ace that he read the 'Master and Commander' series (21 books) for the purpose of extracting some truely epic nautical curses/insults.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 12:44 AM (XeU6L)

454 I have suggested to Ace that he read the 'Master and Commander' series (21 books) for the purpose of extracting some truely epic nautical curses/insults.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc

Now see?

We may have Nice Things.

Posted by: Miklos can cuss in multiple languages, if provoked at May 05, 2024 12:45 AM (g3rvw)

455
Those two were passages from Gulliver's Travel's Book II, right at the beginning, which text I just found. Swift was parodying that kind of nautical gibberish. It had become popular and some people loved to read that and think they were sailors or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 12:46 AM (w6EFb)

456 Miklos can cuss in multiple languages, if provoked
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Big swear jar with multiple currencies?

Posted by: scampydog at May 05, 2024 12:50 AM (41CYW)

457 Muscatel for the win.

Posted by: Ciampino - It could have been a bucket of DDT at May 05, 2024 12:51 AM (qfLjt)

458 In the past, we would occasionally have 'Talk like a pirate day'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2024 12:52 AM (XeU6L)

459
My mother will be 94 on Tuesday, May 7th. She got a birfday present early sent via the efforts of one her young girlfiends, who is just a baby at 81 or 82 or something. She's got a son who's a Gamecock alum, and a big booster.

Anyway, it was a couple of boxes. In one was a basketball, signed by Dawn Staley to "Rosemary". The name wasn't quite right but close enough. Also, a large picture of the whole team posing by the National Champeen trophy, all signed by the players.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 12:56 AM (w6EFb)

460 Big swear jar with multiple currencies?
Posted by: scampydog

Indeed perhaps

Posted by: Miklos uncertain of your concept, basz meg at May 05, 2024 12:57 AM (g3rvw)

461
I can never view those SHOCKING VIDEOS on The Sun. A big white rectangle covers the video.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2024 12:58 AM (lCaJd)

462
The "oh shit" picture hits close to home. I had a very similar experience with Mrs. Reason's SUV. Thankfully, the cargo was a couple of those 5-gallon Igloo water coolers, so cleanup was a matter of letting evaporation take its course.

I still had to drive back and refill the coolers, though...
Posted by: reason

=====================

I can't tell what's spilled in that picture. White paint?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2024 12:59 AM (lCaJd)

463 In the past, we would occasionally have 'Talk like a pirate day'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Bark like a Pirate Day.

One eyed Miss Dixie might win.

Posted by: Miklos did not know that there are eye patches for dogs at May 05, 2024 01:00 AM (g3rvw)

464 Dolly Parton was on some late night talk show.

Asshole asks her 'What do you think of gay marriage?'

Dolly responds 'Well they should be allowed to be as miserable as the rest of us...'

Perfect response. Lefties think she approves. Righties know she knows it was a gotcha and she escaped.

Dolly Parton. Smart businesswoman. Not a dumb blonde.

Posted by: Stateless at May 05, 2024 01:01 AM (jvJvP)

465
After all that rain in Jan, and then March, I wasn't worried about it, but April turned out to pretty dry. We got about half normal for the month here. It was getting pretty dry. We're still way ahead for the year to day.

Anyway, we got about 1/4" by midnight. My cousin forecast we'd get about 1/4" locally of out that little system.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 01:04 AM (w6EFb)

466 I can't tell what's spilled in that picture. White paint?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

It's no Rothko

Posted by: Miklos who, like everybody, is a critic at May 05, 2024 01:04 AM (g3rvw)

467 G'night wine jokers and Turkish swearer. Off to DC early in the morn for a few days.

Posted by: scampydog at May 05, 2024 01:05 AM (41CYW)

468 GOP group is forced to cancel Kristi Noem fundraiser after receiving death threats following South Dakota Governor's revelation that she slaughtered puppy for being naughty

https://mol.im/a/13383733

Posted by: Ciampino - It could have been you at May 05, 2024 01:05 AM (qfLjt)

469 Happy Saturday, Horde, at least what's left of it.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 01:07 AM (Sgq8y)

470 My Granpappy used to say

Okra in the ground by May

Posted by: Miklos of a formerly farming fambly at May 05, 2024 01:07 AM (g3rvw)

471 Happy Saturday, Horde, at least what's left of it.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

I still have all nine fingers

Posted by: Miklos, taking his socks off so he can count betterer at May 05, 2024 01:09 AM (g3rvw)

472 468 GOP group is forced to cancel Kristi Noem fundraiser after receiving death threats following South Dakota Governor's revelation that she slaughtered puppy for being naughty

https://mol.im/a/13383733
Posted by: Ciampino -
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Tough Dakota, cattle country.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:13 AM (lCWOD)

473
It's no Rothko
Posted by: Miklos

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Heh. It's odd. He appears to be wiping it out with his bare hand -- whatever "it" is -- while it also has spilled all over a tarp? That's really hilarious and awful!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2024 01:13 AM (lCaJd)

474 They cancelled the fund raiser because she's a dummy.
She proved she's a dummy and they don't want to waste
their money.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:14 AM (lCWOD)

475 Former state trooper who caused fatal crash halts effort to get driving privileges restored:

https://tinyurl.com/2kcf7uu7

What the article fails to mention is that he did a lot of lying at first and his cop mates covered up for him, including claiming there was no video until it surfaced. Also he'd crashed before. There was no justification for his speed.

Posted by: Ciampino - when cops lie or cover up at May 05, 2024 01:15 AM (qfLjt)

476 Avast matey! Forearm to double port, an' ballast the fo'csle!

Posted by: Cap'm Miklos and the One eyed Dog at May 05, 2024 12:36 AM (g3rvw)


Well blow me down and bugger me over a cannon, sailor.

Posted by: Pete Buttplug at May 05, 2024 01:16 AM (emlEe)

477 I have about two fingers of scotch on ice right here. One of the reasons I declined to take a woodworking course at the local high school community class was because the instructor was missing three fingers on his left hand, it frightened me.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 01:16 AM (Sgq8y)

478 Jars of Pickled Okra Snacks at my grocery.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:18 AM (lCWOD)

479 Iran's hardliners employ female 'hijab enforcers' to spy on bare-headed women and bundle them into vans for interrogation in new crackdown

https://mol.im/a/13382623

Posted by: Ciampino - stinky moolahs at May 05, 2024 01:18 AM (qfLjt)

480 I think white paint, maybe primer.

Looking closely at the other items in the cargo area, maybe liquid floor leveler? I think I see long boxes, which might be flooring?

Whatever it is, it's not gonna clean up easy from either the bumper or the carpet of the poor car. A decade from now, long after this couple sells it, someone will either need the spare (or check the air in it) and wonder what the hell happened.

"Its like a dead hooker was transported back here, but she bled white! Maybe she had just ended her shift...."

Posted by: reason at May 05, 2024 01:19 AM (s3On1)

481 HIMS stock plummets 8%, after CEO of hair loss company sparked outrage and boycotts by offering campus protestors jobs, continuing downward trend on Wall Street

https://mol.im/a/13382535

Posted by: Ciampino - sell sell sell at May 05, 2024 01:20 AM (qfLjt)

482 Always liked

His daddy was a pistol and he was a son-of-a-gun.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:20 AM (lCWOD)

483 Macron is thinking that La Pen's party is going to win any election, and this is the only way to stay out of a really long search of his coalition's finances, history, and violations of international war.
The French do not treat their turned out leaders well
Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 11:33

You don't say.

Posted by Louis XVII & Marie (who never said let them eat cake)

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2024 01:21 AM (55Qr6)

484 481 HIMS stock plummets 8%, after CEO of hair loss company sparked outrage and boycotts by offering campus protestors jobs, continuing downward trend on Wall Street

https://mol.im/a/13382535
Posted by: Ciampino
-----------------------

He can go and take his shares too and sell them on the Iranian Stock Exchange. They've overstayed their welcome.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:23 AM (lCWOD)

485 I have about two fingers of scotch on ice right here. One of the reasons I declined to take a woodworking course at the local high school community class was because the instructor was missing three fingers on his left hand, it frightened me.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 01:16 AM (Sgq8y)
-

Somebody shook hands with danger.

Posted by: reason at May 05, 2024 01:23 AM (s3On1)

486 University of Michigan graduation ceremony is ruined after mob of anti-Israel protestors storm the commencement stage waving Palestine flags - as furious students yell 'shut the f*** up!'

https://mol.im/a/13383359

Posted by: Ciampino - Two words 'Tire Irons' at May 05, 2024 01:25 AM (qfLjt)

487 What ever it was, the lid wasn't secured in the first place. Those type of buckets have a tight sealing lid. O'course he have been driving like a demon.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:25 AM (lCWOD)

488 Not so funny to anyone that's ever had it happen to them...

Posted by: FUCK YOU CUNT at May 05, 2024 01:25 AM (98TE5)

489 The French do not treat their turned out leaders well
Posted by: Kindltot

Neither do the Russians

Posted by: Miklos, thinking America is joining that crowd at May 05, 2024 01:26 AM (g3rvw)

490 481 HIMS stock plummets 8%, after CEO of hair loss company sparked outrage and boycotts by offering campus protestors jobs, continuing downward trend on Wall Street

https://mol.im/a/13382535
Posted by: Ciampino - sell sell sell at May 05, 2024 01:20 AM (qfLjt)

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Too bad. It should have been 80%.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 05, 2024 01:27 AM (bo7UB)

491 https://youtu.be/LfIJtR6R1jY

Posted by: reason at May 05, 2024 01:28 AM (s3On1)

492 486 University of Michigan graduation ceremony is ruined after mob of anti-Israel protestors storm the commencement stage waving Palestine flags - as furious students yell 'shut the f*** up!'

https://mol.im/a/13383359
Posted by: Ciampino
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Those schools need some rednecks. The Jews need to partner up with some rednecks. They know how to solve those kind of problems.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:29 AM (lCWOD)

493 HIMS stock plummets 8%, after CEO of hair loss company sparked outrage and boycotts by offering campus protestors jobs, continuing downward trend on Wall Street

https://mol.im/a/13382535
Posted by: Ciampino - sell sell sell at May 05, 2024 01:20 AM (qfLjt)

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Too bad. It should have been 80%.
Posted by: Cicero

Hmmm

I could sell about three tonnes of chest hair per year.

Posted by: Miklos, well upholstered at May 05, 2024 01:30 AM (g3rvw)

494 You might have a point there.

Posted by Nicky, Alix and the Trumpster

Posted by: Farmer at May 05, 2024 01:30 AM (55Qr6)

495 Violent leader of Columbia University's anti-Israel protest is unmasked as son of millionaire ad execs who is married to a model and lives in $3.4M Brooklyn brownstone

https://mol.im/a/13383089

He does not appear to be a student at Columbia.

Posted by: Ciampino - One word - rope at May 05, 2024 01:31 AM (qfLjt)

496 You might have a point there.

Posted by Nicky, Alix and the Trumpster
Posted by: Farmer

I have a point.

But I wear a hat, so nobody notices.

Posted by: Miklos recalls Spiro Agnew at May 05, 2024 01:32 AM (g3rvw)

497 495 Violent leader of Columbia University's anti-Israel protest is unmasked as son of millionaire ad execs who is married to a model and lives in $3.4M Brooklyn brownstone
--------------------------

NY cocktail parties will have a revised guest list.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:33 AM (lCWOD)

498 >> He does not appear to be a student at Columbia.

I was just reading that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 01:33 AM (w6EFb)

499 Edgar Lansbury dies aged 94: Tony-winning producer and brother of Angela Lansbury passes away at Manhattan home

https://mol.im/a/13383793

Posted by: Ciampino - a good life at May 05, 2024 01:33 AM (qfLjt)

500 University of Michigan graduation ceremony is ruined after mob of anti-Israel protestors storm the commencement stage waving Palestine flags - as furious students yell 'shut the f*** up!'
-

The number of fake votes the Dems will need to print in order to overcome the landslide of newly minted voters eager to cast ballots against them will need an entire forest's worth of paper.

Posted by: reason at May 05, 2024 01:34 AM (s3On1)

501 You people feel free to participate. Just fill in those little blank boxes and join in.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:34 AM (lCWOD)

502 The number of fake votes the Dems will need to print in order to overcome the landslide of newly minted voters eager to cast ballots against them will need an entire forest's worth of paper.

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We're up to the challenge.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines, LLC at May 05, 2024 01:35 AM (bo7UB)

503 We're up to the challenge.
Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines

Maybe Trump should buy International Paper.

Posted by: Miklos, actual Political Scientologist at May 05, 2024 01:38 AM (g3rvw)

504 349 "Student", James Carlson, 40, arrested during the Columbia University protests on Tuesday is also accused of stealing and burning an Israeli flag during a Manhattan protest last month
_WPIX
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Is that the guy?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:38 AM (lCWOD)

505 477 I have about two fingers of scotch on ice right here. One of the reasons I declined to take a woodworking course at the local high school community class was because the instructor was missing three fingers on his left hand, it frightened me.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 01:16 AM (Sgq8y)
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Support Alligator accident.

Posted by: Ciampino - Ouch! at May 05, 2024 01:39 AM (qfLjt)

506 We're up to the challenge.
Posted by: Dominion Voting Machines, LLC at May 05, 2024 01:35 AM (bo7UB)
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Who do you trust to answer the phone at 3:00am?

Posted by: an Atlanta plumbing leak at May 05, 2024 01:39 AM (s3On1)

507 I was just reading that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally

I read that in a Johnny Carson voice

Posted by: Miklos, who did not know that at May 05, 2024 01:40 AM (g3rvw)

508 481 HIMS stock plummets 8%, after CEO of hair loss company sparked outrage and boycotts by offering campus protestors jobs, continuing downward trend on Wall Street

https://mol.im/a/13382535
Posted by: Ciampino



Oops. Oopsie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 01:42 AM (+J/Au)

509 Most National Guard professionals performing space missions would retrain or retire rather than join the Space Force, the Air National Guard internal survey shows.
_federal news network
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Hit piece? Nah.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:43 AM (lCWOD)

510 486 University of Michigan graduation ceremony is ruined after mob of anti-Israel protestors storm the commencement stage waving Palestine flags - as furious students yell 'shut the f*** up!'

https://mol.im/a/13383359
Posted by: Ciampino



The 'Kill the Jews' bunch is winning hearts and minds where ever they go.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 01:44 AM (+J/Au)

511 Miklos should probably donate some of his chest hair to Locks For Love, some screaming liberal protester would love to wear such a wig.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 01:46 AM (Sgq8y)

512 The 'Kill the Jews' bunch is winning hearts and minds where ever they go.

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Nice messaging guys, but voters in blue cities were going to vote Dem anyway.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 05, 2024 01:46 AM (bo7UB)

513
Here's an interesting one, an abandoned weather station way up in Canada, abandoned in 1978:

https://tinyurl.com/2vdvb2hv

That was over the North magnetic pole at the time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2024 01:48 AM (w6EFb)

514 My eyes are crossing, good night all.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 05, 2024 01:49 AM (lCWOD)

515 512 The 'Kill the Jews' bunch is winning hearts and minds where ever they go.

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Nice messaging guys, but voters in blue cities were going to vote Dem anyway.
Posted by: Cicero



Even if they don't vote Dem, the vote will vote Dem.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 05, 2024 01:53 AM (+J/Au)

516 I am off to bed too, Horde, sorry that Braenyard has the strabismus.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 02:00 AM (Sgq8y)

517 Sorry, that link was bad. To say good night will suffice. Love ya, Horde.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 02:01 AM (Sgq8y)

518 Sorry, that link was bad. To say good night will suffice. Love ya, Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Some partying leads to sincere regret.

Posted by: Percy-Miklos Dovetonsils at May 05, 2024 02:05 AM (g3rvw)

519 Never attempt to move a pallet of paint buckets once the straps have been cut.

Posted by: DaveA at May 05, 2024 02:05 AM (FhXTo)

520 Never attempt to move a pallet of paint buckets once the straps have been cut.
Posted by: DaveA

The same could apply to Darleen.

Posted by: Miklos, who always learns the hard way at May 05, 2024 02:07 AM (g3rvw)

521 G'nite, everybody.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2024 02:09 AM (mH6SG)

522 Tonight's episode is brought to you by the cortical homunculus

https://tinyurl.com/2wz4f2wm

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:16 AM (w6EFb)

523 DEIsney movies, you're falling behind; You have no Disney Princess amputees...

Posted by: As not seen on TV at May 05, 2024 02:23 AM (bUNpQ)

524 Tonight's episode is brought to you by the cortical homunculus

https://tinyurl.com/2wz4f2wm

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

I like that foot, toes, and genitalia are in the same group.


Makes sense, because it's all Down There

Posted by: Miklos, phrenologist parv escellance at May 05, 2024 02:25 AM (g3rvw)

525 Miley, I saw your prayer request and update this morning. I really am off to bed, I need to behave myself for the next couple of weeks, on baby watch here and I may be called into action. Anyway, I will email you tomorrow, I am experiencing a very similar situation. Serenity now!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2024 02:32 AM (Sgq8y)

526 FBI Takes Possession of Sen. Lindsey Graham’s Phone Amid Investigation into Potential Hack

Heh

Bet his name is Jose

Posted by: Miklos ,a mere constituent at May 05, 2024 02:33 AM (g3rvw)

527 Miley, I saw your prayer request and update this morning.

I didn't

Now done

Posted by: Miklos at May 05, 2024 02:35 AM (g3rvw)

528 I like that foot, toes, and genitalia are in the same group.


Makes sense, because it's all Down There

Posted by: Miklos, phrenologist parv escellance at May 05, 2024 02:25 AM (g3rvw)

It's interesting that the thumb gets about the same amount of space as the dick.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:38 AM (w6EFb)

529 Thank you, Miklos. Things seem to have calmed down.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:39 AM (w6EFb)

530 It's interesting that the thumb gets about the same amount of space as the dick.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

A dick gets the space a dick is given.

Posted by: Respectfully to the Ladies, a Dick at May 05, 2024 02:40 AM (g3rvw)

531 Ah DDS, thank you as well!

Baby watch. I remember when my cat was pregnant. Otherwise no watching to speak of.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:40 AM (w6EFb)

532 530 LOLOL! So true.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:41 AM (w6EFb)

533 Thank you, Miklos. Things seem to have calmed down.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

I can laugh any time at the joke The Lady told.

Excellent timing in telling a good story/joke.

Posted by: Miklos has much to be thankful for at May 05, 2024 02:43 AM (g3rvw)

534 I wish I had it. Alas.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 02:52 AM (w6EFb)

535 Good evening/ morning, all.

May your Caturday Night be awesome

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 03:01 AM (njWTi)

536 Well now... I see that it's Cinco de Drinko today.

Whoop-de-do!

Hahahaha

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 03:07 AM (njWTi)

537 I'm only on number 3.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2024 03:13 AM (w6EFb)

538 Terrific musical interlude tonight!

Saw SRV&DT at Aloha Stadium in '86(?) or was it '87? with Run DMC and ZZTop... talk about culture clash...

Great concert. Wish I coulda seen the stage & performers better, though.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 03:16 AM (njWTi)

539 Well now... I see that it's Cinco de Drinko today.

Whoop-de-do!

Hahahaha
Posted by: JQ

Bishabel!

Posted by: Mayan Miklos at May 05, 2024 03:16 AM (g3rvw)

540 I'm only on number 3.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

Sodoku

She means sodoku

Posted by: Tea Toataling Miklos (OK. Long Island Ice Tea) at May 05, 2024 03:18 AM (g3rvw)

541 Mmm... Long Island Iced Tea...

Made correctly, tastes just like a regular non-alc iced tea with lemon (and kicks yer azz!)

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 03:20 AM (njWTi)

542 Okra. Mmm! Gonna plant a bunch of it this year.

I grew some in containers a couple years ago-- just about the only plant what could tolerate the heat on our deck! 9 plants provided about one batch of fried okra per week for 2 of us. Not quite enough.

So. This year, will plant *moar* containers of it, and put them on the deck. Lovely plants, nice & big, pretty flowers and attractive leaves... More okra for us, too! Can freeze any extra for later.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2024 03:28 AM (njWTi)

543 James Mason and Thunderbird mentioned upstream - while he's genial in that rather unique commercial, the man was one of the greatest on-screen villains ever, and it amazed me to this day that he did it without any schtick, leering expressions, or sinister smiles.

He was menacing simply by being extremely polite and civilized - check out North By Northwest or his oddest role ever in Salem's Lot. The man did not raise his voice, and seldom if ever got physical. He somehow evoked feelings of fear by being very civilized and British. On the Frog side of the ledger, Louis Jordan could manage that, but I'm unable to think of any current actor who could quite pull that off. You don't act evil, you somehow, for want of a better term, radiate it into the camera lens. No DSMV dead-eyed sociopath display, no eccentricities. Just a polite, mild. serious demeanor that on any other actor would communicate no hint of a threat.

Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 05, 2024 03:53 AM (u/Zei)

544 Kettle Cooked Lays Potato Chips and 1776 Bourbon....... excellent!

Posted by: Monica at May 05, 2024 04:00 AM (y8w0W)

545 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 04:02 AM (o3SCB)

546 also, I suppose the Yelp reviews on the caterer are going to be brutal! haha lol.

Posted by: Monica at May 05, 2024 04:03 AM (y8w0W)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05/04/2024 [TheJamesMadison]

Robert E. Howard


Six films have the credit of some variation of "Based on the works of Robert E. Howard," and I watched all of them a few weeks back. It all started when I got the 4K collector's set of the first two Conan the Barbarian films starring Arnold Schwarzenegger from Arrow Video (they're very nice). I expanded it to include the other four, and as I was going through them, I had the recurring thought that I would write a post about them. However, the only thing that kept attracting my attention was the idea of the films as adaptations of Howard's writing. The problem was that I hadn't read a Conan story in about a decade, and I'd never read any of the Kull the Atlantean or Solomon Kane stories.

So, I read all of them. Well, all of the stories that Howard published in his lifetime. I wasn't going to go down the rabbit hole of the fragments, recreations, and adaptations in other mediums (mostly the Marvel comic books). This also meant that I could thoroughly ignore Red Sonja since the character as presented in the film is actually a creation of Roy Thomas and Barry Windsor-Smith in a Marvel comic, sort of inspired by a character named Red Sonya by Howard who didn't appear in the Hyborian Age.

The question then becomes, which is the most accurate? Is accuracy the real goal of this kind of exercise? Is Howard the kind of writer to be slavishly accurate to when adapting to a vastly different medium from short stories and novellas into feature film?

And, just to be clear, the five films discussed will be: Conan the Barbarian from 1982, directed by John Milius, Conan the Destroyer from 1984, directed by Richard Fleischer, Kull the Conqueror from 1997, directed by John Nicolella, Solomon Kane from 2009, directed by M.J. Bassett, and Conan the Barbarian from 2011, directed by Marcus Nispel.

The Source


First of all, out of the adaptations in question, only one of them actually makes any attempt to adapt an actual story that Howard wrote. There are plenty of little scenes and even bits of dialogue that get peppered throughout, but only one, Kull the Conqueror has even the shell of one of the original stories. And it really is just a shell. Kull was originally a Conan story that got rewritten to include Kull when Kevin Sorbo signed on, not wanting to play the same character as Arnold. It stemmed from Conan the Conqueror, previously titled The Hour of the Dragon, and only the most simplistic recitation of events from a 30,000 foot view would tell you that they have anything in common.

Outside of that, though, none of them make that attempt. So, what's being adapted. I think it comes down to three main elements. The first, and probably the most important for most people, is the characters. This is almost entirely about the three title characters. Almost none of the other characters in the films come from the books with the sole exception of Valeria in Milius' film, but she's so far removed from the Valeria presented in "Red Nails" where she's a pirate, not some kind of Viking, Valkyrie, thief. So, she's kind of close, but not that close. The second major element being adapted is the setting: They Hyborian Age. To be honest, though, the Hyborian Age in Howard's writing is some kind of hodgepodge of really ancient and Medieval, but that's part of the appeal. It's sort of timeless that way, so the world on film can be a hodgepodge and a bit timeless. The third is what I personally consider to be the most important: the magic.

Having read all of these stories (not his westerns or boxing stuff, mind you), it's obvious that Howard was deeply influenced by H.P. Lovecraft. I don't even need to know that Howard and Lovecraft had a correspondence based relationship to see the influence. He uses phrases like "cosmic horror" and "the Old Ones." The evil of the world is almost always magicians or sorcerers who are usually not powerful on their own, but at least implied to be intermediaries for larger forces. This is honestly the stuff that appeals to me most in these stories, so while I recognize that not everyone has that same preference, it's what I look for most in these adaptations.

So, I think that's the three major things: character, setting, and the unique approach to magic and evil. Which held up best?

The Films
Kull the Atlantean

Let's just get Kull the Conqueror out of the way: It's surprisingly not a very good adaptation. Kull is simply wrong for the Atlantean that Howard wrote. As played by Sorbo, he's a proto-Tony Stark, quippy and loose while the written Kull is serious and contemplative. Well, he's mostly Conan but talks a bit less. The setting is wrong because they filmed on old English ruins meant to portray a heightened current state (though it's supposed to also pale in comparison to the ancient Acheron). The magic is never taken very seriously, but at least there's an effort to get the witch played by Tia Carrere to be some kind of vessel for a larger evil. It's not only a bad film, but it gets the appeal of the source material wrong. Howard isn't heavy metal. He may be in the adaptations in comic form, but the credits aren't that the film was adapted from the Marvel comics but from Howard.

Well, with the worst one out of the way, what about the other four? Let's tackle Conan first, since he's the biggest target.

Conan the Cimmerian

In terms of character, we have essentially three takes: Arnold's efforts under Milius, Arnold's efforts under Fleischer, and Jason Momoa. The core problem with Arnold in Milius' film is that he simply doesn't talk that much. Howard's Conan is surprisingly loquacious, explaining himself at times with eloquence. Arnold has only eighteen lines of dialogue in the entirety of the first film. What he says is in alignment with Howard's writing, especially the famous line about what is best in life, but Milius consciously pulled dialogue from Arnold because his English just wasn't very good at the time. The second effort, directed by Fleischer, has a different problem: silliness. In order to make the franchise more kid-friendly, they lightened the tone a good bit (while leaving in a surprising amount of blood, to be honest), and it nadirs with a scene of drunk Conan in the middle of the film trying to explain love. It's very not Conan. Throw in the fact that the innocent waif of a leading lady was Olivia d'Abo, who was fourteen at the time, the lustful Conan was made extremely restrained and chaste, which is weird. Also, Conan doesn't build teams. Conan commands by his sword and his wit. Conan builds a team in Conan the Destroyer. It just feels wrong.

What might be the most accurate version of Conan is Jason Momoa. Arnold's physique is more in line with Howard's descriptions, though Momoa isn't exactly small (it's not like Tom Cruise playing Reacher), but he has more dialogue direct from Howard ("I live, I love, I slay," is a direct quote), is more passionate with his leading lady, and has a certain pantherish quality that Howard always harped on. I think he works.

I should also note that both modern and older versions invent a backstory for Conan that Howard never had: the burning of the Cimmerian village which Milius takes even further by having Conan become a slave. Conan was never a slave in the books, but Kull was. Conan was a wanderer and then a pirate after leaving Cimmeria. So, points off.

The second element is the setting, and the fullest of the three seems to be Milius' take. Old, but not ruined. Large but not packed with people. The Hyborian Age that Milius presents feels real and appropriate. Fleischer's vision is not something I dislike, but it feels a bit off. It's a bit too stagey with large, good-looking sets that are dressed too cleanly, especially the castle that begins and ends the film. The more natural settings, the places outdoors filmed in Eastern Europe and sets designed like caves feel more right. There's also a wizard's lair that's right out of a Kull story that feels really good. So, Destroyer is okay, but something of a mixed bag. The newer Conan the Barbarian actually gets it the most right, I think. The ancient temple in the middle of a forest feels right in line with Howard's take on the Hyborian Age. Dragging a ship across the land by elephants is something Howard never described but would have probably loved. There's a variety of settings from jungles to desert to the sea that never feels terribly small (this was a problem in Red Sonja, but we're not talking about it), and travel seems to take time.

Now, the magic is where I was focusing mainly as I watched. Out of the three, I think Milius' Conan is actually the furthest from Howard. That's not to say that it's terribly far, though. All three are reasonably close, I think. My only issue with Thulsa Doom, as an adaptation of how Howard would write an evil wizard, is that he doesn't seem to have a connection with a larger force. That could be taken in implication when he turns into a serpent for no real reason, especially since the Cult of Set is so prominent in so many Conan (and Kull) stories. So, pretty close. I hold up Destroyer as closer, though, because the wizard is almost directly from a Kull story, and the monster at the end is really awesome, representing the kind of nightmarish vision that Howard liked to imply rather than describe directly. The more recent film is the one that implied the connection with a larger, unseen evil most fully, manifested through the pursuit of an Acheron crown, powered by blood and in pursuit by a king and his witch daughter. This is exactly the sort of thing that Howard wrote about.

So, while I haven't talked about the actual quality of these films, it really does feel like the Marcus Nispel, Jason Momoa adaptation is actually the closest overall to Howard's original source material. It's the least of the three in terms of quality, but I think it captures a lot of what Howard had written in a new medium accurately.

However, that being said, there's also a structural issue to talk about. The newest Conan film has this terrible, and very modern, sensibility that it needs to have an action beat every ten minutes. It's literally every ten minutes. The prologue, which lasts for 30 minutes, has three action beats (one to start, one in the middle, and one to end). The Howard stories don't operate like that at all. They're generally more sedate and ominous rather than moving from action beat to action beat ("Beyond the Black River" is something of an exception and does have a similar feel, to be fair). There is action, of course, but it's not so constantly repetitive. A forty page story may have two serious bits of action in it. So, while I feel like the world and characters are captured decently well, the actual structure is off. It's more of a metal action movie than a replication of Howard's work.

Solomon Kane


There is, of course, only one cinematic adaptation of Howard's character Solomon Kane, and it makes no effort to adapt any of the actual stories, most of which take place in Africa. It is, instead, an effort at an origin story, effectively treating the character like a comic book superhero whereas Howard had brought Kane into the literary world fully formed as the zealot for justice cloaked in language of the language of God while wearing the outfit of a Puritan. So, much like Milius creating the backstory of Conan, M.J. Bassett (writer and director) created a backstory from some individual lines that Howard had sprinkled through a couple of the stories as guidance. There is a mention of fighting the Turks, for instance, that becomes the basis for the entire prologue of the film where a viciously evil and younger Kane kills everyone in his way before he's confronted with the agent of the devil trying to take his soul to Hell. This sends him to a monastery back in England where he decides to seclude himself before the abbot sends him out in the world to seek his destiny: fighting evil.

The whole "soul is in danger" thing is a complete creation by Bassett without any textual backup from Howard's writing, but the portrait of a man trying to be good, seeing the evil in the world, and deciding to fight against evil in the service of good over the course of the rest of the film feels like the kind of backstory that Howard could have had in mind. The story that Kane goes through contains the exact kind of balance between real-world and otherworldly threats, manifested through a weird-looking guy with connections to a greater evil that we never quite see. It goes a bit overboard with the giant metal beast in the end, but Howard did have Kane fight harpies in the African mountains at one point. So...I don't think it's terribly off.

I suppose the biggest hit against it from an adaptation point of view is the effort to create a backstory at all which all of the others are guilty of as well, except for Kull which is terrible and was also meant to be a Conan movie anyway, implying that the previous films were the same character's previous history, including the original backstory in the first film. In addition, it doesn't feel the need to go breakneck action all the time, allowing for longer stretches without the swinging of swords, which helps it feel right from a structural point of view.

So, essentially, I think Solomon Kane is the closest to Howard's work out of the five films in question.

Order

If forced to order them by faithful adaptations, I'd go: Solomon Kane, Conan the Barbarian by Milius, Conan the Barbarian by Nispel, Conan the Destroyer, and then Kull the Conqueror. Honestly, though, there's no great answer. Only one of them actually tries to adapt a story, and that one does it badly. Most of them try to come up with backstories that Howard never wrote. The actual capture of the central characters is, on the whole, halfway decent. The sense of magic that Howard put in his work is also pretty good, though there's a range. So, this is something that I would never call an objective list, mostly just how I prioritize what I see in Kane and how much of it I find in the adaptations.

That should also not be taken as a ranking on their quality (that's stupid stuff...see mine here), just how I think the different filmmakers reflected the source writings. And, it's something of a mixed bag, but it presents a question: how important is accuracy to the source material? Personally, I'm not against taking a source, hollowing it out, and using it for something else. Generally. Sometimes sources are not very good but have potential for other things. However, we're usually talking about adaptations of things people actually like. Is it that all that's required for faithfulness to be important? There being an existing audience for it? Take some spy series no one really cares about like, say, The Bourne Identity, completely gut it, and then make a movie that people like. Is it bad because it's not accurate to the source?

Anyway


Which do you think is the most accurate adaptation? Is it also your favorite?

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

The Fall Guy
Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

Godzilla (Rating 1.5/4) Full Review "I really don't think this works, but Godzilla does stomp real good." [The Criterion Channel]

Rodan (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "So, it doesn't quite work as an overall package, hindered massively by its dull as dishwater middle, but the opening and close are surprisingly strong. I'd throw it on again for a light entertainment now and again." [The Criterion Channel]

Be Happy, These Two Lovers (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "A clear-eyed melodrama with restrained, Japanese form, Be Happy, These Two Lovers was a very good little discovery in the middle of a career that pushed in a very different direction. Honda was much more than monster mayhem." [Library]

The Mysterians (Rating 3/4) Full Review "However, in terms of his science-fiction work, it's a bit more thoughtfully crafted and comes together decently well." [The Criterion Channel]

The Human Vapor (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's an homage to classic Universal monster movies, film noir, and Howard Hawks that manages to feel alive on its own. This is, I think, deeply underappreciated. It's really good. I'm a fan." [Library]

Mothra (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "It looks good, moves quickly, and has some nice sights along the way. It's decently entertaining as it plays out, but it really could have used a rewrite." [The Criterion Channel]

Matango (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "I get into the weird atmosphere of it all as the characters go steadily insane while bizarre things unfold around them and engulf them. It's well filmed, well directed, well performed, and well put together. It's a good time at the movies." [The Criterion Channel]

Atragon (Rating 2/4) Full Review "Anyway, it's...okay. It has some interesting ideas that it doesn't explore in any serious way, but the ideas are there. The action is silly. The character-based storytelling is thin and unpursued. It's pretty typical fare, but it's not the worst thing. Spectacle has some benefits." [The Criterion Channel]

Contact

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I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.

My next post will be on 5/25, and it will talk about the films directed by Ishiro Honda.

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Comments

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1 Foist.

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 07:43 PM (IG4Id)

2 only one of them actually makes any attempt to adapt an actual story that Howard wrote.

Wait, which one?

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 07:44 PM (IG4Id)

3 That Conan movie is the one where James Earl Jones turns into a snake right?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2024 07:45 PM (QNSds)

4 I enjoyed the Solomon Kane movie despite never reading the source material

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 07:51 PM (n/1xr)

5 hay

Posted by: Ciampino - Duct-tape for the win at May 04, 2024 07:53 PM (qfLjt)

6 Dapper looking gent

no idea who he is

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 07:53 PM (/7KEl)

7 Never seen any of these films.

Posted by: Ciampino - Ducky at May 04, 2024 07:53 PM (qfLjt)

8 yes thats the one, the other was about the Dyonisian demon god,

Posted by: no 6 at May 04, 2024 07:54 PM (PXvVL)

9 Sock change.

That's all I got.

Posted by: Red at May 04, 2024 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)

10 I'm too tired to change socks, apparently.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2024 07:55 PM (Wnv9h)

11 The Human Vapor

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It would be great if that Lume undertit and vagina deodorant was a primary corporate sponsor.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:55 PM (YsjiM)

12 Good evening everyone
Finished watching Downfall within the last hour on YouTube
It is very good.
Now onto content

Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:56 PM (fwDg9)

13 Love this topic! My favorite, by far, is the Milius version, although for a reason that has little to do with faithfulness to Howard's story; rather for me it is that magnificent cinematic score by Basil Poledouris, which I consider one of the overall best musical scores ever written. It plays like a symphony to listen to on its own, and if I ever catch that movie playing I have to watch, because it's like listening to one of my favorite albums.
That's a movie where the music tells the story better and more completely than the dialogue does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 07:57 PM (R4z5M)

14 I watched "Conan the Barbarian" last night as TJM mentioned he'd be doing a post on Howard's works.

It still holds up as a fairly entertaining film, despite the flaws and lack of consistency with Howard's world.

The lack of long passages of dialog means you have to really watch the film to know what's going on. It's a feast for the eyes.

The world that is crafted is believable, but indeterminate in the past, melding together numerous cultures and societies across time and space.

Does it capture the *spirit* of Howard's world? Yeah, I think so, to some extent, even if it's not a direct adaptation of Howard's stories.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 07:58 PM (BpYfr)

15 I choose "Conan the Barbarian" because of Milius and Basil Polydouris. It has the atmosphere of a good fantasy story.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 07:59 PM (FkUwd)

16 Huh. The Solomon Kane thing reminds me of the show, Brimstone. Essentially the main character was a policeman. Guy rapes his wife. He hunts the guy down and murders him in cold blood. Dies by chance shortly thereafter. Goes straight to Hell. Wackiness ensues and he is given a deal by Lucifer: recapture 100 escaped souls, and he will have a chance at Salvation.

Teri Polo as a policewoman and John Glover as Lucifer (and also the Archangel Michael in one episode.)

It was a short lived show and also: I cannot believe it ever got made in the first place. Dear Lord. In Hollywood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:01 PM (di6C2)

17 Robert E. Howard kind of looks like Al Capone.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 08:02 PM (oaGWv)

18 2 only one of them actually makes any attempt to adapt an actual story that Howard wrote.

Wait, which one?
Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 07:44 PM (IG4Id)

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Kull the Conqueror has the vague shape of Conan the Conqueror or, under its original title, The Hour of the Dragon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:02 PM (GBKbO)

19 I watched "Star Wars" for the dozenth time and loved it. I choose to not let the actors, directors, prequels and sequels taint my enjoyment of the original trilogy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:02 PM (FkUwd)

20 One of my favorite scenes is one with no dialogue known as "The Atlantean Tomb", where Conan discovers the ancient sword. It's like a scene out of Tolkien that's even better than things Tolkien wrote.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 08:03 PM (R4z5M)

21 13 Love this topic! My favorite, by far, is the Milius version, although for a reason that has little to do with faithfulness to Howard's story; rather for me it is that magnificent cinematic score by Basil Poledouris, which I consider one of the overall best musical scores ever written. It plays like a symphony to listen to on its own, and if I ever catch that movie playing I have to watch, because it's like listening to one of my favorite albums.
That's a movie where the music tells the story better and more completely than the dialogue does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 07:57 PM (R4z5M)

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The movie soars when the score is front and center.

It's only not around the film's middle when they meet Osric and Conan sneaks into Thulsa Doom's cult (it's also where Arnold has most of his dialogue). That's when it suddenly feels kinda clunky.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:03 PM (GBKbO)

22 19 I watched "Star Wars" for the dozenth time and loved it. I choose to not let the actors, directors, prequels and sequels taint my enjoyment of the original trilogy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:02 PM (FkUwd)

They keep making it harder though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:03 PM (di6C2)

23 Spirit Valeria showing up in Barbarian is the best Conan moment.

Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 08:04 PM (SYTee)

24 This Australian site has a lot of the Robert E Howard works for free.

freeread.com.au/@RGLibrary/RobertEHoward/RobertEHoward.html

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 04, 2024 08:05 PM (xPl2J)

25 >>Throw in the fact that the innocent waif of a leading lady was Olivia d'Abo, who was fourteen at the time,

Ersatz Roman Polanski: I don't really see what the problem is?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 08:06 PM (XV/Pl)

26 Sisu 2022 is on and this old guy is a badass Finn.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:07 PM (NxC5+)

27
So if Ace won't let you do a Russ Meyer retrospective will he settle for an Andy Sidaris one?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 08:07 PM (MoZTd)

28 Long time since I've watched it, but find an episode of the Boris Karloff-hosted series THRILLER. "Pigeons from Hell" from Robert E. Howard's short story. Creepy as blazes, if memory serves.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 08:07 PM (q3u5l)

29 Sisu might be the best movie of the 2020's so far.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 04, 2024 08:08 PM (xPl2J)

30 27
So if Ace won't let you do a Russ Meyer retrospective will he settle for an Andy Sidaris one?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 08:07 PM (MoZTd)

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I suspect that I mostly just need to not piss off CBD.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:09 PM (GBKbO)

31 So if Ace won't let you do a Russ Meyer retrospective will he settle for an Andy Sidaris one?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 08:07 PM (MoZTd)

*shakes head sadly*

We always knew ace was gay. garret and shiny faces should have been a warning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:09 PM (di6C2)

32 I hated that Milius made Conan raised a slave.Ruins it for me. Conan left his tribe at about 15 because he killed the son of a chief in a fight over a woman iirc

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2024 08:10 PM (FQmDC)

33 Spirit Valeria showing up in Barbarian is the best Conan moment.
Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 08:04 PM (SYTee)
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As soon as she re-appeared, my mind immediately said, "Valkyrie"

Which kind of makes sense because there's definitely a Norse/Scandinavian vibe to the culture...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:10 PM (BpYfr)

34 So if Ace won't let you do a Russ Meyer retrospective will he settle for an Andy Sidaris one?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 08:07 PM (MoZTd)

Tinto Brass?

Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 08:10 PM (SYTee)

35 Sort of related:

If anyone enjoys Futurama, someone made... I'm not sure how to describe it. A real-life (AI I guess) 1950s trailer for the movie/series?

Futurama - 1950's Super Panavision 70

youtube.com/watch?v=eSq26Owny68

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (YsjiM)

36 I'm a fan of the genre but I really did not like the Conan movies except for the music. The acting was terrible and not just Arnold.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (inGXk)

37 33 As soon as she re-appeared, my mind immediately said, "Valkyrie"

Which kind of makes sense because there's definitely a Norse/Scandinavian vibe to the culture...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:10 PM (BpYfr)

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Milius essentially would just shrug when asked about it and say, "I like vikings and viking culture."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (GBKbO)

38 Yes polidaris score was tremendous even in destroyer which i saw first i only saw the original a year or two ago

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (PXvVL)

39 Roger Corman was usually always good for some epic big boobage. Not as much as Meyer or Sidaris, but then again most Corman movies had that troublesome plot thing they had to do.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (di6C2)

40 36 I'm a fan of the genre but I really did not like the Conan movies except for the music. The acting was terrible and not just Arnold.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (inGXk)

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Mako is great! James Earl Jones is really good! Max Von Sydow is great in everything!

The rest aren't asked to actually act all that much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (GBKbO)

41 The Solomon Kane movie didn't appeal to me, despite James Purefoy (aka Marc Antony) playing the lead role. For me, it didn't help that Elizabethan England seemed strangely depopulated.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (Be/+i)

42 He thoughr he was a reincarnated warrior if his bio by his daughter is to go by

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:13 PM (PXvVL)

43 And yes Red Sonja is a Marvel comics character, the one Howard story she appears in is very different set at the Seige of Vienna . Now she is just another girl boss.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2024 08:13 PM (FQmDC)

44 best part about Valeria was her 80s California surfer girl haircut

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:13 PM (/7KEl)

45 36 I'm a fan of the genre but I really did not like the Conan movies except for the music. The acting was terrible and not just Arnold.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (inGXk)

Wilt Chamberlain is not exactly the quintessential thespian.

He was straight, for one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:13 PM (di6C2)

46 38 Yes polidaris score was tremendous even in destroyer which i saw first i only saw the original a year or two ago
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (PXvVL)

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I really got the sense that de Laurentiis essentially just bought the rights to the music from Poledoris and had someone else do a bit of rearranging. I don't think there's an original note in the Destroyer soundtrack that isn't from Barbarian.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:14 PM (GBKbO)

47 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (YsjiM)

I liked it. But my mind went straight to making it Porn as the actual Futurama has porn scenarios they never show.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (inGXk)

48 Russ Meyer brought us the Dirty Dozen. It was his anecdote that led the author of that story to first research if it was true and eventual decision to write a novel

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (FQmDC)

49 Mako is great! James Earl Jones is really good! Max Von Sydow is great in everything!

The rest aren't asked to actually act all that much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (GBKbO)
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Thulsa Doom: Thorgrim is beside himself with grief!

Thorgrim: *looks mildly pouty*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (Be/+i)

50 Conan:

The Barbarian - ⭐⭐⭐⭐
The Destroyer - 🦨🦨🦨🦨

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (/7KEl)

51 Yes polidaris score was tremendous even in destroyer which i saw first i only saw the original a year or two ago

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM


Basil Poledouris knocked it out of the park with his musical score for Quigley Down Under. It was his best work on any film score IMO.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (QNSds)

52 Evening.

I think Olivia d'Abo was 15 at the time Conan The Destroyer was made.

I don't care. I'd hit that shit harder than Jeffrey Epstein with the FBI beating down his door.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:16 PM (1Yy3c)

53 Futurama - 1950's Super Panavision 70

youtube.com/watch?v=eSq26Owny68
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (YsjiM)
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That's creepy, weird, and awesome at the same time. Leela looks bizarre. Zoidberg is hideous. Amy is suitably hot.

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:16 PM (BpYfr)

54 Basil Poledouris knocked it out of the park with his musical score for Quigley Down Under. It was his best work on any film score IMO.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (QNSds)

And an underrated movie imo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:16 PM (di6C2)

55 Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:16 PM (1Yy3c)

*cough* 15, dude.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:17 PM (di6C2)

56 Basil Poledouris knocked it out of the park with his musical score for Quigley Down Under. It was his best work on any film score IMO.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (QNSds)
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Also scored "The Hunt for Red October."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:17 PM (Be/+i)

57 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:12 PM (GBKbO)

JEJ was ridiculous in that role imo. I kept picturing him wearing glasses .

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:18 PM (inGXk)

58 56 Also scored "The Hunt for Red October."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:17 PM (Be/+i)

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Tangentially, John McTiernan has been recently saying that he's still got some movies left to make in him. He also says that he gets offered directorial jobs for crap (I'm assuming stuff like Marvel movies).

I doubt it'll happen, but he did apparently get close to putting together a film right before covid happened.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:18 PM (GBKbO)

59 I'm not much for analyzing movies except in rare cases, so thanks for the illumination, TJM. Will say I like most of the Conans mentioned and Solomon Kane, mostly cause they're my thing. Don't recall seeing the Sorbo Kulls, so may have to at least check so I can say I did.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (ftFVW)

60 Sisu spoke nary a word thus far, actions speak volumes.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (NxC5+)

61 59 Don't recall seeing the Sorbo Kulls, so may have to at least check so I can say I did.
Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (ftFVW)

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Don't say I didn't warn you!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (GBKbO)

62 Well robocop a few years later

Yes that live action futurama was strange

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (PXvVL)

63 Re: Matango.

I couldn't get passed the part that this group of assholes and idiots decided to stay on that fucking island. You got some canned goods, your boat can still sail, but you're choosing to stay because...???????

Atragon has some worthwhile commentary on Japanese imperialism but overall it ends in an unexciting and anticlimactic fashion.

Mothra was awesome. Mothra was ridiculously fun and I loved it.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (1Yy3c)

64 . I don't think there's an original note in the Destroyer soundtrack that isn't from Barbarian.
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To be fair, Polidouris ripped off Prokofiev.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:20 PM (FkUwd)

65 Red October theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVBCxnKudhs

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:20 PM (/7KEl)

66 Basil Poledouris knocked it out of the park with his musical score for Quigley Down Under. It was his best work on any film score IMO.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2024 08:15 PM (QNSds)
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Now that you say that I agree. I probably didn't notice as much because it fit so well with thee we movie which is one of my favorites.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:20 PM (inGXk)

67 63 Re: Matango.

I couldn't get passed the part that this group of assholes and idiots decided to stay on that fucking island. You got some canned goods, your boat can still sail, but you're choosing to stay because...???????

Atragon has some worthwhile commentary on Japanese imperialism but overall it ends in an unexciting and anticlimactic fashion.

Mothra was awesome. Mothra was ridiculously fun and I loved it.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:19 PM (1Yy3c)

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In Matango, the sailing vessel wasn't sea worthy. They spend time trying to fix it up. The cargo-sized tanker was, of course, just not workable at all. They were trapped there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:21 PM (GBKbO)

68 McTiernan

Epic level
Predator
Die Hard
13th Warrior
The Hunt for Red October

What the F level
Last Action Hero
Medicine Man(?!)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:21 PM (di6C2)

69 Toronto - Boston, Game 7

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:21 PM (/7KEl)

70 I saw Solomon Kane ... a free watch on You Tube.

I found it enjoyable once it got going.

Posted by: browndog had time on his hands at May 04, 2024 08:22 PM (TTAGa)

71 When it comes to movie adaptations that people get mad about, the two that come to mind are Dune and Starship Troopers.

I haven't read either, and don't really care, generally agree with everyone's perspective on Lynch's Dune. It's weird, and since the book adherents hate it, I don't really know why he even made it.

As for Troopers, I come at it from the same perspective as those who say the filmmaker deliberately made a choice NOT to adapt the book faithfully. So... how's it stack up, as a standalone story, and frankly I liked it. I like the third film too, which I understand was somewhat more faithful, the second feels more like a made-for-tv knock-off.

As for the stuff talked about here? Never saw a Conan movie, generally dislike the genre. If it's even a genre.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:22 PM (cw9vy)

72 Didn't McTiernan go to prison?

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 04, 2024 08:22 PM (xPl2J)

73 71 I haven't read either, and don't really care, generally agree with everyone's perspective on Lynch's Dune. It's weird, and since the book adherents hate it, I don't really know why he even made it.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:22 PM (cw9vy)

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Mark Andrew Edwards loves Lynch's Dune, finds it to be very faithful, and thinks that it's more comprehensible than Villeneuve's version for those who haven't read the books.

I don't agree, but it definitely has its fans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:23 PM (GBKbO)

74 Last Action Hero...didn't like it much when I was a kid, love it now.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:23 PM (1Yy3c)

75 72 Didn't McTiernan go to prison?
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 04, 2024 08:22 PM (xPl2J)

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He did. Federal prison. Wiretapping charges.

Because he wiretapped his Rollerball producer.

He went to prison for Rollerball.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:24 PM (GBKbO)

76 Oh, and it’s
🍁vs🐻
On now … for the right to move into the next round of the Stanley Cup

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 08:24 PM (TTAGa)

77 Don't say I didn't warn you!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

I'll hold you blameless.

Surely they can't be worse than Waxwork which I loved as a kid and found terrible in the extreme upon rewatching last year.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:24 PM (ftFVW)

78 I will agree that Mako was the best of the bunch in Conan.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:25 PM (inGXk)

79 Sandahl Bergman in The first Conan for the win

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 04, 2024 08:25 PM (wxwMJ)

80 I've got a couple of the Conan soundtrack tunes on playlist.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 08:25 PM (Cp1vk)

81 Yes the third one which is often dubbed in soanish shows the federation more on its knees plus the blanc mange sky marshal

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:25 PM (PXvVL)

82 Oh that rollerball was a crime

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (PXvVL)

83 This might be a bit of a hot take: I watched about half of Treasure Island (before being interrupted): the version with Orsen Welles as Long John Silver. The movie seemed pretty book-accurate. But....Welles sucked as Long John Silver. Not charismatic at all. He just mumbled inaudibly. No idea how any pirate could have followed that version of him..

Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (Lhaco)

84 What the F level
Last Action Hero
Medicine Man(?!)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:21 PM (di6C2)

I don't really get the hate Last Action Hero gets. I mean, it's not cinematic masterpiece, but it's kind of fun.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:27 PM (cw9vy)

85 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:23 PM (GBKbO)

I really like Lynch's Dune but I didn't read the book.

I liked the first new Dune movie. Haven't watched the second part yet but I read they did stray from the book at the end.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:27 PM (inGXk)

86 This might be a bit of a hot take: I watched about half of Treasure Island (before being interrupted): the version with Orsen Welles as Long John Silver. The movie seemed pretty book-accurate. But....Welles sucked as Long John Silver. Not charismatic at all. He just mumbled inaudibly. No idea how any pirate could have followed that version of him..

Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (Lhaco)
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The Disney version with Robert Newton (the definitive Long John) is quite faithful to the book. Bobby Driscoll is a bit jarring at first, but they surrounded him with first-rate character actors.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:28 PM (Be/+i)

87 Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy

Heck ya! By far my favorite Silver of the versions I've seen.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:28 PM (ftFVW)

88 It was quite a let down from the other schwartzenegger films but it isnt terrible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:28 PM (PXvVL)

89 I think my favorite Conan adaptation is "Conehead the Barbituate" (sic) in Mad Magazine.

Don Martin does all the artwork, so it's hilarious from start to finish.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (BpYfr)

90 83 This might be a bit of a hot take: I watched about half of Treasure Island (before being interrupted): the version with Orsen Welles as Long John Silver. The movie seemed pretty book-accurate. But....Welles sucked as Long John Silver. Not charismatic at all. He just mumbled inaudibly. No idea how any pirate could have followed that version of him..

Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (Lhaco)

Watch the one with Christian Bale and Charleton Heston, it's really good (imho).

Posted by: browndog had time on his hands at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (TTAGa)

91 Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy
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He's fantastic, and the opening number is just awesome!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (Be/+i)

92 Back to Conan...

Okay, so we all know the "what is best in life" speech, right?

The dude that speaks just before Conan says, "The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist and the wind in your hair."

And honestly that sounds great to me.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (1Yy3c)

93 85 I really like Lynch's Dune but I didn't read the book.

I liked the first new Dune movie. Haven't watched the second part yet but I read they did stray from the book at the end.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:27 PM (inGXk)

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It strays in a literal sense, but I think it's in an effort to keep to a thematic interpretation that is in line with the original work. It's not like they went way off course overall. They changed some characters in a way to push the central idea further.

And then there's Chani whom they changed for dumb purposes and doesn't work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:30 PM (GBKbO)

94 Sisu spoke nary a word thus far, actions speak volumes.
Posted by: Eromero

The actor playing his Nazi tormentor is Aksel Henne, a Norwegian actor who's been in some really good stuff. He's in a film on Netflix right now called The Trip that is wild. I recommend it.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 08:30 PM (Cp1vk)

95 Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (Lhaco)
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Tim Curry will chew the scenery given half a chance and it's glorious every time!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:30 PM (BpYfr)

96 I don't really get the hate Last Action Hero gets. I mean, it's not cinematic masterpiece, but it's kind of fun.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:27 PM (cw9vy)

When I saw it as a kid, it seemed... well completely fake at even what it was trying to do. It was not out to entertain me whatsoever and succeeded admirably.

Pick a lane. Try to say something or parody action movie tropes.

I paid to see this btw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:30 PM (di6C2)

97 Speaking of adaptations, finished watching Langoliers yesterday. It looks like a made for tv movie. Cuz it is!

I've only read a few King books, and the ones I have read, I'm of the view Kubrick's The Shining is stupid garbage, even though I know that's not a poopular view (King hates it). The Stand? Eh, it's faithful, but still has that made for tv look about it.

This Langoliers thing is just dumb and pointless, and the best part of the whole 3 hour film is the very last shot. It's funny, whether it was intentional or not.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:31 PM (cw9vy)

98 I liked the first new Dune movie. Haven't watched the second part yet but I read they did stray from the book at the end.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:27 PM (inGXk)

I just purchased Dune 2 ...

I'll get around to it later tonight after the Leafs vs Bruins game.

Posted by: browndog had time on his hands at May 04, 2024 08:31 PM (TTAGa)

99 Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (Lhaco)

Muppets make everything better.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:31 PM (1Yy3c)

100 98 I just purchased Dune 2 ...

I'll get around to it later tonight after the Leafs vs Bruins game.
Posted by: browndog had time on his hands at May 04, 2024 08:31 PM (TTAGa)

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I get my 4K disc in 10 days.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (GBKbO)

101 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.

Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)

102 Watch the one with Christian Bale and Charleton Heston, it's really good (imho).
Posted by: browndog had time on his hands at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (TTAGa)

I liked that one.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (inGXk)

103 Give me Tim Curry as LJS in Muppet Treasure Island any day of the week!
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:26 PM (Lhaco)
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Who wants Muppet Conan? I do.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (FkUwd)

104 And then there's Chani whom they changed for dumb purposes and doesn't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Yeah, the changes of Chani kind of bothered me since I reread the books leading up to the release of part 2. Not sure how he's going to square that with where things go in Messiah.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (ftFVW)

105 Well that film was kermingled in more than a few ways including two intros

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (PXvVL)

106 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)
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Who here would rather have seen James Purefoy as Captain Carter rather than Kantos Kan?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (Be/+i)

107 101 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)

And fairly faithful to the book.

Plus, the Dejah Thoris they got was hot as hell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (di6C2)

108 101 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)

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The problem with that marketing campaign was that they gave control of it to the director, Andrew Stanton.

The trailers were generally terrible and gave no idea as to what the film was about while assuming some kind of deep appreciation of a public domain property that hadn't been directly in the cultural limelight for decades.

It might have had a better shot if Disney's actual marketing team had been in control.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (GBKbO)

109 The dude that speaks just before Conan says, "The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist and the wind in your hair."

And honestly that sounds great to me.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (1Yy3c)

Meh, if there aren't lamentations of the women, I don't see the point of living.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (cw9vy)

110 Never saw Last Action Hero all the way through. But the sequence near the beginning where the kid imagines Arnie doing Hamlet is a delight. I can't imagine how many takes must have been required to get that on film, because seems to me half the crew would have been rolling on the floor during the shoot.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (q3u5l)

111 And then there's Chani whom they changed for dumb purposes and doesn't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:30 PM (GBKbO)

That's the character played by Zendaya, right?

Zendaya sucks.

Fuck Zendaya.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (1Yy3c)

112 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy

I liked John Carter when I found out it was a a current film based on what people thought science fiction was a hundred years ago. Plus I like the actor, Taylor or Tyler Kitsch I think?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (Cp1vk)

113 And it is so obvious that the movie was made in another time. They give Thoris a bit more agency than the books, but they also play on the fact that she is hot enough to want to fight a World for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (di6C2)

114 Who wants Muppet Conan? I do.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

*raises hand vigorously*

I also want to see the full puppet Dracula from the end of Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:35 PM (ftFVW)

115 I'll get around to it later tonight after the Leafs vs Bruins game.
Posted by: browndog had time on his hands at May 04, 2024 08:31 PM (TTAGa)

Spoiler alert:








Bruins lose 3-2

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:35 PM (cw9vy)

116 >>>>Watch the one with Christian Bale and Charleton Heston, it's really good

Turner Classic Movies showed this last year. It's was OK. A little long, over two hours.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 04, 2024 08:35 PM (xPl2J)

117 Yeah, the changes of Chani kind of bothered me since I reread the books leading up to the release of part 2. Not sure how he's going to square that with where things go in Messiah.
Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (ftFVW)
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They certainly time-compressed the events in Dune 2. Alia is still in utero at the end of the movie, when in the book, several years have passed, Paul and Chani had already had a son who was killed in the Harkonnen attack on Sietch Tabr, and Alia's already got a rep as an abomination.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:35 PM (Be/+i)

118 Yes leaving out the whole mars component in the marketing

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:36 PM (PXvVL)

119 112 I liked John Carter when I found out it was a a current film based on what people thought science fiction was a hundred years ago. Plus I like the actor, Taylor or Tyler Kitsch I think?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (Cp1vk)

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There was some crackpot astronomer who thought he saw running rivers of water on Mars in the early 20th century. Edgar Rice Burroughs read this theory, latched onto it, and ran with it. I don't think he considered what he was writing to be anything other than crazy fantasy stuff, but there was, sort of, a scientific basis for it. But not really.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:36 PM (GBKbO)

120 "John Carter" is not a very faithful adaption as regards the character of Carter himself, but I still found it very enjoyable and loved the Amazing Stories aesthetic.

It was just horribly expensive and poorly marketed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:36 PM (FkUwd)

121 107 101 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)

And fairly faithful to the book.

Plus, the Dejah Thoris they got was hot as hell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (di6C2)

This opinion is factual and correct.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:37 PM (1Yy3c)

122 Plus, the Dejah Thoris they got was hot as hell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (di6C2)

That she was.

Producers and directors, please to notice that she was not a waif ... she was round in all the right places.

Posted by: browndog remembers ... ahhooo hubba hubba at May 04, 2024 08:37 PM (TTAGa)

123 Percival lowell who inspired wells and burroughs

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:37 PM (PXvVL)

124
The dude that speaks just before Conan says, "The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist and the wind in your hair."

And honestly that sounds great to me.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:29 PM (1Yy3c)

Dat ist because you are a Little Girly Man, Schweinhund!!!

Posted by: Ah-nold the Destroyer at May 04, 2024 08:37 PM (S6gqv)

125 Never saw Last Action Hero all the way through. But the sequence near the beginning where the kid imagines Arnie doing Hamlet is a delight. I can't imagine how many takes must have been required to get that on film, because seems to me half the crew would have been rolling on the floor during the shoot.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (q3u5l)

The whole thing sorta reminds me of Hudson Hawk in that way.

Is the movie schock? Sure it is, but they obviously had fun making it, and I get some enjoyment from that fact alone.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:38 PM (cw9vy)

126 Who here would rather have seen James Purefoy as Captain Carter rather than Kantos Kan?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (Be/+i)

I liked Kan enough in the role that I don't know if Purefoy would had made a difference. That said some people who have read the book a movie is based on ,including me , have a picture in their head of what the character should look like.

I've never watched American Assassin because I didn't like anyone they cast in that movie.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:38 PM (inGXk)

127 They went more steampunk western until the first hour

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:38 PM (PXvVL)

128 Muppetized Angel the Vampire was one of the funniest "Angel" episodes ever.

"You're a wee little puppet man!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:38 PM (FkUwd)

129 127 They went more steampunk western until the first hour
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:38 PM (PXvVL)

That was that abomination with Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford: Cowboys and Aliens

Posted by: browndog remembers ... ahhooo hubba hubba at May 04, 2024 08:40 PM (TTAGa)

130 I am watching Plan 9 From Outer Space via Rifftrax. *chef's kiss*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 08:40 PM (gPzkP)

131 There was some crackpot astronomer who thought he saw running rivers of water on Mars in the early 20th century. Edgar Rice Burroughs read this theory, latched onto it, and ran with it. I don't think he considered what he was writing to be anything other than crazy fantasy stuff, but there was, sort of, a scientific basis for it. But not really.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:36 PM (GBKbO)
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The "crackpot astronomer" was Schiaparelli, who contributed mightily to the naming of features of Mars and the Moon. He observed what he thought to be linear features and called them "canali," "channels." This was mistranslated into English as "canals," which caused much hilarity.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:41 PM (Be/+i)

132 120 "John Carter" is not a very faithful adaption as regards the character of Carter himself, but I still found it very enjoyable and loved the Amazing Stories aesthetic.

It was just horribly expensive and poorly marketed.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:36 PM (FkUwd)

The character of John Carter is kind of blank in the books. He is resolute Hero Man. This is not unusual for the time period- especially for books of this type. Does Aragorn in the books really agonize over his destiny? NO. He does not. It is a much more fleshed out character in the those movies and works well (fairly.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:41 PM (di6C2)

133 Muppetized Angel the Vampire was one of the funniest "Angel" episodes ever.

"You're a wee little puppet man!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:38 PM (FkUwd)
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Yes it was.

Though the puppet sticking his hand in the back of the human to control him was a bit disturbing and weird.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:41 PM (BpYfr)

134 Producers and directors, please to notice that she was not a waif ... she was round in all the right places.
Posted by: browndog remembers ... ahhooo hubba hubba at May 04, 2024 08:37 PM (TTAGa)

Good voice too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:42 PM (di6C2)

135 131 The "crackpot astronomer" was Schiaparelli, who contributed mightily to the naming of features of Mars and the Moon. He observed what he thought to be linear features and called them "canali," "channels." This was mistranslated into English as "canals," which caused much hilarity.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:41 PM (Be/+i)

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You know, I remember reading the thing about the mistranslation being the source of the error. And yet, it didn't come to mind when I tried to recall my Burroughs apocrypha.

Thanks for the correction. I feel silly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:42 PM (GBKbO)

136 Pug, I saw that in the theater some years ago. Rifftrax in a crowded theater with other Misties is the way to go.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:42 PM (FkUwd)

137 I also want to see the full puppet Dracula from the end of Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Posted by: She Hobbit at May 04, 2024 08:35 PM (ftFVW)

Hah I thought the same thing . Muppet tech also help make Farscape a fan favorite.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (inGXk)

138 Using DDG to see if I could download Be Happy, These Two Lovers the very first choice presented was ----- >

Be Happy, These Two Lovers - David Vining, Author
Apr 18, 2024

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (lCWOD)

139 Does Aragorn in the books really agonize over his destiny? NO. He does not. It is a much more fleshed out character in the those movies and works well (fairly.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:41 PM (di6C2)

I think that's what bothers me most about Jax's films. Everyone agonizes.

Oh just shut up and do your thing. The world is at stake.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (cw9vy)

140 138 Using DDG to see if I could download Be Happy, These Two Lovers the very first choice presented was ----- >

Be Happy, These Two Lovers - David Vining, Author
Apr 18, 2024
Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (lCWOD)

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Sounds like an ass! Don't click!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (GBKbO)

141 138 Using DDG to see if I could download Be Happy, These Two Lovers the very first choice presented was ----- >

Be Happy, These Two Lovers - David Vining, Author
Apr 18, 2024
Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (lCWOD)

Obligatory:

I don't get it ...

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:44 PM (TTAGa)

142 Though the puppet sticking his hand in the back of the human to control him was a bit disturbing and weird.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:41 PM (BpYfr)

But enough about Joe Biden...

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:44 PM (cw9vy)

143 David Vining, Author
Apr 18, 2024
Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (lCWOD)

Hack, just ignore him. Better to focus on the righteous and true opinions of the collected Moron Horde.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:45 PM (1Yy3c)

144 And c &a was a john favreau film

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:45 PM (PXvVL)

145 Re: John Carter

I still wonder if Disney could have recovered from their blunder if they'd just named the movie "John Carter of Mars."

Those last two words give you a proper sense that this movie is out of this world.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:45 PM (BpYfr)

146 Decided to go with the CBC feed for tonight's game.

There's no Bob Cole, but it's still a damn sight better then ABC.

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:46 PM (TTAGa)

147 I think that's what bothers me most about Jax's films. Everyone agonizes.

Oh just shut up and do your thing. The world is at stake.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:43 PM (cw9vy)

Aragorn in the books is not king- and that's ok. It is not his time yet. When it is time, that is what he does- because it is his duty. He does not agonize over his fate or whether he is a good enough man. He is what he is.

Modern characterization has the same cast iron tropes, they are just different from what they used to be.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:46 PM (di6C2)

148 I still wonder if Disney could have recovered from their blunder if they'd just named the movie "John Carter of Mars."

Those last two words give you a proper sense that this movie is out of this world.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:45 PM (BpYfr)
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They didn't do it until the end title of the movie. Sad.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:46 PM (Be/+i)

149 144 And c &a was a john favreau film
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:45 PM (PXvVL)

Was it really ???

Well, he redeemed himself with the Iron Man series.

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:47 PM (TTAGa)

150 Another week without mention of the greatness that is Summer School starring Mark Harmon. Sad.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 08:47 PM (u73oe)

151 Aragorn in the books is not king- and that's ok. It is not his time yet. When it is time, that is what he does- because it is his duty. He does not agonize over his fate or whether he is a good enough man. He is what he is.
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He also had been working toward that goal for sixty-eight frickin' *years*. That's single-mindedness.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:47 PM (Be/+i)

152 He was also working from the graphic novel

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (PXvVL)

153 Okay, I'm out.

I'm going to watch Lethal Weapon which is a movie I haven't seen since...shiiiiiiiiit...I don't think I've seen it once in this century.

*Pours himself a drink*

I'm gettin' too old for dis shit.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (1Yy3c)

154 150 Another week without mention of the greatness that is Summer School starring Mark Harmon. Sad.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 08:47 PM (u73oe)

I'd rather think about his sister, the one who did the Tic Tac ads.

She was cute ...

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (TTAGa)

155 One thing I notice about Plan 9 is that one of the cops looks a lot like Joe lo Truglio from Brooklyn 99.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (gPzkP)

156 Okay I just watched that puppet Dracula musical and yes it needs to be a full length movie.

Plus Bill Hader!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (FkUwd)

157 To be fair, Polidouris ripped off Prokofiev.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:20 PM (FkUwd)'

Polidouris said openly that he spent years studying the great composers to get a feel for their work. In the pieces with a vocal chorus (such as "Riders of Doom") he said he was directly inspired by Karl Orff, most well known for "Carmina Burana".

this clip has a GOT battle scene set to "Riders of Doom", it works great for any battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYikkFnbQ8

Posted by: Ah-nold the Destroyer at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (S6gqv)

158 I'm naming my next cat Sisu.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (NxC5+)

159 Another week without mention of the greatness that is Summer School starring Mark Harmon. Sad.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 08:47 PM (u73oe)

Mom waiting for someone to do an in depth review of the complete Emmanuel series of films.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (1Yy3c)

160 Modern characterization has the same cast iron tropes, they are just different from what they used to be.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:46 PM (di6C2)

I would go so far as to suggest this is a fundamental difference in meat space, as much as it is in fiction.

Considering Tolkien's time, men did what men are supposed to do, and so did the women.

These days, everyone has to let the world know how much of a struggle it is for them, and you should give them all sorts of space to emote, because you hater you.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (cw9vy)

161 152 He was also working from the graphic novel
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (PXvVL)

Shoulda got the guy who did "Sin City" then ...

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (TTAGa)

162 *Pours himself a drink*

I'm gettin' too old for dis shit.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (1Yy3c)

The sad thing: When you realize that Murtagh might be younger than you are now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (di6C2)

163 Okay, now I'm out.

Night!

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 08:50 PM (1Yy3c)

164 Shoulda got the guy who did "Sin City" then ...
Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (TTAGa)

Sin City and 300 were lightning in a bottle. The right time, the right directors and good stuff (although some of the themes in Sin are... odd and 300 has the whole raping of Leonidas' wife which kind of pisses me off, but anyway.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:51 PM (di6C2)

165 Ah, Robert E Howard movies! I also own all 6. ....And 8 Del Rey collections of his original short stories. And the entire 10 omnibus run of the Marvel Conan the Barbarian comics, all 8 of the (published thus far) Savage Sword of Conan omnibuses, the 3 Kull Omnibuses, the singular Solomon Kane Omnibus... (deep breath) ...And the Red Sonja Mavel years omnibus, the 5 Red Sonja: She-Devil with a Sword omnibuses from Dynamite, assorted other Red Sonja comics, about 6 omnibuses of the Dark Horse Conan run. The first tpb of the current Conan comics from Titan, and the first issue of the revived Savage Sword of Conan magazine.

...I'm a little bit obsessive on the topic.

I really wish the movies were better. Only the first Conan and the Solomon Kane movies are truly good, but neither really catch the feel of REH.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:51 PM (Lhaco)

166 Night Robert.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:51 PM (di6C2)

167 When you don't have the lighting?

You get The Spirit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:51 PM (di6C2)

168 The sad thing: When you realize that Murtagh might be younger than you are now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (di6C2)

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 08:51 PM (u73oe)

169 Weird. Just got an automated message from an agency in Colorado that my son last used almost 2 years ago, reminding me they will be closed for the Labor Day holiday.

There's a glitch in the matrix.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (cw9vy)

170 I really wish the movies were better. Only the first Conan and the Solomon Kane movies are truly good, but neither really catch the feel of REH.
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 08:51 PM (Lhaco)

Might have to check out the Solomon Kane movies...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (di6C2)

171 The sad thing: When you realize that Murtagh might be younger than you are now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (di6C2)

Murtagh ... Danny Murtaugh ???

My Grampa's favorite baseball manager. Go Bucco's ...

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (TTAGa)

172 Omg that was terrible and samuel jackson and scarlet johansen yikes

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (PXvVL)

173 Might have to check out the Solomon Kane movies...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (di6C2)

Give the 1st one time to get going ...

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (TTAGa)

174 Arnold's best acting movie probably True Lies. Also probably his best movie also.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:53 PM (inGXk)

175 Whew. Murtagh is 50 in the first Lethal Weapon.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:53 PM (di6C2)

176 I see that

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:53 PM (PXvVL)

177 Dinner's up! Ta!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (Be/+i)

178 The sad thing: When you realize that Murtagh might be younger than you are now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:49 PM (di6C2)

You...monster!

Posted by: Robert really is out...movie's on! at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (1Yy3c)

179 I only vaguely recall Solomon Kane and my recollection was that it was *terrible*

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (ibTVg)

180 The character of John Carter is kind of blank in the books.

For a reason.

Posted by: isekai at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (gKWVE)

181 Murtagh ... Danny Murtaugh ???

My Grampa's favorite baseball manager. Go Bucco's ...
Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:52 PM (TTAGa)

I bet your grampy would have a thing or two to say about how and why some managers end up in the Hall of Fame, and some don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (cw9vy)

182 "True Lies" seemed mean spirited to me. Never saw it a second time.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:55 PM (FkUwd)

183 I bet your grampy would have a thing or two to say about how and why some managers end up in the Hall of Fame, and some don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (cw9vy)

That old boy scared the hell out of me.

I was an Indians fan, and he had no linking for the junior circuit.

But yes, yes he would ...

Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:56 PM (TTAGa)

184 "True Lies" seemed mean spirited to me. Never saw it a second time.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 08:55 PM (FkUwd)

I can see that. I don't like it, but didn't really know exactly why, until you put it that way.

Him and his wife are playing games with their marriage.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:57 PM (cw9vy)

185 If you're digging the Rifftrax, YouTube has several channels that run MST3K episodes and Rifftrax, sans commercials.

Currently up: Starfighters starring B-1 Bob Dornan.

Laaaaa la la laaaaa

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 08:57 PM (Cp1vk)

186 174 Arnold's best acting movie probably True Lies. Also probably his best movie also.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:53 PM (inGXk)

I think it is one of the best put together movies. Everyone does a great job.

'You're new on Harry's team, aren't you?' 'Uh, yeah.' 'Then what makes you think the slack I cut him in any way extends to you?'

'The guy is a G**ddammned used car salesman!'

'I have to lie to women to get them to sleep with me! I got a little dick- it's pathetic!'

'They call him the Sandspider.' 'Why?' 'Probably because it sounds scary.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:57 PM (di6C2)

187 53 Futurama - 1950's Super Panavision 70

youtube.com/watch?v=eSq26Owny68
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:11 PM (YsjiM)
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That's creepy, weird, and awesome at the same time. Leela looks bizarre. Zoidberg is hideous. Amy is suitably hot.

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:16 PM (BpYfr)

LOL I love that take on it too!!!

Posted by: Ah-nold the Destroyer at May 04, 2024 08:57 PM (S6gqv)

188 Off Ah-nold sock!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 08:59 PM (S6gqv)

189 Whew. Murtagh is 50 in the first Lethal Weapon.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:53 PM (di6C2)
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Uh, somehow that doesn't make me feel better...(that's what I'll be turning later this year)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:59 PM (BpYfr)

190 For a reason.
Posted by: isekai at May 04, 2024 08:54 PM (gKWVE)

Valid, but that is kind of pre-genre. Well, it is completely pre-genre. Sort of.

The tropes people accuse Tolkien of indulging in HE created, so are they really tropes?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:59 PM (di6C2)

191 Plan 9: The pilot's wife looks like Jim Parsons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 08:59 PM (gPzkP)

192 I was an Indians fan, and he had no linking for the junior circuit.

But yes, yes he would ...
Posted by: browndog stealing lines like Carlos Mencia at May 04, 2024 08:56 PM (TTAGa)

Ah! Then here's two for that subject: Sam McDowell and Albert Belle.

Both should be enshrined. The interesting question worth asking, considering the period of greatness by Koufax in that era: How much better was Koufax, than McDowell.

I would argue, not much at all. If any.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:59 PM (cw9vy)

193 Sin City and 300 were lightning in a bottle. The right time, the right directors and good stuff (although some of the themes in Sin are... odd and 300 has the whole raping of Leonidas' wife which kind of pisses me off, but anyway.)

The second 300 movie was terrible. And its odd because you could make a ton of interesting movies about the various Greek on Greek wars between the Persian war and the Romans coming in...

And then another "interesting" Snyder film like Sin City was Sucker Punch but the underlying story is so damn dark (and prior to Epstein just too unbelievable right?). He basically made an anime movie in live action that didn't seem ridiculous...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 09:00 PM (ibTVg)

194 the unique approach to magic and evil.

The magic is people don't know we're evil.

Posted by: Big Penguin at May 04, 2024 09:00 PM (a3Q+t)

195 Milius's Conan captures the spirit of the Conan stories. That's enough.

Destroyer is just awful. Robert Jordan 's novelization is actually much better, gives it that Conan feel.

I haven't even bothered with the Mamoa one. Faithful adaptation or note, he's only in shit films in general (when he's the lead anyway), and I'm not wasting more time on him.

I've read a fair amount of Howard (all Conan, some horror, some pulp), but no Kull or Kane. So I have no frame of reference. I've seen neither movie. Won't bother. Sorbo wears an even bigger "kick me" sign than Mamoa. And Kane more or less doesn't appeal.

Posted by: What Is Best at May 04, 2024 09:00 PM (B2Hcq)

196 Other than switching the places of the Milius and Nispel "Barbarians", I agree with everything you said.
I would say Nispel is more faithful, but Milius is more enjoyable anyway.

Posted by: Sam at May 04, 2024 09:00 PM (7jMef)

197 In defense of some of the lesser REH movies:

Conan the Destroyer actually works if you view it as a Dungeons and Dragons movie. A party goes on a quest to raid a dungeon and steal a treasure to secure the fate of the world. And the party is full of standard fantasy-fiction archetypes: The Barbarian, the Thief, the Wizard, the Cleric/Priestess, the Ranger/Barbarian, and the Paladan/Knight/Barbarian.

The Kull movie just feels like a side project from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys. Replace the Greek backdrop with non-descriptly medeval setting, throw in a few guitar riffs...I kinda wish they had gone harder with the guitar, though.

I don't have much good to say about the most recent Conan movie. There are a handful of decent moments, but it's suffused with modern-movie tropes and attitudes which just kills any interest I try to muster.

The Red Sonja movie doesn't have much going for it, either. Which is a pity, because I wish it did. I'm almost tempted to re-watch the Red Sonja episode of the Conan TV show, because they at least tried (red-head, in a red-leather bikini) and showed some enthusiasm for the project.

Such a pity. The REH character deserve so much better..

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:01 PM (Lhaco)

198 Milius is one of those directors that churned out hit after hit but since his politics wasn't left I suspect this legacy isn't as mentioned as it would have been otherwise...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 09:01 PM (ibTVg)

199 True Lies kinda lost me at Arnie's treatment of Jamie Lee Curtis.

Think he was at his best in the first Terminator and in Predator. (And of course in the Hamlet sequence of Last Action Hero)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:02 PM (q3u5l)

200 Seems the the CBC feed is about 10-15 seconds ahead of ABCs

1:00 to go in the 1st

0-0

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:02 PM (TTAGa)

201 199 True Lies kinda lost me at Arnie's treatment of Jamie Lee Curtis.

Think he was at his best in the first Terminator and in Predator. (And of course in the Hamlet sequence of Last Action Hero)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:02 PM (q3u5l)

Hmmm, I think it is all right until he has her brought in and interrogated. That bridging section between the two parts of the movie is over the top (even if it includes the strip tease*.) But the second half of the movie is just cheesy bananas.

*think of Jamie Lee Curtis now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:05 PM (di6C2)

202 123 Percival lowell who inspired wells and burroughs
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:37 PM (PXvVL)

If you're in Flagstaff, Az, there's a wonderful observatory in the mountains outside of town which was built by Percival Lowell and is still operating; it's where he made all of his observations and one could say it's almost kind of a shrine to him now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:05 PM (S6gqv)

203 Regarding the soundtracks: I bought the score of both Barbarian and Destroyer off iTunes, and I use them as a (randomized) soundtrack for whenever I'm reading a high-fantasy comic or novel. Great work, on each of the movies.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:06 PM (Lhaco)

204 Coming soon: Britney Griner, in "Nocans, the Dribbler."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 09:07 PM (8zz6B)

205 111 And then there's Chani whom they changed for dumb purposes and doesn't work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:30 PM (GBKbO)

That's the character played by Zendaya, right?

Zendaya sucks.

Fuck Zendaya.
Posted by: Robert



Yep. Haven't seen the latest Dune attempt. I'll get around to it. They keep trying to make Zendaya a thing. She's not. Can't act. A modern version of Jessica Alba except Alba is an absolute smokeshow of a woman. Zendaya is cute but Alba, damn, she was something. She can't act either.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 09:08 PM (+J/Au)

206 Hmmm, I think it is all right until he has her brought in and interrogated. That bridging section between the two parts of the movie is over the top (even if it includes the strip tease*.) But the second half of the movie is just cheesy bananas.

*think of Jamie Lee Curtis now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:05 PM (di6C2)

Curtis has a prominent role in the teevee show, Scream Queens, which was a real hoot (first season, at least). She's terrific in it, but yeah, no. Not sexy.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:08 PM (cw9vy)

207 198 Milius is one of those directors that churned out hit after hit but since his politics wasn't left I suspect this legacy isn't as mentioned as it would have been otherwise...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 09:01 PM (ibTVg)

Obligatory - watch the Big Lebowski. The Coen bros were good friends with Milius, and everyone in Hollywood who knew him agreed that Walter Sobchak IS John Milius. Brilliant, insightful, vast amounts of knowledge, and also impossible to work with and completely out of his fucking gourd most of the time. That's why he didn't do any more work than he did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:08 PM (S6gqv)

208 78 I will agree that Mako was the best of the bunch in Conan.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 08:25 PM (inGXk)

It blew my mind when I re-watched Conan the Barbarian after Avatar: The Last Airbender (animated) debuted. It took me a moment to actually make the connection, but once I figured out that the opening narration was being done by Uncle Iroh.... Well, lets just say that both properties became a whole lot more epic.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:10 PM (Lhaco)

209 I shall sprechen blasphemous in saying that I care not a sheisse about the source material with re: the original Conan the barbarian movie.

It was absolutely bonkers to see it in the theater as a lad, and will always be one of my favorite So Bad It's Classic Movies of AllTime. Just nuts from beginning to end and I loved it.

So there ya go.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 04, 2024 09:10 PM (/RHNq)

210 Been watching a few videos from the Critical Drinker lately. Very entertaining.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 09:10 PM (u73oe)

211 207 Obligatory - watch the Big Lebowski. The Coen bros were good friends with Milius, and everyone in Hollywood who knew him agreed that Walter Sobchak IS John Milius. Brilliant, insightful, vast amounts of knowledge, and also impossible to work with and completely out of his fucking gourd most of the time. That's why he didn't do any more work than he did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:08 PM (S6gqv)

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And then he got very sick.

I'm actually surprised the 4K discs of Conan the Barbarian came out while he was alive. The Directors Guild requires that directors approve new scans of films for home video, and 4K requires new scans (first for the scan itself and then for any sort of extra pass like HDR, which Conan does have). I was surprised that they were able to find time with him for it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:11 PM (GBKbO)

212 A bio-pic of the life of Robert E. Howard would make for an interesting psychological drama. He lived in a small Texas town all his life, couldn't hold down a steady job, eaked out a living compulsively hammering out short stories for shady pulp publications, and committed suicide at 34 due to the death of his mother.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 09:11 PM (Js20g)

213 One day Hollywood will make the Kane series by Karl Edward Wagner.

And they will screw it up too.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:11 PM (D7oie)

214 How much better was Koufax, than McDowell.

I would argue, not much at all. If any.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 08:59 PM (cw9vy)

The Sudden One was every bit the equal of Sandy. The two problems were:
1) Sam played in Cleveland, on a pedestrian team
2) He had a problem with booze

Annnnd, he had a propensity to want to throw a curve ball at the wrong damn time,

As to Albert Belle … my man! There was no scarier batter to have to face for that brief period of time in the mid 90s. My favorite moment of his was when he came out of the dugout, after hitting a home run, and flexing one bicep - as if to say o don’t need to cork my bat to beat your ass.

I contend that had the season not been cancelled in ‘94, the Tribe would have gone to the playoffs, and had every reason to be considered favorites to win it all.

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:13 PM (TTAGa)

215 Can't recall seeing Mako in anything where he wasn't fun to watch. If you haven't caught them before, check out The Sand Pebbles, a Chuck Norris flick called An Eye for an Eye, and a made-for-tv movie with Darren McGavin called The Challenge. Mako was terrific in all three.

And I think he did a guest shot in an episode of MASH where he put Alda and Farrell in their places quite nicely. Could be remembering wrong on that one though.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:15 PM (q3u5l)

216 I think all the Asian actors working at the time did guest shots on M*A*S*H

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 09:16 PM (/7KEl)

217 The Sudden One was every bit the equal of Sandy. The two problems were:
1) Sam played in Cleveland, on a pedestrian team
2) He had a problem with booze

Annnnd, he had a propensity to want to throw a curve ball at the wrong damn time,

As to Albert Belle … my man! There was no scarier batter to have to face for that brief period of time in the mid 90s. My favorite moment of his was when he came out of the dugout, after hitting a home run, and flexing one bicep - as if to say o don’t need to cork my bat to beat your ass.

I contend that had the season not been cancelled in ‘94, the Tribe would have gone to the playoffs, and had every reason to be considered favorites to win it all.
Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:13 PM (TTAGa)

I'm not sure where the fences were when McDowell was pitching, but considering park differences, I think a lot of what Koufax is credited for is at least in part skewed by Dodger Stadium.

As for Belle, he was a jerk. No other way to describe it, but even with the abbreviated career, there's no damn reason for him not to be in Cooperstown.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:16 PM (cw9vy)

218 Jack Soo

and he was in Barney Miller too

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 09:17 PM (/7KEl)

219 101 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)

I had just read Princess of Mars for the first time when that movie became a thing. Its failure angered me to no end. First and foremost, the marketing: I understand changing the name from 'Princess of Mars' to 'John Carter of Mars.' But to call it simply 'John Carter'? That just missed the whole point of the movie! They even had a big JCM (the acronym of John Carter of Mars) in the logo! But for some inexplicable reason they dropped the 'of Mars'....

One very interesting aspect of that book/film: there is only one Green Martian who is a genuinely good person. And the difference between her and everyone else? She knew her father. All the other Green Martians are raised collectively, but she was raised knowing who her father was. He wasn't even particularly kind or gentle: he was just there, and generally looked out for her. And that was all the difference between bloodthirsty beasts and a person of compassion.

That could have been such a 'subversive' message had the movie chosen to focus on it...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:18 PM (Lhaco)

220 A bio-pic of the life of Robert E. Howard would make for an interesting psychological drama

I doubt they could do that for HPL. As soon as he calls his cat over for mealtimes, the theatre will get bomb threats . . .

Posted by: gKWVE at May 04, 2024 09:18 PM (gKWVE)

221 I was surprised that they were able to find time with him for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:11 PM (GBKbO)

I want to add - was it you who said you met John Goodman in NYC years ago as a bartender, or was that JJ Sefton? Anyway I think Goodman's portrayal of Sobchak is the best performance he did in any of his movies. He's perfect in the role.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:21 PM (S6gqv)

222 A bio-pic of the life of Robert E. Howard would make for an interesting psychological drama.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy


Do you trust anything connected to H-wood at this point in time to do anything like that?

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 09:21 PM (IG4Id)

223 107 101 John Carter by Disney. Could have been very successful, but it wasn't nearly woke enough for them to promote.
Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 08:32 PM (Z7BHa)

And fairly faithful to the book.

Plus, the Dejah Thoris they got was hot as hell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD



Lynn Collins

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 09:22 PM (+J/Au)

224 130 I am watching Plan 9 From Outer Space via Rifftrax. *chef's kiss*
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 08:40 PM (gPzkP)

Best way to watch a lot of movies! It's not one of their breakout hits, but I love their presentation of Sunset Strip. It comes with a new way to be silly (but still engaging) every 10 minutes or so.

Personally, I put it right up there with Miami Connection....

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:24 PM (Lhaco)

225 "John Carter" held some kind of record for being a Disney corporate train wreck. It should have been titled "John Carter of Mars" but the Disney suits had just had a minor flop with the juvenile fantasy "Mars Needs Moms" and decided the word "Mars" must be box office poison.
Supposedly, when the movie was released, searching for "John Carter" would only bring up references to one of the characters on the hit TV show "E.R."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 09:27 PM (Js20g)

226 "... and a made-for-tv movie with Darren McGavin called The Challenge..."
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I've been watching those old made-for-tv movies on YouTube. They're usually only an hour and fifteen minutes and a good way to unwind before bed. "The Challenge" was a pretty decent Cold War tale of two men selected to fight as proxies for their nations on a tiny island.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 09:27 PM (FkUwd)

227 I know nothing about the Conan films but the pic of Mr. Howard's mug could kick off a decade's worth of film noir treatments.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:29 PM (WXNFJ)

228 And re: The Challenge

When I watched it again a few years ago, I just about didn't recognize Sam Elliott without the mustache.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:29 PM (q3u5l)

229 I'm not sure where the fences were when McDowell was pitching, but considering park differences, I think a lot of what Koufax is credited for is at least in part skewed by Dodger Stadium.

As for Belle, he was a jerk. No other way to describe it, but even with the abbreviated career, there's no damn reason for him not to be in Cooperstown.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:16 PM (cw9vy)

Fences were 385 / 400 / 385 … with the foul poles being 325.

Albert was not fan friendly to be sure, but I sure loved him in a Tribe uni …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:31 PM (TTAGa)

230 I always pictured Robert E. Howard looking like Dan Harmon at the end of the third season of Community.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 09:32 PM (gPzkP)

231 And it is so obvious that the movie was made in another time. They give Thoris a bit more agency than the books, but they also play on the fact that she is hot enough to want to fight a World for.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:34 PM (di6C2)


The mix of practical effects and CGI was excellent, and the whole concept of the Lightflyers was fantastic. Technically it was a wonderful movie, and some of the actors were inspired choices for the roles.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:32 PM (D7oie)

232 Hiya James Monroe !

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 09:33 PM (T4tVD)

233 The second 300 movie was terrible. And its odd because you could make a ton of interesting movies about the various Greek on Greek wars between the Persian war and the Romans coming in...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 09:00 PM (ibTVg)

I second the disappointment in the 300 sequel. Especially when there were such obvious options for paralleling the first movie. Imagine the Athenian Admiral yelling at the assembly: You will fight with us at Salamis, or we will not fight at all! (In real life, the Athenian navy issued an ultimatum that the allied fleet would fight at Salamis, or the Athenian fleet would bail, and relocate their entire population to Italy...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:33 PM (Lhaco)

234 A bio-pic of the life of Robert E. Howard would make for an interesting psychological drama.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Do you trust anything connected to H-wood at this point in time to do anything like that?
Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 09:21 PM (IG4Id)

I bet they would portray him as a deeply closeted homosexual, with mommy issues, whose only outlet was creating fantasy worlds. If you read between the lines of Howard's biography...

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 09:33 PM (Js20g)

235 I want to add - was it you who said you met John Goodman in NYC years ago as a bartender, or was that JJ Sefton? Anyway I think Goodman's portrayal of Sobchak is the best performance he did in any of his movies. He's perfect in the role.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:21 PM (S6gqv) John Goodman was good in The Big Easy, as was the whole cast.

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 09:33 PM (NxC5+)

236 232 Hiya James Monroe !
Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 09:33 PM (T4tVD)

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*waves enthusiastically*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:33 PM (GBKbO)

237 Eris,

When you're checking out the made-for-tv movies, catch one called See the Man Run, with Robert Culp and Angie Dickinson. A little of the dialog and delivery struck me as a tad like fingernails on a blackboard, but it was a nice little kidnap caper story with some good twists to it.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:34 PM (q3u5l)

238 There's a surprising number of well made tv movies from the 70's. They really put some effort into them. "Duel", Spielberg's first film that put him on the path, was an ABC movie of the week in 1971.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:34 PM (S6gqv)

239 169 Weird. Just got an automated message from an agency in Colorado that my son last used almost 2 years ago, reminding me they will be closed for the Labor Day holiday.

There's a glitch in the matrix.
Posted by: BurtTC a
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I keep getting texts saying I haven't registered to vote and they will help me register. ***I VOTED***

Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 09:35 PM (lCWOD)

240 I just got the Arrow 4K "Conan the Barbarian" by John Milius.
But I haven't watched it yet.

It's got practically no sorcery, but I think it's the best possible Robert E. Howard adaptation there could be. The performances (by a bunch of athletes and James Earl Jones) are wonderful, the soundtrack is awesome, and it has the epic scope the Conan stories need.

The thing I remember most from the stories is that whenever Conan met a woman, he "bruised her lips" with his kisses. Pretty great kisser I guess.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 04, 2024 09:35 PM (CHHv1)

241 238 There's a surprising number of well made tv movies from the 70's. They really put some effort into them. "Duel", Spielberg's first film that put him on the path, was an ABC movie of the week in 1971.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:34 PM (S6gqv)

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When Spielberg passes his mortal coil, I'm going to include his TV movies in the inevitable run.

I'm prepping a run of Friedkin right now, and he had 4 made for TV movies. I almost completely missed them until I noticed his adaptation of 12 Angry Men. Gotta find time for the other 3!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:35 PM (GBKbO)

242 There was some crackpot astronomer who thought he saw running rivers of water on Mars in the early 20th century. Edgar Rice Burroughs read this theory, latched onto it, and ran with it. I don't think he considered what he was writing to be anything other than crazy fantasy stuff, but there was, sort of, a scientific basis for it. But not really.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:36 PM (GBKbO)


It was Percival Lowell, who was THE specialist in optical astronomy, and he thought he saw "canals"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:36 PM (D7oie)

243 I like Taylor Kitsch, but I do not think he was quite the right choice for John Carter. He is not horrible, just not quite right. Too dirty ranger.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:36 PM (di6C2)

244 There's a surprising number of well made tv movies from the 70's. They really put some effort into them. "Duel", Spielberg's first film that put him on the path, was an ABC movie of the week in 1971.
Posted by: Tom Servo

On YouTube, I came across a sequel to Darrin McGavin's Night Stalker called the Night Strangler. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 09:36 PM (Cp1vk)

245 215 Can't recall seeing Mako in anything where he wasn't fun to watch. If you haven't caught them before, check out The Sand Pebbles, a Chuck Norris flick called An Eye for an Eye, and a made-for-tv movie with Darren McGavin called The Challenge. Mako was terrific in all three.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:15 PM (q3u5l)

I saw Sand Pebbles once, long ago. Very downer of an ending. But the premise really stuck with me.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 04, 2024 09:37 PM (Lhaco)

246 In 300, I just couldn't get past the way that Xerxes moving throne looked like a winning float entry from a San Francisco Gay Pride parade. I mean really that entire movie was one of the gayest things I have ever watched.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:37 PM (S6gqv)

247 I'm not sure where the fences were when McDowell was pitching, but considering park differences, I think a lot of what Koufax is credited for is at least in part skewed by Dodger Stadium.

As for Belle, he was a jerk. No other way to describe it, but even with the abbreviated career, there's no damn reason for him not to be in Cooperstown.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:16 PM (cw9vy)

Fences were 385 / 400 / 385 … with the foul poles being 325.

Albert was not fan friendly to be sure, but I sure loved him in a Tribe uni …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:31 PM (TTAGa)

Those are hitter friendly dimensions. I went to a game there in the 80s, fascinating to see all the real estate beyond the fences as they were placed then. Must have made hitting home runs before they put in the fences, damn close to impossible.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:38 PM (jUq8k)

248 246 In 300, I just couldn't get past the way that Xerxes moving throne looked like a winning float entry from a San Francisco Gay Pride parade. I mean really that entire movie was one of the gayest things I have ever watched.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:37 PM (S6gqv)

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I've honestly never liked the movie. I think it's dumb.

It's weird how I can get fans to turn on a full quarter of the film: everything with Queen Gorgo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:38 PM (GBKbO)

249 When Spielberg passes his mortal coil, I'm going to include his TV movies in the inevitable run.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

Spielberg also directed a segment of the Night Gallery pilot episode. I don't remember it being very good, but he did it.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 09:38 PM (Cp1vk)

250 It was Percival Lowell, who was THE specialist in optical astronomy, and he thought he saw "canals"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:36 PM (D7oie)

Well, Schiaparelli had noted "channels", so the idea was out there. And if you see a bunch of dots, and your mind is looking for channels, the dots get connected.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 09:39 PM (8zz6B)

251 And there really are some huge erosional channels on Mars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 09:40 PM (8zz6B)

252 Xerxes sat on a hill overlooking the battle of Salamis. On google maps you can go to that same hill and get basically the same view he had. The site of the battle looks to be some kind of port facility now.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 09:41 PM (ibTVg)

253 He was also working from the graphic novel
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 04, 2024 08:48 PM (PXvVL)


He stated in an interview that he had first found the story reading the graphic novel, and he thought more people had read that than the books.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:41 PM (D7oie)

254 249 Spielberg also directed a segment of the Night Gallery pilot episode. I don't remember it being very good, but he did it.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 04, 2024 09:38 PM (Cp1vk)

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The only episodes of television I do are those who dis Masters of Horror episodes, which was honestly a mistake. I shouldn't be doing those. They're director for hire jobs.

That being said, I will do Honda's work on the first episode of Mirrorman mostly because he gave up on feature films for the last decade of his career until Toho brought him back for the last Godzilla film of the Showa era.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:41 PM (GBKbO)

255 I have read some of Howard's sports and western stories, and he was a good writer, even in those genre

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:42 PM (D7oie)

256 I keep getting texts saying I haven't registered to vote and they will help me register. ***I VOTED***
Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 09:35 PM (lCWOD)

Pretty sure those are just straight up scams.

Saw the video of the guy who had an uber driver show up at his house, right after he was told on the phone he needed to pay some outrageous money to for some reason or another... and the uber driver was told to show up at his house to receive a package.

So he shot and killed her. Somebody did that, on purpose.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:42 PM (jUq8k)

257 It was Percival Lowell, who was THE specialist in optical astronomy, and he thought he saw "canals"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:36 PM (D7oie)
In other words, early Carl Sagan?

Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 09:42 PM (NxC5+)

258 If memory serves, Spielberg directed the pilot film for Rod Serling's Night Gallery (or maybe it was only one segment of it).

There were a bunch of those 70s Movie of the Week flicks that I'd like to have on disc. One written by Howard Rodman felt like a pilot that didn't make it, about a pair of ex-cops turned bounty hunters called Two for the Money was pretty good as I recall it. The first pilot for David Janssen's Harry O series was one of these as well, I think. Robert Culp did several. One that did come out on disc was from an early Michael Crichton novel called Binary (movie was called Pursuit); Ben Gazzara and E. G. Marshall were in it and it was a nice little suspense flick.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:43 PM (q3u5l)

259 I was surprised that they were able to find time with him for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:11 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah it's one of those Big Historical Epics with a talented cast that just kind of fizzles out with a "Meh" ending. I think that's why it's really not all that well known, it's one of those movies that is *almost* good and which tried really hard, but just really never quite gets there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:44 PM (S6gqv)

260 In 300, I just couldn't get past the way that Xerxes moving throne looked like a winning float entry from a San Francisco Gay Pride parade. I mean really that entire movie was one of the gayest things I have ever watched.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:37 PM (S6gqv)

Check out the deleted scenes of the movie. In one shot, they had Xerxes riding on an armored rhinoceros.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 09:44 PM (Js20g)

261 258 If memory serves, Spielberg directed the pilot film for Rod Serling's Night Gallery (or maybe it was only one segment of it).

There were a bunch of those 70s Movie of the Week flicks that I'd like to have on disc. One written by Howard Rodman felt like a pilot that didn't make it, about a pair of ex-cops turned bounty hunters called Two for the Money was pretty good as I recall it. The first pilot for David Janssen's Harry O series was one of these as well, I think. Robert Culp did several. One that did come out on disc was from an early Michael Crichton novel called Binary (movie was called Pursuit); Ben Gazzara and E. G. Marshall were in it and it was a nice little suspense flick.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 09:43 PM (q3u5l)

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Kino did release the three seasons of Night Gallery, at least. Here's the first:
https://amzn.to/4dp1j5A

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:45 PM (GBKbO)

262 I've honestly never liked the movie. I think it's dumb.

It's weird how I can get fans to turn on a full quarter of the film: everything with Queen Gorgo.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:38 PM (GBKbO)

There are several huge downsides.

-Leonidas seems to be a noble dude and wise ruler. Why rebuke and insult the hunchback (because the plot needs to happen.)

-Xerxes comes off... odd. I get what they are trying to do, contrast the nobility and cleanliness of the Spartans with the base corruption and decadence of the Persians. Ok. But the Persians come off more as BDSM freaks than an actually threat.

-The Gorgo stuff is mostly all bad.

What the movie has going for it is it has great scenes (as if from a comic!) But here is a lot of drek in there too. Same with Sin City (which also has a lot of the sexual oddity in there too- I wonder why?!)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:45 PM (di6C2)

263 In 300, I just couldn't get past the way that Xerxes moving throne looked like a winning float entry from a San Francisco Gay Pride parade. I mean really that entire movie was one of the gayest things I have ever watched.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:37 PM (S6gqv)

I resist talking about that film, when it comes up here because the whole damn thing is so gay, it makes San Franny gay pride parades seem butch.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:46 PM (jUq8k)

264 yikes I was talking about the Sand Pebbles.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:46 PM (S6gqv)

265 armored rhinoceros.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 09:44 PM (Js20g)

I saw Armored Rhinoceros open for Mastodon at the Fillmore in Denver.

Or...did I? Might have been a Ny-quil dream.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 09:47 PM (gPzkP)

266 262 What the movie has going for it is it has great scenes (as if from a comic!) But here is a lot of drek in there too. Same with Sin City (which also has a lot of the sexual oddity in there too- I wonder why?!)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:45 PM (di6C2)

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I still genuinely love Sin City. It's something of a mess, but I'm good with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:47 PM (GBKbO)

267 I did buy the Snyder cut Justice League recently.

I'll watch it when I have more hours than I do tonight. Not expecting much, other than given all the fuss, I figure I should.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:47 PM (jUq8k)

268 Saw the video of the guy who had an uber driver show up at his house, right after he was told on the phone he needed to pay some outrageous money to for some reason or another... and the uber driver was told to show up at his house to receive a package.

So he shot and killed her. Somebody did that, on purpose.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:42 PM (jUq8k)

The Uber driver was an innocent patsy, but the extortionists had been hounding the shooter for a long time, so I really don't blame him for disbelieving her claims of innocence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 09:48 PM (8zz6B)

269 267 I did buy the Snyder cut Justice League recently.

I'll watch it when I have more hours than I do tonight. Not expecting much, other than given all the fuss, I figure I should.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:47 PM (jUq8k)

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I think it's pretty good. I sort of like Snyder. Sort of.

Sucker Punch, 300, Army of the Dead, and Rebel Moon are dumb. I have some affection for the rest of his work, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:48 PM (GBKbO)

270 It counts as a goal when your player goes through the net, crossing the goal-line, right??

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 09:48 PM (UfUdn)

271 yikes I was talking about the Sand Pebbles.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:46 PM (S6gqv)

I don't recall the gay Xerxes scene in that one.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:48 PM (jUq8k)

272 Saw a cheeztastic TV movie yesterday: "Fer-de-lance", about snakes loose on a submarine.

Snakes on a muthaf****** sub!

David Janssen and Ivan Dixon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 09:50 PM (FkUwd)

273 men stem shtop walwe?

men stem shtop walwe!

men stem shtop walwe!!

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 09:50 PM (UfUdn)

274 Must have made hitting home runs before they put in the fences, damn close to impossible.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:38 PM (jUq8k)

Heh, yeah the dimensions to dead centerfield were 463 if I’m not mistaken, and the power alleys were 423.

Albert could have handled those … but not Big Daddy Wagner 🤣

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:50 PM (TTAGa)

275 rue Lies mean spirited?

That's a new one for me.


I have to put that on my list of things I just don't see.

John Wayne being screwed by Stewart in The Man who Shot Liberty Vance

Jenny being an evil bitch in Forest Gump

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 09:50 PM (MNhXM)

276 Made for TV movie: Sole Survivor... Shatner, Baseheart, Evans.

Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 09:51 PM (SYTee)

277 I think it's pretty good. I sort of like Snyder. Sort of.

Sucker Punch, 300, Army of the Dead, and Rebel Moon are dumb. I have some affection for the rest of his work, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:48 PM (GBKbO)

I don't hate his version of Watchmen. Not sure why the "big threat" toward the end needed to be changed, but honestly, that's not that big a deal.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:51 PM (jUq8k)

278 and a made-for-tv movie with Darren McGavin called The Challenge. Mako was terrific in all three.

Posted by: Just Some Guy

Even back then, I remember noticing McGavin's character sneaking around the island hoping to sneak up on Mako while puffing away on a presumably stinky cigar.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:51 PM (WXNFJ)

279 I still genuinely love Sin City. It's something of a mess, but I'm good with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:47 PM (GBKbO)

I do too, but I have the almost exact same feeling for it that I do 300 in a lot of ways.

For every kicking the emissary down the well (don't spoil water, this is the ancient world!) you have Queen Grogu.

For every shot of Clive Owen jumping into a car, you have the weird shit with Willis and puffy lipped Jessica Alba confessing their love for each other.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:51 PM (di6C2)

280 277 I don't hate his version of Watchmen. Not sure why the "big threat" toward the end needed to be changed, but honestly, that's not that big a deal.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:51 PM (jUq8k)

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Because giant space octopus is dumb. Alan Moore isn't some sort of master genius god. He can have dumb ideas, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:52 PM (GBKbO)

281 I'll cop to liking "Sucker Punch" and "Army of the Dead", and wish he'd have spend his time on the sequel to"Army" rather than the awful "Rebel Moon".

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 09:52 PM (FkUwd)

282 I resist talking about that film, when it comes up here because the whole damn thing is so gay, it makes San Franny gay pride parades seem butch.

Remember when we all got covered in oil and had to scrape it off?

Posted by: gKWVE at May 04, 2024 09:52 PM (gKWVE)

283 the immortals (2011)

Posted by: gKWVE at May 04, 2024 09:52 PM (gKWVE)

284 -Leonidas seems to be a noble dude and wise ruler. Why rebuke and insult the hunchback (because the plot needs to happen.)
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hubris

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (UfUdn)

285 I still genuinely love Sin City. It's something of a mess, but I'm good with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:47 PM (GBKbO)

Same. I ended up buying the graphic novel, but haven't gotten around to reading it.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (jUq8k)

286 Love that pic of Ahnuld and Grace Jones. They were obviously having way too much fun.

Posted by: Pat*'s Hubbie at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (6afOC)

287 The Gorgo stuff is mostly all bad.

When I hear the name Gorgo, I think of that bad Brit monster movie GORGO

It was no Godzilla that’s for sure …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (TTAGa)

288 Sin City had Carla Gugino's gazangas.

Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (SYTee)

289 hubris
Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (UfUdn)

Nemesis.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:54 PM (di6C2)

290 So, I read all of them.
In FOUR WEEKS?! Wow. Because that's a LOT of writing.

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 09:54 PM (1zxQh)

291 John Wayne being screwed by Stewart in The Man who Shot Liberty Vance

Posted by: polynikes

Once again, some punk ass politician making hay out of a tall tale. Just like today.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:54 PM (WXNFJ)

292 288 Sin City had Carla Gugino's gazangas.
Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (SYTee)

Also one of it's strong points. Damn.


Almost Amanda Peet Whole Nine Yards level of surprise nudity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:55 PM (di6C2)

293 I don't hate his version of Watchmen. Not sure why the "big threat" toward the end needed to be changed, but honestly, that's not that big a deal.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:51 PM (jUq8k)

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Because giant space octopus is dumb. Alan Moore isn't some sort of master genius god. He can have dumb ideas, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 09:52 PM (GBKbO)

Absolutely! I thought it was sorta meant to be a dumb idea, and would have been very hard to film, so I think changing it was fine, I'm just not sure why he did.

Snyder being Snyder, he probably had some reasons that sounded very smart in his own head.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:55 PM (jUq8k)

294 8 Sin City had Carla Gugino's gazangas.
Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2024 09:53 PM (SYTee)


Yes it did , and I had no idea they were that wonderful …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:55 PM (TTAGa)

295 Once again, some punk ass politician making hay out of a tall tale. Just like today.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:54 PM (WXNFJ)

Eyepatch McCain shot Liberty Valence?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:56 PM (di6C2)

296 I like Sin City. A really weird, trippy movie, but one I do not watch very often.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 09:56 PM (gPzkP)

297 > I mean really that entire movie was one of the gayest things I have ever watched.

Horseshoe theory for heterosexuality. The straightest thing you can watch is at least a 6/10 on the gaydar. EG Commando.

Solomon Kane was always a zealot, and that is what we love him for.

Pirate: So you'll just shoot me down, in cold blood?
Kane: With a joyous heart.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 04, 2024 09:56 PM (lhenN)

298 This is a wide open hockey game at the moment

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:56 PM (TTAGa)

299 hubris
Posted by: andycanuck (

Nemesis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Harrigan, that's me!

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 09:56 PM (UfUdn)

300 I don't recall the gay Xerxes scene in that one.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:48 PM (jUq8k)

... when you need a new thread just to get away from your posting mistakes...

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:58 PM (S6gqv)

301 And speaking of Alan Moore, I've mentioned it here before, some guy wrote a comic a few years back, about how the writer took in a homeless guy, and had sex with him. Even if you're into gay sex, the book (and illustrations) are the most disgusting things ever inked.

Moore wrote a long, glowing preface to the book.

The homeless guy... looks exactly like Alan Moore.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:58 PM (jUq8k)

302 🎶H-A -double R - I - GAN spells Harrigan 🎶

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 09:58 PM (TTAGa)

303 both goalies playing shutdown hockey

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (/7KEl)

304 Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:45 PM (di6C2)


I think the hunchback part is actually part of the Thermopylae story.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (MNhXM)

305 The homeless guy... looks exactly like Alan Moore.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:58 PM (jUq8k)

This too is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (di6C2)

306 ... when you need a new thread just to get away from your posting mistakes...
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 09:58 PM (S6gqv)

Ask and ye shall receive.....

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (jUq8k)

307 I finally bought and watched 'The Black Phone.' I've been watching horror movies lately. This one could have been scarier but was fantastic. Set in the 1970's, a guy is grabbing young boys off the street and putting them in his dungeon.

He grabs Finney and has him in the dungeon. A black phone keeps ringing. The dead victims keep calling Finney to help him escape. Meanwhile, his sister that has 'dreams', is trying to find him.

Madeleine McGraw won a chainsaw award for her performance. She was amazing. Stole the movie. Alcoholic father that beats her, tough, swears like a sailor. I'm not a fan of kids cursing in movies but with her character Gwen, it worked.

Madeleine's little sister, Violet, was the star of M3GAN, another not too scary horror film. When I had Instagram, I followed Maddy because she didn't tick me off. Very sweet family for two horror stars.

Here's Gwen telling off some cops....
https://tinyurl.com/yvey75se

Posted by: Stateless at May 04, 2024 10:00 PM (jvJvP)

308 The homeless guy... looks exactly like Alan Moore.
Posted by: BurtTC


Except for the fact that Moore is a multi-millionaire crank who thinks he's a celtic wizard.

Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 10:00 PM (IG4Id)

309 Neither of these teams can beat the Rangers, or the Panthers …

Posted by: browndog is a reluctant Bruins fan at May 04, 2024 10:00 PM (TTAGa)

310 yeah, [300 definitely had homoerotic undertones

Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 10:01 PM (/7KEl)

311 ONT is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (di6C2)

312 Shtand up! Shutdown!
Fight! Fight! Fight!

Posted by: lateral lisp cheerleading squad at May 04, 2024 10:02 PM (UfUdn)

313 If anyone's interested in a list of those ABC made for TV flicks, Wikipedia has a list of 'em in order of broadcast. Search for ABC movie of the week there and you should find it.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 04, 2024 10:06 PM (q3u5l)

314 I see ESPN/ABC intermission hosts are as dumb as CBC's.

Turns back to CBC; adjusts sound level to 0.

Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 04, 2024 10:06 PM (UfUdn)

315 A bio-pic of the life of Robert E. Howard would make for an interesting psychological drama. [ . . . ]
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2024 09:11 PM (Js20g)


There was something of a biopic, it is called The Whole Wide World, and I never saw it.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:07 PM (D7oie)

316 I think the hunchback part is actually part of the Thermopylae story.
Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 09:59 PM (MNhXM)


It is, it is in Herodotus, though I think he wasn't actually a hunchback, or at least that was not his main characteristics.
Also there was a decided lack of drug fueled orgies in Herodotus' version of the Peloponnesian war

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:21 PM (D7oie)

317 Just wanted to say I always liked the Solomon Kane movie. I wish they had made more of them. That character just seemed unique and intriguing.

A movie I watched recently that was better than I thought it would be is Knox Goes Away. It is not a perfect movie, but it does something which movies rarely do anymore --- it pays off in the end.

Whereas the movie we watched tonight, Late Night with the Devil, absolutely does not pay off. It has a good premise, and it has stuff I am primed to like such as a James Randi like skeptic. But it just doesn't work. It is slow taking off and when it gets going it doesn't really go anywhere that is worth the time you put in.

Posted by: Thatch at May 04, 2024 11:18 PM (rgb6F)

318 The problem with that marketing campaign was that they gave control of it to the director, Andrew Stanton.
The trailers were generally terrible and gave no idea as to what the film was about while assuming some kind of deep appreciation of a public domain property that hadn't been directly in the cultural limelight for decades.

It might have had a better shot if Disney's actual marketing team had been in control.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 04, 2024 08:33 PM (GBKbO)
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When it comes to woke, never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by malice.

Posted by: goofy at May 04, 2024 11:24 PM (Z7BHa)

319 Matango also holds the distinction of being the only film based on the works of William Hope Hodgson.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at May 04, 2024 11:50 PM (N0oGS)

320 Milius erred in providing a backstory for Conan --- one fundamentally at odds with his character --- but once the film moves past that it's tonally consistent with the REH Conan stories and even borrows specific elements from some of the better ones ("The Tower of the Elephant", "Queen of the Black Coast", "A Witch Shall Be Born", and "Red Nails").

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at May 04, 2024 11:54 PM (N0oGS)

321 I hate Kull and the Jason Moama Conan. I did like Solomon Kane, but i misplaced my bootleg version. I have the other 2 Conan movies on blu ray but not 4k. One of my favorite comic books is Marvel Treasury Edition #4. It reprints Conan the Barbarian #11 and Savage Tales #2–3 in 10"x14". A Barry Windsor coffee table art book for $10 at the con? YES, PLEASE!

Posted by: hurricane567 at May 05, 2024 02:07 AM (1x1bw)

322 Every single thing in here is wrong.

Every single thing. I'm amazed. I've never seen a combination of reviews miss every possible point so completely.

Posted by: tevildo at May 05, 2024 01:54 PM (UGjoX)

The Weekend Hobby Thread (5/4/24) Authored TRex

Bahnco Spanner Enkoping.jpg


*****

Welcome hobbyists. Do not adjust your interweb. A spin of the Ace of Spades “wheel of hobbies” has come up with tools. In this case, “tools” refers to implements of hobbying rather than people who are annoying.

Interested in your favorite tools, tools you’ve acquired or inherited, mystery tools, tools that you wish you used more often, tools that you’ve acquired or tools that you’ve built, tools loved and lost, tools that saved the day, most obscure tools, oldest and newest tools, and tools with sentimental value. What tool have you bought knowing you had absolutely no use or need but couldn’t resist because it was impossibly cool and clever? Come forth with your stories of tools.
Looking forward to silliness and shenanigans until CDB releases a fresh music thread.
As usual, keep this thread limited to hobbies. Politics and current events can wait for other threads. Wear your safety glasses and do not smash your finger with a hammer.

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What time is it? Tool time!

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Top photo: The modern crescent-style wrench did not come from the US. Instead, it traces to inventor J.P. Johansson in Enkoping, Sweden. He earned a patent for the first crescent-style wrench in 1892. (In the U.S., Crescent Tool Co. first built a crescent-style wrench in 1907.) Wrenches were made in Enkoping under the Bahco brand name for many years. The large-scale sculpture was installed in a Enkoping round-about as a nod to its history.

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“TRex, I have an old wrench that could use some restoration. How can I do that?”
Well-made tools can have multiple lives: Restoring an old wrench

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“TRex, I’ve heard that some people collect wrenches. Do you have an example? What’s the most desirable wrench for a collector?” Glad you asked.
John Deere originally made plows. In 1912, the conservative company considered expanding into tractors. A board member, Joseph Dain, was tasked with developing and building a prototype. He did and it was tested. 100 were made in 1917 and 1918 and sold mostly in the Dakotas. In 1918, Deere bought the Waterloo Gasoline Tractor Company and its Waterloo Boy tractor which was much cheaper. That was the end of the Dain tractor. Apparently, Deere repurchased almost all, had them destroyed, and didn’t really acknowledge the Dain. Only two are said to remain. By this point, you’re likely asking, “TRex, what does any of this have to do with tools?”
A wrench was delivered with each tractor. Only nine (or eleven? Or twelve?) are known to survive. One was sold at auction in 2017 for $16,500.


Other sales have brought big money, so that wasn’t an aberration. Collectors aren’t just looking for wrenches: A rusty toolbox that was mounted on the tractor was sold at auction in 2018 for $10,000.

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“TRex, can I use a wrench to apply leverage with my screwdriver?” Yes. Yes, you can (presuming you have the right wrench and screwdriver).


***

“TRex, I know this isn’t the gun thread, but my hobby is firearms. What basic tools should a gunsmith have?”

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“TRex, what happens with all those tool returns to Home Depot?” Apparently, some of them get bundled together on pallets and sold in bulk at liquidation auctions.

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“TRex, are there sites on the interweb with unusual tools that I didn’t know existed and didn’t know I needed?” Yes, yes there are. Life has an endless supply of use cases and clever people developing solutions.

Popular Mechanics: 13 Weird Tools You've Likely Never Seen Before (My favorite is the “Dogleg Reamer,” mostly because of the name.)


Family Handyman: 15 Bizarre Looking Tools and What They’re Used For (Don’t miss the Lignatool Set Schnittführung)

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Engineering flowchart:

  • If it doesn't move and it should, use the WD-40.

  • If it moves and it shouldn't, use the duct tape.

  • If either doesn't work, use the hammer.
  • ***

    “TRex, isn’t duct tape the world’s most useful tool?” We won’t wade into the “duct v. duck” tape debate, but this video has a ton of history:

    ***

    This thread is sponsored by Binford Tools.

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 05:30 PM




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    1 Welcome Hobbiests

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:30 PM (fwDg9)

    2 Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:31 PM (inGXk)

    3 Top 10?

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:31 PM (omVj0)

    4 That's quite a nut.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 05:32 PM (Q4IgG)

    5 Finally started carving out the medallion I want to make out of metal. As with others I made will use non lead plumbing solder I carve it into a plaster Paris block, and in reverse

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:33 PM (fwDg9)

    6 out WD 40
    in Deep Creep

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:33 PM (mKjJV)

    7 Besides hand tools use my battery Dremel with a router stand.

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:34 PM (fwDg9)

    8 This is a funny post for me to be on but there happens to be something that I can comment on. I was out of Duct tape so went online to order some as I was too lazy to go to the hardware store. I found what was called the original Duck Tape with a picture of a duck. Is this true? if so how did Duck Tape become Duct tape or were they lying to me.
    Also did you know that duct tape can cure warts? Don't ask me why I know this fact.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:34 PM (t/2Uw)

    9 nuts

    Posted by: Ciampino - awkward to aim at May 04, 2024 05:35 PM (qfLjt)

    10 sharon, you have to share that.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:35 PM (mKjJV)

    11 I finished my Algiers Point painting. If interested it's posted on my site Stuppleart.com under landscapes.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:36 PM (inGXk)

    12 The tool I had that saved the day was a coil of rubber-coated wire.

    ON Thanksgiving around '02 I was driving Miss Linda and her mother out to the suburbs for dinner, in a heavy, pouring rain. Suddenly the wiper blade on my side came off -- and we were in fairly thick Interstate traffic. I could barely see and was afraid the wiper arm would scratch the glass. No auto stores open, either.

    I got off the highway and pulled under a gas station overhang. The blade ('80s Mercedes engineering!) had fallen into the trough at the bottom of the windshield. I fished out a coil of wire from my trunk toolbox, snipped some off with a cutter (okay, it's part of the "saved the day" story), and wired the blade in place on the arm well enough that the blade would keep the glass clear.

    The next day I bought a new set of blades. But the tools in the trunk really saved us.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:37 PM (omVj0)

    13 That firearms tools picture doesn't have duct tape nor a hot iron. Someone is slipping!

    Posted by: Ciampino - aim to please at May 04, 2024 05:37 PM (qfLjt)

    14 * looks over at the Desert Gulch painting with pleasure*

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:38 PM (mKjJV)

    15 I have watched videos of that guy who buys pallets of returned stuff. Sometimes he gets some decent stuff but usually it's junk that he over values in his assessment.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2024 05:38 PM (QNSds)

    16 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:34 PM (t/2Uw

    The tape was originally to use on Duct work as far as I know.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:39 PM (MNhXM)

    17 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:34 PM (t/2Uw

    😀

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:40 PM (MNhXM)

    18 I finished my Algiers Point painting. If interested it's posted on my site Stuppleart.com under landscapes.
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024


    ***
    A beautiful job, up to and including the ferry and the tanker! I've known the area well for many years. There used to be a fascinating restaurant built out over the water just past the point where the levee curves around the brick condo building. Destroyed in Katrina, I think it was.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:41 PM (omVj0)

    19 Duct tape is the most important innovation in tools since the hammer.

    Fight me.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 05:42 PM (Q4IgG)

    20 Sorry Sharon that was a happy face for Ben Had but you can keep it . 😀

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:42 PM (MNhXM)

    21 Watched 4 videos now on American military helmets, I have my issued helmet and thinking of stripping it down and repainting it

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:42 PM (fwDg9)

    22 The Home Improvement clip was funny.

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 05:43 PM (a5Jsm)

    23 Okay, so warts are actually the result of a virus. By sealing off the area with duct tape, you deprive the virus of oxygen and it dies.
    Not sure how reliable my source is because "internet".

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:43 PM (t/2Uw)

    24 I found that good results come from good tools. The nippers I use to trim feet are expensive but they make the job easier.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:43 PM (mKjJV)

    25 The tape was originally to use on Duct work as far as I know.
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024


    ***
    And people simply began to elide the final "t" into the initial "t" of "tape," in standard lazy human fashion.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:43 PM (omVj0)

    26 8 I found what was called the original Duck Tape with a picture of a duck. Is this true? if so how did Duck Tape become Duct tape or were they lying to me.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:34 PM
    ***
    Thanks Sharon. A company named Manco in Ohio started the brand. The "duck" branding goes back to 1980 and was a way to distinguish the company's duct tape from others. It also was an attempt to make duct tape more friendly for retail. It worked. Now you can buy all kinds of variations beyond the traditional silver - including camo tape.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 05:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

    27
    The large-scale sculpture was installed in a Enkoping round-about as a nod to its history.

    The wrench comes out of the ground and it stands there.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 05:44 PM (63Dwl)

    28 Tools. I have this theory if you need it once you'll need it again so buy it.

    This has been relatively accurate.

    Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2024 05:45 PM (IFNME)

    29 EOD Breacher bar... Flat bar, 2 beveled edges. Not sharp but works as a prybar, hammer, digging tool, and all-around "persuasion" implement. Countycomm.com. Also the 'best' tools I have I got hand-me-down from my Dad, Grandpa, and Father-in-Law.

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 05:46 PM (ScW81)

    30 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:41 PM (omVj0)

    I was watching an episode of Aerial America on Louisiana when they showed Algiers Point . I was able to pull up the episode on the intertubes and screen capture this scene.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:46 PM (MNhXM)

    31 My dad was a master carpenter, diesel mechanic and a very handy man. I still have his old tools because he grew up during the Great Depression and he never threw anything away. I had to superglue his weed eater after almost every use. I waited until he died to buy a new one because I didn't want to drag the extension cord around.

    Posted by: huerfano at May 04, 2024 05:47 PM (VGOMa)

    32 The best tools are hand me downs...They knew how to make them to last back in the day....

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 05:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

    33 I have tools coming out my ears, some need some repair and should fix them

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:47 PM (fwDg9)

    34 It was duct tape but duck is just an easier word to say.

    Incidentally, the MythBusters guy, Adam Savage, says he hates duck tape and only uses gaffer tape. Looked up the prices online and is he kidding? Anyone know if he is right or just has too much money?

    Posted by: Fozzy at May 04, 2024 05:48 PM (/Jyns)

    35 My Dad's supervisor at Coors many-many moons ago had a tree made of adjustable wrenches confiscated and welded together.

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 05:48 PM (ScW81)

    36 When I was in the Army they saw fit to take bomb disposal units and equip them as if they were FIVE bomb disposal units. At least when it came to tools.

    I really did have the ultimate set of tools.

    Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2024 05:49 PM (IFNME)

    37 11 ... " finished my Algiers Point painting. If interested it's posted on my site Stuppleart.com under landscapes."

    Hi Polynikes,
    Just looked at the painting and it is fabulous. I like the realistic colors and the level of detail is stunning. I've never been there but you made it feel real and familiar. If this was done for someone specific, they should be thrilled.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 05:49 PM (zudum)

    38 23 Okay, so warts are actually the result of a virus. By sealing off the area with duct tape, you deprive the virus of oxygen and it dies.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:43 PM
    ***
    I didn't think to ask about stories of medical care delivered with tools from the garage or workshop. Human bodging and repair?

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 05:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

    39 Do they still teach "shop" in middle school? Just seems the younger ones I know are more familiar with Amazon than working with their hands....

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 05:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

    40 I have my Dad’s tool box and tools when he worked for Lockheed repairing Cobra gunships. I have no idea what some of the tools are used for.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:50 PM (MNhXM)

    41 36

    Well, that certainly explains alot....

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 05:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

    42 My late husband was a handyman extroadinaire. He could pretty much fix anything from computers to cars to the kitchen sink.
    When I moved I sold everything in the garage.
    When I unpacked, I realizedI didn;t have the most basic tools. Not a hammer, screwdriver, no duct tape! I had to head to the Harware store and try and figure out which hammer to buy, which type of screw driver. What I ever needed was always at hand and besides I never really had to do anything myself. it was a fair tradeoff because I can really cook.
    I now have a basic set of tools and since meeting members of the Horde in person, have even acquired a set of tools for my guns.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:50 PM (t/2Uw)

    43 11 I finished my Algiers Point painting. If interested it's posted on my site Stuppleart.com under landscapes.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:36 PM
    ***
    Congrats. Very nice! You've got a lot of good stuff posted.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 05:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

    44 I've mentioned it on other threads but will talk about it here. Just My Typewriter has a nic You Tube channel on repairing and using typewriters. Her dad is a mechanic and helped her learn basic repairs. She reminds me a bit of Shoe On Head for some reason. Totally her fault I have another typewriter today. Mine are from the 50s so I am trying some newer stuff. Will clean up and donate anything I don't like.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 05:53 PM (yeEu9)

    45 42
    I now have a basic set of tools and since meeting members of the Horde in person, have even acquired a set of tools for my guns.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:50 PM (t/2Uw)
    ----
    Those tools for your guns must be sitting there unused since your canoe accident?

    Posted by: Ciampino - aim too please at May 04, 2024 05:53 PM (qfLjt)

    46 35 My Dad's supervisor at Coors many-many moons ago had a tree made of adjustable wrenches confiscated and welded together.

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 05:48 PM
    ***
    "Confiscated?" Were there "out of spec" wrenches that a wrench inspector spotted and seized? or just wrenches liberated from toolboxes for the cause of the tree.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 05:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

    47 Picking up things the other day I counted 10 different hammers.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:55 PM (mKjJV)

    48 Those tools for your guns must be sitting there unused since your canoe accident?

    Posted by: Ciampino - aim too please

    Why yes, that is true. Also I know Blaster.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:56 PM (t/2Uw)

    49 Top pic reminds me, at the opening of Modern Marvels, they show (in two ways) the misuse of a Crescent wrench. Bugs me every time that I see it. Emblematic of creative types who do not understand their topic. The scene only lasts for the opening, a second or two:
    https://tinyurl.com/2s4fzxnx

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 05:56 PM (XeU6L)

    50 Favorite tool was John Deere PTO. More of a tool enabler but my dad being Tommy Tool Time we had a bunch of PTO tools. The hands down best was the ginormous saw that was used for cutting trees into log size pieces that could be split for firewood.

    It was straight out of a Freddy Kruger horror movie. It's amazing either of us made it through with all digits but boy howdy was that thing fun.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 05:56 PM (LkLld)

    51 Now you can buy all kinds of variations beyond the traditional silver - including camo tape.
    ----------

    Yes! Hdepot has a whole assortment of designer duct tape, LOL.

    Also: electrical tape is available in a whole rainbow of colors.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:56 PM (njWTi)

    52 There's a FB group called The Dull Mens' Club. (It's co-ed and more entertaining than the women's group). Someone is always asking about an odd tool they found and they usually get an answer.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 05:56 PM (yeEu9)

    53 Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 05:49 PM (zudum)

    Thanks JTB. It is for someone with New Orleans connections and they left it up to me to come up with something New Orleans related. They seem to be happy with the finished product ( still needs to be varnished) . It will hang in his office.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:57 PM (MNhXM)

    54 Picking up things the other day I counted 10 different hammers.

    Posted by: Ben Had

    See, this is what I mean. You should have seen me in the Hardware store trying to figure out what to buy.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 05:57 PM (t/2Uw)

    55 31 My dad was a master carpenter, diesel mechanic and a very handy man. I still have his old tools because he grew up during the Great Depression and he never threw anything away. I had to superglue his weed eater after almost every use. I waited until he died to buy a new one because I didn't want to drag the extension cord around.

    Posted by: huerfano at May 04, 2024 05:47 PM
    ***
    Superglue has extended the life many tools.

    Thanks for sharing. Glad you still have your dad's old tools.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 05:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

    56 Ben Had, we only have 5 hammers, including one for German nailing. Take a stump, each person gets a nail, hit the nail with pointed end of hammer, if you miss - down a shot of whiskey.
    This could be fun at Corsicana....

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 05:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

    57 I imagine a horse whip will be the most important tool today.

    IYKWIM

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 05:57 PM (Q4IgG)

    58 My stepson put together a tool kit for me out of the tools on the old place. I just need to find it. I have to finish putting the Mantis together.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 05:58 PM (yeEu9)

    59 My favorite tool is a Klein Tool, Co. 2006 Crimper, 6 AWG to 4/0 AWG 25D147. It is a righteousness tool that leaves its unmistakable mark on every terminal connector it meets.

    My newest tool is a Bosch JS470E 7.0A Jigsaw. Haven't used it yet, but it looks like it will do the job.

    Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2024 05:59 PM (rj6Yv)

    60 A small mirror on a hinge at the end of an extending rod. So cool, I bought it. Finally used it this year to view the crevices of the washer lid thst I was sanding and repainting.

    My hobby ATM is getting things done before it rains. Seems to be happening a lot this week.

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 05:59 PM (bLaz5)

    61 Grateful, whiskey or tequila?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:01 PM (mKjJV)

    62 Trex, adjustable wrenches were not allowed. Too many rounded and f'd-up fasteners and fittings. My Dad still has a hard time bringing out the 'Cresent'.

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 06:01 PM (ScW81)

    63 > Grateful, whiskey or tequila?
    _______

    Yes

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 06:02 PM (Q4IgG)

    64 When I moved into the condo, I bought several pieces of furniture that came disassembled with one tiny tool, an Allen wrench. I was able to put them together myself! A proud moment! Had to hire someone to put together the dining room table only because it took two people to hold pieces in place.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 06:02 PM (t/2Uw)

    65 Ben Had, actually schnapps, as it was in Germany. But I did introduce them to Jack Daniels!

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 06:02 PM (IQ6Gq)

    66 I have a sweet-ass torque wrench
    has its own case and everything

    also a sweet-ass Craftsman socket set, 3 different drive sizes
    has its own case and everything

    also have an ancient pair of tin snips

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 06:03 PM (/7KEl)

    67 I love hand tools for woodworking, the older the better. Wooden body planes, draw knives, gimlets, brace and bit, good chisels, etc. It is partly the appeal of well-made, time tested tools that work with human muscles. It's partly enjoying technology from the past that still works. (Same with manual typewriters.) It's partly because I actually enjoy maintaining the tools.

    In one case it's a family connection. We have the handsaw that Mrs. JTB's dad used to build the house she grew up in. It shows its use and age but still works great.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 06:03 PM (zudum)

    68 Magnet on the end of a telescoping rod. Fishes out the nut or bolt you dropped into the depths of engine compartment or thru a grate.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:03 PM (njWTi)

    69 and I have a couple different spanners

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 06:04 PM (/7KEl)

    70 ***
    I didn't think to ask about stories of medical care delivered with tools from the garage or workshop. Human bodging and repair?
    Posted by: TRex
    -------
    Smashed thumb. Thumbnail black with blood. Doc reaches into a drawer, pulls out Bernz-o-matic torch, straightens a paper clip, heats it red with torch, pokes it through the center of the nail, releasing the blood.

    Country Doc.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:05 PM (XeU6L)

    71 I have furniture assembly burn out still have two small bookcases to assemble, that use and allen wrench.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 06:05 PM (yeEu9)

    72 Love old tools, have a couple of yard/carpentry tools that may go back to my great grandfather, early 19-teens and twenties. Nice stuff to hold and use.

    Posted by: From about that Time at May 04, 2024 06:06 PM (4780s)

    73 Smashed thumb. Thumbnail black with blood. Doc reaches into a drawer, pulls out Bernz-o-matic torch, straightens a paper clip, heats it red with torch, pokes it through the center of the nail, releasing the blood.

    --------

    YEEEOWCH!!!!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:06 PM (njWTi)

    74 44 Just My Typewriter has a nic You Tube channel on repairing and using typewriters. Her dad is a mechanic and helped her learn basic repairs.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 05:53 PM
    ***
    For some reason, typewriters speak to people. Nostalgia, sound, mechanics, etc. Of course, there is also the typewriter symphony composed by Leroy Anderson:

    https://youtu.be/akwfqjtBn7Y?feature=shared

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

    75 The tool I have the hardest time using is the the one that spreads the those washers that go on some lawnmower tires. The one that have the kinda teardrop ends with the holes in them that you have to spread to get off.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:08 PM (mKjJV)

    76 and one spanner in particular, the one I call 'the Judge', suitable as a murder weapon

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 06:08 PM (/7KEl)

    77
    YEEEOWCH!!!!
    Posted by: JQ
    --------

    Actually, no pain at all...just the odor of burnt nail.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:08 PM (XeU6L)

    78 62 Trex, adjustable wrenches were not allowed. Too many rounded and f'd-up fasteners and fittings. My Dad still has a hard time bringing out the 'Cresent'.

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 06:01 PM
    ***
    Thank you!! I've learned something today.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

    79 I've made up all of the custom cables that I need for the truck camping project. The final challenge is building the furniture: bed platform and the electrical bay.

    Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2024 06:08 PM (rj6Yv)

    80 Smashed thumb. Thumbnail black with blood. Doc reaches into a drawer, pulls out Bernz-o-matic torch, straightens a paper clip, heats it red with torch, pokes it through the center of the nail, releasing the blood.
    *************
    You needed whiskey before that intervention.....

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 06:09 PM (IQ6Gq)

    81 The tool I have the hardest time using is the the one that spreads the those washers that go on some lawnmower tires. The one that have the kinda teardrop ends with the holes in them that you have to spread to get off.
    Posted by: Ben Had
    -------

    C-clips? There's a tool for that...

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:09 PM (XeU6L)

    82 I consider myself a redneck carpenter because I've constructed and repaired many a thing using only a hammer, handsaw and nails. I once made a tall narrow bookshelf that I really liked until I saw almost the exact style at IKEA's that was 1/3 cheaper than the cost of the materials for mine.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:09 PM (inGXk)

    83 JQ, YES. I have needed that one than once.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:09 PM (mKjJV)

    84 A crescent wrench is a tool of last resort I have found out over the years

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2024 06:11 PM (QXQ4l)

    85 Mike Hammer, yes there is. Sorry, I don't know what the proper name for it is but I have one.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:11 PM (mKjJV)

    86 The one that have the kinda teardrop ends with the holes in them that you have to spread to get off.
    Posted by: Ben Had
    -----

    Those are called 'external snap rings' and yeah, the snap ring pliers slip out at the least convenient moments.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:11 PM (njWTi)

    87 60 A small mirror on a hinge at the end of an extending rod.
    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 05:59 PM

    68 Magnet on the end of a telescoping rod.
    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:03 PM
    ***
    Outstanding suggestions - similar but different. Gold star to both of you.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

    88 I don't use a lot of my woodworking hand tools any more because of the physical demands. Fortunately, We have a niece and nephew who like traditional woodworking so they have homes to go to.

    But their legacy lives on. My interest in such tools led to the current hobby of whittling and carving. Small projects I can do sitting down.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 06:11 PM (zudum)

    89 I like the mechanics of them. And you can't really multitask on a typewriter. I really like her ckeaning video and there's an interesting one on typefaces. And, until you get into the daisy wheel ones, typewriters are unique. Even one from the same era and style will have a variation in how the page looks.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 06:12 PM (yeEu9)

    90 Just got delivery of a new very large non stick frying pan from Amazon. I looked at the lid and saw that something was definitely amiss. The handle was on the underside. Luckily it wasn't riveted on so I got out my handy dandy interchangeable head screwdriver, removed it and screwed it on the topside. So other than getting a pedicure and a manicure and spending almost $200 at the grocery store that's been my day.

    Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2024 06:12 PM (oaGWv)

    91 81
    C-clips? There's a tool for that...

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:09 PM (XeU6L)
    ----
    Particularly useful for piston rings.

    Posted by: Ciampino - aim too please at May 04, 2024 06:13 PM (qfLjt)

    92 Back in the day, I spent a lot of time in nuclear plant tool rooms. The size of some of the slug wrenches (used during outages) is amazing. So big that they didn't store them inside the tool rooms, they have to be mounted in the hallways.

    Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2024 06:14 PM (rj6Yv)

    93 Particularly useful for piston rings.
    Posted by: Ciampino
    ------

    I am happy to say that for years I have had a reversable tool. Converts for internal or external.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:15 PM (XeU6L)

    94 I have a tool that has a handle like a pair of pliers that slips over a nut and you squeeze the handle to make the perfect fit to loosen or tighten.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:17 PM (inGXk)

    95 PB Blaster>>>WD-40

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 06:17 PM (i7KoL)

    96 C-clip pliers also useful in removing the metal screwbase of a broken lightbulb stuck in the socket.

    Posted by: Ciampino - aim too please me at May 04, 2024 06:18 PM (qfLjt)

    97 For some years I worked with an instrument that employed a very high magnetic field. All tools were copper, bronze, or beryllium.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:19 PM (XeU6L)

    98 I'm fascinated by Soto camping gear. They make thermastacks. It's a cup with a seal on the edge and a cap. It can fit into a second cup, which keeps the food warm. There's an insulated bag for it as well. The bigger kit has one larger pot. Their stoves are nice too. I ordered a sandwich grill from them that is not available in the US. The plates hook together but can be taken apart to use as a frying pan. I have got to tak a trip to try this stuff out, whenever I get over this cold.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 06:20 PM (yeEu9)

    99 92 Back in the day, I spent a lot of time in nuclear plant tool rooms. The size of some of the slug wrenches (used during outages) is amazing. So big that they didn't store them inside the tool rooms, they have to be mounted in the hallways.

    Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2024 06:14 PM
    ***
    I imagine that is the case for large equipment - railroad engines, large dump trucks, etc. Big nuts require big wrenches. I'll bet that some people collect nothing but oversized tools.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

    100 I have hand me down tools from dad, grandfather and FiL,
    I do appreciate the use of them when using

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:20 PM (fwDg9)

    101 Why a duck tape?
    Why a no chicken tape?

    Posted by: Chico Marx at May 04, 2024 06:21 PM (bo7UB)

    102 C-clips? There's a tool for that...

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:09 PM (XeU6L)
    ----
    Particularly useful for piston rings.
    Posted by: Ciampino

    Little is more satisfying than finding that C-clip that went flying because you were improvising. I would be lying if I said that's only happened to me once. I have a set of C-clip pliers now.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 06:22 PM (i7KoL)

    103
    I think my hammers are pretty much retired. I mainly use a power torque adjustable screwdriver anymore and expensive screws.

    Pluses: Can assemble and then un-assemble stuff with ease
    Minuses: Expensive screws

    I had a Dr once who looked at the calluses on my hands and told me to ease up on hammering or wear gloves. I gotta different Dr.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 06:22 PM (RKVpM)

    104 We used bronze & brass tools in the ammo loading areas.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:22 PM (njWTi)

    105 We used bronze & brass tools in the ammo loading areas.
    Posted by: JQ
    -----------

    Silk slippers?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:23 PM (XeU6L)

    106 Why a duck tape?
    Why a no chicken tape?
    ---

    Neither.
    Gorilla tape is best!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:23 PM (njWTi)

    107 101 Why a duck tape?
    Why a no chicken tape?

    Posted by: Chico Marx at May 04, 2024 06:21 PM (bo7UB)
    ----
    Silly, chicken tape will more often refuse to stick. Too dangerous.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Duct-tape for the win at May 04, 2024 06:24 PM (qfLjt)

    108 I was greatly intrigued by this video about the restoration of an antique fractal vise - not just by the restoration, but by the vise, itself, which was a rather ingenious invention for securing odd-shaped objects.

    https://tinyurl.com/3a2th7wm

    Posted by: Paco at May 04, 2024 06:24 PM (njExo)

    109 If I had a hammer
    I'd hammer in the morning
    I'd hammer in the evening
    Until 8 pm or whenever the HOA complained

    Posted by: Peter Paul & Mary at May 04, 2024 06:24 PM (bo7UB)

    110 94 I have a tool that has a handle like a pair of pliers that slips over a nut and you squeeze the handle to make the perfect fit to loosen or tighten.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:17 PM
    ***
    Channel-lock pliers?

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:25 PM (IQ6Gq)

    111 Silk slippers?
    Posted by: Mike Hammer

    Nope. Too risky.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:25 PM (njWTi)

    112 The History Guy is great. That's all I really want to say.

    Posted by: irright at May 04, 2024 06:26 PM (lUcMX)

    113 I imagine that is the case for large equipment - railroad engines, large dump trucks, etc. Big nuts require big wrenches. I'll bet that some people collect nothing but oversized tools.
    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

    I'll put it this way - nuts and bolts for a nuclear plant's steam turbines and generators are huge. And they are often coated (multiple times) with industrial paint. For them, the slug wrenches are often five to six feet in length and, I'd guess, weigh more the 1/2 ton.

    Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2024 06:26 PM (rj6Yv)

    114 hose clamp pliers

    aarrgh

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 06:26 PM (/7KEl)

    115 My interest in such tools led to the current hobby of whittling and carving. Small projects I can do sitting down.
    Posted by: JTB

    Does that hobby also include sharpening chisels and knives? That's a hobby all by itself.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * Black Guns Matter at May 04, 2024 06:26 PM (i7KoL)

    116 I forgot my combination to my locker at the gym when I was waiting for my new hip to heal up. I used two wrenches, one 7/8 and one 3/4 to pop it open. There are helpful videos on the YouBoob.

    I tried to pick the lock too by twirling the numbers and so many this way then 8 clicks that way and feel your ass up and down and blah blah blah but that didn't work.

    Smartied up and put the new lock's combo on my phone.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 06:27 PM (R/m4+)

    117 I have an old wooden toolbox that belonged to my late wife's grandfather, who was a carpenter in White Plains, NY. Old chisels, cat's paw, pry bar, squares, etc. Best thing though, is around 40 files and rasps of every size and shape. I use them all the time in my bodging on cars.

    Posted by: Air-cooled Al at May 04, 2024 06:28 PM (V5BDR)

    118 I have a tool that has a handle like a pair of pliers that slips over a nut and you squeeze the handle to make the perfect fit to loosen or tighten.

    Posted by: polynikes
    ------

    I was given a couple of those for Christmas, decades ago. Can't remember what they were called. Sears. Bob Vila did commercials for them. Robo-grip?

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:28 PM (njWTi)

    119 _
    Why a duck tape?
    Why a no chicken tape?

    Posted by: Chico Marx at May 04, 2024 06:21 PM
    _

    Chicken tape is fine until you need to cross the road. Then it gets dicey.

    Posted by: irright at May 04, 2024 06:29 PM (lUcMX)

    120 _
    Why a duck tape?
    Why a no chicken tape?

    Posted by: Chico Marx at May 04, 2024 06:21 PM
    _

    Chicken tape is fine until you need to cross the road. Then it gets dicey.

    Posted by: irright at May 04, 2024 06:29 PM (lUcMX)

    121 TRex, I’ve heard that some people collect wrenches. Do you have an example? What’s the most desirable wrench for a collector?”


    Huh.
    I first read that as wenches. Then I wondered what my collection might look like...?

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 06:29 PM (W/lyH)

    122 Power tools that have two-stroke engines are an invention of the Devil.

    First mix your fuel specifically for this engine in a 25:1 ratio (others may have some other random ratio).

    Pump a little fuel with the plastic bubble 3 times.Then jerk on a cord 37 times with the choke on.

    Then jerk the cord 29 with the choke fully open. Then jerk the cord 10 times halfway choked.

    Then choke it all the way again and jerk the cord 17 times. On the 18th jerk of the cord the engine starts. You're so tired from jerk the cord you only get half of the job done that you were using the tool for.

    Posted by: Minuteman at May 04, 2024 06:29 PM (LaNzR)

    123 108 I was greatly intrigued by this video about the restoration of an antique fractal vise - not just by the restoration, but by the vise, itself, which was a rather ingenious invention for securing odd-shaped objects.

    https://tinyurl.com/3a2th7wm

    Posted by: Paco at May 04, 2024 06:24 PM
    ***
    Gold star for posting. Endorsed. Fractal vises are amazing. Should have included that in the content.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

    124 Sorry about the double comment. Don't know what happened.

    Posted by: irright at May 04, 2024 06:30 PM (lUcMX)

    125 121 I first read that as wenches. Then I wondered what my collection might look like...?

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 06:29 PM
    ***
    I think they come armed with bacon.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:31 PM (IQ6Gq)

    126 Who's got $$ on the Derby?

    Fun fact: Secretariat ran the fastest derby in 1973. A record that stands some 50 years.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 06:31 PM (Q4IgG)

    127 I have it on good authority that Secretariat was juicing.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 06:32 PM (bo7UB)

    128 I own everything on the weird tool list except the Duplex Rabbet Plane. I have several regular Planes.
    Replacement cost on my whole tool set would push $300,000.00 and I have nowhere near enough tools.
    Next on the list is a Bridgeport Mill.
    Or one of the Tables they are planning on getting rid of at work. I just don't know where to put it. Can't beat the price though... "get it gone".

    Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2024 06:32 PM (B705c)

    129 TRex, a little MoMe lore. Weasel Woman was the first Bacon Wench.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:33 PM (mKjJV)

    130 My favorite wrenches are made by GearWrench. Very handy.

    Posted by: Ronster at May 04, 2024 06:33 PM (gH5oX)

    131 I have an extra large pair of bolt cutters in my prepper cache. It's my second pair because the Fire Department never returned the ones I lent them when they were launching rescues in front of my house last time we had a flood in Houston.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:34 PM (inGXk)

    132
    Power tools that have two-stroke engines are an invention of the Devil.

    'Stabil' is your friend. Winter storage of gasoline without it in your fuel guarantees that starting times in spring may never happen.

    Ethanol in gasoline is from the Prince of Darkness. It sucks up winter month after month, rendering the gasoline non-combustible.

    My chain saw? Set choke. Pull once. Set choke off. Pull. Roar.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 06:35 PM (RKVpM)

    133 88 I don't use a lot of my woodworking hand tools any more because of the physical demands.

    My interest in such tools led to the current hobby of whittling and carving. Small projects I can do sitting down.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 06:11 PM
    ***
    JTB - In the research for today's content, I spent a little time looking at posts from people who made their own handles. Some were trying to be faithful to history (London Pattern) and others were just looking for a fun project. Wonder if you can make handles that give you more torque and fit your hands.

    I have thoughts about whittling for a future thread. If you want to send me an email, I'll send you a preview of something you might like. (Won't spoil it for the rest of the group.)

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

    134 I was given a couple of those for Christmas, decades ago. Can't remember what they were called. Sears. Bob Vila did commercials for them. Robo-grip?
    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:28 PM (njWTi

    Seems like a good idea but I've used it exactly once.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:38 PM (inGXk)

    135 I imagine that is the case for large equipment - railroad engines, large dump trucks, etc. Big nuts require big wrenches. I'll bet that some people collect nothing but oversized tools.
    Posted by: TRex
    --------

    SMH (who I have not seen here in a while) worked with M88 (I think) recovery vehicles in the sandbox. They probably had tools that took two troops to transport.

    An ex-roomate was a helicopter repair guy in VN. He mentioned the 'Jesus Nut' which retained the main rotor on some choppers. The torque wrench was a big planetary gear driven thing. Do not recall the torques involved, but they were *high*.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM (XeU6L)

    136 I want to be able to work on my firearms without scratching the hell out of them or boogering up the screw heads. That means good gunsmithing screwdrivers, punches (especially for black powder guns), a mainspring vise, and so forth. These tools are not cheap but worth every penny when you need them. And a lot cheaper than going to a gunsmith.

    Along with the tools is the information to use them. I have several books with detailed schematics of the various guns I might need to work on.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM (zudum)

    137 117 I have an old wooden toolbox that belonged to my late wife's grandfather, who was a carpenter in White Plains, NY. Old chisels, cat's paw, pry bar, squares, etc. Best thing though, is around 40 files and rasps of every size and shape. I use them all the time in my bodging on cars.

    Posted by: Air-cooled Al at May 04, 2024 06:28 PM
    ***
    Wow. Rasps and files are underappreciated in the tool world.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

    138 When I worked in the oilfield, we spent a lot of time in the shop at night repairing gear, etc. Some of the funniest shit I ever saw happened there - one night we had some 4 inch stainless connection that had to come apart, and the threads were galled. So we got the big vice, and a 36" pipe wrench, and the guy pulling on that wrench said to another "take that piece of pipe and hit this wrench, that will jar it loose."
    So guy 2 gets a length of pipe, swings it toward the wrench like he's batting in the MLB - and hits guy 1 on *every* knuckle on both hands. He yelped, dropped to the floor, and didn't say anything for a bit. Then he just looked at his hands, looked up at guy 2, and calmly said "You know I'm going to kill you as soon as the casts come off."

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM (R4z5M)

    139 Power tools that have two-stroke engines are an invention of the Devil.

    Treat your two stroke engine a little different than your car or lawn mower. Regular gas has been a slow poison to those engines ever since they added ethanol to it. I've been playing with chainsaws for close to 50 years. I learned the hard way. Use premium, ethanol free. The other killer is cold reving them. Both of those do a number on the rings and cylinder walls.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * Black Guns Matter at May 04, 2024 06:40 PM (i7KoL)

    140 My chain saw? Set choke. Pull once. Set choke off. Pull. Roar.
    Posted by: Divide by Zero
    ----------

    It is not a 45 year-old McColluch, is it?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:40 PM (XeU6L)

    141 My story of tools would take a week. Guitar and violin tools? Contractor tools? Special Harley tools? Car tools? Plumbing tools? Electrical tools? Doubles, triples, etc. My tools have frigging tools. I can't think of how many tools I bought just because they were cool looking, and then when I found a use for them I bought better versions. All I can do is think about my somewhat recent favs. For the harleys the more recent would be the milwaukee electric ratchet, which I call "the zoomer". There are a shit ton of 1/4-20 allen head screws I have to deal with on a harley engine. Air tools are a no no, too aggressive and heavy. The milwaukee spins them out at a reasonable speed and makes things soooo much faster. I liked it so much I bought a 2nd one to leave at one of the shops I work out of so I have one there too and keep one at home in my main box. Not being satisfied there I bought a 3rd one, but a fuel version, which has more torque, geared a little more towards automotive. Its called "the super zoomer".

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 06:40 PM (VwHCD)

    142 Seems like a good idea but I've used it exactly once.
    Posted by: polynikes
    -------

    Yep. They're for people what don't own many tools.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 06:41 PM (njWTi)

    143 Bahco still makes adjustable wrenches. Expensive but worth it. They go very wide in the mouth for a given length of wrench handle, so valuable in my travel box, replacing 2 wrenches and saving weight. Milled ones are available where a thinner wrench is desired. We get them on Amazon of course.

    Also Derby 150 is about to go off.

    Posted by: Scottst at May 04, 2024 06:41 PM (ojBxe)

    144 I use a 14 in rasp for the final leveling of a hoof. I also use that same size for doing a lot of finish work on the cat trees I make.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:42 PM (mKjJV)

    145 I found a nice quality 1/4" ratchet handle, 6" extension, and 13 MM socket the other day on the road while riding my bike. I have probably found 20 wrenches, sockets, ratchet handles roadside while biking over the last 15 years. Also found a plastic holder completely full of about 75 bits to fit screw guns and drills. Once a nice collection of drill bits, too.

    Posted by: Your Loss, My Gain at May 04, 2024 06:42 PM (V5BDR)

    146 Anything can be collected. Including wrenches.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 06:43 PM (e0dkU)

    147 We used to make the pilgrimage to Churchill Downs every year back in the day. What a party.

    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 04, 2024 06:43 PM (mH6SG)

    148 115 ... "Does that hobby also include sharpening chisels and knives? That's a hobby all by itself."

    Definitely. It took some time to assemble the right stones and develop the 'touch' but it was worth it. Getting clean, smooth cuts in the wood is extra satisfying (and safer) when I'm responsible for creating or maintaining the edge.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 06:43 PM (zudum)

    149 I have probably found 20 wrenches, sockets, ratchet handles roadside while biking over the last 15 years.
    -----

    If one of them is as Amp ratcheting crimp tool, it's mine.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:44 PM (XeU6L)

    150 Also Derby 150 is about to go off.
    Posted by: Scottst at May 04, 2024 06:41 PM (ojBxe)

    Yep, they introduced the midgets.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 06:44 PM (e0dkU)

    151 Watching "High Plains Drifter."

    Bad guys just got out of jail. Walking across the desert.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 06:45 PM (7KluB)

    152 135 An ex-roomate was a helicopter repair guy in VN. He mentioned the 'Jesus Nut' which retained the main rotor on some choppers. The torque wrench was a big planetary gear driven thing. Do not recall the torques involved, but they were *high*.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM
    ***
    "Jesus nut" - if it fails mid-flight, the only thing left is to pray to Jesus.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

    153 Beserker I was waiting for your tool input. Just what I expected 😀

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:45 PM (inGXk)

    154 A health crisis has emerged for Democrat officials in Long Beach, California, following a tuberculosis outbreak linked to a hotel housing ‘homeless’ people.

    Them Here
    There Here

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:45 PM (ENQN6)

    155
    It is not a 45 year-old McColluch, is it?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:40 PM


    Nah. A 'bout two year old 'Craftsman'. Solid little machine.

    But I learned my lesson about ethanol the hard way. Every fall the 'Stabil' comes out. During the summer when I use more gas I don't bother - it gets used quickly enough. But winter it's just becomes more and more useless every day until spring arrives when it is now completely worthless.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 06:46 PM (RKVpM)

    156 I find a have a plethora of allen wrenches, I have no idea why I have so many.

    I suspect many of us have heard of Klein tools.
    I found one that I had to have: https://is.gd/RgDNB3
    (link to kleintools.com).

    The best thing about the tool is the identification symbol that is on the top of the handle on all klein tools. This one is a circle made up of connected Vees. A bottle cap.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 06:46 PM (LGS1q)

    157 Haven't seen a McCullogh chainsaw in a long time.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 06:46 PM (R4t5M)

    158 152 135 An ex-roomate was a helicopter repair guy in VN. He mentioned the 'Jesus Nut' which retained the main rotor on some choppers. The torque wrench was a big planetary gear driven thing. Do not recall the torques involved, but they were *high*.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM
    ***
    "Jesus nut" - if it fails mid-flight, the only thing left is to pray to Jesus.
    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

    Aeroplane Bernoulli's principle to create lift
    Heliocopter Beat the fuck out of the air

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:47 PM (ENQN6)

    159 I bought a pair of bolt cutters when making my outbuilding, to cut rear, think I used them once since, still hanging in the outbuilding.

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:47 PM (fwDg9)

    160 138 So guy 2 gets a length of pipe, swings it toward the wrench like he's batting in the MLB - and hits guy 1 on *every* knuckle on both hands. He yelped, dropped to the floor, and didn't say anything for a bit. Then he just looked at his hands, looked up at guy 2, and calmly said "You know I'm going to kill you as soon as the casts come off."

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 06:39 PM

    YEEEOWCH!!!!

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:48 PM (IQ6Gq)

    161 We moved my resin stuff to the basement, and I found out today that I had actually relied on the various implements in the cabinet above the kitchen sink almost as much as I did for my "resin cabinet" in the dining room.

    As for today's topic, toothpicks are an essential tool for hobbying. I have a drawer of resin tools, but nothing quite works as well as a toothpick when it comes to certain tasks.

    Posted by: pookysgirl, not paid for by the lumber industry at May 04, 2024 06:49 PM (dtlDP)

    162 bought a pair of bolt cutters when making my outbuilding, to cut rear, think I used them once since, still hanging in the outbuilding.
    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:47 PM (fwDg9)

    When the zombie apocalypse comes you'll need them to break into storage containers.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:50 PM (inGXk)

    163 I've got a set of wrenches that came with an Austin, but I've never owned an Austin. I think they came with my Grandpa's Austin Healy 3000, but they may be even older than that. They just say Austin on them.

    Posted by: xPanda at May 04, 2024 06:51 PM (R1k0b)

    164 Heh. So much for lounging in the grey boxes. Nephew bought 3 little oinkers today. One of them is mine. Apparently they made a jail break before they got them into the pen. Gotta head over for some pig rodeo.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * Black Guns Matter at May 04, 2024 06:52 PM (i7KoL)

    165 159 I bought a pair of bolt cutters when making my outbuilding, to cut rear, think I used them once since, still hanging in the outbuilding.

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:47 PM
    ***
    Those kind of tools fall squarely in the category of "rare use, but very happy to have them when needed."

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

    166 Beserker I was waiting for your tool input. Just what I expected 😀

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 06:45 PM (inGXk)

    I know, I'm a total tool horder. I always say tools is life, lol.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 06:54 PM (VwHCD)

    167 Big Duck Canvas claims that Duct tape, often called "duck tape," was originally manufactured by adding an adhesive backing to regular cotton duck.

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 06:54 PM (cOq4q)

    168 133 ... "If you want to send me an email, I'll send you a preview of something you might like."

    TRex,
    Email sent.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 06:54 PM (zudum)

    169 When the father-in-law passed all the guys got together in his garage and we picked one tool and then the next guy until they were all gone.
    My youngest picked a 4 foot monkey wrench. I doubt he'll ever use it (he is a captain in a fire department so he might at that...)

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 06:56 PM (LGS1q)

    170 A come along is a must for fence repair but they need a better release system.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:56 PM (mKjJV)

    171 if it fails mid-flight, the only thing left is to pray to Jesus.
    Posted by: TRex
    ------

    The only reference that I can find says 2000 ft-lbs.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 06:56 PM (XeU6L)

    172 Tools, Knitting Edition.

    Because they are in your hands at all time, they must be right. So there's material choice- metal, wood, bamboo, plastic or acrylic. Different yarns need different material as well.

    Do you like a round needle or a square one? (yes, they make those. They are actually easier to grip and can prevent muscle strain.)

    If you're using circular needles- two needle points joined by a length of acrylic- do you like fixed, or interchangeable points?

    And then there's sizes- from 00 to 15 or up.

    And of course you forget you already have a set of #7 bamboo double points and buy another one...

    Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 04, 2024 06:56 PM (IZjwR)

    173 169 That is a great way to distribute tools of a loved one.

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 06:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

    174 29 EOD Breacher bar... Flat bar, 2 beveled edges. Not sharp but works as a prybar, hammer, digging tool, and all-around "persuasion" implement.

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 05:46 PM
    ***
    Added to my shopping list. I'm used to more large scale landscaping-type prybars but like the look of this one. Ninja scale.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 06:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

    175 I have a sweet-ass torque wrench
    has its own case and everything
    also a sweet-ass Craftsman socket set, 3 different drive sizes
    has its own case and everything
    also have an ancient pair of tin snips
    Posted by: Don Black

    -----

    I need an inch pund torque wrench that can run down a 2" lb electrical terminal screw. Any recommendations?

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 06:58 PM (MsrgL)

    176 In the contractor tool dept, the tool that has definitely on multiple occasions saved my worthless ass is the Oscillating Multi-tool. Anybody who does anything around the house needs one. Its the single tool that defines "didn't think you needed until you needed it". I hope the inventor is sailing around in a 100foot yacht surrounded by exotic and interesting women and wipes his ass with $100 bills. I have used many sweet contractor tools of the years, but that multi tool deserves a place of honor in Valhalla.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:00 PM (VwHCD)

    177 Seems to me that the Kentucky Derby was running at about 5:30 PM or so. When did they change the post time?

    Posted by: dantesed at May 04, 2024 07:01 PM (Oy/m2)

    178 bought a pair of bolt cutters when making my outbuilding, to cut rear, think I used them once since, still hanging in the outbuilding.
    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:47 PM (fwDg9)

    When the zombie apocalypse comes you'll need them to break into storage containers.
    Posted by: polynikes

    Bolt Cutters AKA Master Key

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 07:01 PM (cOq4q)

    179 I had a Porsche 914. I wanted to replace the steering wheel with a MOMO branded one that was both thicker and smaller in diameter.

    The socket to remove it was... odd metric and not included in any kit.

    $32

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 07:01 PM (Q4IgG)

    180 170 A come along is a must for fence repair but they need a better release system.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 06:56 PM
    ***
    Winches are mandatory farm equipment. (Not to be confused with wenches.)

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

    181 One can never have too many tools. One can not have enough space for said tools.

    Posted by: xPanda at May 04, 2024 07:01 PM (R1k0b)

    182 177
    When they sold more commercial time...

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

    183 There are no power tools made any longer with 2-stroke engines.

    To your point though, the problem is always with the CARB.

    California Air Resources Board. For some reason it is held that since they pre-date the EPA they get to dictate to everybody what kind of equipment the rest of the nation and 49 states can purchase..

    The specific gas/oil mix ratio doesn’t really have anything to do with the specific equipment.

    It has everything to do with the oil itself. 2-stroke engines were admirable in lawnmowers and other hand held equipment.

    High RPM., lightweight. LawnBoy used cast magnesium decks, making them even lighter. No mandatory shut-off bars and heavy 4 stroke engines. After they put all that shit on there, they made it even more expensive because now they are all too heavy to use without having the wheels powered now too.

    Just fucking retarded what they did. The manufacturers leaned out the air fuel ratio so much the goddamned things would never start. That’s California’s contribution. That’s their baby, that’s their “invention”. Replacing what works, with what sounds good.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2024 07:02 PM (SdkQO)

    184 I have gotten to really like my electric chainsaw. I've owned gas saws in the past and my problem is that I don't use one often enough - just when a limb comes down - and the gas models were always hell to start when they'd been sitting on a shelf for 2 or 3 months. Never a problem with the electric. It's medium duty, not heavy, but that's all I need.

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 07:02 PM (R4z5M)

    185 TRex, Wenches with Winches Unite!

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:02 PM (mKjJV)

    186 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:00 PM (VwHCD)

    Under cutting a door jam when you are putting in flooring.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:03 PM (inGXk)

    187 6ft 'pinch bar'

    Looks like an iron javelin. Hex-sided, about 1.5 inch diameter. One flat end, one pointed (but not sharp) end. My understanding is that it was used to align railroad track during installation.

    I've used it, levered over a hunk of firewood, to pry up tree roots...

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 07:04 PM (njWTi)

    188 "the tool that has definitely on multiple occasions saved my worthless ass is the Oscillating Multi-tool. "

    Ive got 3 so I don't have to change blades when I need a different one.

    Posted by: xPanda at May 04, 2024 07:05 PM (R1k0b)

    189 I need an inch pund torque wrench that can run down a 2" lb electrical terminal screw. Any recommendations?
    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 06:58 PM (MsrgL)

    MAC makes a really good one. I had to buy one back in another life for doing Injectors on the newer Diesel engines. Had to be certified every year. Never once in 7 years did it need adjustment.

    Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2024 07:05 PM (B705c)

    190 I found that you can buy replacement bars for chainsaws. I have a 14in Homelite that I love but the bar developed a bur that kept the chain from turning. New bar, not having to take it to the shop was fantastic.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:06 PM (mKjJV)

    191 I have gotten to really like my electric chainsaw. I've owned gas saws in the past and my problem is that I don't use one often enough - just when a limb comes down - and the gas models were always hell to start when they'd been sitting on a shelf for 2 or 3 months. Never a problem with the electric. It's medium duty, not heavy, but that's all I need.
    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 07:02 PM (R4z5M)

    Got a Craftsman electric chainsaw/polesaw last year for $60 out the door. Use it all the time.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 07:06 PM (R4t5M)

    192 By a flared nostril.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 07:06 PM (LkLld)

    193 163 I've got a set of wrenches that came with an Austin, but I've never owned an Austin. I think they came with my Grandpa's Austin Healy 3000, but they may be even older than that. They just say Austin on them.

    Posted by: xPanda at May 04, 2024 06:51 PM
    ***
    Thanks for mentioning. Unique tool kits for unique cars. Big collector point for those trying to restore cars - want to ensure all equipment is original. Unfortunately, tool kits for high-end cars are often stolen because they're valuable in their own right.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

    194 As my days of building large projects ended, mostly due to lack of time and need, I no longer needed the cast iron table Craftsman table saw or some other power tools. I gave them to a young couple who are dear friends. It was a triple winning scenario. They got tools they needed and of better quality than they could afford. I could use them on the off chance I needed to. And they left room in the garage for other things.

    Yeah, I could have sold them but knowing they went where they would be used and appreciated was better.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 07:07 PM (zudum)

    195 173 169 That is a great way to distribute tools of a loved one.
    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 06:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

    We did that when both our parents died. No arguments, though there was some "bartering" going on later.
    I chose Mom's rolling pin, but later gave it to the baby,
    b/c he bakes.

    Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 04, 2024 07:07 PM (IZjwR)

    196 When the Ace Hardware store closed by me they had a fire sale. I got there late but I did get two folding sawhorses and the ax /12 lb sledgehammer combo. Both cost me a total of $20.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:08 PM (inGXk)

    197 6ft 'pinch bar'

    Looks like an iron javelin. Hex-sided, about 1.5 inch diameter. One flat end, one pointed (but not sharp) end. My understanding is that it was used to align railroad track during installation.

    I've used it, levered over a hunk of firewood, to pry up tree roots...

    Posted by: JQ

    Aka, a Tanker's Bar. I have one. Use the snot out of it diggin around the property on this granite hill side I live on.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 07:08 PM (MsrgL)

    198 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:00 PM (VwHCD)

    Under cutting a door jam when you are putting in flooring.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:03 PM (inGXk)

    Exactly, nothing does it as clean and accurate. Use a piece of the flooring as a thickness guide and floor looks like it grew there.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:09 PM (VwHCD)

    199 195
    I imagine your parents were smiling at the distribution!

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

    200 "the tool that has definitely on multiple occasions saved my worthless ass is the Oscillating Multi-tool. "

    Ive got 3 so I don't have to change blades when I need a different one.

    Posted by: xPanda at May 04, 2024 07:05 PM (R1k0b)

    Yup, same here. I have a corded one, a ryobi cordless, a dewalt cordless, and a milwaukee cordless. The corded one is gulaged. lol

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:12 PM (VwHCD)

    201 192
    What an awesome race...

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

    202 197 6ft 'pinch bar'

    Aka, a Tanker's Bar.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 07:08 PM
    ***
    Never heard of that name. Makes sense. Something mighty is needed to move things the size of railroad tankers.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

    203 I believe mentioned that you can make your own gas stabilizer.
    4 parts diesel fuel, 2 parts naptha (coleman fuel), 1 part Iso-HEET (absorbs the water).

    Run this through your engine 1oz/gal it will clean the engine while running and protect it while stored.
    It really does a great job on injectors and carbs.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:12 PM (LGS1q)

    204 Great thread, TRex!!!

    Too bad I must leave, I'm really enjoying the chat.

    Thanks for hosting!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 07:13 PM (njWTi)

    205 185 TRex, Wenches with Winches Unite!

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:02 PM
    ***
    With bacon!!

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

    206 I have a Rockwell multi-tool. Love it.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 07:13 PM (R4t5M)

    207 I have Dremel Multi-Max, on my 2nd one, someone liked my first more than I did. Use it almost every day

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:13 PM (fwDg9)

    208 >>What an awesome race...

    I have a love/hate relationship with horses but they are magnificent animals.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 07:14 PM (LkLld)

    209 Off dirty old panda sock

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 07:14 PM (R1k0b)

    210 UH oh, now I have to go look at multi-tools.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:15 PM (mKjJV)

    211 204 Great thread, TRex!!!
    Too bad I must leave, I'm really enjoying the chat.
    Thanks for hosting!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 07:13 PM
    ***
    Thank YOU and thanks to the horde for the chatter. Great stories. Been fun. What theme should we do for the next one?

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:16 PM (IQ6Gq)

    212 That was one helluva race. Damn.

    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 04, 2024 07:16 PM (mH6SG)

    213 208
    Jack Straw, my daddy had a boss who bought his only daughter a horse so she wouldn't be so interested in boys...of course, he shared the economics with my daddy, thus ending any hope of my owning one.

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

    214 TRex, Thank you a great thread.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:17 PM (mKjJV)

    215 UH oh, now I have to go look at multi-tools.
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:15 PM (mKjJV)

    Very handy to have.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (R4t5M)

    216 No one here uses their Sawzall to steal catalytic converters?

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (inGXk)

    217 Yes, thanks for the interesting thread, TRex. I apologize for going OT with the Derby.

    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (mH6SG)

    218 MAC makes a really good one. I had to buy one back in another life for doing Injectors on the newer Diesel engines. Had to be certified every year. Never once in 7 years did it need adjustment.

    Posted by: Reforger

    Thank You!

    I just chacked them, they had two, that were out of stock. Here's what I've been looking at, but unwilling to drop the $.

    https://www.mcmaster.com/product/5716A21

    I've been giving it a single pinky finger torque so far when I need to adjust it.

    It's a lock nut, on a very tiny reostat.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (MsrgL)

    219
    That was one helluva race. Damn.
    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 04, 2024 07:16 PM (mH6SG)

    _________

    Lots of banging down the stretch between Sierra Leone and Forever Young.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (MoZTd)

    220 One of the best tools in my kit is a 1" wood chisel. I use it to scrape paint, especially tough paint in tight areas, and it's my tool of choice for puttying around window glass. Not to mention that the hard plastic handle serves as a hand hammer on occasion. I even chisel wood with it from time to time. Just a really well-made, useful tool.

    Posted by: Nemo at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (S6ArX)

    221 214 TRex, Thank you a great thread.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:17 PM
    ***
    Thank you for being here! Be well.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

    222 217 Yes, thanks for the interesting thread, TRex. I apologize for going OT with the Derby.

    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 04, 2024 07:19 PM
    ***
    Approved. Horses are universal. Glad you could join the thread.

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

    223 And of course you forget you already have a set of #7 bamboo double points and buy another one...

    Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at May 04, 2024 06:56 PM (IZjwR)

    You've been in my house, haven't you?

    Posted by: pookysgirl, working on a scarf for Pookette at May 04, 2024 07:21 PM (dtlDP)

    224 Addi needles, fixed points. 8" DPNs. I like their flex dpns and use those for socks. Oh, and lace points. I have some old straight needles. I am not a big fan of circulars as they can make my wrists hurt. But you use the tool for the project.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 07:22 PM (yeEu9)

    225 Lots of tools used in the care of horses and horse related equipment.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:23 PM (inGXk)

    226 "Duct tape is the most important innovation in tools since the hammer."

    The other day, I was working on the family dryer. The duct had come loose. I clamped it back into place, tightened the nut on the clamp a bit, then, just to be sure, threw some duct tape around the joint, to seal it well. Then I realized that this was the first time, ever, that I had used duct tape to tape a duct. Eureka!

    Posted by: Nemo at May 04, 2024 07:23 PM (S6ArX)

    227 Besides Multi-Max oscillating tool next favorite is 4in angle grinder, use it way more than Sawzall that I carry every day

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:23 PM (fwDg9)

    228 226 Then I realized that this was the first time, ever, that I had used duct tape to tape a duct. Eureka!

    Posted by: Nemo at May 04, 2024 07:23 PM
    ***
    Ha!!

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:25 PM (IQ6Gq)

    229
    Lots of tools used in the care of horses and horse related equipment.
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:23 PM (inGXk)

    _________

    I sometimes watch farrier videos. I doubt the tools have changed much in 200 years.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 07:25 PM (MoZTd)

    230 >>Jack Straw, my daddy had a boss who bought his only daughter a horse so she wouldn't be so interested in boys...of course, he shared the economics with my daddy, thus ending any hope of my owning one

    My dad had a wife he adored who loved horses so he bought her a horse farm. Of course this meant he got to buy more tools than the average Home Depot so everyone won other than the slave laborer who just wanted to go sailing.

    You got off easy. Owning horses is not a hobby, it's a way of life.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 07:26 PM (LkLld)

    231
    Duct tape ages rapidly, and crumbles. It's not really suitable for sealing ducts, or for any other work that needs to last.

    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 04, 2024 07:27 PM (uz6ub)

    232 You got off easy. Owning horses is not a hobby, it's a way of life.
    *******
    Adult me: Fact
    Teenage me: Not fair!

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

    233 With all this talk of good tools, crummy ones have their place for crummy jobs. I have a couple of cheap, beat up chisels good for scraping paint or other dirty jobs. Same with an old hammer. Well worth the two bits they cost at a garage sale.

    Posted by: JTB at May 04, 2024 07:28 PM (zudum)

    234 Addi needles, fixed points. 8" DPNs. I like their flex dpns and use those for socks. Oh, and lace points. I have some old straight needles. I am not a big fan of circulars as they can make my wrists hurt. But you use the tool for the project.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 07:22 PM (yeEu9)

    I love my Addi Turbo Size 8 needles! I have made so many scarves on those, including the one I'm working on now. My wrists don't hurt when I knit too much, it's usually the second joints on my fingers.

    Posted by: pookysgirl, working on a scarf for Pookette at May 04, 2024 07:28 PM (dtlDP)

    235 Hobby sorta
    Got my new lightweight doggeh clippers - half off because this model is being discontinued

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 07:29 PM (n/1xr)

    236 Can't say much about harley tools. They are always needed and always save your ass because most things are impossible without them. There is one tool though which was a surprise and moved what was the job from hell into the no problem zone. Its a stinking little devise that jacks the pushrod tubes up so you can adjust the pushrods without having to keep upward tension on the tubes while manipulating 2 wrenches. I damn near cried when I saw that tool. I hope that inventor is on the boat with multi-tool dude.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:29 PM (VwHCD)

    237 Duct tape ages rapidly, and crumbles. It's not really suitable for sealing ducts, or for any other work that needs to last.
    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 04, 2024 07:27 PM (uz6ub)

    They make the aluminum tape for duct work now. I keep a few roles around because it's useful for a lot of other things though not as versatile as duct tape.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:29 PM (inGXk)

    238 60 years of horses everyday does a lifetime make.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:30 PM (mKjJV)

    239 Duct tape doesn't last as long as I like to keep homes.
    When it finally gives up you can't figure out where the lint is coming from because you don't remember you used duct tape initially. DAMHIK

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:30 PM (LGS1q)

    240 Mystic Dan wins the Kentucky Derby by a nose!

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 04, 2024 07:31 PM (9yWhg)

    241 Ah, tankers bar aka rock bar... My FIL cut concrete and I would help on occasion. Attempting to pull the slabs we just cut with forklift and him with a rock bar... Something shifted and his thumb ended up between the fork boom and rock bar. Split like a grape. No emergency room though, just whiskey and butterfly bandages. **shudder**

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 07:31 PM (ScW81)

    242 Duct tape ages rapidly, and crumbles. It's not really suitable for sealing ducts, or for any other work that needs to last.
    Posted by: Semi-Literate

    You beat me to it!

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:32 PM (LGS1q)

    243
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:29 PM (inGXk)

    -----

    Aluminum tape is what I use.

    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 04, 2024 07:33 PM (uz6ub)

    244 Great Derby, other than Martha Stewart announcing riders up in the State of Connecticut!

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

    245 241 Something shifted and his thumb ended up between the fork boom and rock bar. Split like a grape. No emergency room though, just whiskey and butterfly bandages. **shudder**

    Posted by: tRusty Hudson at May 04, 2024 07:31 PM
    ***
    YEEEOWCH!!!!

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

    246 I watch way to many horse and cow hoof videos, except a angle grinder all hasn't changed in hundreds of years

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:36 PM (fwDg9)

    247 Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:29 PM (inGXk)
    ----
    Aluminum tape
    Posted by: Semi-Literate

    Yup, just last week after I cleaned the lint up (actually this was a kludge by the previous owners. It'll last now with the amount of Al tape I used.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:36 PM (LGS1q)

    248 I also bought a role of Flex seal waterproof tape just in case. Yeah they got me.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:36 PM (inGXk)

    249 YEEEOWCH!!!!
    Posted by: TRex

    I'll bet there were other words used.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:36 PM (LGS1q)

    250 250!

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 07:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

    251 That's quite a nut.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 05:32 PM

    *it's like I don't even know you people*

    That's what she said!!!

    Posted by: Peter North at May 04, 2024 07:37 PM (Wnv9h)

    252 244 I could’ve done without Martha Stewart at the Deby.

    I’m just glad Kelce didn’t bring his bit of stuff.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 04, 2024 07:37 PM (9yWhg)

    253 Thanks for the fun thread TRex.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:37 PM (LGS1q)

    254 253 Thanks for the fun thread TRex.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:37 PM
    ***
    Thank you! Y'all come back now, ya hear?

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

    255 Tankers bars are not the same a digging bars. A tankers bar is square, 1 1/2" x 1 1/2", about half its length and goes round to a point about 3/4 inch in diameter. For sticking into broke track shoes so 3 guys can get onto it and push/pull the track when having to "break track". The square end is a wedge that allows for incredible amounts of leverage. Very handy item. A digging bar is as described above.
    I have a JOB box full of the damn things. Along with 6 or 8 of one of my other tricks of the trade when dealing with tracked crap. The ratcheting chain binder.

    Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2024 07:38 PM (B705c)

    256 In much the same way that ferrets and other weasels were sent into chimneys and sewers to clear clogs, trained simians managed final assembly of complex air handlers. They could get in there all right, and whole crews of duct apes once dominated the industry.

    Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 04, 2024 07:39 PM (zdLoL)

    257 https://tinyurl.com/3wrhymjh
    20 Tweets from Bad Blue

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:41 PM (fwDg9)

    258 I recently bought a siphon hose that has a check valve so that you don't have to get a taste of whatever it is you're siphoning.

    https://tinyurl.com/2bakof4k

    Get the other end lower, give it a shake, and wait. I'm probably not going to be without one of those ever again.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:42 PM (YsjiM)

    259 I also bought a role of Flex seal waterproof tape just in case. Yeah they got me.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:36 PM (inGXk)

    That shit kicks ass. When I moved to the new house the first thing that happened was the toilet in the main bath sprung a tank leak. No biggie, remove the tank and do a seal kit. The problem was when I went to wash the tank out on the laundry sink it slipped and blew a hole in the corner of the sink. Mrs B is like a quartermaster. She always buys weird shit, and one of them was flex tape. I used it in the corner and its totally water tight. I'm waiting to see how long it lasts before changing the sink, but it's been 2 years and is still holding.

    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:42 PM (VwHCD)

    260 I love Flex Seal caulk, has gotten me out of emergencies often

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:42 PM (fwDg9)

    261 Hubby bought "alien tape" as seen on tv lol

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 07:43 PM (n/1xr)

    262 Tankers bars are not the same a digging bars. A tankers bar is square, 1 1/2" x 1 1/2", about half its length and goes round to a point about 3/4 inch in diameter. For sticking into broke track shoes so 3 guys can get onto it and push/pull the track when having to "break track". The square end is a wedge that allows for incredible amounts of leverage. Very handy item. A digging bar is as described above.
    I have a JOB box full of the damn things. Along with 6 or 8 of one of my other tricks of the trade when dealing with tracked crap. The ratcheting chain binder.

    Posted by: Reforger

    I have what you described, not the other thing. Picked it up while exploring the McGregor Range tank trails one ftx back in the late 80s

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 07:44 PM (MsrgL)

    263 For anyone who has used both, is Flex Seal tape significantly different than the permabond / eternabon stuff for campers and trailers?

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:44 PM (YsjiM)

    264 Get the other end lower, give it a shake, and wait. I'm probably not going to be without one of those ever again.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie

    Great tool. The opposite for bleeding brakes works real well too.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 07:45 PM (LGS1q)

    265 248 I also bought a role of Flex seal waterproof tape just in case. Yeah they got me.
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 07:36 PM

    259 That shit kicks ass.
    Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 04, 2024 07:42 PM (VwHCD)
    ***
    I told you it would work!!

    Posted by: Billy Mays at May 04, 2024 07:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

    266 Movie thread is up. Thanks all!

    Posted by: TRex at May 04, 2024 07:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

    267 My long bar is like if not exactly a tanker bar

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 07:48 PM (fwDg9)

    268 Haven't seen a McCullogh chainsaw in a long time.
    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 06:46

    I used to have when farming. I started arming when Grandpa died in 1979. So I was working w/ his equipment and old tools when I planted my first crop in 1980. I'm sure some of the tools were his father's as CC moved his family to that farm in 1920.

    It was a unique farm as the barn and buildings were built built in 1880 when some "Chicago interests" wanted to establish a horse farm and race track.

    The shop where all the tools were was in a room, in an extension from the barn that used to be the blacksmith shop. We had a paint shop, part of the extension was converted to a 2 car garage.

    This extension was where they ran the horse farm, it is on a hill overlooking the river bottom below where the racetrack was.

    But I digress, point is I have some very old tools, my grt grandfather's and possibly some left there when he bought the defunct racetrack.

    Posted by: Farmer at May 04, 2024 09:08 PM (55Qr6)

    269 This is how Brookstone ("Hard to find tools") started. Owner was a ship model builder and was always looking for tools/devices to solve building dilemmas. He decided to share his discoveries with fellow modelers. Sourced suppliers from around the world, some were mom/pop inventors. Started business in kitchen, after regular work hours. Placed one of those small ads in back of Popular Mechanics.

    Posted by: phydeaux at May 05, 2024 09:06 AM (MunRT)

    270 Crescent wrenches: when you use the knurled wheel to adjust the jaw opening it appears to be counterintuitive as to opening and closing when manipulated.
    I read that when the original US Patent from the Swedish inventor had been drawn in reverse of what was designed, but was manufactured that way because that was what the patent drawings required.

    I passed on buying a complete set of antique caulking tools for wooden ships/boats. They should have been in a museum.

    Posted by: waepnedmann: at May 05, 2024 08:39 PM (7RHDg)

    Ace of Spades Pet Thread, May 4

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    Saw this and I chuckled.

    As a male dog owner, I appreciate it very much.
    Misanthropic Humanitarian


    * * *

    Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

    Would you like a treat?

    Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.


    * * *

    Cute pets:

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    Courtesy IrishEi

    Gentle dog parenting:

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    Parrot as muse:

    Meet The PetMorons

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    Hi all. Long time lurker, first time poster. The attached picture is of our first set of German Shepherds, Strider and Sasha. They both loved giving kisses as we made our way up the steps. Unfortunately, they have both passed and we have two more, but this is probably the best picture ever of them together.

    Mrs. Raygar

    How lovely that you would send us this photo of your beautiful dogs. So sorry that they are gone, though memories of them clearly remain.

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    Hey I have a great pic here that a local place took of our pup Northstar for Cinco de Mayo. They dress the dogs up and have a little feast with a dogarita and pet tacos. Ole!

    Thank you

    Banana Dream

    Ole! Great photo. You must love Northstar. I notice that the sombrero is not on Northstar's head.

    Dogaritas and tacos for pets! Interesting idea.

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    From Jewells:

    This is Cheerio a male Shepherd mix. He was taken from the home by Independence Animal Control because of neglect and abuse. He is very shy and skittish and tends to wander off to be alone when he's outside. Despite me and my colleague coaxing him he barely acknowledged us and spent his time outside walking around by himself. Poor sweet baby. We are hoping with time he'll begin to trust again. No health issues fortunately so we really hope he'll get adopted soon.

    Cheerio looks like he has potential. Hoping that he finds a home soon.


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    I lost Edie, the Best Dog in the World (fight me!) last week. She was 18 and 1/2 years old and spoiled every day of it. Don't know why, but I think it would make me feel better to see her on the Pet Thread.

    I post, SO rarely, as Best Thief in Lankhmar

    That photo shows how much she was loved. Thanks for sharing your memorial with us. What a sweetheart.

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    From Eromero, Pepper and Madison from Jan 2022. Madison wonders why Minnie the kitten can't be more like Pepper was.

    Awww, so sad that Pepper is gone. Glad you have Madison and Minnie.

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    Our Swiss guide dog Gioia enjoys some outdoor play time in lovely spring weather.

    Later, Gioia graciously leads the way to bunk space for her friend Odin, who has two hoomans in hospital.

    Odin has found his space away from home, but still looks a bit forlorn.

    Gioia also shares some toys with Odin, which perks him up.


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    Hi KT, it's been a year since I sent you cat pics. There was mention previously about cats cuddling up to fireplaces. Here are Bella and Betty outside of their beds enjoying the warmth of the fireplace. Also, Betty in the pantry messing with a plastic bag and Bella posing for a pic after a good brushing.

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    The cat-and-fireplace theme is popular! They look cozy. Betty and Bella are beautiful cats.

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    What a wonderful collection of pet stories today. Thank you for sharing your pets with us.

    If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

    petmorons at protonmail dot com

    Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

    Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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    If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, April 27. Some special PetMoron stories and photos there.

    Posted by: K.T. at 03:19 PM




    Comments

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    1 Meow!

    Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 04, 2024 03:24 PM (sAmhv)

    2 Ha! Usually that pic is captioned “But was I really a good boy?” or something like that.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2024 03:27 PM (SdkQO)

    3 Beautiful non human family members!

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 03:27 PM (o2ZRX)

    4 Happy Caturday everyone

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:30 PM (fwDg9)

    5 Doggie claiming his territory is funny

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:31 PM (fwDg9)

    6 Let me understand...you got the Rooster, the Chicken and the Serama.

    The Rooster goes with the Chicken, so who is having sex with the Serama?

    You see what I'm sayin? Somethings missing!

    Nice Pets Y'all!...

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 03:32 PM (R/m4+)

    7 I remember taking dog for a walk as a kid/ teenager
    This tree is mine, this fire hydrant is mine, this telephone pole is mine

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:33 PM (fwDg9)

    8 "As a male dog owner, I appreciate it very much."

    Oh, Mis Hum, it's not just the boys. Our girl, Luna, is an unflagging defender of her territory and she considers anywhere on her morning walk an area of potential conquest. I tell her she's my warrior princess.

    Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 04, 2024 03:34 PM (FEVMW)

    9 Hiya

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:36 PM (T4tVD)

    10 I wonder what is in a dogarita?

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 03:41 PM (rrtZS)

    11 I hate it when kids and dogs listen to the man, but Mom's voice is just like, blah blah blah.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 03:43 PM (OX9vb)

    12 Awesome pet pictures, everyone! I am so sorry for the loss of Edie. What a cutie.

    Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2024 03:43 PM (HywUa)

    13 Buster wasn't the only dog in the pool. Wasn't there some dog psychology that could lure Buster out, using the other dog, maybe?

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 03:44 PM (rrtZS)

    14 Buster needs a collar.

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 03:45 PM (rrtZS)

    15 Yes, Edie is a cutie.

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 03:45 PM (rrtZS)

    16 Had surgery on 'ol Joe last week to remove a growth that had become too large. He's doing a lot better so I think we bought him another year.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 03:46 PM (W/lyH)

    17 Yay Pet Thread. Nice pet thread. Good pet thread. 🐕

    Daisy has been getting me up punctually at 6:30 each morning with whines and collar-rattles and copious muzzle nudges and licks on any exposed skin.

    This morning I had my skin under the covers and scooted over out of her reach when she came up rattling and whining. Please, I asked her, just give me a couple of extra minutes! You're early. To my surprise and delight, she went and laid down on her bed. So I got to rest those extra minutes... from 6:27 to 6:30.

    We had a nice morning walk.

    Now to check out the furry post content....

    Posted by: mindful webworker - arf arf at May 04, 2024 03:50 PM (25PAU)

    18 Pynchon, our black cat who is supposed to be an indoor cat, dashes out the door whenever he gets a chance and we're not quick enough to close the door. The cat should be an Olympic runner he's so fast. Can anyone recommend a good flea collar? (Yes; I know I can ask this at the vet, but they'll charge me a big fee to tell me) The last collar we had for the cat (Hartz?) made him itch terribly. Thanks.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 03:52 PM (XkYcA)

    19 How does anybody get a collar around a Flea? I’ve some questions about Moth balls, too, tbh.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2024 04:00 PM (SdkQO)

    20 Nyah!

    Should snap a current pic of kittehs to send. Isis-hime is all of twelve and her adopted kitten Pip is about to hit a year.

    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 04, 2024 04:00 PM (h49Nh)

    21 Yay pet thread!

    Posted by: jewells45fuckcancer at May 04, 2024 04:01 PM (iF0sF)

    22 The last collar we had for the cat (Hartz?) made him itch terribly. Thanks.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 03:52 PM (XkYcA)

    Hartz products can cause neurological damage. I'm glad kitty was just itchy. If you can't afford frontline plus, try steelcoat flea drops. Both are safer than revolution. But I can't recommend anything else as safe.

    Posted by: Gushka can has kittehs what plays fetch at May 04, 2024 04:07 PM (jhAhX)

    23 18
    I recall that cats can move faster than a snake so are usually successful at killing the snake without being bitten. As do mongooses (not mongeese? LOL). Mine are good at catching the odd flying thing that gets in an open door, flies, moths, etc.

    Posted by: Ciampino - skipping all the way at May 04, 2024 04:07 PM (qfLjt)

    24 Yay Pet Thread. Nice pet thread. Good pet thread. 🐕

    Daisy has been getting me up punctually at 6:30 each morning with whines and collar-rattles and copious muzzle nudges and licks on any exposed skin.

    This morning I had my skin under the covers and scooted over out of her reach when she came up rattling and whining. Please, I asked her, just give me a couple of extra minutes! You're early. To my surprise and delight, she went and laid down on her bed. So I got to rest those extra minutes... from 6:27 to 6:30.

    We had a nice morning walk.

    Now to check out the furry post content....
    Posted by: mindful webworker - arf arf at May 04, 2024 03:50 PM (25PAU)
    With cats, first thing is purring, then whiskers in your ear, then you get the licking. If you still pretend to sleep they make biscuits on your chest.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 04:09 PM (o2ZRX)

    25 Oh and Hai!

    I missed you guys

    Posted by: Gushka can has kittehs what plays fetch at May 04, 2024 04:09 PM (jhAhX)

    26 Posted by: Gushka can has kittehs what plays fetch at May 04, 2024 04:07 PM (jhAhX)

    Thanks very much.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:09 PM (XkYcA)

    27 Thanks very much.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:09 PM (XkYcA)

    Fen steelcoat is generic Frontline and you should be able to get 3 doses online for 18 bucks

    Posted by: Gushka can has kittehs what plays fetch at May 04, 2024 04:11 PM (jhAhX)

    28 19 How does anybody get a collar around a Flea? I’ve some questions about Moth balls, too, tbh.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2024 04:00 PM (SdkQO)
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    Collar on a flea: use a dissecting microscope;
    Moth balls: remove balls from male moths (dissecting microscope or precise karate chop on fly-bys); no more moth babies.

    Posted by: Ciampino - This is SCIENCE at May 04, 2024 04:13 PM (qfLjt)

    29 We're heading to the beach tomorrow after hardly leaving the county for a year. Dog's suitcase just got packed. Yes, she has her own travel case from Amazon and I love it because I can pack all of her stuff compactly and efficiently.

    Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 04, 2024 04:16 PM (FEVMW)

    30 Posted by: Gushka can has kittehs what plays fetch at May 04, 2024 04:11 PM (jhAhX)

    We got the Hartz collar almost immediately after he started itching-Poor thing. It's not the expense of Frontline. It was the expense of a collar and a vet visit (We have having to deal with big expenses for a human boy- at the moment- car and new place to live) that was an issue. Thx for letting me know the generic name for Frontline..

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:17 PM (XkYcA)

    31 I imagine most dogs worry that they will run out of pee before they run out of trees. It must be very stressful.

    Posted by: WarEagle82 at May 04, 2024 04:17 PM (mQxC9)

    32 Ciampino's Rescue Kitties

    Still accepting donations towards the unkindest cut of all

    There's another more extensive photo update #251 at the link.
    Take a look if interested. Make sure to click on
    "See Older Updates" as well if it's your first time.

    https://is.gd/WQ5JcT OR http://tinyurl.com/4pak97f6

    ALSO LIVE STREAMING!! - Now most nights as well

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    Posted by: Ciampino - All must be sleeping hidden at May 04, 2024 04:18 PM (qfLjt)

    33 Oh that white lab looks just like my male dog Corwin. My female was a dark gold so the puppies ranged from that white to gold with a bunch of shades in between. Because they were yellows, all the puppies were various shades of yellow. I always wondered what color they would be if bred with a chocolate.
    We .ived on a pond, in fact owned two acres of the pond, but although he would get wet,was never that enthusiastic.

    Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 04:20 PM (t/2Uw)

    34 Years ago, I was cat sitting for my sister. She had two black Persians. Nice kittuhs! Anyway, I work mids so my sleep schedule is opposite of most. I was off one day and I woke up about mid afternoon and saw two paws, really close to my face. I looked up and Laura started making happy kittuh noises. The other kittuh, Casper, was trying to roll me out of bed by pushing my hip and also, making happy kittuh noises. More like 'our food dish is empty and litter box needs cleaned. Get up staff'.

    Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 04, 2024 04:23 PM (sAmhv)

    35 Wet out thar

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 04:24 PM (T4tVD)

    36 Critters!

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 04:25 PM (2UnvF)

    37 Buster: BRIAN IS IN THE POOL TOO, WHY ARE YOU BUSTIN' MY CHOPS LADY???

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 04:28 PM (XV/Pl)

    38 Bella looks so much like my Jasmine, gone now, a part Maine Coon, who we rescued as a tiny kitten in a K-Mart parking lot. where she ran the gauntlet of cars. She made it to 16 or 17. She became attached to me in her latter years so I have dusty memories of my sleeping buddy.

    Posted by: Ciampino - All the kittens must be sleeping hidden at May 04, 2024 04:29 PM (qfLjt)

    39 I gotta find the YT clip I saw the other day where two basset hounds were teaching their golden retriever buddy how to use the doggie door.

    Posted by: Catch thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 04:30 PM (Ds3Rc)

    40 34
    More like 'our food dish is empty and litter box needs cleaned. Get up staff'.

    Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 04, 2024 04:23 PM (sAmhv)
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    Funny. I thought they were trying to get you up to go to work.

    Posted by: Ciampino - All the kittens must be sleeping hidden. at May 04, 2024 04:32 PM (qfLjt)

    41 I love the parrot choreographer.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 04:32 PM (MNhXM)

    42 All is good here, except Jake is on a diet. 95 pounds! He was happy to see his friends at the vet but keeps pointing out that I've forgotten the treats.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 04:32 PM (yeEu9)

    43 31 I imagine most dogs worry that they will run out of pee before they run out of trees. It must be very stressful.
    Posted by: WarEagle82 at May 04, 2024 04:17 PM (mQxC9)

    The male ones, anyway.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 04:33 PM (Ds3Rc)

    44 What a great thread, thanks MisHum. Love the lead photo, and what a bunch of adorable bets. But the video with the dogs and the pool is just the best. Wonder just who feeds those dogs - or is it the tone of voice used?

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 04:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

    45 44/ Sorry I meant KT

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 04:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

    46 Beautiful pets as always.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at May 04, 2024 04:36 PM (JLq/1)

    47 Wet outside so getting rid of pine and Miami Grand Prix qualifying is on

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:36 PM (fwDg9)

    48 40 34
    More like 'our food dish is empty and litter box needs cleaned. Get up staff'.

    Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 04, 2024 04:23 PM (sAmhv)
    ----
    Funny. I thought they were trying to get you up to go to work.
    Posted by: Ciampino



    That too. My sister would tell me stories of how they would wake her up at 0500 on a Monday (holiday) because it was a work day and time for her to get up. Kittuhs don't care about holidays. They care about a strict schedule that must be met!

    Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 04, 2024 04:36 PM (sAmhv)

    49 That top picture .... new caption:
    'Honestly Mom, I didn't make THAT hole!'

    Posted by: Ciampino - wistfully ;ooks at Grand Canyon at May 04, 2024 04:36 PM (qfLjt)

    50 Buckley is a full six months old plus. The question is now, to neuter or not to neuter.... And at what point should he be neutered??? Before or after full growth or before lifting starts???
    If he makes it that long and I don't have to take him out back and sh........

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 04:37 PM (ypgrK)

    51 While it's possibly for the best, the last free range zebra in western WA has been corralled and captured.
    Sad. I was hoping she'd continue on the loose.

    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 04, 2024 04:37 PM (H+g+o)

    52 You can neuter any time. I would not neuter early. Some breeds take two years to reach full growth.

    Jake was neutered at six because of prostate issues.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 04:42 PM (yeEu9)

    53 Oh my goodness, Bella is gorgeous!

    Thank you for all the submissions today. Both kitties and doggehs.

    And the green parrot dance is hysterical.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 04:45 PM (nwXO5)

    54 How about cats and neutering age?
    Also is it different for males vs females?

    Posted by: Ciampino - The unkindest cut of all at May 04, 2024 04:48 PM (qfLjt)

    55 A lot of those serama chicken wings to fill you up.

    I think Zaxby's has switched to those.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 04:48 PM (di6C2)

    56 Let's see. Jake likes to go out at around 10:30 and 2:30. Fanny has some food in the bedroom so doesn't wake me up. Troubles comes in at some point at night and sleeps inside. He eats then. Goes out when I wake up as he doesn't like all the activity. I am so happy that Jake doesn't wake me up every two hours. That was hard to deal with.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 04:49 PM (yeEu9)

    57 Awww. They are all so adorable today.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 04, 2024 04:50 PM (NpAcC)

    58 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:17 PM (XkYcA)

    Meant "Got the Hartz collar "OFF".

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:53 PM (XkYcA)

    59 With a little circling and bladder control pup can rule the whole continent from the divide.

    Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2024 04:54 PM (FhXTo)

    60 I feel the same way. I know some places will neuter kittens but I think that causes health issues. Fanny was spayed pretty late because she had very light heats and I was worried about how tiny she was. She's come thru surgery a couple of times as yhey removed some death. Troubles is over a year old and got neutered because he's on his third abcess issue.

    It's really not going to change behavior. And they will likely have weight issues after. With all those cats, you'll have to neuter and spay earlier than me. I'd try to give them to 6 months.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 04:55 PM (yeEu9)

    61 Afternoon, pet people! Hope i made it in before the nood. Bella in particular is a beautiful cat. I've never had an all-gray, or as the cat fancy calls the color, "blue."

    German shepherds . . . as a boy, a big fan of the Rin Tin Tin Western TV series, I always wanted a shepherd. I also wanted a collie like Lassie. I'm glad now that our apartment lease wouldn't have allowed it, and that my mother was much more a fan of cats.

    Yes, in my experience, Hartz Mountain flea products can cause trouble. We put just such a collar on Linda's Angelique, the cream-furred Siberian who found me in a parking lot. She began to shake! We moved fast, cut off the collar, and shampooed her to get the stuff off her. She was okay -- but not long after that she started the thing of climbing in your lap and growling (but not leaving) if you tried to move her. And that lasted the rest of her life. (Though it might simply have been her real, crusty personality, I guess.)

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 04:56 PM (omVj0)

    62 The flea pills can cause seizures. It's too bad.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 04:59 PM (yeEu9)

    63 My brother and his wife have the exact same dynamic with their rowdy dog, as the husband and wife with the "swimming" labs.

    His wife complains that the dog will listen to him but won't listen to her. One time my daughter was there for that exact conversation. My brother replied to his wife, "That is because the dog knows I will beat his a$$."

    My daughter responded, "That is terrible, Uncle T. How many times have you beaten the dog?"

    He replied, "Never, but the dog knows it might happen if he fails to behave!"

    That daughter later grew up to have a dog training business as one of her side hustles.

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 04, 2024 04:59 PM (HlyYF)

    64 The serama is a deep-fake generated by Perdue Farms!

    Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2024 04:59 PM (FhXTo)

    65 As a male dog owner, I appreciate it very much.
    Misanthropic Humanitarian


    And probably as the owner of a male dog, too.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 05:00 PM (ynpvh)

    66 Pete The Piddling Pup

    A farmer's dog came into town,
    His christian name was Pete.
    A noble pedigree he had,
    To see him was a treat.
    And as he trotted down the street
    'Twas beautiful to see
    His work on every corner,
    His work on every tree.

    more at
    https://tinyurl.com/ykudvb38
    including the punchline




    Posted by: Ciampino - piddling at May 04, 2024 05:01 PM (qfLjt)

    67 63
    I liked the 'beating the dog' story.

    Posted by: Ciampino - piddling wet at May 04, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt)

    68 Just got back from a wedding. It's hot out there.

    Bella looks so much like my Jasmine, gone now, a part Maine Coon, who we rescued as a tiny kitten in a K-Mart parking lot.

    Maybe they were related. Bella was rescued in a Walmart parking lot.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 05:04 PM (ju2Fy)

    69 My boyhood cat, Rusty, was not neutered until he was something like seven years old. He'd never sprayed, at least not indoors -- he had the patio to lounge around and play in, and maybe he did it there, but we never smelled anything. Then, at age seven, he started in. We had a hell of a time getting him about eight blocks down the street to the only vet we knew. (We didn't have a cat carrier and had to go with a cardboard box.)

    He came through it all fine. Though in those days (1972) they kept the patient overnight. He was still dopey when he came home. He checked out each corner of the ground floor to make sure he was back home, then went to "his" recliner and squeaked. I put him in it and he slept off the rest of the dope, and was fine.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:05 PM (omVj0)

    70 Great pictures of all the pets. Thanks!

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 05:05 PM (XkYcA)

    71 There is one Alpha in every pack. That’s who the non alpha dog will listened to. If you let the dog be the alpha you will have no real control.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 05:06 PM (MNhXM)

    72 Bravecto is the best flea preventive on the market for both dogs and cats.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:08 PM (mKjJV)

    73 Buster reminds me of one of my Goldens, Boomer. The dog was part fish. He would constantly sneak away if we were out in the yard and hit the beach.

    The best part was his attempt to sneak away in slow motion as if moving very slowly would make him invisible. I'd say "I can see you" and he would freeze like a statue, wait a few ticks and then continue with the creeping.

    Big, happy clown dog who lived to swim.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 05:08 PM (LkLld)

    74 67
    I liked the 'beating the dog' story.

    Posted by: Ciampino - piddling wet at May 04, 2024 05:03 PM


    Yep. Clearly, Ivy League university presidents are dumber than dog trainers.

    The violent, racist Leftists running around the campus are fully aware that the orders of the administration will NEVER be enforced. So they act accordingly.

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 04, 2024 05:09 PM (HlyYF)

    75 72 Bravecto is the best flea preventive on the market for both dogs and cats.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:08 PM (mKjJV)
    ----
    But expensive. Is there a generic already?

    Posted by: Ciampino - piddlebum at May 04, 2024 05:11 PM (qfLjt)

    76 Rhonda (sister that died in 2005) and Humphrey
    Tall beagle like hound dog Maybe 1994..

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/rnws64ZhVVJY7Pcb7

    PS He trained my day to get him a dog bone as he would run upstairs from family room and bark at pantry door.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 05:12 PM (ENQN6)

    77 Ben Had,

    Buckley just caused me to fall, hit my head on the wall, and smash my knee on his hard chew bone.... This dog is going to be the death of me!

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 05:14 PM (9Q7Y5)

    78 Ciampino, there isn't that I know of.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:14 PM (mKjJV)

    79 73
    What a great story. He sounded absolutely loveable and entertaining.

    Posted by: Grateful at May 04, 2024 05:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

    80 I liked the "3 extra minutes" of sleep story.

    My wife had a friend that had a massive Bull Mastiff. Whichever spouse got up first let the dog out on work days.

    Usually, at least one of them got up early on Saturdays. One Saturday, they both slept in. The dog tried several times by subtle methods to inform them that it was wakey-wakey time.

    They still didn't respond. Finally, the dog decided to grab the corner of the mattress in its mouth and drag it to the floor with two adult humans riding on the mattress. They mutually agreed that it now was a good time to get up.

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 04, 2024 05:15 PM (HlyYF)

    81 lin-duh, ouch. Was he trying to herd you somewhere?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:16 PM (mKjJV)

    82 Buckley takes Simparica Trio for fleas, ticks, heart worms, and internal parasites. It is very expensive.

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 05:19 PM (9Q7Y5)

    83 Wally, the emotional-support alligator, has gone missing! 😭

    https://shorturl.at/ghrvK

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 05:19 PM (L/fGl)

    84 olddog in mo, your Bella looks like my rescue, Chloe.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 05:20 PM (D7oie)

    85 77 Ben Had,

    Buckley just caused me to fall, hit my head on the wall, and smash my knee on his hard chew bone.... This dog is going to be the death of me!

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 05:14 PM


    Ben likes horses ... because they never race between your feet!

    P.S. Hope you survived your injuries. Is Spawn out competing this weekend? I vaguely recall that there were some higher-level competitions coming up?

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 04, 2024 05:20 PM (HlyYF)

    86 54 How about cats and neutering age?
    Also is it different for males vs females?
    Posted by: Ciampino - The unkindest

    One of my good friends is a vet. She recommends spaying and neutering at 5-6 months. You definitely want to spay a cat before a first heat to eliminate breast cancer, which is aggressive in female kitties. For males, it stops spraying before it starts, because once it starts it may not stop, even after neutering. It also stops the vocalizations of intact males that can be not fun, esp if they smell a cat that is in heat.

    She feels the same for dogs, except Dobermans. They should have a first heat because they get weird bladder issues. This is the only breed she recommends waiting on.

    Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2024 05:22 PM (71y1j)

    87 Was he trying to herd you somewhere?
    Posted by: Ben Had
    -----
    No, I had him by the collar and he didn't want to go where I wanted him to... He's getting strong. I might be dropping him off at your place for doggie boot camp/training... 😎😂

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 05:22 PM (a5Jsm)

    88 >>What a great story. He sounded absolutely loveable and entertaining.

    He was a very good boy. His goal in life was to be happy and make everyone around him happy and he mostly succeeded.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 05:24 PM (LkLld)

    89 lin-duh, I'll give you a call later this evening.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 05:25 PM (mKjJV)

    90 I'll be out and about. Spawn has her JROTC Military Ball tonight.

    Spawn has Nationals Competition in July that she's about to start training for.

    Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2024 05:27 PM (9Q7Y5)

    91 Noodus hobbyana

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 05:28 PM (omVj0)

    92 86
    Thank you Piper

    Posted by: Ciampino - piddlebums at May 04, 2024 05:28 PM (qfLjt)

    93 Buckley just caused me to fall, hit my head on the wall, and smash my knee on his hard chew bone.... This dog is going to be the death of me!

    Posted by: lin-duh

    We have an elderly dog who is blind and hard of hearing. She follows me around and is constantly under foot. I am very careful both to avoid injuring her and to protect myself.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 05:30 PM (L/fGl)

    94 HOBBY NOOD

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:31 PM (fwDg9)

    95 The Golden I have now won't go near a pool, but I have to keep him on a 25' leash when we go to the beach because he loves the ocean. It wouldn't be bad except that he goes out way too far and I'm always worried he'll get caught in a rip tide. The long leash allows him to crash around in the waves and keeps me from having a nervous breakdown.

    Posted by: IrishEi at May 04, 2024 05:31 PM (3ImbR)

    96 Dogs and their peeing everywhere...

    You just *know* there's a The Far Side about it:

    https://tinyurl.com/4c2ync84

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:44 PM (njWTi)

    97 >>>Edie, the Best Dog in the World

    How cute is she!

    Posted by: m at May 05, 2024 03:28 AM (o3SCB)

    Gardening and Adventure Thread, May 4

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    Happy Saturday!

    We have some great gardeners in The Horde:

    I wasn't sure what would survive the slash and burn cleaning of my front garden in 2022, sent pictures of that last summer, I think. Last year I didn't see the Trillium and the iris showed a short three leaf fan. The Trillium is in a corner and had been pretty much covered over, while I think most of the Iris had been pulled out. I was surprised to see an actual clump of Trillium sessile in that corner! this year. It has a lot of common names but the one I know is toad trillium. The iris is a bearded iris called Cobra's Eye, and this year not only showed two fans but a multiflowered spike. I couldn't get the yellow tulip to stay bent out of the way, it's not part of the trillium!

    Lirio 100

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    Cobra's Eye is beautiful! The Trillium is fun, and so is the tulip!

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    Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

    From a niece:

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    Good things to come.

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    Critters

    Hey KT,

    Not sure if this is a pet thread entry or a garden thread. This is the Chuckwalla that lives in my garden. It is a girl as she is less colorful. She is particularly fond of oregano and I can find her snacking on it most mornings. She is very friendly and doesn't run away when I am out near her.

    WeeKreekFarmGirl

    I'm guessing that she may surprise you some mornings.

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    I had no idea that they ate oregano.


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    Why you don't leave your ladders outside

    K.T.,

    I don't usually read the gardening thread much, nor comment. (I do like to look at the pictures, sometimes, to relax me.) But I had the following encounter today...

    I went outside to do some measurements so I could buy slats for the section of fence I have to replace. I headed back inside, right past the ladder I have left outside all winter (with one or two forays inside to get into the attic). I know I shouldn't leave ladders outside for security reasons, but... excuses. I then realized I needed another measurement and went back out the back door with tape measure in hand.

    And *flutter* with an angry tweet caused me to turn my head as the robin burst from the ladder area. And I saw it. The birds had built a nest right between the rungs. I quickly grabbed my phone and took a couple of pictures. I don't have a selfie stick, so I couldn't get a good angle without getting much too close to the nest for my comfort. But they built a cozy little nest right about chest height, and there are at least two eggs in there, as you can see from the pics.

    So, all projects that require that ladder are off the to-do list until at least the end of May. I also ordered a game/trail camera, which I am going to install on a tree across the way, and hopefully be in time to get some egg-cracking and some baby birds.

    This goes along with the cardinals who make their nest (some years, anyway) in the massive rose bushes (actual bushes) in front of my living room window. Looks like I'm going to be building some bird houses/nesting shelves in the near future.

    GWB
    (most commonly on the Gun Thread)

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    What a great story!


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    Small Wildlife. Never mind that they look like little snakes. These are fun, and they turn into beautiful butterflies:

    Adventure

    Hi KT:

    We live in Maricopa County AZ, and my mom wanted an orchid tree, anacacho, or Bauhinia lunarioides, native to Texas and northern Mexico. They grow here just fine, though. We looked everywhere in AZ and couldn't find one, except for a couple of 36 inch boxed ones that were $3,200 each and wouldn't fit in our small front yard anyway.

    So I asked my brother who drives a truck cross country if he would be going through Texas anytime soon. He got back to me a couple of days later and said he would be coming across the I-10 and if I could find one along the way, he would stop in and pick it up. The hunt was on; I researched and contacted every potential small town nursery from Houston to San Antonio and out to Las Cruces, along his route. One contacted me to say that they were out, but gave me a suggestion for one east of Houston, so I called them. They had two, and I told them the story, paid over the phone, and my brother picked it up the next morning. Here it is in his little space where he keeps stuff in storage on its way to our house for mom's front yard garden.

    Nan in AZ

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    Wow! What a project!

    Here's part of a profile from the University of Arizona:

    If you are looking for an unarmed, small tree that can be tucked into a corner of a patio or courtyard or nestled up close to a house without damaging the foundation, investigate using Bauhinia lunarioides the Chihuahuan Orchid Tree. As winter turns to spring, clusters of small, white or rarely pink, orchid-like flowers start to dot this tree with their presence, drawing in swarms of butterflies to sip the sweet nectar. Individual flowers are not long-lived, but there are 6 to 10 flowers produced, stretching out the flower season for most of spring.

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    bau-lun flower.jpg

    Looks like a great choice for your Mom's yard!

    This plant's sterile, tender cousin, the Hong Kong Orchid Tree, is a symbol of Hong Kong. It grows in parts of Southern California, Florida and a few other places in the Southeast.

    Bauhinia_blakeana.jpg

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    Gardens of The Horde

    This nice osteosperum from 40 Miles North kinda balances out the great iris at the top of the post, I think.

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    Anything going on in your garden?


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    Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


    If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

    ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

    Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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    Week in Review

    What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, April 27


    Any thoughts or questions?

    I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

    Posted by: K.T. at 01:23 PM




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    1 foist?

    Posted by: anachronda at May 04, 2024 01:28 PM (edU/H)

    2 hiya

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 01:32 PM (T4tVD)

    3 Great pictures and stories today.

    Thanks KT.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:32 PM (psNWM)

    4 I had no idea that they ate oregano.

    Try planting Cilatro; it might taste like soap to them.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

    5 Busy morning--planted nine tomato plants in 5-gal pots. Two Black Cherry, three Petit Chocolat, and four Texas Wild. Big cages --they will need them!

    Last week I planted three Tiny Tim's in smaller pots, and four bell peppers which will sit in my front border for better sun. (Tomatoes in back.) Also have a pot each of rosemary, basil, golden lemon thyme, and mint.

    My dad would be pleased. I only got into my little efforts a few years ago, all my life had no interest at all. But he loved gardening, and so did his father--and HIS father was head gardener at a large estate in Devon, near Exeter, back in the late 1800's. Sometimes I can feel them watching as I putter

    Posted by: skywch at May 04, 2024 01:37 PM (uqhmb)

    6 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
    Almost done here, long way to get home.
    Been sifting compost from 2021, have better than 1 cart to go.

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:38 PM (3xsh4)

    7 The 1/3 acre of weeds was dragged today, bare soil now. It looks great.
    Still more to do; but the rest has pea gravel on it so we can't use a drag on it.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:38 PM (psNWM)

    8 Spicebush Swallowtail caterpillars

    My what big (fake) eyes you have...Look like some sort of Pixar-generated creatures.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

    9 Put some jojoba seeds in a ziplock wrapped in a moist paper towel to see if they'll sprout.
    Crossing my fingers as I'd like to plant them were we took out the dead or almost dead oleander. The last owners broke the watering system so it was 330 ft of sticks.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:41 PM (psNWM)

    10 Blackberries are producing a decent amount of fruit, will be ready in about a month. I thinned it out and it's already producing canes for next-year's fruit.

    Pecan tree has it's flowers. Crows will probably get all the nuts again this year ( the bastards! ).

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:42 PM (ynpvh)

    11 9 Put some jojoba seeds in a ziplock wrapped in a moist paper towel to see if they'll sprout.
    Crossing my fingers as I'd like to plant them were we took out the dead or almost dead oleander. The last owners broke the watering system so it was 330 ft of sticks.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:41 PM (psNWM)

    Oleanders are poisonous; recall seeing bees around the oleander flowers at my Dad's place and seeing a few acting punch-drunk. Honey can be poisonous depending on what plants bees take their nectar from.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

    12 I have a banger crop of dandelions. It's spectacular.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 01:45 PM (Q4IgG)

    13 Also--saw the first cicadas today (I'm in TN). Covered my little currant bush with insect netting, but have still seen several hovering around it. Too bad, ladies--go lay your eggs somewhere else.

    Posted by: skywch at May 04, 2024 01:47 PM (uqhmb)

    14 The peonies are exploding with lots of blooms, and my wife is cutting and putting them around the house in vases and goldfish bowls. Its nice to have the smell of fresh cut flowers in the house.

    Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 04, 2024 01:47 PM (d9Cw3)

    15 The weekend is coming

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:50 PM (3xsh4)

    16 12 I have a banger crop of dandelions. It's spectacular.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 01:45 PM (Q4IgG)

    Heh. I have all sorts of tiny flowers (yellow, purple) in my front yard. Yeah, they're weeds.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:50 PM (ynpvh)

    17 15 The weekend is coming

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:50 PM (3xsh4)

    His singing is okay.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

    18 The idiom in this part of the country is "putting things up" not "putting things by."

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:51 PM (RIvkX)

    19 Not sure will get home by Monday morning

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:52 PM (3xsh4)

    20 What a beautiful iris up top! Love that color. I have some trillium in my garden also, it's one of my favorite wildflowers. I rescued mine from the yard of a vacant house where the garden had been left to go to seed, it's persisted ever since.

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 01:52 PM (R4z5M)

    21 Those Robbin eggs wouldn't make much of an omlet.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

    22 Honey can be poisonous depending on what plants bees take their nectar from.
    Posted by: jim

    See Roman soldiers and honey from Rhododendron:
    "In 65 B.C.E., during a war against King Mithradates of Pontus, Pompey and his troops traveled through the same area where Xenophon's army had eaten the mad honey and the soldiers happily dined on tantalizing trap honeycombs their enemies placed along their route. One thousand Roman soldiers were ambushed and killed after being rendered inert by the toxic honey."
    https://is.gd/GsMcSi

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (fh5qa)

    23 Bought a bunch of dahlia bulbs for my wife's cutting garden and when I went to plant them last week i was surprised to see some of last year's dahlias starting to emerge. (I'm too lazy to dig them up - I just buy new bulbs each year.) We got down below 10 degrees and had an extended hard freeze last winter, so I didn't expect any to come back up. And even if it doesn't freeze hard, I assume the bulbs normally n just rot in the wet winter soil.

    Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (d9Cw3)

    24 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

    Not a fan.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (Q4IgG)

    25 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

    Not a fan.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer

    Doves have entered the thread.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (fh5qa)

    26 Those caterpillars are cute as bugs!

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (o2ZRX)

    27 I sowed some seeds two weeks ago in hope of attracting more hummingbirds but so far no sprouts are sighted. Scarlet runner beans and scarlet zinnia...

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:58 PM (RIvkX)

    28 Take a look at the first couple of responses to the spicebush caterpillar tweet. Exotic stuff. There's even a mechanical caterpillar toy that maybe kids could make.

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 02:04 PM (rrtZS)

    29 Not sure will get home by Monday morning
    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 01:52 PM (3xsh4)

    !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (T4tVD)

    30 22 Honey can be poisonous depending on what plants bees take their nectar from.
    Posted by: jim

    See Roman soldiers and honey from Rhododendron:
    "In 65 B.C.E., during a war against King Mithradates of Pontus, Pompey and his troops traveled through the same area where Xenophon's army had eaten the mad honey and the soldiers happily dined on tantalizing trap honeycombs their enemies placed along their route. One thousand Roman soldiers were ambushed and killed after being rendered inert by the toxic honey."
    https://is.gd/GsMcSi

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:55 PM (fh5qa)

    Read article in Nat. Geo. many years ago about the natives of Papua New Guinea and honey. Before they eat it, they would put a single drop on their tongues to see if it made their tongue tingle; if it did, they'd burn it, as the bees had been collecting nectar from toxic plants.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

    31 25 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

    Not a fan.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer

    Doves have entered the thread.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (fh5qa)

    They kept trying to make nests in the eave above my front door. In the end, I blocked off that area. Wouldn't mind it except the nests are so messy and foul up that area.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:12 PM (ynpvh)

    32 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

    From what I understand only certain species of bees can collect the nectar of toxic plants without killing or disabling them. . I believe the honeybees we are familiar with are not one of them .

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

    33 I grew up in the Rockies, where ornamental gardens are for the rich.

    Now that I'm in a mountain range where things grow, I have an experimental garden going. Perennials and Annuals scattered around the yard, in different light and soil. Once I see how they grow in each place, I'll design something around it.

    I'm thinking about a tiny "imperial garden" built around a birdbath instead of a big fountain.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 02:23 PM (0FoWg)

    34 Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 02:23 PM

    Sounds fun.

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 02:24 PM (rrtZS)

    35
    I'm taking an educated guess as to climate change - and it is changing, because it always does - and planted early. Everything looks good as soil temp is above 60 degrees F. Normal last freeze in this area is probably mid-May, but everything looks good on the 10 day forecast.

    As a bunch of grey haired scientists (the best kind) explained on a recent video I watched, high temperatures aren't really getting higher - in fact they don't hang around as long as previously, but low temperatures are moving higher. In other words the climate is in a moderating mode. YMMV. But here in my climate zone I can take a slight risk for enhanced yield.

    Some years it has taken until August for my first ripened tomato. Last year it was early July. Hoping for the same or better this year.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 02:24 PM (RKVpM)

    36 I looked up Lirio's Trillium. The "sessile" thing is because the flowers have no stem.

    I think the "toad" comes from the idea that the plant provides nice shade for toads.

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 02:26 PM (rrtZS)

    37 but low temperatures are moving higher. In other words the climate is in a moderating mode. YMMV.
    Posted by: Divide by Zero

    I really don't want to hear about higher lows, please and thank you.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 02:28 PM (fh5qa)

    38 I take out the winter/summer clothes at the same time every year.

    Yet somehow each year it is the hottest one on record AND snow will be a thing of the past...

    Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2024 02:32 PM (ibTVg)

    39 I had Robin's make a nest on top of one of the tires on my truck that sat outside. They're really messy and stupid birds.

    Not a fan.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer

    Doves have entered the thread.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:57 PM (fh5qa)

    They kept trying to make nests in the eave above my front door. In the end, I blocked off that area. Wouldn't mind it except the nests are so messy and foul up that area.
    Posted by: jim
    ----

    House Wrens. I found a nest, with eggs in it, in the engine compartment of my truck. It is driven daily.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 02:35 PM (XeU6L)

    40
    I really don't want to hear about higher lows, please and thank you.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 02:28 PM


    Here in the SE corner of Pennsylvania it is the difference between heavy, heart attack inducing snow shoveling in winter, or rain.

    :: Bites lip like Bill Clinton ::

    I feel your pain.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 02:35 PM (RKVpM)

    41 From Boise area: Lows 32-53 F, highs 50-68. Wind advisories last Mon. and today.

    Under puttering, Husband removed the shower valve cartridge and put in a new one. That took 2 new tools, breaking the old cartridge, and soaking lots of shower trim in straight vinegar. But it looks and works so well now!! He also bought us new carbon monoxide detectors - old ones probably had been here since house was first up for sale. And he had to repair another irrigation sprayer.

    Sycamores are leafing out - most maples already leafed out - oak has lots of tassels but no leaves yet. We bought a new 'Autumn Blaze' maple and planted it on our south side.

    I appear to suck at growing lettuce - no sprouts at all from 2 tries. Maybe I should grow it in the mini-greenhouse. That currently holds all plant starts, but after a short trailer trip next week, it's time to plant out everything, and the squashes/corn seeds too.

    Remember, when you bury a dead body, plant endangered plants over it so it's illegal to dig it up. Follow me for more gardening tips!

    Posted by: Pat* at May 04, 2024 02:39 PM (6afOC)

    42 32 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (ynpvh)

    From what I understand only certain species of bees can collect the nectar of toxic plants without killing or disabling them. . I believe the honeybees we are familiar with are not one of them .
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

    http://tiny.cc/r1qxxz

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

    43 But they built a cozy little nest right about chest height, and there are at least two eggs in there, as you can see from the pics.

    I built a 12x16 pantry room off the back of my house. I extended the roof 3 feet past the outside wall so I could hang tools on it. Almost every year I find a Robin's nest somewhere amongst the tools. A couple days ago I went to grab the post hole digger to put in some corner posts on a fence build. Mama Robin had already claimed it. Bought a new PH digger yesterday.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 02:42 PM (i7KoL)

    44 I always thought toad trillium was because of its mottled leaves, LOL. There have a couple of other surprises too. There is a patch of sweet woodruff appearing this year, I actually don't remember planting (I have been in this house for a long time). I had a small patch of Italian arum that always stayed a small patch until this year. It seems to be trying to take over.

    Posted by: Lirio100 at May 04, 2024 02:46 PM (I5U35)

    45 We have a yew out back. It's not huge, but during a fairly strong windstorm a couple weeks ago 4 bird nests got blown out of it.

    No idea if it was 4 of the same species or 4 different or what. At least one nest looked different, but they were all pretty beat up.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 02:46 PM (Q4IgG)

    46 Mild sunny weather here, so I added Indigo Sun, Aunt Ruby's German Green, and Paul Robeson tomato plants to my garden plot. Fingers crossed we don't get frost later on, but if it's forecast I'll deploy the cloches.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 02:47 PM (FkUwd)

    47 Mad Honey would be a great name for a psychedelic rock band.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 02:48 PM (FkUwd)

    48 Indigo Sun, Aunt Ruby's German Green, and Paul Robeson tomato plants to my garden plot...
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    [imagines hearing mellifluous voice in the garden singing 'Old Man River' on warm summer nights]

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 02:53 PM (XeU6L)

    49 I suppose the Robeson tomatoes ought to be planted in the Lucky Old Sun.

    My yews were deathtraps for songbirds, because they seemed so attractive for nesting but were a happy hunting ground for semi-feral cats. Many was the night we heard wild screeching and yowls from deep inside the foliage as Great Nature took her course.

    The native thorny hawthorn is taught as being a good nest for little birds because the cats have to work the area slowly and make a lot of snaps and pops, giving the bird an advantage. Russian olive, an otherwise attractive bush, has invaded the hawthorn's turf and the ecology guys just hate that.

    I have successfully moved robins' nests that were just plain in the wrong place. They're resentful, but usually work with it. I probably would make sacrifices to protect, say, a bluebird or purple martin, but we're just not short of robins here.

    Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 04, 2024 02:54 PM (zdLoL)

    50 That Robin story brought back a great memory. We used to store a garden hose rolled on a hook underneath the back deck. Robins decided it was a great place to build a nest even with all the activity around and above. We just bought another hose so we didn't have to disturb it until the birdies were gone. Moved the hose though. Next year we got a giant hornets nest instead. Should have left the birds.

    Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 02:56 PM (t/2Uw)

    51 Long trip home
    But the weekend is here

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:09 PM (fwDg9)

    52 That sounds like song lyrics, Skip.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 03:10 PM (FkUwd)

    53 Small Farmer's Journal has a good article on making sunflower oil. I knew about ising a Corona mill to crack seeds. You can also get oil that way but there's a lot of waste. They mention a Piteba press, that heats the seeds to increase oil flow. Amazon has it. It's not cheap but might be worth looking into.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 03:10 PM (yeEu9)

    54 Safe travels Skip !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:12 PM (T4tVD)

    55
    My wife, who never gets sick, came down with something respiratory related. It lasted for 10 days. I've had about five consecutive days of extremely runny nose, slight fever, a productive cough. Oximeter measurement a little lower then normal. I also never get sick.

    If this is the so-called bird flu it may be something to those in lousy shape. Our neighbors (upwind) have chickens and some have died. Just an FYI to stock up on boxes of tissue. I was going through a box a day.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 03:14 PM (RKVpM)

    56 We have a large sycamore right next to the house, the seed bombs are bad in a storm

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:15 PM (fwDg9)

    57 Long trip home is done, traffic and rain didn't help

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

    58 Yes that's the same stuff I have. Kinda came out of the blue. My dog doesn't understand that I'm not up for fun today.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 03:22 PM (yeEu9)

    59 I dug a lilac bush out of my garden plot this week. I love lilac, but it's in a bad spot, and it's old and always gets devoured by morning glory.

    I replanted about a dozen of its smaller shoots to the fenceline between houses, so we'll have a nice lilac hedge.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 03:23 PM (OX9vb)

    60 Raining lightly here.

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:26 PM (T4tVD)

    61 That desert orchid amazes me. The species that grow near the coast are beautiful, but I didn't know that there was a desert-adapted one.

    Posted by: KT at May 04, 2024 03:34 PM (rrtZS)

    62 I'll deploy the cloches.
    Posted by: All Hail Eris

    I had never hear of cloches.
    We put a circle of 1/2" chicken wire around plants to keep the critters from eating them.
    It stops all but the diggers and climbers.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 03:48 PM (gVydF)

    63 I knew about ising a Corona mill to crack seeds. You can also get oil that way but there's a lot of waste. They mention a Piteba press, that heats the seeds to increase oil flow. Amazon has it. It's not cheap but might be worth looking into.
    Posted by: Notsothoreau

    Brother in law welded a small box out of steel, with a slit at the bottom of one side.
    He puts jojoba seeds in and gets oil out of the bottom. The oil looks just like the stuff they sell for $1.25/oz.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 03:55 PM (gVydF)

    64 I have a trail camera up and (I hope) pointed at the nest now. We'll see what it catches.

    Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 04:47 PM (1zxQh)

    65 Also, some great gardeners in the Horde.

    Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2024 04:48 PM (1zxQh)

    66 Pat* I cracked up at your tip!

    A conspiracy-minded pal convinced me and another gardener that seeds from store-bought foods probably wouldn't germinate because Big Farm sterilize most of them. So put 4-5 seeds per cell.'

    Oh, dear. We each transplanted more than 50 seedlings into bigger containers and composted the rest.

    I don't think they'll all fit in the vertical planter pots.

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 05:54 PM (bLaz5)

    Bridges don't always make sense

    viaduct hsr.jpg

    I understand the snark here:

    This is the most remarkable human achievement ever, 1600 feet of high speed rail after 9 years and 11 billion dollars

    It takes about 5 minutes to walk 1600 feet so a high speed rail for that is a really big deal

    California is so competent

    The Fresno River Viaduct in Madera County is one of the first completed high-speed rail structures. At nearly 1,600 feet long, high-speed trains will travel over the riverbed and will run parallel with the BNSF Railroad.

    Meanwhile, a little south of this remarkable achievement, the most notable feature of this project to me was the amount of massive diesel machinery scattered about the landscape. Oh, and torn-up landscape.

    On a recent trip to Fresno, we were considerably delayed on the trip up, but on the trip back the delay was so great that we turned around and backtracked until we could reach side roads to find our way home. Apparently, some parts of the (temporary, I hope) roadway built to accommodate the rail construction had collapsed due to water saturation.

    Maybe they miscalculated the parts of the roadway which they should elevate above ground level. Despite the engineering reports of soil saturation, etc. that preceded construction.

    * * * * *

    Saving Hamas

    The Biden Administration: Building Bridges of Understanding

    The Barbieland Intifada on our university campuses is just a distraction. But one that may have gotten out of control of the Ruling Class to some extent. Why doesn't the Barbieland Intifada appreciate that plan to build a floating bridge to deliver food to Hamas?

    *

    Tough piece by Lee Smith in Tablet: The Palestinian terror organization refuses to release hostages while clinging to its last stronghold in Rafah. So why is the Biden administration throwing the full weight of the U.S. government at Israel to prevent it from routing Hamas?

    Reports are circulating that the Israelis are planning an operation in Rafah to eliminate the last Hamas stronghold in Gaza. . . Bizarrely, the White House's statements and actions show that Hamas' survival is more important than the security of a traditional American partner, Israel; more crucial to American interests than the preservation of the U.S.-led order of the Middle East; more precious than the dozens of American lives that Hamas ended on Oct. 7; more valuable than however many Americans and Israelis are still alive in the terror army's tunnels.

    Why? As the money and prestige that the U.S. has invested month after month in protecting Hamas demonstrate, the Biden administration sees the terror group as a valuable asset.

    A day after the massacre, before Israel's campaign against Hamas even began, Secretary of State Antony Blinken wrote that he was encouraging the Turkish government's "advocacy for a cease-fire." It makes no difference that the tweet has since been deleted, since the White House has produced no shortage of evidence since that its top priority is to deter Israel from defeating Hamas, by increasing Israel's vulnerabilities at every turn, and conditioning aid on Israel adopting a purely defensive posture. . .

    The president abdicated America's historical role of vetoing anti-Israel activity at the U.N. Instead, the U.S. delegation abstained from a key Security Council resolution in March demanding an immediate cease-fire--thereby putting America's diplomatic weight behind Hamas' demand that it should be allowed to keep its hostages and continue ruling Gaza. The White House then sanctioned Israeli civilians on the West Bank for crimes dreamed up by left-wing pro-Palestinian organizations, while ignoring a Palestinian terror wave aimed at murdering Jewish civilians who were guilty of crimes like stopping at a red light, buying gas, and herding sheep. Much of the false reporting supporting the pro-Hamas offensive is channeled through U.S. Army Gen. Michael Fenzel. The U.S. Security Coordinator for Israel and the Palestinian Authority are spending taxpayer resources to build a Palestinian terror army on the West Bank that may soon be repurposed for Gaza, too.

    By compelling Jerusalem to "surge" food aid and energy to Gaza, the White House broke Israel's siege, and demanded an ally resupply its adversary at wartime. Whenever Israel goes on the offensive, Biden and aides publicly threaten to stop resupplying arms. . .

    Hmmmm . . .

    So many countries refuse to take Palestinian refugees:

    It's useful to remember that what distinguishes the Palestinians from other ethno-national groups born of the breakup of the multiethnic empires of Europe and the Levant after World War I is that their claim on the world's attention issues largely from their willingness to hire themselves out as terrorist mercenaries.

    On whose behalf were the Palestinians acting when they destabilized the region with their gruesome Oct. 7 attack? Iran--but also the Biden administration. The two share an interest in collapsing the traditional U.S.-led order of the Middle East that Donald Trump had restored, after Barack Obama began the process of dismantling it.

    Up until Obama, the pillars of America's security architecture were the Persian Gulf's oil-rich Arab states, led by Saudi Arabia, and, in the eastern Mediterranean, Israel and Egypt. Early in his first term Obama signaled he intended to undo that order when he gave a speech in Cairo and invited officials from the Muslim Brotherhood, existential enemies of the military regime then led by Hosni Mubarak. Within two years, the White House withdrew its support for Mubarak during the Arab Spring revolutions and ushered in a Muslim Brotherhood government. Egypt became the first pillar of the old U.S. security order to fall.

    Obama's aides made it clear that his second term would be devoted to securing a nuclear deal with Iran.

    Okay, this piece leaves out a lot of information that might soften views toward the role of the USA, but if you read the whole thing, I think the "Saving Hamas" thesis hangs together pretty well.

    *

    You may ask, "If the Biden administration is so hostile to Israel, why do the pro-Palestinian protesters on campus still call Biden a murderer"?

    Well, they were primed. From an earlier post:

    Helen Dale provides a droll introduction to Lorenzo Warby's analysis of Franz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth in Our postcolonial trash needs taking out.

    After Hamazis gleefully killed a stack of Jews - - one of the largest terrorist killings ever; per capita, the most murderous terror killing ever; the largest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust - - within hours, various academics told us how it exemplified decolonisation.

    When you look into the history, this turns out to be literally true.

    The "lesson" of decolonisation was that if you terrorise settlers - - if you kill entire families - - they leave. . .

    Except for the Jews in Israel. The point is that "decolonization" = "terrorism".

    Another large reason, however, is an outgrowth of Postcolonial Theory, which classes Israeli Jews as "settlers": they cannot be refugee populations. And at this point, the circle closes. Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth is the ur-text of Postcolonial Theory. The book was written while Fanon was resident in Algeria during the Algerian Revolution. He was an avid supporter.

    That The Wretched of the Earth is the ur-text of Postcolonial Theory says very bad things about both Postcolonial Theory and academe. The Wretched of the Earth is mostly an angry rant that mistakes Theory for evidence and treats historical events as a pick 'n' mix to feed its narrative. . .

    *

    Sounds something like what Bruce Gilley and Mary Grabar said about Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States in 2020.

    Grabar, a resident fellow at The Alexander Hamilton Institute for the Study of Western Civilization, said her critique of Zinn was that "he misrepresents history."

    "What I've tried to do is just look at what he says and provide a factual rebuttal," Grabar said. "I was quite surprised by the extent to which Howard Zinn distorted history, deliberately lied." For instance, she noted, Zinn wrote that internment camps for Japanese Americans during World War II were kept secret. "Not until after the war did the story of the Japanese-Americans begin to be known to the general public," he wrote in Chapter 16. In fact, numerous newspapers and magazines wrote about the camps at the time, quite a few editorializing in favor of them.

    "It's amazing what you'll find in that book when you start digging and it's really shocking that historians have not raised a ruckus and demanded the book be withdrawn," Grabar said. "He really has harmed traditional scholarship and the kinds of conversations that we should be having - having a balanced and honest look at our history, the good points and the bad points."

    Grabar's talk will include what Gilley calls a "Save the Children from Howard Zinn" book drive: He's encouraging attendees to buy copies of Grabar's book to donate to local libraries and schools.

    "What if everyone had a 'Debunking Howard Zinn' alongside their 'People's History'? Well, that'd be a pretty great education," Gilley said.

    *

    Wonder if Portland State wishes that Bruce Gilley and Peter Boghossian were still its big problems?

    * * * * *

    Another Book Review

    I'm sure that "Perfessor" Squirrel has some great reading materials lined up for discussion in tomorrow's Book Thread. I'm usually not around on Sunday mornings, but I have run into something interesting:

    Theodore Dalrymple reviews a new book: Orwell's Arresting Ambiguities

    D. J. Taylor judiciously steers a course between hagiography and debunking.

    George Orwell said that Charles Dickens was an author well worth stealing, which is to say, attaching to one's cause whatever it might be. If you can say "Dickens would have thought likewise," you are claiming the approval not only of a genius, but of a man of deeply generous and humane nature (never mind any squalid revelations about his actual biography).

    George Orwell has suffered something of the same fate: thanks to a kind of secular beatification, everyone wants to claim him. He is, so to speak, the voice of unvarnished truth in a world of prevailing untruth. Like George Washington, he could not tell a lie.

    The problem with such beatification is that it easily provokes an equal and opposite effort at debunking, which is as unrealistic as the process of beatification itself. . .

    A brief book, not overly academic, which Dalrymple thinks is the best summation of Orwell's life and work.

    But:

    Occasionally Taylor, whose own judgment is pretty good, misses something important. For example, he describes the effect that Orwell's time in Spain had on him:

    Spain, it is safe to say, politicised Orwell in a way that his exposure to homegrown socialism in the previous five years had not. To begin with, it offered him a vision of how an alternative world, founded on the principles of freedom and equality, might work.

    Orwell told the general litterateur, Cyril Connolly, who had been with him at Eton, that he had seen "wonderful things" in Barcelona, then a revolutionary city in the control of the Trotskyist POUM. Taylor continues:

    It was, he declared, "the first time that I had ever been in a town where the working class was in the saddle." Churches were being systematically demolished by gangs of workmen. Shops and cafes bore inscriptions saying that they had been collectivised. Tipping was forbidden by law, all private motor cars had been commandeered, and all the trams and taxis had been painted in the anarchist colours of red and black. "In outward appearance it was a town in which the wealthy classes had practically ceased to exist."

    Everyone dressed the same too, in drab overalls, Maoist avant la lettre.

    Barcelona, then, was a Catalonian Pyongyang: and it is important to recall that Orwell approved of it. At this stage of his development, he was an enthusiastic totalitarian, and the shallowness of his belief that such uniformity was a triumph for freedom and equality is rather startling in a man who, a very few years later, was to be the greatest literary scourge of totalitarianism in the world. It was all to the credit of Orwell that he changed his opinion of totalitarianism so diametrically, but had he died just after the publication of Homage to Catalonia, not living long enough to write his anti-totalitarian masterpieces, he would have been remembered, if he was remembered at all, as a literary forerunner and praise-singer of some of the worst features of communist regimes. It had to be remembered too that his underlying objection to Stalin's policy in Spain was that it was not revolutionary enough, that he promoted the Popular Front, albeit as a mere tactic, rather than the immediate revolution, à la Barcelona, as Orwell would have liked.

    Fortunately, Orwell's views changed.

    Orwell did not have fifty years to live, let alone seventy. Perhaps for the good of his subsequent reputation, he died at the very acme of his career, having just completed an undoubted masterpiece that, notwithstanding the implosion of the Soviet Union, remains, alas, of strong current resonance.

    I recommend this book unreservedly. It deals most sensitively with Orwell's multiple ambiguities without trying to fit them into a Procrustean bed. It informs, enlightens, and entertains. It restores one's faith in the value of criticism.

    Reviewed
    Who Is Big Brother?
    by D. J. Taylor

    Theodore Dalrymple was the perfect person to write this review.

    Quote

    "Kids." Many of these protestors are undergrads, many are law and PhD students. All of them are adults. A huge segment of this country faces the full brunt of reality at 18 but if you attend grad school at the richest universites on earth you get to be a kid until your 27th birthday.

    Rob Henderson

    * * * * *

    Music

    Basin Street Blues

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    Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

    This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

    Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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    Last week's thread, April 27, May the power be with you

    Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.


    Posted by: K.T. at 11:15 AM




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    1 Whoa

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:16 AM (P5BPp)

    2 I think I remember Matt Damon pushing the works of Howard Zinn in the movie "Good Will Hunting" and in his interviews later as his celebrity rose.

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:23 AM (P5BPp)

    3 Caught a comment on the earlier thread requesting a link to the Eurovision votiing so people could vote for Israel.
    Here it is:
    https://eurovisionworld.com/esc/eurovision-2024-poll

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (t/2Uw)

    4 So much material for a Saturday morning, and four special appearances by Mitch McConnell to boot!

    It's no wonder the HQ is known as America's Content Provider.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 11:25 AM (bo7UB)

    5 Bridges are great. Government does not make sense.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:25 AM (di6C2)

    6 hiya

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 11:27 AM (T4tVD)

    7 People vote for a Eurovision song, right? Best Song?

    Or is that not how it works?

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 11:28 AM (/QIWP)

    8 Chris Hayes looks like a shaved panda.

    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 11:28 AM (gPzkP)

    9 One of the things that sets the Palestinian situation apart from other conflicts is that Israel has never been permitted to fight the war to its completion. Every single conflict was snuffed at the point where the Israelis would be in a position of dominance and able to dictate peace terms.

    So I can get why the Israelis want to see this one go the full nine innings.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:31 AM (llXky)

    10 I wonder how much the people who own that property right next to the "high speed rail bridge" got.

    Or were they just screwed...

    *going with screwed*

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:31 AM (Q4IgG)

    11 Oh, and this would have been willowed, but here it is: It's fine if you don't believe in God, or like people of faith, etc., but do you have to share that insight with us on the Prayer Thread?

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:33 AM (llXky)

    12 Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:31 AM

    I would love to see some enterprising blogger or YouTuber go there and get an interview with the owner.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 11:34 AM (/QIWP)

    13 I wonder if that bridge will ever carry a train
    hell, I wonder if the track will be laid down at all

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (/7KEl)

    14 "Kids." Many of these protestors are undergrads, many are law and PhD students. All of them are adults.

    The infantilization of young adults over the past 10-20 years has always grated on me. They do it in sports all the time. College sports and even professional sports. Calling everyone "kids". Young adults in their early 20s are called "kids". The whole "let the kids play" movement in MLB.

    Of course the Marxist left does not do it for everything. In terms of sexualizing actual children, they "adultify" them. Same thing for the movement to lower the voting age to 16. And for decisions on abortion and "gender transition".

    The sad thing is that a teenager today is much less mature than a teenager 50, 75, 100 years ago. We live in such prosperity and luxury that people are allowed to continue a child mindset through their teen years and early 20s. Whereas in generations past, teenagers were working and practically living as responsible adults.

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (P5BPp)

    15 Looks like a good bicycle track.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (lCWOD)

    16 What made Eric Blair so good was the fact that he embraced totalitarianism at a young age but turned his back on it later, letting totalitarianism have it with both barrels with Animal Farm and 1984, precisely because he knew and understood how they worked.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (LwmLF)

    17 I'm glad to see you included "Barbieland Intifada". I first saw that on Insty last night and thought this is going to achieve widespread usage.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:36 AM (CsUN+)

    18 I'm glad we didn't waste money on a wall, because that might have detracted from the effort to build high speed rail viaducts.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:37 AM (CsUN+)

    19 Whereas in generations past, teenagers were working and practically living as responsible adults.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (P5BPp)
    ---
    In generations past, the age of majority was 21.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:37 AM (llXky)

    20 The infantilization of young adults over the past 10-20 years has always grated on me. They do it in sports all the time. College sports and even professional sports. Calling everyone "kids". Young adults in their early 20s are called "kids". The whole "let the kids play" movement in MLB.

    Which is especially rich given all the "kids" who go into the military at 18.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:38 AM (CsUN+)

    21 Whenever I see people cheering for HSR in other forums online, I remind them of the CA debacle, and the fact , places like Germany have HSR (that damned “Other Countries do it and we need to be like Other Countries!!!” Argument) but as most of their tracks are not equipped to deal with them, the high speed trains so fawned over just manage 137 kmph. For those who like quarter pounders with cheese at McDonald’s, that 85 mph or thereabout.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:39 AM (LwmLF)

    22 I remember hearing talk about the bullet train in California way back in the 90s when I lived there. So they never built it? Not surprising…. Dems have been fully in charge in CA since Pete Wilson retired and their competence is questionable in all things except craziness

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:39 AM (xT8gx)

    23 Over the years I have wondered why the leaders we have screwed over haven't struck back?

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 11:39 AM (W/lyH)

    24 why a duck?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)

    25 Eyepatch John McCain Crenshaw just old his buddy, Neil Ballon Head Cavuto, that anyone who wants to secure the border and stop funding Ukraine is the "real uniparty". So there you go.

    Posted by: Vengeance at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (CJqj6)

    26 I think I remember Matt Damon pushing the works of Howard Zinn in the movie "Good Will Hunting" and in his interviews later as his celebrity rose.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:23 AM (P5BPp)

    I read that as "as his celebrity nose"

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (T4tVD)

    27 exceedingly dated reference

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (/7KEl)

    28 One can't appreciate Homage to Catalonia without understanding the background. It seemed really obscure in my first reading, but when I revisited it while writing Long Live Death, I got a lot more out of it.

    Another good book on the what happened to volunteers is Comrades and Commissars by Cecil Eby. It's about the Lincoln Battalion and pulls no punches.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (llXky)

    29 I wonder if that bridge will ever carry a train
    hell, I wonder if the track will be laid down at all
    Posted by: Don Black


    Depends when Navin Gruesome invites over the CCP Corps of Engineers.

    Posted by: weft Carnac at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (IG4Id)

    30 1944: 18 year olds storm Omaha Beach and pilot bombers over Hamburg

    2024: 25 year olds whine about the inadequate food, drink and toilets provided to them during their "occupation".

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:41 AM (CsUN+)

    31 The sad thing is that a teenager today is much less mature than a teenager 50, 75, 100 years ago. We live in such prosperity and luxury that people are allowed to continue a child mindset through their teen years and early 20s. Whereas in generations past, teenagers were working and practically living as responsible adults.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (P5BPp)

    When I was 14, I didn’t leave home but home left me. (Long story.) only years later did I figure out how important that was. Kids these days just don’t know.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:41 AM (LwmLF)

    32 Chris Hayes looks like a shaved panda.

    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 11:28 AM (gPzkP)

    Now that you mention it....

    Posted by: BignJames at May 04, 2024 11:42 AM (AwYPR)

    33 Watching the Black Bloc in Portland continue to destroy businesses and the city is cheap, high quality entertainment.

    Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 04, 2024 11:42 AM (7V8BR)

    34 There's just something about Chris Hayes' physiognomy that makes me want to hit him in the face with a flounder (dead or alive, whichever is available).

    Posted by: Paco at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (njExo)

    35 The thing is that all history is, or at least ought to be, debate. There is no such thing as an historian who doesn't distort. Now, that doesn't mean Zinn isn't dishonest; he is.

    But far too many people - and I mean my allies - take uncritically the history they've heard.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (1bNHn)

    36 Chris Hayes looks like a shaved panda.


    Which end?

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (CsUN+)

    37 Thanks for this Thread, K.T. !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (T4tVD)

    38 Florida has high speed rail between Miami and Orlando. Another example of Florida showing what is possible if you really want to get something done.

    Posted by: Florida Putting Up the Ws at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (0Gsdq)

    39 Eyepatch John McCain Crenshaw just old his buddy, Neil Ballon Head Cavuto, that anyone who wants to secure the border and stop funding Ukraine is the "real uniparty". So there you go.
    Posted by: Vengeance at May 04, 2024 11:40 AM (CJqj6)
    ---
    It is strange but true that physical courage is not the same as moral courage. We like to think that brave people are brave about everything, but in reality, the same person who calmly ignores rifle fire might be abjectly terrified of social ostracism.

    Indeed, I think that some of the physical courage comes from the fear of dishonor, which exceeds the fear of harm of even death.

    Thus we find people who showed a reckless disregard for physical harm who will only take what they consider to be the safest political positions.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (llXky)

    40 38 Florida has high speed rail between Miami and Orlando. Another example of Florida showing what is possible if you really want to get something done.
    Posted by: Florida Putting Up the Ws at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (0Gsdq)

    IIRC privately funded.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (LwmLF)

    41 Calling everyone "kids". Young adults in their early 20s are called "kids".

    Really. Know any field grade combat officers? It's pretty common for senior CO's to call their command "kids." In the infantry, the name of the branch even translates to that.

    Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (zdLoL)

    42 OK that pic at top doesn't look anything like the RR building scenes from movies-

    where's the tent city with the opium dens and the prostitutes?
    where are all the Chinamen?

    where are the rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)

    43 There's just something about Chris Hayes' physiognomy that makes me want to hit him in the face with a flounder (dead or alive, whichever is available).

    He occupies the uncanny valley between male and female.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+)

    44 Damon said Zinn was his neighbor and his mom taught with him or some such shit. Who knows? The lies these assholes spew never ends.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (R4t5M)

    45 Is it just me, or is there a connection between the silliness happening around the world, and the fact that people with names like Amjad work for the CIA?

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (98dBG)

    46 But far too many people - and I mean my allies - take uncritically the history they've heard.
    Posted by: Eeyore at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (1bNHn)
    ---
    Not me! Can I interest you on something about Span or China?

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (llXky)

    47 It is strange but true that physical courage is not the same as moral courage. We like to think that brave people are brave about everything, but in reality, the same person who calmly ignores rifle fire might be abjectly terrified of social ostracism.

    Not really. The rifle bullet might kill you so it will be over. Social ostracism is a living death. So absolutely, physical courage can easily be greater than moral courage.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:46 AM (LwmLF)

    48 where are the rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists?
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)

    *raises hand*

    Posted by: Bushwhacker (in a good way) at May 04, 2024 11:46 AM (iODuv)

    49 where are the rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists?
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)
    ---
    The Methodists are now bull dykes. Made it official last week.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:47 AM (llXky)

    50 where are the rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists?
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)

    That, or the friendly trains with faces, trying to please a man named Sir Toppem Hat.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:47 AM (98dBG)

    51 Chris Hayes looks like he got beat up a lot in school. Those glasses do not help his cause.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:47 AM (LwmLF)

    52 I spent the summer of my 18th birthday doing things like PT at 0400 in 80% humidity, rucking 12 miles in miserable conditions and loving every second of it. Those are the things which build confidence in your life. Not having mommy and daddy wiping your nose and holding your hand every day.

    Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2024 11:47 AM (n4fLp)

    53 Not really. The rifle bullet might kill you so it will be over. Social ostracism is a living death. So absolutely, physical courage can easily be greater than moral courage.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:46 AM (LwmLF)
    ---
    Yep, and guys who did patrols in Iraq or Afghanistan all shut the hell up over the vaxx mandate. Gotta save the pension.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:48 AM (llXky)

    54 CA will be broke, its economy in ruins, Leftists cheerfully ruling over the ashes, but hey, it will have a REALLY NICE HSR!!! Unlike those hicks in TX!!,

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:49 AM (LwmLF)

    55 But far too many people - and I mean my allies - take uncritically the history they've heard.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM

    Just look at all the lies that have been pushed by "historians" and "journalists" and politicians and "teachers" and "professors" just in our lifetime. Now expand that out over thousands of years and who knows how many things have been distorted and changed and lied about through the years by who knows how many people for who knows what power gain.

    In 50-100 years, what will be the historical account of the Plandemic? Will the actual facts be passed down through history or will all the lies be passed down. Time will tell. But I have thought about this a lot over the past 4 years, how much we cannot trust "experts" on anything anymore. And who knows how far that should go back in history.

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:50 AM (P5BPp)

    56 CA HSR will never be completed.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:50 AM (R4t5M)

    57 It'll be a life-sized toy train

    they have light rail here- it cut neighborhoods in half-
    when I'm stopped at a light rail Xing and the train goes by, it is mostly empty

    but I'm sure all the right people got paid during construction

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:51 AM (/7KEl)

    58 And when you were 18, there were constipated grizzled old shits sitting on their asses talking about how you were not worth a damn. Some things do not change; we all just have to wait our turn.

    Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 04, 2024 11:51 AM (zdLoL)

    59 Posted by: Don Black

    They were all elected so they are in Sacramento.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 11:52 AM (psNWM)

    60 But I have thought about this a lot over the past 4 years, how much we cannot trust "experts" on anything anymore. And who knows how far that should go back in history.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:50 AM (P5BPp)

    Further back than most of the public is aware of.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:52 AM (R4t5M)

    61 The thing is that all history is, or at least ought to be, debate. There is no such thing as an historian who doesn't distort. Now, that doesn't mean Zinn isn't dishonest; he is.

    But far too many people - and I mean my allies - take uncritically the history they've heard.
    Posted by: Eeyore at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (1bNHn)

    That's an uncomfortable topic, including here at the ol' AoSHQ. Lots of people have their minds made up about things, including the past, and whenever something gets introduced that might contradict the running narratives in their heads, they get real mad.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:52 AM (Mrjew)

    62 they have light rail here- it cut neighborhoods in half-

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:51 AM (/7KEl)

    sounds....rayciss

    Posted by: BignJames at May 04, 2024 11:53 AM (AwYPR)

    63 Is it just me, or is there a connection between the silliness happening around the world, and the fact that people with names like Amjad work for the CIA?
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (98dBG)

    Ahmedinijihad im the original Orkish. Got shortened at Ellis Island.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 11:53 AM (8zz6B)

    64 ***that plan to build a floating bridge to deliver food to Hamas?***
    ----------------

    It may have a Nord Stream axe-a-dent

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:53 AM (lCWOD)

    65 >That's an uncomfortable topic, including here at the ol' AoSHQ. Lots of people have their minds made up about things, including the past, and whenever something gets introduced that might contradict the running narratives in their heads, they get real mad.
    ---

    examples:
    the Civil War (even what to call it)
    the atomic bombings of 1945
    JFK/Dallas

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:55 AM (/7KEl)

    66 >>>Reports are circulating that the Israelis are planning an operation in Rafah to eliminate the last Hamas stronghold in Gaza.
    ----------------

    That's an understatement. Bibi said, you've got a week then we blow it up.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:56 AM (lCWOD)

    67 In 50-100 years, what will be the historical account of the Plandemic? Will the actual facts be passed down through history or will all the lies be passed down. Time will tell. But I have thought about this a lot over the past 4 years, how much we cannot trust "experts" on anything anymore. And who knows how far that should go back in history.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:50 AM (P5BPp)
    ---
    I'm going to say the 1990s. The World War II generation was much more serious than the Boomers and it was still acceptable at that time to challenge the government and publicly express skepticism of experts. Colleges hosted vigorous debates and academia had not yet been completely corrupted. There were still a bunch of curmudgeonly profs who reveled in pissing off feminists.

    When the HR people started to take control of the faculty and the Boomers brought their situational ethics into government, things started to slide.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:56 AM (llXky)

    68 But I have thought about this a lot over the past 4 years, how much we cannot trust "experts" on anything anymore. And who knows how far that should go back in history.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:50 AM (P5BPp)

    Further back than most of the public is aware of.
    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:52 AM (R4t5M)

    I haven't yet found anything I've looked into, from the near or distant past, that isn't distorted, in terms of the running narrative.

    So if you take a statement like "the civil war was about slavery," it ought to be possible to realize on its face it can't be as simple as that. But if you start throwing out other facts that might contradict that statement, people get angry. Real angry.

    Or try starting with "we had to drop those bombs on Japan" and then offer some other views, watch what happens.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:57 AM (Mrjew)

    69 I mentioned this earlier; the pro-Islamic "kids" playing occupier at school are a dead end generation. The teenagers coming up right behind them will run roughshod over them in about 5 years. They'll never know what hit them as they lay bitching and moaning in the road at their latest protest.

    The generation coming up just behind these infantile little shits smells blood. Kids can be ruthless little fuckers when they want to.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:58 AM (Q4IgG)

    70 >sounds....rayciss

    Posted by: BignJames


    Imagine your town's street plan laid out in a nice E W N S grid-
    you can get from Here to There so many different ways-

    now cut it in half, east to west

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:58 AM (/7KEl)

    71 The infantilization of young adults over the past 10-20 years has always grated on me. They do it in sports all the time. College sports and even professional sports. Calling everyone "kids". Young adults in their early 20s are called "kids". The whole "let the kids play" movement in MLB.

    It's all easy to understand if you think of it that "Marxism" or whatever label is a selling tool, and the political movements using it are funded by the upper class. The goal is to depower and neuter those of classes below then so their own children face little competition for the positions of power. Steer all the other children into dysfunction and incompetence.

    Posted by: Azjaeger at May 04, 2024 11:58 AM (q7BoT)

    72 Israeli official denies Hamas claims: Israel will not agree to end Gaza war as part of hostage deal, IDF will go into Rafah to demolish Hamas battalions in city. via @N12News
    Quote
    Israel Radar
    @IsraelRadar_com
    ·
    8h
    Senior Hamas source tells @N12News group agrees to advance to 1st stage of hostage deal; source says US pledges to ensure full IDF withdrawal from Gaza after deal is completed (in 124 days), end of war, no Rafah operation. No confirmation from Israel so far.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 11:59 AM (t/2Uw)

    73 That's an uncomfortable topic, including here at the ol' AoSHQ. Lots of people have their minds made up about things, including the past, and whenever something gets introduced that might contradict the running narratives in their heads, they get real mad.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:52 AM (Mrjew)
    ---
    It depends on what's being looked at and whether the people are out to convince or shut down.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:59 AM (llXky)

    74 Stop trying to make everyone happy.
    You're not tequila.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 11:59 AM (dg+HA)

    75 US pledges to ensure....

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 12:00 PM (t/2Uw)

    76 Is it just me, or is there a connection between the silliness happening around the world, and the fact that people with names like Amjad work for the CIA?
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (98dBG)

    Ahmedinijihad im the original Orkish. Got shortened at Ellis Island.
    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 11:53 AM (8zz6B)

    Heh, very possible. The guy's full name is Arab or Persian, or one of those swarthy ethnicities.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:00 PM (Mrjew)

    77 >The infantilization of young adults over the past 10-20 years has always grated on me.
    ---

    Hallowe'en

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:00 PM (/7KEl)

    78 That's an uncomfortable topic, including here at the ol' AoSHQ. Lots of people have their minds made up about things, including the past, and whenever something gets introduced that might contradict the running narratives in their heads, they get real mad.
    ---

    examples:
    the Civil War (even what to call it)
    the atomic bombings of 1945
    JFK/Dallas


    Longbows

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 12:00 PM (CsUN+)

    79 The best quote from Orwell which I always remember.

    "Every intelligent boy of sixteen is a Socialist. At that age one does not see the hook sticking out of the rather stodgy bait."

    Stodgy. Bait. I did not know George had met Hillary Clinton.

    Anything "Phree" which dumbasses run to grab, then the hook, right up the crack of their asses.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 12:01 PM (R/m4+)

    80 77 Thirty year old guy at the comic book store.

    Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2024 12:01 PM (V5eKu)

    81 examples:
    the Civil War (even what to call it)
    the atomic bombings of 1945
    JFK/Dallas
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 11:55 AM (/7KEl)

    So if you take a statement like "the civil war was about slavery," it ought to be possible to realize on its face it can't be as simple as that. But if you start throwing out other facts that might contradict that statement, people get angry. Real angry.

    Or try starting with "we had to drop those bombs on Japan" and then offer some other views, watch what happens.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:57 AM (Mrjew)

    GET OUT OF MY HEAD.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:01 PM (Mrjew)

    82 Hello all, good post K.T. Despite the fact that Communist in Spain put a death sentence on Orwell and he wrote about it in An Homage to Catalonia he could never walk away from being a Social Democrat. That's at best communism lite. He couldn't bring himself to say that Communism is just fascism but with dogma

    Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 04, 2024 12:02 PM (5S+sK)

    83 It depends on what's being looked at and whether the people are out to convince or shut down.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:59 AM (llXky)

    Sure, but what's very obvious is there are some things that will get attacked, no matter what the intent of the commenter.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:03 PM (Mrjew)

    84 So if you take a statement like "the civil war was about slavery," it ought to be possible to realize on its face it can't be as simple as that. But if you start throwing out other facts that might contradict that statement, people get angry. Real angry.

    Or try starting with "we had to drop those bombs on Japan" and then offer some other views, watch what happens.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:57 AM (Mrjew)
    ---
    The problem with the ACW is that people weight the issues different morally. A lot of folks consider slavery something of a show-stopper. Part of a reasoned discussion is accepting that this is a moral, not a factual thing, and therefore not subject to argumentation.

    With the A-bomb, the difficulty is that everyone has their own favorite counterfactual, which may or may not be based on the facts at the time. There's also the same moral abhorrence of the bomb itself, which closes off any discussion.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:03 PM (llXky)

    85 I was happy the US dropped the atomic bombs on those dirty Jap bastids.

    Burp....

    Posted by: Godzilla, Jap Eater and Egg Fertilizer at May 04, 2024 12:05 PM (R/m4+)

    86 I may have even stated one such debate right here

    I can see the first few curls of smoke...

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:05 PM (/7KEl)

    87 Dems have been fully in charge in CA since Pete Wilson retired...

    Well tekkkknically...

    Posted by: Ahnuld at May 04, 2024 12:05 PM (l2YDv)

    88 @56

    >>CA HSR will never be completed.

    The Forever Project is a cousin of Forever War, there nerver meant to deliver anything other then endless stream of taxpayer lucre to the well connected.

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (XV/Pl)

    89 Why no chicken?

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (bo7UB)

    90 74 Stop trying to make everyone happy.
    You're not tequila.
    Posted by: Quarter Twenty

    Or a taco.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (t1jwT)

    91 Hello all, good post K.T. Despite the fact that Communist in Spain put a death sentence on Orwell and he wrote about it in An Homage to Catalonia he could never walk away from being a Social Democrat. That's at best communism lite. He couldn't bring himself to say that Communism is just fascism but with dogma
    Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 04, 2024 12:02 PM (5S+sK)
    ---
    A lot of leftist find the notion of social justice so compelling that they have convinced themselves that there is some intermediate point where one can just stop and go no further. We're actually find the same with classical liberaliism.

    Lots of paths lead to tyranny.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:07 PM (llXky)

    92 40 38 Florida has high speed rail between Miami and Orlando. Another example of Florida showing what is possible if you really want to get something done.
    Posted by: Florida Putting Up the Ws at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (0Gsdq)

    IIRC privately funded.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

    Even better!

    Posted by: Ron Desanctimonius for the W at May 04, 2024 12:08 PM (Eqssc)

    93 where are the rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists?
    Posted by: Don Black

    Oh - most of them I knew settled into Echo Co., 2BN, 7th Marines.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 12:08 PM (WXNFJ)

    94 examples:
    the Civil War (even what to call it)
    the atomic bombings of 1945
    JFK/Dallas

    Longbows
    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 12:00 PM (CsUN+)

    Maryann or Ginger.

    Posted by: Gilligan at May 04, 2024 12:09 PM (iODuv)

    95 The literatti are over analyzing the Israeli / terrorist conflict.

    If one comes across a clump of feces in his yard he need not analyze it, make determinations how or why it got there or the effects of the sun upon it or anything else. It is a pile of sh*t and it is to be disposed of. That is all.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:09 PM (lCWOD)

    96 My take away from my reading in Nehemiah this morning was "build and battle". Of course this is referring to rebuilding the wall of Jerusalem. It is difficult to do both, it would be easier to focus on either one separately.

    In times of peace and prosperity there is a lot of building going on, but if we aren't battling at the same time, we end up where we are now in the US, with abundance of materials and shortage of wisdom.

    We weren't vigilant in the battle for God's Truth, we didn't "battle" for it, and as a country we have mostly lost it.

    Moral of the story: building and battling are constantly needed in life.

    Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 04, 2024 12:10 PM (S5+ge)

    97 Sure, but what's very obvious is there are some things that will get attacked, no matter what the intent of the commenter.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:03 PM (Mrjew)
    ---
    A friend of mine is something of a Confederate apologist, and we had a discussion via email about it. It wasn't a debate, because we are both set in our opinions, mostly just a statement of position, and we tested each other a bit, but we didn't let things get out of hand.

    I think something that most people ignore is the road untraveled, that would have made the South's case much stronger: South Carolina could have requested an Article 5 convention of the states to address a process for secession. How that would have worked out, I'm not sure, but I personally would be more sympathetic to the South if that attempt had been made.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:10 PM (llXky)

    98 Ahem. The War Between The States.

    Posted by: There was nothing civil about it at May 04, 2024 12:11 PM (dg+HA)

    99 Ahem. The War Between The States.

    ----------

    The Current Unpleasantness

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:11 PM (bo7UB)

    100 That's a bridge of size!

    Posted by: Robin Troweller at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (63Dwl)

    101

    Have a bunch of smelly men grab your daughters.

    Smash you daughter's teeth out with rifle butts, so they can't bite down.

    Three hole gang rape them.

    When everyone is done and satisfied, found me through the vagina into the floor.

    Free Palestine!

    Posted by: Hamas is Great! at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (Zp/r5)

    102 The Forever Project is a cousin of Forever War, there nerver meant to deliver anything other then endless stream of taxpayer lucre to the well connected.
    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (XV/Pl)
    ---
    Cathedrals are like this, but at least you get something beautiful (and usually without tax dollars).

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (llXky)

    103 I listened the other day to Tucker's interview with the fella they call "Pootin's brain." Well, half listened.

    Some takeaways: I think the guy was soft-pedaling his views there, and Tucker set it up to allow him to by saying they wouldn't talk about politics.

    Second, it sure does say something meaningful, not about him but about us, when you can't find his books for sale in this country.

    And C: There is something intriguing about his theory that liberal democracies always become corrupt, devolve into fascist states (my term, not his), ruled by elites.

    But I'm sure there's something he's said at some point that can be tightened up into a neat narrative, to justify condemning him and keep us rubes from having access to his actual words.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (fdD2n)

    104 I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.

    Posted by: Mary Ann at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (dg+HA)

    105 The War Of Southern Intransigence

    ?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:13 PM (/7KEl)

    106 As my mother used to refer to it; "the infamous war of northern aggression."

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)

    107 And C: There is something intriguing about his theory that liberal democracies always become corrupt, devolve into fascist states (my term, not his), ruled by elites.

    But I'm sure there's something he's said at some point that can be tightened up into a neat narrative, to justify condemning him and keep us rubes from having access to his actual words.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (fdD2n)
    ---
    The idea that republics degenerate into democracies and then tyranny is pretty old - and well proven.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:14 PM (llXky)

    108 I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.
    Posted by: Mary Ann at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (dg+HA)

    She's a pretty good cook, sittin' on her groceries. (Joni Mitchell)

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 12:15 PM (8zz6B)

    109 The Forever Project is a cousin of Forever War, there nerver meant to deliver anything other then endless stream of taxpayer lucre to the well connected.
    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (XV/Pl)

    "Solving the homeless problem" enters the chat.

    Quickly followed by the stream of strapping young lads crossing the southern border.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:15 PM (fdD2n)

    110 I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.
    Posted by: Mary Ann at May 04, 2024 12:12 PM (dg+HA)

    I'll learn to cook.

    Posted by: Gilligan at May 04, 2024 12:16 PM (iODuv)

    111 Tacos and tequila, sounds like an excellent lunch idea.

    Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 04, 2024 12:16 PM (S5+ge)

    112
    Well tekkkknically...
    Posted by: Ahnuld

    No.
    He was raised in Europe ergo he was and is a socialist.
    It doesn't matter how he represented himself.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 12:16 PM (psNWM)

    113 109 The Forever Project is a cousin of Forever War, there nerver meant to deliver anything other then endless stream of taxpayer lucre to the well connected.
    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (XV/Pl)

    ----------

    The cynicism I see here is concerning.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:17 PM (bo7UB)

    114 Moral of the story: building and battling are constantly needed in life.
    Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 04, 2024 12:10 PM (S5+ge)

    Thanks AK. Nehemiah is one of my favorite figures in the Bible. He was a doer and didn’t put up with nonsense

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 12:17 PM (+r3lU)

    115 Ahem. The War Between The States.
    Posted by: There was nothing civil about it at May 04, 2024 12:11 PM (dg+HA)

    Ahem !

    The war AMONG the States !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 12:18 PM (T4tVD)

    116 As my mother used to refer to it; "the infamous war of northern aggression."
    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)
    ---
    One of my ancestors was very proud of his Southern sympathies, and claimed to have been personally robbed by Benjamin Butler during the occupation of New Orleans.

    He was also Jewish, which really throws a wrench into the conventional "the Confederacy was all bigots" narrative.

    Well, that and Judah P. Benjamin's existance.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:19 PM (llXky)

    117
    'The troubles'

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:19 PM (/7KEl)

    118
    OT
    Back from the urgent care doctor. Tested negative for flu, strep, and covid. Doc says it's either a nasty rhinovirus, or acute sinusitis. I'm prone to sinus infections, with three major surgeries up there, Smash amd Junior-ette are not unwell.

    Yeah. Sinusitis. Antibiotics should begin kicking in this evening.

    BP was great at the clinic. 132/86 pulse rate was 82, oxygen saturation was 99%.

    Stooopid Bewalski sinus genes.

    Thank you all for any prayers last night.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 12:21 PM (MsrgL)

    119 I think something that most people ignore is the road untraveled, that would have made the South's case much stronger: South Carolina could have requested an Article 5 convention of the states to address a process for secession. How that would have worked out, I'm not sure, but I personally would be more sympathetic to the South if that attempt had been made.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:10 PM (llXky)

    I tend to start with the premise that people are gonna do what they're gonna do, so I don't much care for the whole process of looking for alternate histories.

    So what I end up doing, when I take the time, and don't just jump to my own biased conclusions, is pay attention to "both sides" of arguments, and end up believing most people involved were genuinely of the belief they were in the right. Not just right, because they wouldn't do it, but in the right, in the sense that their position is morally superior.

    You can even do that as a mental exercise with the worst of the worst in history, but as soon as you do, you touch a "third rail" for people, so you have to be careful.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:22 PM (JgqvA)

    120 I gave Israel's Eurovision song 2 stars. Enter a good song and I'll give it 5.

    Azerbaijan got 5 from me, as did France. Most got 2. A couple got 1.

    So far only made it to Israel's on the alphabetical list.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 12:22 PM (/QIWP)

    121 They said mob rule is the way you gotta be,
    so they rigged up the votes for liberal democracy.
    - J. Klampetski

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 12:22 PM (o2ZRX)

    122 What made Eric Blair so good was the fact that he embraced totalitarianism at a young age but turned his back on it later, letting totalitarianism have it with both barrels with Animal Farm and 1984, precisely because he knew and understood how they worked.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:35 AM (LwmLF)
    -----------
    He was only 46 when he died. I have often wondered if he would have turned his back on socialism had he lived longer.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:22 PM (Be/+i)

    123 far too many people - and I mean my allies - take uncritically the history they've heard.

    First hand sources are good, even then, one will need to be aware of the author's bias.

    Trust has been so eroded now, that I could be shown "proof" against my understanding of history and I would question the source and validity of the "proof".

    Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 04, 2024 12:23 PM (S5+ge)

    124 Most of the Eurovision songs so far are unlistenable blackified rave techno music garbage.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 12:24 PM (/QIWP)

    125 The idea that republics degenerate into democracies and then tyranny is pretty old - and well proven.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 12:14 PM (llXky)

    Obviously there's more to it than that, and what I'm saying is, I'd like to hear more about his theory, rather than that one line summary. But we're not allowed to hear more, because he's bad, and Pootin's brain, and a monster and a crook and a liar and cheats at golf.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:25 PM (JgqvA)

    126 I don’t mind hearing positions I disagree with, as long as it’s not beyond the pale. I’m not gonna listen to some yahoo tell me how actually Hitler was a good guy and the Holocaust is a myth…. But I’ve seen cogent arguments here about how Abe Lincoln was a bit of a tyrant (suspended habeas corpus etc)… I learned stuff, but in the end I still think Lincoln was a great man and indispensable to our history. Did he make mistakes? Of course…. But considering who he was dealing with on the other side, I don’t know what he was supposed to do: just let the southern states walk away? I don’t think our subsequent history would’ve been very good if he’d done that

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 12:25 PM (+r3lU)

    127 Zinn wrote that internment camps for Japanese Americans during World War II were kept secret. "Not until after the war did the story of the Japanese-Americans begin to be known to the general public," he wrote in Chapter 16. In fact, numerous newspapers and magazines wrote about the camps at the time, quite a few editorializing in favor of them.

    -
    My mother lived near a Japanese internment camp near Lamar, Colorado. She told me camp's high school sports teams competed with the surrounding area high school sports teams and the camp would hold festivals to which the townspeople were invited. So it was just like Auschwitz.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)

    128
    ***All In with Chris Hayes***

    It's all theater. The protests and the police confrontation is all theater. At UCLA, from 10AM in the morning 'students' began
    assembling their barricades. No cops were there only news crews. By dark the fortifications were complete and the festivities behind them began and cops began gathering on the lawn.

    This party on one side and gathering of cops on the other continued until 3:30AM when the cops were ordered to stop it.
    Theater. Cops could have gone in at 10AM, torn down the flimsy and arrested them all. There would have been no mass event.

    Both sides wanted a mass event.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:26 PM (lCWOD)

    129 Thanks for the conversations.

    I must away.

    Peace

    Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 04, 2024 12:28 PM (S5+ge)

    130 *Both sides wanted a mass event.*

    We need the ratings.

    Posted by: Media suits at May 04, 2024 12:29 PM (dg+HA)

    131 History will always be 'debatable' in some ways

    there's the record of what actually happened- the who what when where why how-

    and then there are all the little details around the edges

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:29 PM (/7KEl)

    132 >>Damon said Zinn was his neighbor and his mom taught with him or some such shit. Who knows? The lies these assholes spew never ends.


    Damon gave Zinn a shout out in Good Will Hunting. He and Affleck are both textbood Cambridge leftists.

    They know everything and everything they know is wrong.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 12:29 PM (LkLld)

    133 I suspect that the purpose of that High Speed Railway was to put much of that 11 billion dollars in the appropriate pockets of Inner Party members, rather than mass transit.

    Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 04, 2024 12:29 PM (pJWtt)

    134 Damon gave Zinn a shout out in Good Will Hunting. He and Affleck are both textbood Cambridge leftists.
    ------------
    Well, you could use it as an example of uncritical autodidacticism.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:30 PM (Be/+i)

    135 my boy is wicked smaht

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:31 PM (/7KEl)

    136 First hand sources are good, even then, one will need to be aware of the author's bias.

    Trust has been so eroded now, that I could be shown "proof" against my understanding of history and I would question the source and validity of the "proof".
    Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 04, 2024 12:23 PM (S5+ge)

    Longstreet famously wrote an unreadable autobio on his experiences during the war.

    When he got to Gettysburg (in the story, I mean, not physically got there), he was well aware of how much he was being blamed for it, so what he wrote is a very technical play by play of what was happening. I suspect it was about as accurate as anything anyone has written on the subject, but... unreadable.

    So the narrative goes on. Longstreet F'd up at Gettysburg.

    Even if he didn't.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:31 PM (9b7L5)

    137 Theater. Cops could have gone in at 10AM, torn down the flimsy and arrested them all. There would have been no mass event.

    Both sides wanted a mass event.
    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:26 PM

    Agreed. Anonymous Conservative suggested this morning that this is all just a script to explain Biden losing. Hence all the stories about how the Democrats are panicking because of all the backlash against these protests among the normal people.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 12:32 PM (/QIWP)

    138 As my mother used to refer to it; "the infamous war of northern aggression."
    Posted by: Martini Farmer
    ------
    Col. John Henry Thomas: [Thomas has just learned that the war ended several days before] Major, I've just received word that Lee surrendered to Grant three days ago.
    Maj. Sanders, CSA:Yes, sir.
    Col. John Henry Thomas: You knew it?
    Maj. Sanders, CSA: We received the news yesterday.
    Col. John Henry Thomas:I don't think you understand, Major, the war is over.
    Maj. Sanders, CSA: NO, sir.
    Col. John Henry Thomas: Are you telling me that you intend to keep fighting?
    Maj. Sanders, CSA: Haven't we just proven it, sir?
    Col. John Henry Thomas: But why?
    Maj. Sanders, CSA:
    Because this is our land, and you're on it.
    Col. John Henry Thomas: We're all Americans.
    Maj. Sanders, CSA: Yes, sir... that's always been the saddest part of it.
    Col. John Henry Thomas: Good day, sir.
    Maj. Sanders, CSA: Colonel, thank you for your courtesy.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 12:32 PM (MsrgL)

    139 Longstreet famously wrote an unreadable autobio on his experiences during the war.
    -----------
    Huh. His articles in "Battles and Leaders" are very readable.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:33 PM (Be/+i)

    140 Taq, The Eurovision thing is being held in Malmo Sweden, close to a nogo zone due to Muslim migration. The Israeli singer requires a security detail, told not to leave her hotel room and Israelis have been warned to stay away. The idea was to vote for Israel in support and not because it was the best song. I really don;t care what song wins. I just don't want the antisemitic assholes to getaway with impacting the situation.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 12:33 PM (t/2Uw)

    141 The war is coming from inside the house!

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 12:33 PM (63Dwl)

    142 >So the narrative goes on. Longstreet F'd up at Gettysburg.

    Even if he didn't.
    ---


    whose idea was it to walk up that hill, right into the Union artillery?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:33 PM (/7KEl)

    143 My mother lived near a Japanese internment camp near Lamar, Colorado. She told me camp's high school sports teams competed with the surrounding area high school sports teams and the camp would hold festivals to which the townspeople were invited. So it was just like Auschwitz.
    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)

    I've been to Lamar. That's got to be the most interesting thing I've ever heard about Lamar.

    Lamar might not be the most boring place in the country, but it's on the spectrum.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:35 PM (9b7L5)

    144 To be frank I’m tired of the talking and attempts to take reasonable actions against unreasonable people. These mentally defective fascists are proving the saying that capitalists will sell you the rope to hang them with.

    Allowing partisan NYC party DAs to prosecute a person being blackmailed instead of the blackmailer is surreal and much more in that it’s a former President.

    Protests in support of torturers and rapist terrorists goes beyond anything that should be allowed . It’s not free speech to chant death to America . It’s a threat to every American loving citizen. It’s one of the few Constitutional responsibilities of the government is to defend America not to protect those that look to destroy it.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:35 PM (MNhXM)

    145 Well, Sharon, I hope you get your wish. My 2 stars was only an opinion poll, not the voting itself, and was for the quality of the music, not for the politics.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 12:35 PM (/QIWP)

    146 ... Zinn wrote that internment camps for Japanese Americans during World War II were kept secret. "Not until after the war did the story of the Japanese-Americans begin to be known to the general public," he wrote in Chapter 16. In fact, numerous newspapers and magazines wrote about the camps at the time, quite a few editorializing in favor of them.
    ========================

    Was in Hawaii during VoJ 50th... (1995)
    They had a lot of WWII generation still alive and a lot of articles about life as a Japanese-American during WWII.
    As much as some people like to pick on FDR for the internment it is much simplier than simple racism - Do to Japanese cultural and legal practices (in Japan) they are really the first notable group to go out of their way for duel-citizenship. They had consulates to register their grandchildren as Japanese citizens.
    IOW they were Japanese citizens living in the US during a war, or minor children not yet registered accompanied their parents.
    Internment camps were initial set up for those that failed to leave exclusion zones (rather than putting them all in POW camps like Japan did to their Anglos). They could leave and actually had job boards (Ansel Adams)*

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 12:36 PM (cOq4q)

    147 Uncritical Autodidacticism opened to great fanfare on Broadway but was quickly panned by critics for it's uninspired plot, mediocre talent, shabby sets and flaccid score. It closed in two weeks.

    Posted by: Snooty New York reporter at May 04, 2024 12:36 PM (dg+HA)

    148 Lana Trump's cover of Tom Petty was also garbage. I don't care who she is, that was a horrible cover, and I'm not about to pretend otherwise because I'm supposed to support the good MAGA people.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (/QIWP)

    149
    Anonymous Conservative suggested this morning that this is all just a script to explain Biden losing. Hence all the stories about how the Democrats are panicking because of all the backlash against these protests among the normal people.
    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus


    There are still six months to go. Lots of time for Many Manufactured Miracles.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

    150 Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 12:32 PM (MsrgL)
    That’s it right there, brother.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (o2ZRX)

    151 One of the ten mental defects common in all Leftists is the total inability to make logical comparisons.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (MNhXM)

    152 examples:
    the Civil War (even what to call it)
    the atomic bombings of 1945
    JFK/Dallas

    Longbows
    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 12:00 PM (CsUN+)

    Maryann or Ginger.
    Posted by: Gilligan

    Betty or Veronica.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (L/fGl)

    153 Uncritical Autodidacticism opened to great fanfare on Broadway but was quickly panned by critics for it's uninspired plot, mediocre talent, shabby sets and flaccid score. It closed in two weeks.
    Posted by: Snooty New York reporter at May 04, 2024 12:36 PM (dg+HA)
    ----------
    As one would expect.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:38 PM (Be/+i)

    154 Feel better, Bif! I have sinus problems but have it kinda under control with 3 bottles of saline solution up my nose 2X per day mixed with a couple of compound meds, one sinus surgery so far, ear tubes, and decongestants and Tylenol to assist with 3X or so weekly sinus headaches. Sinus infections each time I visit my ENT which once triggered a cough that led to a spot on my lung that in turn led to a full body pet scan to make sure I didn't have cancer.

    Anyway, sorry to complain, I have a wonderful life, but just wanted to let a fellow moron know I hear you loud and clear. Well, not real loud and clear cause sinus stuff impacts that too, but hope you feel better soon!



    Posted by: RM at May 04, 2024 12:38 PM (urbih)

    155 Longstreet famously wrote an unreadable autobio on his experiences during the war.
    -----------
    Huh. His articles in "Battles and Leaders" are very readable.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:33 PM (Be/+i)

    Yes, he's a talented writer, but by the time he got around to writing his play by play, he was under attack. He was very much being blamed, almost entirely, for the South's loss in the entire war. By those in the South, of course.

    So he wrote in exquisite detail, every damn thing that happened on the ground, and there's a lot of technical jargon used, how this unit was here, that one was there, and they moved this way, and the other one was doing that, while this one was doing this.

    I'm sure it's quite accurate. But try following what he's saying in your head. You can't. I can't, that's for sure. I don't really believe anyone can.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:39 PM (9b7L5)

    156 Lana Trump's cover of Tom Petty was also garbage.
    ----------
    Which song?

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:39 PM (Be/+i)

    157 when in doubt, go with the brunette

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:40 PM (/7KEl)

    158 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 12:36 PM (cOq4q)

    What people still don’t know is that a lot of Germans living on the east coast were also interned .

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:40 PM (MNhXM)

    159 >>>I think something that most people ignore is the road untraveled, that would have made the South's case much stronger: South Carolina could have requested an Article 5 convention of the states to address a process for secession. How that would have worked out, I'm not sure, but I personally would be more sympathetic to the South if that attempt had been made.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
    ---------------------------------

    I missed the part about the Civil War in K.T.'s presentation.
    But it was brought up and distracted from her work.
    Trying to allay the disruption a commenter once said, 'If the South's politicians were as good as its generals there would have been no war'. However, it did not calm the waters, it became another point of contention and smart assery.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:40 PM (lCWOD)

    160 whose idea was it to walk up that hill, right into the Union artillery?
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:33 PM (/7KEl)

    It was mine, dammit! Alright??

    It was me, I did it, I ordered the Code Red.

    I'm not out of order, YOU'RE out of order!!

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:41 PM (9b7L5)

    161 Wonder if Portland State wishes that Bruce Gilley and Peter Boghossian were still its big problems?

    The recently-occupied Portland State University library is closed until fall - the "occupiers" disabled all the fire protection systems in the library so they could smoke, among other things. They also stole tens of thousands of dollars in rare books and comics.

    Not to worry, the craven president of PSU is still going ahead with the "Boeing Forum", which will determine if Boeing is moral enough to be able to continue to contribute a considerable amount of money for scholarships at the school (really).

    If Boeing is judged not worthy, I assume that PSU will deny reimbursement for faculty and staff for any travel on Boeing aircraft.

    After all, flying on a Boeing aircraft is being complicit in genocide.

    Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at May 04, 2024 12:41 PM (uxCna)

    162 Betty or Veronica.
    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (L/fGl)

    BOTH!! In the shower.

    Posted by: Archie at May 04, 2024 12:41 PM (iODuv)

    163 Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 12:32 PM (MsrgL)
    That’s it right there, brother.

    Posted by: Eromero

    Thank you, Sir. Not that great of a movie, but that scene and those lines have stuck with me since i saw it the drive in, in Natchitoches, LA.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 12:42 PM (MsrgL)

    164 156 Lana Trump's cover of Tom Petty was also garbage.
    ----------
    Which song?
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea

    It was an autotuned country-fied cover of "Won't Back Down".

    TGP and all the usual diehards praised it as amazing, of course. We're supposed to pretend. Like putting a child's painting up on the fridge.

    Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at May 04, 2024 12:42 PM (/QIWP)

    165 * But there was one or two internment camps for those Japanese-Americans who renounced US citizenship, or affirmatively supported Jpaan. They could not leave...
    And Hawaii was under martial law until the last month or two of the war. The did catch spies who were simply taken into military custody and sent to the mainland. This is why "no Japanese-American was ever convicted of espionage in WWII".
    Sabatours, admittedly very few, were simply killed in the act.

    Italains and Germans on the east coast had some issues and relocations too. But they didn't maintain motherland citiczenship.

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 12:42 PM (cOq4q)

    166 146 A good friend I served with in Vietnam was Japanese American (Sansei?). His Dad worked for Ford at "the Rouge" when I visited in the early 70s. The family was interned during the war, but he went to a job every day outside the gates as a draftsman. At the time, probably contributing to the war effort. And not being paid in funny money like some in Europe.

    Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2024 12:43 PM (V5eKu)

    167 157 when in doubt, go with the brunette
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:40 PM (/7KEl)

    This is a man of class and taste.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 12:43 PM (Ds3Rc)

    168 They know everything and everything they know is wrong.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 12:29 PM (LkLld)

    The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so. —-RR

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:44 PM (MNhXM)

    169 Posted by: RM

    Thank you! Prayers up for light duty and any future ailmemts as easy to get past.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 04, 2024 12:45 PM (MsrgL)

    170 Before I go a nd try to find something to do on this rainy day..
    I a a Blues fan. I listened to the Louis Armstrong post and realized that I am a Blues fan when it is guitars. Although I appreciated the piece, it just did not have the smooth rhythem I associate with the Blues.

    https://tinyurl.com/mw8t7a7u

    BB King

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)

    171 It was an autotuned country-fied cover of "Won't Back Down".
    -----------
    Yuch.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:45 PM (Be/+i)

    172 There are still six months to go. Lots of time for Many Manufactured Miracles.
    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

    Weather's warming up, time for the "mostly peaceful" space to destroy festivals.

    All we need is a two first name black dude to get killed, so we can get it on.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:46 PM (9b7L5)

    173 Hey California, how's all those new cases of TB working out for ya?

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 12:46 PM (W/lyH)

    174 when in doubt, go with the brunette
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:40 PM (/7KEl)

    My exception to that rule. Heather Graham.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:47 PM (MNhXM)

    175 When he got to Gettysburg . . .

    -
    I saw a very interesting bio on Michael Shaara, author of The Killer Angels upon which the movie Gettysburg was based. Rather a tragedy, he had a bitter falling out with his son Jeff. They never reconciled. He also divorced his wife although their relationship continued as before. In fairness, he had suffered a severe head injury.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:48 PM (L/fGl)

    176 Good afternoon everyone
    Trying to reach a good quitting point here

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 12:49 PM (3xsh4)

    177 >>What people still don’t know is that a lot of Germans living on the east coast were also interned .


    My town was basically a Navy base in WWII complete with a German POW camp. The park I take Elvis to walk in was used to gaurd the west passage of the bay and the other side had both gun emplacements and sub catchers to gaurd the east side.

    One of the last German sub sunk in WWII and the last sunk in US waters is off the coast of RI. There was reason to take precautions against enemy infiltrators.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 12:49 PM (LkLld)

    178 CA HSR will never be completed.

    The Forever Project is a cousin of Forever War, there nerver meant to deliver anything other then endless stream of taxpayer lucre to the well connected.


    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM

    We like to mock California for the failure of these projects, but it's actually very depressing. Considering places like China and Japan have accomplished their own high speed rail systems in *much* tougher environments and terrain making the engineering that much more challenging.

    The United States used to be the world leader in this sort of technological advancement. The fact that places like California cannot achieve these things anymore is a prime example of how far the USA has fallen. It's nothing something to be mocked, but rather something of which to be ashamed.

    And I wonder if our nation going forward will have the technological skill in the population to lead the world in this stuff again in our lifetimes or if political corruption and indoctrination of DEI and "climate change" policies has ruined us going forward.

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 12:49 PM (P5BPp)

    179 45 Is it just me, or is there a connection between the silliness happening around the world, and the fact that people with names like Amjad work for the CIA?
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (98dBG)


    Hey!
    That's Agent XXX Amjad to you, mister!

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 12:49 PM (W/lyH)

    180 But I’ve seen cogent arguments here about how Abe Lincoln was a bit of a tyrant (suspended habeas corpus etc)… I learned stuff, but in the end I still think Lincoln was a great man and indispensable to our history. Did he make mistakes? Of course…. But considering who he was dealing with on the other side, I don’t know what he was supposed to do: just let the southern states walk away? I don’t think our subsequent history would’ve been very good if he’d done that
    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 12:25 PM (+r3lU)

    The #1 reason I cut Lincoln some slack is exactly that: what was he supposed to do, face secession and just say “oh, ok”? History would have seen him as a complete wuss. Of course, he was out to keep the Union cohesive and some are still pissed at him. He couldn’t win, really.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 12:50 PM (Ds3Rc)

    181 And I wonder if our nation going forward will have the technological skill in the population to lead the world in this stuff again in our lifetimes or if political corruption and indoctrination of DEI and "climate change" policies has ruined us going forward.
    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 12:49 PM (P5BPp)

    Or being hired based on who you know instead of silliness like WHAT you know.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 12:51 PM (Ds3Rc)

    182 What people still don’t know is that a lot of Germans living on the east coast were also interned .
    Posted by: polynikes

    That guy that (tried to) shoot up the National Holocaust Museum in DC (about twenty years ago)?

    Even then they were desperate to find a WASP engaged in terrorism and only (initially) published that he was a white WWII vet.
    When seeing that my first guess was that he was an old Bund member that was sent to the Pacific war.

    Later the details came out he was German-American and served in the Pacifc.

    US was more sensible then - Generall they didn't darft young men and send them into combat against the 'motherland'. Cousin against cousin can be taxing, and with the CW being recent enough.

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 12:51 PM (cOq4q)

    183 But I’ve seen cogent arguments here about how Abe Lincoln was a bit of a tyrant (suspended habeas corpus etc)… I learned stuff, but in the end I still think Lincoln was a great man and indispensable to our history. Did he make mistakes? Of course…. But considering who he was dealing with on the other side, I don’t know what he was supposed to do: just let the southern states walk away? I don’t think our subsequent history would’ve been very good if he’d done that
    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 12:25 PM (+r3lU)

    The #1 reason I cut Lincoln some slack is exactly that: what was he supposed to do, face secession and just say “oh, ok”? History would have seen him as a complete wuss. Of course, he was out to keep the Union cohesive and some are still pissed at him. He couldn’t win, really.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 12:50 PM (Ds3Rc)

    Sadly many Lincoln critics on the Right fall into the Presentism trap.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:52 PM (MNhXM)

    184 I saw a very interesting bio on Michael Shaara, author of The Killer Angels upon which the movie Gettysburg was based. Rather a tragedy, he had a bitter falling out with his son Jeff. They never reconciled. He also divorced his wife although their relationship continued as before. In fairness, he had suffered a severe head injury.
    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:48 PM (L/fGl)

    You know why they don't generally make movies about writers?

    Same reason leading men in romcoms are not fat, middle aged dudes.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:52 PM (9b7L5)

    185 $6,785,000 a foot

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 12:53 PM (3xsh4)

    186 You know why they don't generally make movies about writers?

    Same reason leading men in romcoms are not fat, middle aged dudes.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:52 PM (9b7L5)
    --------
    "Finding Forrester" is one of the few that leap to mind.

    And they got Sean Freaking Connery for that one.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:55 PM (Be/+i)

    187 Protests in support of torturers and rapist terrorists goes beyond anything that should be allowed . It’s not free speech to chant death to America . It’s a threat to every American loving citizen. It’s one of the few Constitutional responsibilities of the government is to defend America not to protect those that look to destroy it.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:35 PM (MNhXM)

    There is something to be said for people willing to pull their own pants down and show you exactly who they are. They’re shouting Death to America? Give them a megaphone and a spotlight so you know who not to engage in business with.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 12:55 PM (Ds3Rc)

    188 Is it just me, or is there a connection between the silliness happening around the world, and the fact that people with names like Amjad work for the CIA?
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (98dBG)

    Hey!
    That's Agent XXX Amjad to you, mister!
    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 12:49 PM (W/lyH)

    Oddly enough, I saw a supposedly objective statement recently, that hemmed and hawed on the subject of whether John Brennan converted to Islam.

    I don't know why that came to mind.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:55 PM (9b7L5)

    189 one mistake people make when talking about history, is they judge people of the past by the standards and ideas of the present

    if this is what you mean by presentism


    Like Hiroshima
    today, many people rightly fear the use of nuclear weapons-
    but in August 1945, to the people who had to decide, it made sense

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:56 PM (/7KEl)

    190 177 My Dad was an interrogator interpreter in the Finnish language during WW2, one of the Ritchie boys that never went to the old country, Finland having the "mutual combatant status". His principal duty was asking the rando Finn that came in (sunk merchant ship crewman, maybe Kriegsmarine) if they wanted to go see the cacti in AZ or get a cash paying job chopping lumber in the PNW. There's probably more than a few families out there that got started by Dad signing the travel orders.

    Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2024 12:57 PM (V5eKu)

    191 but in August 1945, to the people who had to decide, it made sense
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:56 PM (/7KEl)
    -----------
    End the war in a blow? With a weapon no one else has? Hell, yes.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:57 PM (Be/+i)

    192 Howard Zinn was a communist. How in the name of everything holy in fuckdom did we ever allow a communist to become the author of one of the most widely used history textbooks in our education system?


    Oh, I remember. It's because Jimmy Fucking Carter (Piss be Upon Him) established the Department of Education thus allowing the fucking communist worms in the government woodwork to brainwash our young.

    Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 04, 2024 12:57 PM (W6d+C)

    193
    https://tinyurl.com/mw8t7a7u
    BB King
    Posted by: sharon

    Thank you.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 12:57 PM (psNWM)

    194 if they wanted to go see the cacti in AZ or get a cash paying job chopping lumber in the PNW. There's probably more than a few families out there that got started by Dad signing the travel orders.
    Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2024 12:57 PM (V5eKu)
    -----------
    There's certainly a Finnish presence in Astoria.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:58 PM (Be/+i)

    195 "Finding Forrester" is one of the few that leap to mind.

    And they got Sean Freaking Connery for that one.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 12:55 PM (Be/+i)

    Never heard of it. A fiction, I see.

    I was falling asleep just reading the description.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:59 PM (9b7L5)

    196 Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:56 PM (/7KEl)

    Yes that’s the definition of Presentism.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 12:59 PM (MNhXM)

    197 US was more sensible then - Generall they didn't darft young men and send them into combat against the 'motherland'. Cousin against cousin can be taxing, and with the CW being recent enough.
    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 12:51 PM (cOq4q)

    But this was exactly why Italy saw going to war against the U.S. as being highly undesirable. It was one thing to fight other countries. But the Italians knew how many of their citizens had relatives in the U.S.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 01:00 PM (Ds3Rc)

    198 well I'm out
    I'm not allowed to comment on the next three threads

    c ya

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 01:01 PM (/7KEl)

    199 Like Hiroshima
    today, many people rightly fear the use of nuclear weapons-
    but in August 1945, to the people who had to decide, it made sense
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:56 PM (/7KEl)

    People were awfully critical of Tucker, for the way he worded his statement about dropping nooks, but to do so, to focus on that, is to miss the bigger point, which of course is that we are currently led by politicians around the globe, and oligarchs who control those politicians, who don't seem to mind the idea of dropping nooks.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 01:01 PM (9b7L5)

    200 And the declared Marxists students in the USA of today have no idea that Mussolini was a radical Marxist as was Goebbels . Goebbels only joined the Nazis because of his Jew hate.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 01:04 PM (MNhXM)

    201 173 Hey California, how's all those new cases of TB working out for ya?
    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 12:46 PM (W/lyH)

    No TB here. And this is the happiest state in America with an economy larger than the rest of the country put together. CA is perfect in every way.

    Posted by: Gov Newsom at May 04, 2024 01:04 PM (Ds3Rc)

    202 Not a shock. CalTrans is one of the most corrupt and incompetent organizations in existence.

    I live in Commiefornia for work (as soon as I retire I'm gone).

    Over the last 10 years, they've been 'building' an overpass a bit south of me. 10 freaking years later, it's still 'under construction'. Because they get paid by the hour.

    This is the kind of crap that made Trump take over the ice rink project in NY. After YEARS and who knows how much graft and uncounted millions in 'cost overruns', and it still wasn't ready. Then Trump took it over, and because he actually wanted to build it, did it in less than a year and under budget.

    These corrupt union 'building' projects are a complete and absolute joke, and everybody knows it.

    Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 04, 2024 01:04 PM (setIA)

    203 Foreign Nationals were required to register with the FBI.

    Those on the east coast and interior were required to have any radio capable of receiving short wave signals have the bands disabled by a licensed radio repair shop.

    In a nation with gas rationing - a 35 mph speed limit - you couldn’t even buy a tube of toothpaste without turning in the old one.

    There’s NO WAY the government would have instituted mass lockups for anything so petty as racism against Japanese.

    No, they were WORRIED. They weren’t taking any chances. Remember, the war was going on for years and the Allies were getting their ass handed to them up until 1942/1943

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2024 01:05 PM (DPe6y)

    204 , who don't seem to mind the idea of dropping nooks.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 01:01 PM (9b7L5)

    Yet It Hasn’t Happened.

    Some people just can’t learn that Talk Is Cheap.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 01:06 PM (Ds3Rc)

    205 194 Heh. Had a friend, now gone. Third or fourth generation Mexican American that worked the boat yards in Astoria. He said he was constantly asked about Finnish ancestry due to his name, Savala. Not enough Vs or Ls.

    Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2024 01:06 PM (V5eKu)

    206 Posted by: Common Tater at May 04, 2024 01:05 PM (DPe6y)

    And the main catalyst for Japanese internment was the sneak attack which was aided by spies on the island.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 01:07 PM (MNhXM)

    207 That's an uncomfortable topic, including here at the ol' AoSHQ. Lots of people have their minds made up about things, including the past, and whenever something gets introduced that might contradict the running narratives in their heads, they get real mad.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 11:52 AM (Mrjew)
    ===

    *sticks fingers in ears, runs in circles*

    Posted by: Cognitive Dissonance at May 04, 2024 01:08 PM (RIvkX)

    208 Chrissie Mayr doing a Drew Barrymore impersonation on Friday Night Tights:

    https://tinyurl.com/5b4zuyw8

    Definitely NSFW.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 01:10 PM (y29sO)

    209 Foreign Nationals were required to register with the FBI.
    -----------
    My grandfather and grandmother were foreign nationals (from Great Britain). I do not know if they were require to register.

    Grandpa was an air-raid warden, though. As I child I remember seeing the old WWI-style helmet. white-painted with the CD insignia in front.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 01:10 PM (Be/+i)

    210 Yet It Hasn’t Happened.

    Some people just can’t learn that Talk Is Cheap.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 01:06 PM (Ds3Rc)

    Be quiet, the adults are talking.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 01:10 PM (y29sO)

    211 There are still six months to go. Lots of time for Many Manufactured Miracles.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2024 12:37 PM

    Weather's warming up, time for the "mostly peaceful" space to destroy festivals.

    All we need is a two first name black dude to get killed, so we can get it on.


    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 12:46 PM

    Just heard this morning about one in Ohio that they will likely push into a national story once the Hamazi protests are off the front page. Or the media may push this in order to get the Hamazi protests off the front page. I actually heard about it for the first time on the replay of the Drew Lane Show this morning on Detroit Classic Rock station.

    Body-cam footage shows police left an Ohio man handcuffed and facedown on a bar floor before he died

    https://bit.ly/4aZIuo3

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 01:13 PM (P5BPp)

    212 Goebbels only joined the Nazis because of his Jew hate.
    Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2024 01:04 PM (MNhXM)
    ===

    He was part of the Drexler/Strasser faction of the party which was certainly Marxist in orientation. Goebbels also wrote in his diary that he was very persuaded by Hitler's personality.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:13 PM (RIvkX)

    213
    Florida has high speed rail between Miami and Orlando. Another example of Florida showing what is possible if you really want to get something done.
    Posted by: Florida Putting Up the Ws at May 04, 2024 11:43 AM (0Gsdq)

    IIRC privately funded.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

    ================

    San Diego got a cute red choo-choo from San Ysidro to downtown back when Pete Wilson was mayor. He resolutely didn't take a dime from the feds and got it done during his term as mayor. That train is now expanded up to La Jolla and the medical plants beyond. It ought to be named after him.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2024 01:13 PM (lCaJd)

    214 There's probably more than a few families out there that got started by Dad signing the travel orders.
    Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 04, 2024 12:57 PM (V5eKu)


    The Army MI Corps had a Ritchie Boys Reunion back...something like 15 years ago. Did your dad get to go?

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 04, 2024 01:13 PM (W/lyH)

    215 I live in Commiefornia for work (as soon as I retire I'm gone).

    Over the last 10 years, they've been 'building' an overpass a bit south of me. 10 freaking years later, it's still 'under construction'. Because they get paid by the hour.

    This is the kind of crap that made Trump take over the ice rink project in NY. After YEARS and who knows how much graft and uncounted millions in 'cost overruns', and it still wasn't ready. Then Trump took it over, and because he actually wanted to build it, did it in less than a year and under budget.

    These corrupt union 'building' projects are a complete and absolute joke, and everybody knows it.
    Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 04, 2024 01:04 PM (setIA)

    Kinda like Milton Friedman observing a Brazilian road building project where the crew was using only hand tools. The foreman explained to Friedman that this was so they didn’t finish the road too quickly and found themselves out of work again. Friedman asked “So why aren’t they using spoons?”

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 01:14 PM (Ds3Rc)

    216 My mother lived near a Japanese internment camp near Lamar, Colorado. She told me camp's high school sports teams competed with the surrounding area high school sports teams and the camp would hold festivals to which the townspeople were invited. So it was just like Auschwitz.
    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 12:26 PM (L/fGl)

    Oh! You want me to tell you where Hollywood is! Well, shoot, that's easy. Hollywood is...Oh, no, you don't. You thought you was gonna get me to show you where Hollywood was, didn't ya? Tried to sneak up on us, like ya did at Pearl Harbor! Bet you're gonna bomb John Wayne's house, ain't ya?

    Posted by: Hollis P. Wood at May 04, 2024 01:16 PM (R/m4+)

    217 I believe only Italian and German nationals had to register as enemy aliens.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:16 PM (RIvkX)

    218 He was part of the Drexler/Strasser faction of the party which was certainly Marxist in orientation.

    If I had known this I probably wouldn’t have high tailed it to Scandinavia. Coulda kept my original name, even.

    Posted by: Willy Brandt at May 04, 2024 01:16 PM (Ds3Rc)

    219 It is because people view history wrong. They think that the way it turned out is the only way it could go. They will say that America had already won the war and shouldn't have drpped the atomic bomb on Japan. They ignore the fact that Okinawans were committing suicide in advance of invasion and there was every reason to believe invading Japan would cost a lot of lives. And the atomic bomb was just another weapon.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 01:17 PM (yeEu9)

    220 Grand parents on mom's side stopped speaking German during WWII. My mom never spoke it to us.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 01:17 PM (psNWM)

    221 Oh! You want me to tell you where Hollywood is! Well, shoot, that's easy. Hollywood is...Oh, no, you don't. You thought you was gonna get me to show you where Hollywood was, didn't ya? Tried to sneak up on us, like ya did at Pearl Harbor! Bet you're gonna bomb John Wayne's house, ain't ya?
    Posted by: Hollis P. Wood at May 04, 2024 01:16 PM (R/m4+)
    -----------
    Horrywoooood!!!

    Posted by: Highly Enthusiastic Japanese Junior Officer at May 04, 2024 01:17 PM (Be/+i)

    222 Howard Zinn was a communist. How in the name of everything holy in fuckdom did we ever allow a communist to become the author of one of the most widely used history textbooks in our education system?
    -

    Let's see... Hmm.. Ah yes, here it is:

    Communist Goals
    Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

    "17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks."

    Also maybe

    "31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over."

    https://tinyurl.com/2o8d5xhv

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 01:17 PM (YsjiM)

    223 Body-cam footage shows police left an Ohio man handcuffed and facedown on a bar floor before he died

    -

    "Frank Tyson was released from state prison on April 6 after serving 24 years on a kidnapping and theft case and was almost immediately declared a post-release control supervision violator for failing to report to a parole officer, according to the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction."

    Quick, cause $2B worth of damage nationwide!

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 01:21 PM (YsjiM)

    224 17 I'm glad to see you included "Barbieland Intifada". I first saw that on Insty last night and thought this is going to achieve widespread usage.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 11:36 AM (CsUN+)

    The folks they're supporting was Klaus Barbieland...

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

    225 was = want. damn fingers.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

    226 Most of the Eurovision songs so far are unlistenable blackified rave techno music garbage.

    Try Norway. Guitars, bass, drums, violin, and a girl singing.

    Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2024 01:21 PM (FD5dr)

    227 I grew up in San Jose — before it was Silicon Valley. And that high speed rail segment reminded me of the 280/101 interchange that was begun and ran out of money, so it sat like a giant art installation for years and years. Boondoggles are a large part of California’s rich history.

    Posted by: red speck at May 04, 2024 01:22 PM (0Id0S)

    228
    Be quiet, the adults are talking.
    Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2024 01:10 PM (y29sO)

    Adults present counter-arguments. You spend endless time here shrieking about how a bunch of people TALKING about dropping nukes means nuclear war is IMMINENT, and when someone points out that for all the ceaseless TALK and BULLSHIT about dropping nukes - evidenced by the fact that for all the TALK it has NOT happened - you say “adults are talking”. Because you are incapable of providing a counter-argument.

    Now get on out of here, go dig a bimb shelter, clutch pearls while watching Atomic Cafe, and finish up by flying to the UK and chaining yourself to the fence at RAF Greenham Common. All because you never read The Little Boy WHO Cried Wolf as a kid like the rest of us real adults.

    Posted by: Catch thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 01:22 PM (Ds3Rc)

    229 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 01:17 PM (YsjiM)


    Yup.

    Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 04, 2024 01:22 PM (W6d+C)

    230 >>>They’re shouting Death to America? Give them a ...
    -------------------------

    bullet to the head?
    a noose?
    a free ride to Islamabad?

    Anything less is unjust. If one says that he's going to kill you, defense is justified.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 01:22 PM (lCWOD)

    231 This is the most remarkable human achievement ever, 1600 feet of high speed rail after 9 years and 11 billion dollars

    Indeed it is; it's a monument to graft in Kalifornia.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

    232 Off highly enthusiastic sock.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 01:24 PM (Be/+i)

    233 Did you click through the Barbieland link and see the attempt to make the frat guys look like they were giving Nazi salutes?

    https://tinyurl.com/25skjkzq

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 01:24 PM (YsjiM)

    234 Most of the Eurovision songs so far are unlistenable blackified rave techno music garbage.

    Try Norway. Guitars, bass, drums, violin, and a girl singing.
    Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2024 01:21 PM (FD5dr)

    Miss us yet?

    Last night I heard my momma singing this song
    Ooh wee chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
    Woke up this morning and my momma was gone
    Ooh wee chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
    Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep chirp...

    Posted by: Middle Of The Road at May 04, 2024 01:25 PM (R/m4+)

    235 So many countries refuse to take Palestinian refugees:

    Well, I look at it like this:
    US: "Hey, want some fireants? They sting and bite and swarm, and are easily riled up, but are mostly peaceful"
    Other Countries: "No, we have enough, uh, 'fireants' here."

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

    236 If I had known this I probably wouldn’t have high tailed it to Scandinavia. Coulda kept my original name, even.
    Posted by: Willy Brandt at May 04, 2024 01:16 PM (Ds3Rc)
    ===
    Volksgemeinschaft vor Grier

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 01:26 PM (RIvkX)

    237 234 Most of the Eurovision songs so far are unlistenable blackified rave techno music garbage.

    Try Norway. Guitars, bass, drums, violin, and a girl singing.
    Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2024 01:21 PM (FD5dr)

    Miss us yet?

    Last night I heard my momma singing this song
    Ooh wee chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
    Woke up this morning and my momma was gone
    Ooh wee chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
    Chirpy chirpy cheep cheep chirp...

    Posted by: Middle Of The Road at May 04, 2024 01:25 PM (R/m4+)

    Redheads in kilts playing bagpipes?

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

    238 NOOD Gardening

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

    239 Say what you will about Gavin.Newsom, he's not a fascist. I know because he can't make the trains run on time.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 01:29 PM (L/fGl)

    240 239 Say what you will about Gavin.Newsom, he's not a fascist. I know because he can't make the trains run on time.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 01:29 PM (L/fGl)

    LOL, no he's just an INEPT Fascist. LOL

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:29 PM (ynpvh)

    241 Redheads in kilts playing bagpipes?
    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

    Hot blonde and three droogs...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSNSTerj2Kc

    If I remember right, she dated the lead singer from The Sweet.

    Lucky bastard.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 01:30 PM (R/m4+)

    242 233 Did you click through the Barbieland link and see the attempt to make the frat guys look like they were giving Nazi salutes?

    https://tinyurl.com/25skjkzq

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 01:24 PM (YsjiM)

    That little twitter pali-fag doesn't know that the pali's want his little gay ass dead. Talk about useful idiots.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

    243 >>> Well, I look at it like this:
    US: "Hey, want some fireants? They sting and bite and swarm, and are easily riled up, but are mostly peaceful"
    Other Countries: "No, we have enough, uh, 'fireants' here."
    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
    ---------------------------

    We have had presidents who could explain to other heads of state why it would be to their benefit to take in the Gazans and an they would understand.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 01:31 PM (lCWOD)

    244 243 >>> Well, I look at it like this:
    US: "Hey, want some fireants? They sting and bite and swarm, and are easily riled up, but are mostly peaceful"
    Other Countries: "No, we have enough, uh, 'fireants' here."
    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
    ---------------------------

    We have had presidents who could explain to other heads of state why it would be to their benefit to take in the Gazans and an they would understand.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 01:31 PM (lCWOD)

    Lawyer in Hell joke punchline: "We were recruiting"...

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

    245 A Progressive acquaintance once said to me, 'I learned all that I need to know about American history from Howard Zinn'.

    I'm still trying to resolve the fact that reasonably intelligent people can be stupid.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 01:38 PM (XeU6L)

    246 My favorite Thrill version:

    https://tinyurl.com/mw8t7a7u

    Posted by: SonnyD at May 04, 2024 01:40 PM (aA6YN)

    247 Don't worry, though. Everything you've been taught about Lincoln and the Civil War has been untouched by their influence.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 01:46 PM (YsjiM)

    248 @223

    >>Quick, cause $2B worth of damage nationwide!

    I take it Frank is not a Person of Palor?

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2024 02:10 PM (XV/Pl)

    249 Michael Burry Stock Tracker
    @burrytracker

    CA High-Speed rail celebrates spending $10 Billion and 16 years on the "completion" of a 1,600 foot long concrete section

    Meanwhile, China in the same span of time is featured on the right:

    https://bit.ly/4a1Kjzf

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 02:39 PM (P5BPp)

    250 Newsweek:

    Donald Trump Demands Jack Smith Be Arrested After Document Revelation

    Posted by: SMOD at May 04, 2024 02:50 PM (RovqD)

    251 Newsweek:

    Donald Trump Demands Jack Smith Be Arrested After Document Revelation
    Posted by: SMOD

    Welp, it does seem that the Biden Junta did physically fabricate a crime to frame Trump with, stopping as low on the totem pole as Jack Smith seems a little inadaquate.

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2024 03:06 PM (cOq4q)

    252 In a stunning admission, Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team is admitting that key evidence in former President Donald Trump’s classified documents criminal case was altered or manipulated since it was seized by the FBI, and that prosecutors misled the court about it for a period of time.

    Legal experts told Just the News the revelation could prove to be a serious problem for prosecutors and a violation of court rules to preserve evidence in the state it was seized.

    In a new filing Friday, Smith’s team said that the order of documents in some of the boxes of memos that were seized by the FBI from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate was altered or jumbled, leaving two different chronologies: one that was digitally scanned and another the physical order in the boxes.

    Posted by: Neo at May 04, 2024 04:09 PM (RovqD)

    253 My favorite Thrill version:

    https://tinyurl.com/mw8t7a7u

    Sonny D, great minds think alike because that was the version I posted.
    There is a great set he did with Eric Clapton Riding with the King.

    Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 04:33 PM (t/2Uw)

    254 "1600 feet of high speed rail after 9 years and 11 billion dollars." They should be able to do that much in a month or two if they were competent.
    Graft and Red tape, either way, people should be going to prison.

    Posted by: Sixiron at May 04, 2024 07:32 PM (c4Wfm)

    The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Thread & Prayer Revival (5/4/24)

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    Good morning Horde.

    *****

    How much is too much coffee? Is there ever too much coffee?

    Can Too Much Coffee Affect Your Weight and Health?
    Coffee has its perks, but some common mistakes may be hurting your efforts to stay healthy. Find out how to avoid them


    *****

    Before we enter the Prayer Revival. A big thank you to Annie for compiling this list week after week. Also before the Prayer Revival just a few Housekeeping matters to address. (Rulz for those of you in Arbor Vitae)

    1. This is an open thread, feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
    2. Be nice to one another. Use your indoor voices.
    3. If you must run with sharp objects, please do it outside where blood shed doesn't matter.
    4. Have a nice weekend!


    *****


    AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

    Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

    Prayer Requests:

    3/2 Reforger asked for prayers for his Coworker “D”, a widowed mom of 4 who is having a rough time with daughter #1. D’s daughter had to be incarcerated. She went nuts, trashed her room, broke things, and even kicked a cop. She could use a lot of prayers.
    4/20 Update – Coworker D’s daughter is going to go live with her dad. Mom is at wit’s end. They hope a change in scenery will provoke some positive changes, since nothing else is working.

    2/29 – DaveT asks for prayers. We had prayed in the past for him, as he was trying to save his cats and his home from repossession (due to a relative who burdened the family home with debt). DaveT is over 65 and is not able to work much. The cats are elderly and one is blind, and the only family he has. Things had turned around and it looked like he was going to be fine last summer, but now a new judge is on the case and seems to want to kick DaveT and the cats out of the house. Please pray. If anyone wants to contribute, Annie’s Stew has the details of his GiveSendGo.
    4/27 Update – DaveT was able to get life-saving care for his cat, Dennis, and now Dennis is recovering well. It was a miracle, both for the results and the reasonable cost. The sleazy “bank” is still working to evict DaveT.

    3/3 – Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards asked for prayers as he is scared to death of some much-needed surgery. Pain, healing, iyiyi! Even the red tape involved in scheduling. Thank you all again!
    4/10 Update – Recovering from diverticulitis surgery. It’s rough. Much pain, and there is talk of another surgery. He is miserable.

    3/9 – Hadrian the Seventh asked for prayers for Her Majesty, who is having knee replacement surgery. He’d like prayers for a successful operation, but also an uneventful recovery. Her previous surgery in 2019 (on the other knee) was marked by great pain and the effect of the medication was terrible.
    4/13 Update – Her Majesty is on a cane now and doing very well. The downside is that now she’s no longer bedridden, she’s going around the house finding things for me to do. She goes to physical therapy twice a week, which is exhausting, but she wants to drive the RV to Washington state in a couple of months for our National Specialty, so she’ll have to put in the work.

    3/9 – Dr_No asked for prayers for his daughter, Megan. We had prayed for her in 2021, when she had cancer. Her cancer is still in remission, but she has blood clots in her lungs. She went to the local ER, where they said everything was normal. She sent a message to her PCP, to ask her to review the situation. She is still weak, and gets tired if a conversation lasts more than 1-2 sentences. Please pray that she be restored to full health. Thanks once again to the Horde for the help.
    4/13 Update – The shingles have passed the most painful point (the first two weeks), and she’s now mostly pain-free. The colon cancer is still in remission. Thanks so much for sending words up for her recovery.

    3/23 – Jewells would appreciate prayers for her niece, who is in the hospital for the second time in a week. She was diagnosed with pneumonia the first time, but still felt awful. She went back to ER, and they admitted her again. Her oxygen level was 76. She is the niece who is fighting cervical cancer.
    4/13 Update – They suspended treatment for Jewells’ niece for 6 weeks and have her on oxygen. Her cancer is responding to the treatment, but at an awful price.

    3/23 – Fenelon Spoke needs prayers for Jessie, their “retired” organist. Jessie had fallen. Nothing was broken, but it is a setback for her and she is in pain.
    4/20 Update – Jessie is in less pain now.

    3/28 – Reforger asked for prayers for his wife, who is applying for a promotion. The new job would triple her salary.
    4/20 Update – Mrs. Reforger got the job.

    3/30 – mindful webworker asked for prayers as he is going under the knife again for what will be a few hours’ surgery and maybe a week in the hospital. His surgeon used the word “mystery” three times while describing what they will be doing.
    4/13 Update – After 3 intense hours, the surgeon packed out his pickaxe and jackhammer, weary but confident that he had removed all the cement-like crud blocking mindful webworker’s intestines. The next few months will be spent recovering and healing. After 9 inhospitable days, he is trying to adjust to home life. He’s asked MiladyJo to wake him every couple of hours to check his vital signs. Every day is a gift. Prayers for all in need.


    4/1 – News from Washington Nearsider: His savings have expired and May's bills cannot yet be paid. Another custody hearing - to reevaluate the March 13 determination to give his ex full custody - has been scheduled for May 13th, so that's a date on the calendar towards which he has to work.
    He has added one (1) client to his custom model aircraft list, and hopes to add several more, even though he can only work on one at a time. Having a known stream of income is better than not. You can contact Nearsider at washingtonnearsider at gee mail to learn about shipping and timelines or to discuss any details. Interested Morons can look at some small segment of his previous work by heading to this link: https://tinyurl.com/yzmucshu
    On the job front, Nearsider had a promising interview, only to be told at the end that though his writing samples, resume, attitude, background, and presentation were all exceptional, his removal from federal service prevented any path forward. Nearsider explained the details leading up to his removal, and while the panel expressed their sympathies for his situation and their admiration at his courage, their position was unchanged. He suspects this employer was simply the first to be so direct, and that he's missed out on several other opportunities for the same reason.
    Several contractors have contacted him in response to applications he's submitted and he's hoping at least one of them will be willing to focus on the writing, resume, attitude, background, and presentation vice the end of his federal career. As usual, more follows.
    Since several people encouraged it, he has set up a GiveSendGo account. Please contact Annie for the details, if you wish to contribute.
    4/24 Update – After receiving an overwhelming outpouring of support from the Horde, Washington Nearsider was able to pay the mortgage for May and June, and is less panicked about losing his house. He also received a promotion at Home Depot, so he is managing a department, which will also increase his pay at bit. He loves you all and is so grateful.

    4/3 – Notsothoreau posted that Mrs. Salty (as in Mrs. NaClyDog) had a bad fall and broke four ribs. She tested positive for Covid, as well. Prayers for quick healing and that she is out of the hospital soon.
    4/26 Update – Mrs. Salty continues to make progress, and your prayers helped. Soon she will be back to where she was before the fall.

    4/4 – J. J. Sefton could use prayers. Here was his posting:
    “After suffering some sort of seizure back in February, while the initial MRI and spinal tap showed nothing, a subsequent MRI this past Friday evidently seems to indicate that I might have some sort of brain tumor/growth that would require immediate attention. As in surgery.
    That said, on a positive note -- and I'm holding onto this bit of news as positive with all my might -- the medical neurology team and the surgical neurology team are apparently still reading the tea leaves to see what kind of surgery, if any, is required to deal with this. I am hoping against hope for that non-surgical option but am preparing myself as best as I can for whatever is to be.”

    4/8 – FenelonSpoke asked for prayers for her husband. He was stubborn and didn’t go to the doctor for about 5 days and has shingles. He is in pain.
    4/20 Update – FenSpouse is much better. He still has a little tingling but the pain from the shingles is much better.

    4/10 – FortWorthMike updated the Horde. His MIL, who was going through cancer treatments, had miraculous results. The tumor is reduced so much, there is no sign of cancer. They won’t say cancer-free, but it’s just something to monitor now.

    4/13 – NaughtyPine asked for prayers. There was a “psychic” who went on a murder-suicide rampage. A 9-year-old girl survived the attack, but her baby sister died in her arms. The surviving little girl needs prayers.

    4/13 – Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd gave an update. His former son-in-law has died. It is something of a relief. He was an abusive, manipulative, drug-using alcoholic whose hobby was breaking into cars. He was well-known to law enforcement and the justice system. He had a remarkable capacity for wiping out wealth, either through outright theft or negligence. A.H. Lloyd’s daughter tried to leave him multiple times, but he was able to woo her back again and again. The last straw was when he used their tax refund for an Only Fans girl. The deceased is survived by his children, who he should have supported, but have been in A.H. Lloyd’s care for more than a year. Pray for the deceased if you like, but please pray for the children and their mother.

    4/13 – Cybersmythe sent an update on his job search. He has received a formal offer of employment, for a job he thinks he wants. He appreciates all the kind thoughts and prayers.

    4/13 – Nurse Ratched asked for prayers for her Marine, J, and his wife, M, who are having their wedding celebration on 4/13. They are sweet kids, respectful and kind to each other and would benefit greatly from the power of Horde prayers.

    4/16 – Notsothoreau asked for prayers for a co-worker’s mentor and long time friend, DM, who has been diagnosed with throat cancer. Prayers for DM and also for his wife, that they would be strengthened and, God willing, that DM would be healed.

    4/18 – Misanthropic Humanitarian asked for prayers, as he will be having his right knee replacement surgery on 5/6/24.

    4/20 – AnchorPoint wanted to share an answered prayer, as well as a request. The answered prayer is: AnchorPoint’s dad passed away about 2 years ago. The estate was not going to be a windfall, but they hoped it would be enough to pay off their mortgage. After all the work was done and all the bills were paid, the final check was $72.38 off from the total mortgage payoff amount! The prayer request is: AnchorPoint’s relationship with one sister is bad. The sister has had a lot of trauma in her life and significant mental health issues and physical issues. AnchorPoint asks for prayers that their relationship would be restored.

    4/20 – FenelonSpoke asked for prayers for her son. God willing, her son will graduate in May with a degree in horticulture. He has a paid internship with a multinational agricultural company in the PA Dutch area starting right after graduation. He needs to find a place to live.

    4/20 – Defenestratus humbly requests prayers for a friend named Jourdan, a wonderful young woman with a 2-year-old daughter. Jourdan had gotten the good news that her breast cancer tumors had disappeared after chemo. But now she caught a nasty bug, and Jourdan has spent a week in the hospital getting blood transfusions.

    4/20 - Miley, okravangelist asked for prayers for her brother. They think he is on the verge of a breakdown, stressing out over prepping. He flies off the handle and is freaking everyone else out. Miley could use prayers, too, since worrying about her brother is making her ill.
    4/25 Update – Her brother seems to have calmed down lately, but prayers are still welcome!

    4/27 – rhennigantx posted an update on his friend, Tim, who we have been praying for. Tim is not doing well. He is back on the vent and unresponsive. Rhennigantx doesn’t think Tim will make it.

    4/27 – Someone Else requested prayers, as she is going through difficult family issues with an elderly aunt as well as dealing with some professional problems at this time.

    4/27 – JW asked for prayers for Libby, who has a glioblastoma tumor that affects her word choices, so communication is very difficult. Libby has ahd surgery, radiation, and chemo, but is worse in the 4 weeks since treatment ended.

    5/2 – A Dude in MI requested prayers for dude Jr who is having a rough situation at school. Please pray for a quick resolution and no lasting effects.

    For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

    2 Corinthians 4:8-9
    We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:02 AM




    Comments

    (Jump to bottom of comments)

    1 Haze grey and under way

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:04 AM (8AONa)

    2 I noooded

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:05 AM (8AONa)

    3 Good morning!

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 08:06 AM (llXky)

    4 They're waking up slowly Mr. Lloyd

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:07 AM (8AONa)

    5 They're waking up slowly Mr. Lloyd
    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:07 AM (8AONa)
    ---
    I sure did. Grandkids are gone, so I slept in. Wonderful.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 08:09 AM (llXky)

    6 Caturday!! Is it okay to bloviate nekkid then?

    Posted by: Ciampino - pronouns & proadjectives & proverbs at May 04, 2024 08:09 AM (qfLjt)

    7 Powerline Week in Pictures:

    https://is.gd/rAzpHJ

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Houskeeper at May 04, 2024 08:10 AM (PiwSw)

    8 The Pooch does not observe weekend sleeping-in policies

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:10 AM (8AONa)

    9 Thanks for the prayers for my son, everyone. It means so much to our family. Son now has a place to stay while he is doing his internship.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:10 AM (XkYcA)

    10 >>Can Too Much Coffee Affect Your Weight and Health?'

    Can too many (dubiously motivated "health" organization's) scare studies about common foods affect your enjoyment of the simple pleasures in life?

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:11 AM (cCVOS)

    11 Nekkid bloviations are authorized, but restraint and decorum are urged and passive voice is highly discouraged.

    Posted by: Dean Wormer at May 04, 2024 08:11 AM (dg+HA)

    12 Yonder Horde

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 08:12 AM (Q4IgG)

    13 I spent last evening saying farewell to some long time colleagues. The consultants our management brought in deemed them expendable.

    So, praying for some wonderful people.

    Is it wrong to pray that the consultants get a flat tire as they drive to the airport to catch a ride home on their private jet?

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:13 AM (8AONa)

    14 We get so many of these 'boyfriend kills nuisance child' such senseless violence and lack of remorse. Poor kid. Hurts to even think about it, a grown man beating a child to death. I can condone a slap on the bottom but no more.

    https://tinyurl.com/yuuxa4pm


    Posted by: Ciampino - pronouns, proadjectives & proverbs at May 04, 2024 08:14 AM (qfLjt)

    15 "Misanthropic Humanitarian asked for prayers, as he will be having his right knee replacement surgery on 5/6/24."

    I am unable to relate this to any Zappa song. The best I can do is this:

    Occam's Razor

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp93bcp4HCM

    Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at May 04, 2024 08:14 AM (vFG9F)

    16 WTF. New Rasmussen Trump +12 nationally in five way race.

    Outlier or new vector?

    Posted by: Redenzo at May 04, 2024 08:15 AM (V/pbu)

    17 Good Saturday morning, horde! Prayers have been said for all who have asked, and the rest of you, too.

    And for Israel to be victorious, and for the pedophilia networks to be brought down, and that our "leaders" be led to do the right things.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 08:15 AM (OX9vb)

    18 Good morning again dear horde thank you annie and mh and to you morons for your prayers

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 08:17 AM (RIvkX)

    19 Son now has a place to stay while he is doing his internship.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:10 AM (XkYcA)

    Wonderful news! I hope he loves the job and learns a bunch of good stuff.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 08:18 AM (OX9vb)

    20 13
    Is it wrong to pray that the consultants get a flat tire as they drive to the airport to catch a ride home on their private jet?

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:13 AM (8AONa)
    ----
    You forgot to add to that tire problem on the busy elevated freeway, the bad case of diarrhea from that Mex restaurant meal.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Imgine that: elevated freeway - squirts - flat tire at May 04, 2024 08:18 AM (qfLjt)

    21 Bring me coffee! Vegan and GMO coffee. Also, I need basic humanitarian relief supplies, like cream cheese and bagels. Plus, who is going to do my laundry? Columbia owes us consideration.

    Posted by: Johanna King-Slutsky at May 04, 2024 08:19 AM (k4T9M)

    22 >>WTF. New Rasmussen Trump +12 nationally in five way race.


    Had a conversation with a Lefty colleague, and she was disgusted by the protests. Even she knew it was not college students naturally uprising but the work of career activists taking advantage of campus environment (administrators not wanting to bring in the police, etc.). Interesting.

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:19 AM (cCVOS)

    23 Prayers for all.

    Posted by: Mick at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (6DB2i)

    24 I read that Hamas is blocking traffic around Johns Hopkins in Baltimore.

    My experience with this almost certainly has nothing to do with Hamas, given our location. But on Tuesday, when we were trying to adjust the flow on my daughter's shunt at our Children's Hospital, somebody pulled the fire alarm and forced an evacuation. We eventually got it done, but she didn't improve enough, and we went to surgery on Thursday.

    The surgery went well, and she appears to be much better, at least for now. But yesterday, when we were waiting for the neurosurgeon to do her rounds so we could be discharged, somebody (I suspect the same sonofabitch) called in a bomb threat, and forced a lockdown. Took us all day to get out, and we'd been up since 4.30a for the followup CT scan.

    Hamas or otherwise, people who deliberately disrupt hospitals should be publicly flogged within in an inch of their worthless lives, before serving no less than ten years in prison.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (0FoWg)

    25 Had a conversation with a Lefty colleague, and she was disgusted by the protests. Even she knew it was not college students naturally uprising but the work of career activists taking advantage of campus environment (administrators not wanting to bring in the police, etc.). Interesting.
    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:19 AM (cCVOS)


    But how will she vote in November?

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Houskeeper at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (PiwSw)

    26
    Need a big dose of cynical laughter this morning?

    Here is a short video of the head of the economic council advising Biden.

    The man clearly clearly clearly has no, nada, zero understanding of even the most basic economics.

    lEnjoy!

    https://hotair.com/david-

    strom/2024/05/03/unbelievable-n3787707


    Our government has devolved to this- the retarded leading the senile.

    Wonder how the economy got so bad. Wonder no more, dear friends.

    This clown's knowledge is less than bumper sticker deep.

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 08:21 AM (eDfFs)

    27 The consultants our management brought in deemed them expendable.

    -

    Similar to how when a boss intends to do some expensive stupid project and forms a team of underlings to tell him things about it. He's already going to do it but knows this way he can say "the team determined" and there will be no one to blame.

    Those consultants are no different than getting someone else to kill your dog so no one blames you and you feel better about yourself (see what I did there?)

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:21 AM (YsjiM)

    28 Hamas or otherwise, people who deliberately disrupt hospitals should be publicly flogged within in an inch of their worthless lives, before serving no less than ten years in prison.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (0FoWg)

    Sounds about right to me. Where do i sign up to support

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 08:21 AM (SHAib)

    29 Did we ever get the URL for Eurovision voting? Got to vote for Israel.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Imgine that: elevated freeway - squirts - 2 flat tires at May 04, 2024 08:22 AM (qfLjt)

    30 Fen, I am glad your son is set I am sure this has been a big worry for you.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 08:22 AM (RIvkX)

    31 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 08:22 AM (H5l1D)

    32 Almighty GOD, creator of all things, we thank you for many blessings already received. You know our needs before we ask, yet we beseech you in Jesus’ name, grant grace, mercy, and healing to those mentioned and unmentioned.
    Amen

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (o2ZRX)

    33 Our government has devolved to this- the retarded leading the senile.

    Wonder how the economy got so bad. Wonder no more, dear friends.

    This clown's knowledge is less than bumper sticker deep.
    Posted by: naturalfake

    -

    He and KJP have deep and insightful power lunches.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (YsjiM)

    34 passive voice is highly discouraged.
    Posted by: Dean Wormer at May 04, 2024 08:11 AM (dg+HA)

    Heh. ISWYDT

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (OX9vb)

    35 MisHum-

    I'm challenging you to see how many Dad jokes you can deploy in the pre-op area, OR, and Recovery.

    "I can't wait to get out of this joint!"

    "When I get released I'm going to go on a bender!"

    "I really kneed this surgery!"

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (l4B/J)

    36 6 Caturday!! Is it okay to bloviate nekkid then?
    Posted by: Ciampino - pronouns & proadjectives & proverbs at May 04, 2024 08:09 AM (qfLjt)

    TMI

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at May 04, 2024 08:24 AM (QXQ4l)

    37 Blue skies, light clouds, sunshine, and the sweet fragrance of flowering shrubs. And that one weird bird screeching one note. I'll take it. 🤠 Goodday, y'all.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - walking the dog at May 04, 2024 08:24 AM (25PAU)

    38 Fantastic to hear that Fen. Hope it works out well for him

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 08:24 AM (H5l1D)

    39 The son of a kindergarten friend of mine graduated with his BSN yesterday and will be a surgical nurse at PennMed. b"h

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 08:24 AM (RIvkX)

    40 Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (l4B/J)


    LOL

    I'll try to remember.

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (QXQ4l)

    41 6 Caturday!! Is it okay to bloviate nekkid then?
    Posted by: Ciampino - pronouns & proadjectives & proverbs at May 04, 2024 08:09 AM (qfLjt)


    It depends.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who worked for a consulting company once upon a time at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (PiwSw)

    42 "Is it okay to bloviate nekkid then?"

    If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)

    43 HARARE, Zimbabwe—On a recent afternoon, Rutendo Manyowa handed over a U.S. $5 bill to pay for her $3.50 order of chicken, fries and a soft drink at a popular fast-food joint in the Zimbabwean capital. But instead of a $1 bill and two quarters in change, the cashier handed Ms. Manyowa three slips of paper, bearing the restaurant’s name and the amount of money she could use to buy her next meal.

    -

    It's amusing that the left insists that inflation is a worldwide problem and not just a U.S. one and that's proof that Biden is awesome and doing a great job.

    Yes, of course inflation is rampant around the world. This tiny little restaurant almost perfectly explains why.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (YsjiM)

    44 Oh man, YD, can't imagine how awful that was!
    Glad your daughter got the care she needed.
    Having logged many hours in hospitals with loved ones, can understand what an incredibly cruel thing they did to you and the other patients.

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:26 AM (cCVOS)

    45 Please consider praying for people at the Kentucky Derby. I have a couple of friends there and I do worry about terrorism at large events.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:26 AM (XkYcA)

    46 "$3.50 order of chicken, fries and a soft drink"

    What a deal. Are you sure it's chicken?

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:27 AM (vFG9F)

    47 35 MisHum-

    I'm challenging you to see how many Dad jokes you can deploy in the pre-op area, OR, and Recovery.

    "I can't wait to get out of this joint!"

    "When I get released I'm going to go on a bender!"

    "I really kneed this surgery!"
    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (l4B/J)

    'After this one, I am planning on a special joint operation with my wife!'

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:27 AM (di6C2)

    48 I'm surprised the Hamas sympathizers haven't moved off the college quad and over to city hall. I think in most places they're operating now they'd be able to do it unmolested.

    And I still think where they've been pushed out the kids need to be rounded up and brought back to clean up their mess. A subtle lesson that really needs to be taught to these shitheads.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 08:27 AM (Q4IgG)

    49
    Remembering those on the Prayer List in my Rosary intentions.

    Her Majesty has been suffering from nausea and no appetite for several days. While her knee is getting better, there's some fluid weeping from the incision area. And she has had to go in and get further work done on her expensively-repaired eyes to remove scar tissue that's formed around the new lenses. Please continue to spare a thought for her.

    Me? I feel fine.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 08:29 AM (MoZTd)

    50 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

    *********

    I agree. Utterly despicable. Was that at the Anschutz campus?

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:29 AM (l4B/J)

    51 Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:23 AM (l4B/J)

    When my dad was getting his knees replaced, the surgeon remarked on how bad they were. He nearly refused to believe the old man was walking.

    Me or Joe Mannix (I think it was me) said "uh, yup. He's got the Kneebola, doc."

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:29 AM (0FoWg)

    52 Hamas or otherwise, people who deliberately disrupt hospitals should be publicly flogged within in an inch of their worthless lives, before serving no less than ten years in prison.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (0FoWg)

    I would support charges of attempted murder.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 08:29 AM (OX9vb)

    53 Had a conversation with a Lefty colleague, and she was disgusted by the protests. Even she knew it was not college students naturally uprising but the work of career activists taking advantage of campus environment (administrators not wanting to bring in the police, etc.). Interesting.
    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:19 AM (cCVOS)

    But how will she vote in November?
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Houskeeper at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (PiwSw)


    Well, that's the question is, isn't it?

    Unlike in the 60s, we're all, even most(?) Democrats, are savvy enough to know that these protests are fake Merely paid for, yet evil, astroturfing gulling the idiots and midwits and led by professional Anti-American, anti-Israel protestors and furriners.

    This is not a "spontaneous" uprising by the youth of America.

    But, will Democrats horrified by what their party has wrought, vote for Trump and the Republicans? Will they withhold their donations to the Dims?

    Or will they simply think something stupid like- "Oh, these terrible people are ruining our beautiful beautiful message of peace and equality! We must vote harder for good people like kindly, grandfather Joe Biden!"

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 08:30 AM (eDfFs)

    54 Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 08:24 AM (H5l1D)

    Thx so much, Skip!

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:30 AM (XkYcA)

    55 $3.50 order of chicken, fries and a soft drink"

    -

    I'm trying to figure out if it's good that this meal is $3.50 in Zimbabwe or bad that it four or so years ago that it cost almost the same in the U.S. (Wendys $4 bag)

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:30 AM (YsjiM)

    56 'After this one, I am planning on a special joint operation with my wife!'
    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:27 AM (di6C2)

    The Fabulous giggled as did I

    Thank you.

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at May 04, 2024 08:31 AM (QXQ4l)

    57 >>But how will she vote in November?

    Not Republican.
    *sigh*

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:32 AM (cCVOS)

    58 But how will she vote in November?

    -

    The real beauty of it?

    It doesn't matter. Especially if she lives in one of the designated cities determined to be the fulcrum for this election.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:32 AM (YsjiM)

    59 I agree. Utterly despicable. Was that at the Anschutz campus?
    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:29 AM (

    Nope. We boogied outta there. East TN Children's Hospital. Serves a big area in Appalachia.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:32 AM (0FoWg)

    60 But how will she vote in November?
    -

    Not Republican.
    *sigh*

    -

    Gotta kill them black babies, yo

    Also you're the Nazi.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:32 AM (YsjiM)

    61 YD was this is TN? My bff experienced a bomb threat while she was at children's hospital. I hope the SOB is caught and jailed for the maximum.

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:33 AM (Qlfpj)

    62 As the Enemy tries to consolidate his hold on this world I sort of expect that incidents like the psychic hurting/killing people will increase.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 04, 2024 08:33 AM (XjtdB)

    63 One of my offspring has a phone interview Thursday morning. Pretty big deal for him.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 08:34 AM (dg+HA)

    64 Huh. I never thought about it, but the media treats black shooting deaths by white cops like they did casualty counts in Iraq or Vietnam. They WANT them. Same kind of fervor.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:34 AM (di6C2)

    65 After Mis Hum has reached the peak of strength after his
    knee replacement surgery, he will have reached his ze-knee-th!

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:35 AM (XkYcA)

    66 Holy crap! That's BFF's hospital. Small world.

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:35 AM (Qlfpj)

    67 Well isn't that nice.

    >>Trump Whodunnit: Prosecutors admit key evidence in document case has been tampered with

    >>Legal experts call revelation a “serious violation” as Jack Smith’s team admits it also misled court.

    https://tinyurl.com/3264ebuf

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 08:36 AM (LkLld)

    68 Nope. We boogied outta there

    *******

    As I hit "post" I remembered you had moved.

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:36 AM (l4B/J)

    69 Best wishes to all who are in distress this morning.

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:36 AM (/7KEl)

    70 I'm surprised the Hamas sympathizers haven't moved off the college quad and over to city hall. I think in most places they're operating now they'd be able to do it unmolested.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 08:27 AM (Q4IgG)
    ---
    The activists running the show correctly understand that campus police are less accountable to local politicians. No one elects a university chancellor, but you can have a voter rebellion remove a weak city council or mayor.

    They've chosen their targets with great care.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 08:36 AM (llXky)

    71 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 08:29 AM (MoZTd)

    Sorry Mrs. Hadrian is having these troubles. Will pray.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:36 AM (XkYcA)

    72 45 Please consider praying for people at the Kentucky Derby. I have a couple of friends there and I do worry about terrorism at large events.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:26 AM (XkYcA)
    Bless the people having fun
    Bless the horses as they run
    This we ask for Derby Day
    For their safety we humbly pray.
    - a little kid

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (o2ZRX)

    73 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)
    ---
    Today's Gardening Thread should be...interesting...

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (BpYfr)

    74 Huh. I never thought about it, but the media treats black shooting deaths by white cops like they did casualty counts in Iraq or Vietnam. They WANT them. Same kind of fervor.
    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:34 AM (di6C2)
    ---
    Weird how they stopped caring about coffins coming back when Democrats got control.

    That false consciousness ain't gonna build itself!

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (llXky)

    75 Mornin' Horde. Prayers for all y'all and your loved ones.

    Posted by: screaming in digital at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (wQXfi)

    76 >>Trump Whodunnit: Prosecutors admit key evidence in document case has been tampered with

    -

    Let that same thing happen to repeat felon Reprobatus over a meth charge in some rural county in Alabama and cities would burn.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:38 AM (YsjiM)

    77 This clown's knowledge is less than bumper sticker deep.

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 08:21 AM (eDfFs)

    Based on other statements he's made in the past, it looks like he knows *precisely* what he's doing and is evil rather than ignorant.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 04, 2024 08:38 AM (XjtdB)

    78 When I had my toe amputated I asked the nurse if they were going to wheel me to the OR on a gurney or were they going to use a Toe Truck."

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:39 AM (l4B/J)

    79 73 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)
    ---
    Today's Gardening Thread should be...interesting...
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (BpYfr)


    Two words. Briers.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who worked for a consulting company once upon a time at May 04, 2024 08:39 AM (PiwSw)

    80 Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (o2ZRX)

    Amen! Thx.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 08:39 AM (XkYcA)

    81 Hamas or otherwise, people who deliberately disrupt hospitals should be publicly flogged within in an inch of their worthless lives, before serving no less than ten years in prison.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (0FoWg)

    Absolutely.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 04, 2024 08:39 AM (XjtdB)

    82 63 One of my offspring has a phone interview Thursday morning. Pretty big deal for him.
    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 08:34 AM (dg+HA)

    Good luck to him.

    If he has a voice like Yul Brenner, he should be fine. If he sounds like Ben Shapiro, well...

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:39 AM (di6C2)

    83 From the WSJ:

    At Columbia University, in the weeks and months before police took down encampments at the New York City campus and removed demonstrators occupying an academic building, student organizers began consulting with groups such as the National Students for Justice in Palestine, veterans of campus protests and former Black Panthers.

    Well, duh.

    Posted by: dantesed at May 04, 2024 08:40 AM (Oy/m2)

    84
    For Derby Day:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAIlVCStp3c

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:40 AM (/7KEl)

    85 as Jack Smith’s team admits it also misled court.

    -

    Also this seems like it would be a pretty big violation of something sacred.

    I'm no lawyer, but I know that if I falsify records in any way I risk my licenses and freedom (ability to earn a living tied to both).

    You can admit you lie to judges and its fine, though?

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:40 AM (YsjiM)

    86 Sorry, not "lied to judges."

    Lied to the justice system. Because, like cops, you're not attacking the individual. You are attacking the system and foundation of the system.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:41 AM (YsjiM)

    87 And I still think where they've been pushed out the kids need to be rounded up and brought back to clean up their mess. A subtle lesson that really needs to be taught to these shitheads.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 08:27 AM (Q4IgG)
    ===

    An entire social system has been created to reward this behavior and to encourage ever more radicalization.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 08:41 AM (RIvkX)

    88 Weird how they stopped caring about coffins coming back when Democrats got control.

    That false consciousness ain't gonna build itself!
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (llXky)

    Or when it is black on black crime. Or Hispanic on black crime. etc.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:42 AM (di6C2)

    89 you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)
    ---
    Today's Gardening Thread should be...interesting...
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (BpYfr)

    Two words. Briers.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who worked for a consulting company once upon a time


    One word: MOSQUITOES

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:44 AM (Qlfpj)

    90 Something on the trashcan intifada video:

    -The Romans, they were not. They entered 'combat' in a line, but behind one another- not supporting one another.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:45 AM (di6C2)

    91 Two words. Briers.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who worked for a consulting company once upon a time


    One word: MOSQUITOES
    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:44 AM (Qlfpj)

    Ticks.

    Chiggers. For God's sake, Chiggers.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:46 AM (di6C2)

    92 73 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)
    ---
    Today's Gardening Thread should be...interesting...

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (BpYfr)
    ----
    A lot of "How'd they hanging?"

    Posted by: Ciampino - meaning tomatoes of course at May 04, 2024 08:47 AM (qfLjt)

    93 BTW I read that coffee article. Since I deink black coffee, I'm good to go. It advises against coffee in the afternoon, but that's just silly.

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:47 AM (Qlfpj)

    94 This clown's knowledge is less than bumper sticker deep.

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 08:21 AM (eDfFs)

    Based on other statements he's made in the past, it looks like he knows *precisely* what he's doing and is evil rather than ignorant.
    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 04, 2024 08:38 AM (XjtdB)


    Evil? Probably.

    But, it looks like all he knows is "the bumper sticker".

    Notice how confidently he spouts the slogan, but when asked to explain it-

    he can't. He bumbles and stumbles around like Obama asked about the number of states in the United States of America.

    He's an idiot.

    That clown is simply used to people like Our Betters nodding sagely along with the bumper sticker slogan,

    He probably doesn't even understand the bumper sticker, he just knows he's taking down capitalism and the eeeeeeevil US of A.

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 08:48 AM (eDfFs)

    95 In the beginning, all the people in the garden were naked….then……mistakes were made by those people.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:48 AM (o2ZRX)

    96 91 Two words. Briers.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who worked for a consulting company once upon a time


    One word: MOSQUITOES
    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:44 AM (Qlfpj)

    Ticks.

    Chiggers. For God's sake, Chiggers.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:46 AM (di6C2)
    ----
    CATS!

    Posted by: Ciampino - meme of nekkid man under sink + cat at May 04, 2024 08:49 AM (qfLjt)

    97 For Derby Day...

    https://youtu.be/OiUjb2HRxEY

    Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at May 04, 2024 08:51 AM (dg+HA)

    98 In the beginning, all the people in the garden were naked….then……mistakes were made by those people.
    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:48 AM (o2ZRX)

    Concur. Archie Bunker said Adam and Eve had it pretty soft there in the Garden Of Eden, hell, they didn't even know they was naked. Then against direct orders Eve made Adam eat the apple. God got mad and told them to get their clothes on and get the hell out.

    More coffee...

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 08:53 AM (R/m4+)

    99 I'm actually busy today and heading out to the camp for some volunteer work.
    On subjects already raised, I'd advise going with the naked gardening day, and totally ignoring any coffee is (maybe) bad for you articles.
    Have a good weekend, over and out.

    Posted by: From about that Time at May 04, 2024 08:53 AM (4780s)

    100
    In the beginning, all the people in the garden were naked….then……mistakes were made bythose some people.*

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 08:48 AM (o2ZRX)



    * corrected for adherence to woke worldview

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 08:53 AM (eDfFs)

    101 Morning Horde.
    Prayers up for all asking and needing.
    One of my favorite on again off again girlfriends from High School passed away the day before yesterday.
    At 51.
    Suddenly but not unexpectedly.
    Don't know the details but looks like she was pretty sick for about a year.
    I hadn't seen her in about 15.
    I should stop being such a hermet and get out more. Never know when you see someone if it will be the last time.

    Posted by: Reforger at May 04, 2024 08:55 AM (B705c)

    102 Kind of an interesting take on lasagna:

    https://tinyurl.com/mtjukbw2

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 08:55 AM (di6C2)

    103
    I'd like to beg your pardon
    This limerick is a hard one
    On Naked Gardening Day
    I found one weird way
    For taking leeks in the garden

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:55 AM (vFG9F)

    104 BLM and Hamas interrupt University of Michigan graduation.

    https://tinyurl.com/yck3uvpp

    Posted by: Ciampino - beaten to a pulp? at May 04, 2024 08:55 AM (qfLjt)

    105 Have a great Saturday!

    Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 04, 2024 08:56 AM (Qlfpj)

    106
    Scratched - a limerick

    Pray for safety at the Derby race course
    May the wrongdoers not show up in force
    Whispering Pony is the fave
    Though he'll lose, the bookies rave
    But don't blame him. He's just a little hoarse!

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:57 AM (l4B/J)

    107 For taking leeks in the garden
    Posted by: fd

    ******

    Heh!

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:58 AM (l4B/J)

    108 Good morning caffeinated and prayerful Morons.

    Prayers for all intentions - those requested and those known but to God.

    Also - if you all could throw a few kind thoughts my way, I'd appreciate it. I'm back on Prednisone for a few more days and it always makes me meaner than a snake. Well, even meaner than normal, I guess.

    I feel bad for everyone around me.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:01 AM (WXNFJ)

    109 104 BLM and Hamas interrupt University of Michigan graduation.

    https://tinyurl.com/yck3uvpp
    Posted by: Ciampino

    More please! More extreme Leftist agitators fucking with normies, without consequence, right before a national election.

    Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 04, 2024 09:02 AM (nRD+p)

    110

    I'd like to dispel a certain rumor
    Naked Gardening has me in ill humor
    I'll garden in the buff
    Though it's going to be tough
    Having to get rid of my bloomers!

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 09:03 AM (l4B/J)

    111 107 For taking leeks in the garden
    Posted by: fd

    ******

    Heh!

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 08:58 AM (l4B/J)
    ----
    Leaks? Gotta be a Welsh limerick then (spoken in a John Lennon voice).

    Posted by: Ciampino - beaten to a pulp & refried? at May 04, 2024 09:03 AM (qfLjt)

    112 "Heh!
    Posted by: Muldoon"

    *bows to the Master*

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 09:03 AM (vFG9F)

    113 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)
    ---
    Today's Gardening Thread should be...interesting...
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 08:37 AM (BpYfr)

    Two words. Briers.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who worked for a consulting company once upon a time at May 04, 2024 08:39 AM (PiwSw)

    Ice Cream ?

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 09:03 AM (T4tVD)

    114 I should stop being such a hermet and get out more. Never know when you see someone if it will be the last time.
    Posted by: Reforger

    Most of my HS class was very close - along with their sibs and families. For some time now, most of us have been closing our goodbyes with "I love you" (and meaning it) for just the reason you mentioned.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:04 AM (WXNFJ)

    115 Prayers up for those that have asked us for them;
    Prayers up for those that know they need them but have not asked us for them;
    Prayers up for those that need them but don’t know it yet; and
    Prayers up for those who pray alone, asking for help in silence, and whose prayers are known but to God!

    And prayers up for all "our" politicians who have apparently decided that money and power are far more desirable than honor, let them see the error of their ways and repent!

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 04, 2024 09:04 AM (hOUT3)

    116 >>BLM and Hamas interrupt University of Michigan graduation.



    How not to win friends and influence people

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 09:05 AM (/7KEl)

    117 Prayers up for Alla Youse !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 09:07 AM (T4tVD)

    118 I'd like to beg your pardon
    This limerick is a hard one
    On Naked Gardening Day
    I found one weird way
    For taking leeks in the garden
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:55 AM (vFG9F)
    ---
    Taking leeks in the garden, did you? Take a strap to you, I should, look you.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 09:07 AM (llXky)

    119 And prayers up for all "our" politicians who have apparently decided that money and power are far more desirable than honor, let them see the error of their ways and repent!
    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

    Amen! This is the hard part - but most necessary - part of the 'love thy neighbor' thing for me.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:08 AM (WXNFJ)

    120 I feel bad for everyone around me.
    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:01 AM (WXNFJ)
    ===

    I got bad poison oak in San Diego treated with prednisone and almost started a bar fight.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 09:08 AM (RIvkX)

    121 Also - if you all could throw a few kind thoughts my way, I'd appreciate it. I'm back on Prednisone for a few more days and it always makes me meaner than a snake. Well, even meaner than normal, I guess.

    I feel bad for everyone around me.
    Posted by: Tonypete
    -----------
    Prednisone makes you average?
    I don't like prednisone either. Read the side effects & say, "yep." No fun.

    Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 09:08 AM (41CYW)

    122 store brand English muffin not as crunchy as national brand English muffin


    but costs half what the fancy costs

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 09:08 AM (/7KEl)

    123 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!

    Prayers up for your upcoming surgery, Mis Hum.

    Prayers up for the Horde, and may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel. I pray we continue to be worthy of that blessing.

    Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 04, 2024 09:09 AM (U3L4U)

    124
    Naked Gardening couldn't be newer
    With growing adherents, not fewer
    Fertilizer's a breeze
    It's so easy, you see
    To drop off your own manure!

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 09:09 AM (eDfFs)

    125 My grad ceremonies were by invitation only.
    Considering shootings/stabbings in churches, theaters, and arenas, I would condone shooting anyone trying to get in by force.

    Posted by: Ciampino - beaten to a pulp & refried! at May 04, 2024 09:10 AM (qfLjt)

    126 heh

    >>In an epic miscalculation that backfired spectacularly, prosecutors in the Manhattan hush money trial of Donald Trump called Hope Hicks to the witness stand. The moment cross-examination began, their misbegotten case against the former president began to collapse.

    https://tinyurl.com/324uz8cv

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 09:13 AM (LkLld)

    127 124
    manure is so sexist.
    personure? womanure?

    Posted by: Ciampino - can something be unminced? at May 04, 2024 09:13 AM (qfLjt)

    128 Here Come The Polls. Biden/Trump tied again. I just laugh my ass off. We just had a New York Congressional special election in the 26th district. Polls said the Democrat, Kennedy, would win by 10, he won by 37 fucking points. A Blue Wave is coming this Roevember!

    Hillary's loss suggests the assumption Trump was so unelectable meant Hillary was clearly going to win, so a lot of people voted 3rd party or stayed home with the assumption Hillary would win, and it hurt.

    The theory is people will stay home if the margin is too wide, so both campaigns will artificially make the race look closer? I'm not so sure that I agree with that theory. Won't people on both sides stay home if the margin is wide?

    Don't get me wrong, we need to overwhelm them at the ballot box because this isn't going to be a fair election, so whatever it takes to get every Democrat out to vote I am for it.


    It's entirely possible Biden wins running away. But based on the midterms, which were extremely close, the 2020 election which was also close, and the consistency of polling in an election year (as shown), I think we're looking at a nail biter.

    Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 04, 2024 09:14 AM (nRD+p)

    129 I got bad poison oak in San Diego treated with prednisone and almost started a bar fight.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho

    *********

    Seems like there may be more to this story...

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 09:14 AM (l4B/J)

    130 Woke up at 8
    I am already exhausted

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:14 AM (n/1xr)

    131 So funny.

    Former government official arrested for making fake tips to a government anonymous tip line.

    https://tinyurl.com/3by7dvsb

    Anonymous .... ha, pull the other one.

    Posted by: pawn at May 04, 2024 09:14 AM (QB+5g)

    132 Went to the first farmer's market of the season and got two 'maters, Aunt Ruby's German Green and Paul Robeson (yeah, he was a Commie symp but it's supposed to be a great variety). Technically too early to plant but I did it anyway.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 09:14 AM (Dxwuy)

    133 Prayers for all those listed intentions, for the well being of all the Horde, and for those who lost nearly everything in last week's tornados. The one that passed just west of our parish church & school did immense damage to dozens of homes. Miraculously, there was no loss of life but a huge outpouring of support from the community.

    Let us pray that we can all find ways to be God's hands and feet when our neighbors need us. It turns out to be a blessing for both those helping and those in need. It is humbling to see God's awesome power AND His healing grace at work simultaneously in a horrible yet wonderful situation.

    Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 04, 2024 09:15 AM (kOluj)

    134 Son now has a place to stay while he is doing his internship.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke

    Yay!

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:15 AM (n/1xr)

    135 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)

    Argh. Who made that up? Why is that a thing?? I'm getting hives imagining the perils.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 09:17 AM (OX9vb)

    136 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd

    Argh. Who made that up? Why is that a thing?? I'm getting hives imagining the perils.
    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

    All's I said was "Nice tomatoes!!" and that's when the fight started.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:19 AM (WXNFJ)

    137 135 If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)

    Argh. Who made that up? Why is that a thing?? I'm getting hives imagining the perils.
    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 09:17 AM (OX9vb)

    Rulz
    Photos
    Proof

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at May 04, 2024 09:20 AM (QXQ4l)

    138 Prednisone makes you average?
    I don't like prednisone either. Read the side effects & say, "yep." No fun.
    Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 09:08 AM (41CYW)

    I was prescribed prednisone for recurring bronchitis and sinus infections. Didn't get the script filled because I was alone in the house (kids were at grandparents while I was prepping the house to sell) and I'd heard bad stuff about the side effects.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 04, 2024 09:21 AM (XjtdB)

    139 Thank you all for your prayers. My daughter has taken her kids "up north" for the weekend with some of her friends from high school. We welcome the peace and quiet.

    The day before yesterday, my granddaughter just blurted out: "My dad is dead." I agreed. "That makes me said." I said it was okay for her to feel that way. "He rode to the hospital in an ambulance! That's where he died, in a hospital." I agreed. She then asked if we could go outside, and that's what we did.

    We're still sorting through things My daughter didn't file taxes because of everything going on, so I'm helping her with that. The new reality is sinking in, and that includes the fact that her ex will not get better and will no provide income for her. This means she will be here for a while longer and she has to look for work and so on.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 09:21 AM (llXky)

    140 Let us pray that we can all find ways to be God's hands and feet when our neighbors need us. It turns out to be a blessing for both those helping and those in need. It is humbling to see God's awesome power AND His healing grace at work simultaneously in a horrible yet wonderful situation.
    Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 04, 2024 09:15 AM (kOluj)
    ---
    Amen!

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 09:22 AM (llXky)

    141 She was only a stableman's daughter,
    But all the horsemen knew her.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 09:23 AM (dg+HA)

    142 Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 09:13 AM (LkLld)

    What on earth were they expecting from calling her as a witness?! Sounds like they ignored the first rule of lawyering.

    Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 04, 2024 09:23 AM (XjtdB)

    143 AH Lloyd, it would probably help your daughter to go to therapy. She's been through a lot.
    The kids too, separately, grief counseling.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:24 AM (n/1xr)

    144 I took prednisone for RA and it was wonderful but my blood glucose went off the charts. I had no other visible problems.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Is there a postdisone? at May 04, 2024 09:24 AM (qfLjt)

    145
    Technically too early to plant but I did it anyway.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 09:14 AM


    Same here. Soil temperature was in proper range (60 F), 10 day forecast shows no danger. Everything planted (corn, zucchini, tomatoes, spinach, lettuce) looks happy.

    Ordered an eighty gallon compost bin soon to arrive.

    I may be supremely confident that Trump (and the American people) will win in November, but it doesn't hurt to hedge the bet a little with some extra preppin'.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:25 AM (RKVpM)

    146 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 09:25 AM (ju2Fy)

    147 She's been through a lot.

    ***
    and is still going through

    Anyway, prayers continue for your family

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:25 AM (n/1xr)

    148 Good morning again, cafe folk!

    I'm shaved and showered, I've put out the garbage, and I don't have to get dressed up until about nine. Pretty good for a Saturday!

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:25 AM (omVj0)

    149 I'm shaved and showered, I've put out the garbage, and I don't have to get dressed up until about nine. Pretty good for a Saturday!
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

    IT'S ALREADY PAST 9!!! YOU'RE LATE!!!

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:27 AM (WXNFJ)

    150 All's I said was "Nice tomatoes!!" and that's when the fight started.
    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:19 AM (WXNFJ)


    "Your Honor, it was the prednisone talking."

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 09:27 AM (PiwSw)

    151 Wngd.org has more facts and pictures about Naked Gardening Day than you can shake a rake at. Beware, there's snakes in there.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 09:27 AM (vFG9F)

    152 All's I said was "Nice tomatoes!!" and that's when the fight started.
    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024 09:19 AM (WXNFJ)

    *snort

    And Muldoon, you just stop. There will be no photos because this girl will not garden nekkid.

    *too much of a prude to walk around the house that way, tbh.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 04, 2024 09:27 AM (OX9vb)

    153 AH Lloyd, it would probably help your daughter to go to therapy. She's been through a lot.
    The kids too, separately, grief counseling.
    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:24 AM (n/1xr)
    ---
    There are a lot of things she should probably do but isn't, and many things shouldn't do and still does. I've got limited options in terms of advice.

    As for the kids, I've not been impressed with the results of therapy. A lot of the kiddie shrinks around here are very trans affirming, and you never know if one of them is going to dime you out to CPS (which has already happened).

    A sad state of affairs, but that's where we are.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 09:28 AM (llXky)

    154 I'm shaved and showered, I've put out the garbage, and I don't have to get dressed up until about nine. Pretty good for a Saturday!
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
    *
    IT'S ALREADY PAST 9!!! YOU'RE LATE!!!
    Posted by: Tonypete at May 04, 2024


    ***
    * A vision of me scurrying, tucking my pocket watch into my vest and muttering, "Oh, my paws and whiskers!" *

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:28 AM (omVj0)

    155 I'm trying to figure out if it's good that this meal is $3.50 in Zimbabwe or bad that it four or so years ago that it cost almost the same in the U.S. (Wendys $4 bag)
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:30 AM (YsjiM)


    Inflation has more to do with how much money there is in the local system than they currency.

    I think all the money that is poured into Zimbabwe is pouring out to cover balance of payment issues caused by the Zimb Schilling's hyperinflation.
    It is sort of like why consumer goods made in China are more expensive in Los Angeles than in Billings Montana

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:29 AM (D7oie)

    156
    Let us pray that we can all find ways to be God's hands and feet when our neighbors need us.

    "No one can help everyone, but everyone can help someone."

    -- I know President Reagan said it but I'm not sure of original source

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:30 AM (RKVpM)

    157 6 Caturday!! Is it okay to bloviate nekkid then?

    Posted by: Ciampino - pronouns & proadjectives & proverbs at May 04, 2024 08:09 AM (qfLjt)

    42 "Is it okay to bloviate nekkid then?"

    If you are in the garden. It's Naked Gardening Day.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 08:25 AM (vFG9F)
    ----
    Meme: naked guy in his garden with high fence all round.
    Caption: If you gsrden nekkid, your nrighbors will build you a fence for free.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Nekkid gardening? Careful of rakes & forks at May 04, 2024 09:31 AM (qfLjt)

    158 Nobody tell Ackbar about Nekkid Gardening Day.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 09:32 AM (PiwSw)

    159 Woke up at 8
    I am already exhausted
    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024


    ***
    Me too, vmom. Mentally, anyway. When I went to bed last night, I spent an hour coughing as if the Coof had hit me. Finally I gave in and took two cold/flu pills with acetaminophen, which I usually avoid. But I slept seven hours and had no real side effects. Odd to relate, but a short pipe smoke this morning with my coffee cleared my nasal passages up.

    Maybe I won't need the cold pills tonight . . . but I'm prepared to take them again if I have to.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:32 AM (omVj0)

    160 Prednisone: as several mentioned upper respiratory here too. The children made up a "Cranky Dad" song for whenever I was taking that. Became a running gag whenever I went to the Dr.

    Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 09:33 AM (41CYW)

    161 Prayers for all who need them whether spoken or in their hearts.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 09:35 AM (RqOAG)

    162 155
    I think all the money that is poured into Zimbabwe is pouring out to cover balance of payment issues caused by the Zimb Schilling's hyperinflation.
    It is sort of like why consumer goods made in China are more expensive in Los Angeles than in Billings Montana

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:29 AM (D7oie)
    ----
    Shilling.
    Also US $ is legal currency.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Nekkid gardening? Careful of rakes & forks! at May 04, 2024 09:35 AM (qfLjt)

    163 If you check out wngd.org you will see that many gardens have bushes.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 09:36 AM (vFG9F)

    164 >>What on earth were they expecting from calling her as a witness?! Sounds like they ignored the first rule of lawyering.

    I don't the goal was ever to put Trump behind bars. It was just to dirty him up with accusations and hamstring his campaign.

    I get that this is NYC and convicting Trump should be pretty easy but there is literally no crime here. Nothing Trump did was illegal.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 09:36 AM (LkLld)

    165 On the retirement front: Yesterday I composed my letter for my boss, who'll be back on Monday. I want to retire by the last day of May, or I will lose half of my banked vacation hours, a significant chunk of money. Now, if he wants me to work two more months, say, and I agree, I can make that up out of my usual savings. But I don't want to stay that long.

    Plus we are slated to move offices sometime in the near future. Guess who'll be in charge of organizing that? No, I want to skip that and the commute, parking, and other hassles.

    Miss Linda is decidedly unthrilled by the whole idea.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:36 AM (omVj0)

    166 For all those who lament the fall of the saga: May the 4th be with you.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 09:36 AM (RqOAG)

    167 I may be supremely confident that Trump (and the American people) will win in November, but it doesn't hurt to hedge the bet a little with some extra preppin'.
    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:25 AM (RKVpM)
    ---
    I am not at all confident about that. I think larger forces are in play. The past couple of years have me firmly convinced that demons are real, and taking an active role in the world.

    We keep trying to explain away bizarre behavior, but it makes perfect sense if you consider the goals of the Enemy. That is what we have to concentrate on, and we are turning the tide through prayer, fasting, almsgiving and spreading the faith.

    I've noticed that our bishop has gently reminded anyone that while the American Church no longer enforces obligatory abstention from meat on Fridays outside of Lent, it is expected that some other penance be performed if meat is consumed, such as a Rosary or fasting.

    A nearby parish is being renovated and restored to its pre-Vatican II appearance, including the altar rail. People are feeling it everywhere. When people say "we can't vote our way out of this," I used to disdain them, but now I agree.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 09:37 AM (llXky)

    168 We used to garden nekkid. It was all going great, but there was "an incident."

    Posted by: Adam and Eve at May 04, 2024 09:38 AM (dg+HA)

    169 Interesting about all the folks with Prednisone probs.

    Aside from the anti-inflammatory stuff, it does nothing else except maybe make going to sleep a bit more difficult.

    Hmmm. Maybe I'll start using it in cocktails....

    Prednisone Colada! Here I come.

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 09:38 AM (eDfFs)

    170 "For all those who lament the fall of the saga: May the 4th be with you.
    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron"

    FMH

    or

    FLS


    Whichever you prefer.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 09:38 AM (vFG9F)

    171 For a laugh (someone had time and imagination)

    https://tinyurl.com/2yycx4pd

    Posted by: Ciampino - Nekkid gardening? Careful of rakes & forks!! at May 04, 2024 09:39 AM (qfLjt)

    172 Coffee related - I met a lady with really gorgeous long hair, on which I complimented her.

    She looked very flattered, and confided that her hair had been thinning and she'd tried all the usual derm stuff - minoxidil etc - but what finally seemed to help was taking collagen.

    Thereupon I started adding a half scoop of powdered collagen (from hubby's stash of supplements) to my morning coffee. It has no taste, but it seems to remove some of the coffee's acidity.

    I can't tell if my hair is improving yet.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:39 AM (n/1xr)

    173 Prednisone: as several mentioned upper respiratory here too. The children made up a "Cranky Dad" song for whenever I was taking that. Became a running gag whenever I went to the Dr.
    Posted by: scampydog

    Betterhalf warned the kids whenever I had to take it.
    No song, I feel slighted.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 09:40 AM (RqOAG)

    174 Thanks for this Thread, MisHum !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 09:41 AM (T4tVD)

    175 I've been on prednisone for seven months. Doesn't affect me other than weight gain.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 09:42 AM (yeEu9)

    176
    Skinflint - a limerick

    I had an elderly neighbor named Boone
    Who bent over in his garden. I got mooned!
    He had so many wrinkles
    There amongst his periwinkles
    His apple trees weren't all that was pruned

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 09:42 AM (l4B/J)

    177
    Thereupon I started adding a half scoop of powdered collagen (from hubby's stash of supplements) to my morning coffee. It has no taste, but it seems to remove some of the coffee's acidity.

    I can't tell if my hair is improving yet.
    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024


    ***
    Vmom, where can you buy that stuff?

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:43 AM (omVj0)

    178
    I can't tell if my hair is improving yet.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:39 AM (n/1xr)



    Take Prednisone!

    It's good for what ails you!*



    *also you might get more stabby stabby into your days.

    Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2024 09:43 AM (eDfFs)

    179 Prayers for all. I have a prayer request. My SIL and daughter are headed north today. My SIL is interviewing with the Republican county leaders of a neighboring county for the interim position of Prosecuting Attorney. Their objective is to determine if he is electable. He's going into MAGA country and he's not necessarily a Trump supporter. He can't stand Biden but I'm not sure who he supports. He's definitely qualified for the job and has the values that mesh. Getting my kids out of Spokane is consistently on my prayer list. It would add an hour or so to any trip to see them, including a mountain pass, but that's a small price to pay. It's a beautiful area. I would love to see my grandkids grow up in an area like that.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 09:43 AM (i7KoL)

    180 I get collagen from Amazon. Take it for arthritis.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 09:44 AM (yeEu9)

    181 When preparing for a trip, one should set the time of departure for at least two hours before one wishes to depart in order to depart at the time one wishes regardless of one's significant other's thoughts on the subject.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 09:44 AM (vFG9F)

    182 I think I’ll garden naked thought Harry,
    Truth be told he should’ve been wary.
    He went to give the hedge a clip,
    And took a fateful slip.
    And Harry is now known as Mary.

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 04, 2024 09:45 AM (u73oe)

    183 A simple explanation of our economy over the last fifty years is that advances in technology and global outsourcing have made making things much more efficient, which should have lowered prices substantially for all sorts of things, but this deflationary benefit was eaten up by growth in government (5 to 20% of jobs), bloated big company payrolls, and government handouts.

    People with "Mike Rowe" jobs saw little or no benefit from this.

    And there's a high correlation between the split between those who've benifitted and those who have not, to the increasing political divide between MAGA America and those in the Borg.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 09:45 AM (Gse2f)

    184 Good morning Horde, it is currently sunny here, who knows how long it will last, clouds and rain are predicted. I best get to doing what needs doing around here. Prayers for all who need them, enjoy your Saturday.

    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 09:45 AM (Sgq8y)

    185 When preparing for a trip, one should set the time of departure for at least two hours before one wishes to depart in order to depart at the time one wishes regardless of one's significant other's thoughts on the subject.
    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024


    ***
    True.

    Steinbeck told us in Travels With Charley that "In any long-range planning for a trip, there is always a private conviction that it won't happen." I guess we all have to work through that.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:46 AM (omVj0)

    186 Pondering gardening with bits and bobs in the breeze invokes shear terror...

    😗

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 09:47 AM (l4B/J)

    187 For all those who lament the fall of the saga: May the 4th be with you.
    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 09:36 AM (RqOAG)


    I am waiting for July 6 - July 6 Park day for all our Jurassic Park themed activities!

    https://youtu.be/l52vJb4OXcQ

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:47 AM (D7oie)

    188
    I can't tell if my hair is improving yet.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 09:39 AM


    My wife, with big thick 70's hair, has been taking it for a month. No change in hair but her skin looks more firm, and her nails are longer and stronger.

    Wolfus Aurelius:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VK1ZS2

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:47 AM (RKVpM)

    189 >>I am not at all confident about that. I think larger forces are in play. The past couple of years have me firmly convinced that demons are real, and taking an active role in the world.

    I don't think what's happening is very mysterious, particularly not when the enemy tells you what they are going to do and then do it.

    The globalists have been jonesing for one world government since the end of WWII and they've been using globalist organizations like the UN and NGOs to accomplish their goals. The bigger problem is getting people to look at what is happening and realize it's all connected. It's not just a series of random events, it's all part of plan.

    Many people wrote all of this off as a wild conspiracy theory and laughed it off for years. Not so funny now that it is happening.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 09:48 AM (LkLld)

    190 I've never been into plants (except for occasional items of food) or gardening. To me, plants are just, you know, *there*. They don't *do* anything with you, unlike cats and dogs. Yes, they grow, and they flower or scatter leaves all over, but that's not something you can interact with like having a cat on your lap.

    I've always said I like the low-maintenance kind of plant. Say, silk ones.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:49 AM (omVj0)

    191
    @nypost
    Hims and Hers stock plummets 8% after CEO says he is ‘eager’ to hire anti-Israel protesters


    Anyway.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:50 AM (RKVpM)

    192 180 I get collagen from Amazon. Take it for arthritis.
    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 09:44 AM (yeEu9)


    Costco (if you have one near you) has it and often on sale!

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 04, 2024 09:51 AM (hOUT3)

    193 My wife, with big thick 70's hair, has been taking it for a month. No change in hair but her skin looks more firm, and her nails are longer and stronger.

    Wolfus Aurelius:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VK1ZS2
    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024


    ***
    How many pills in a given dose? A bottle of 390 would last a while, even if you take 2-3 a day.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:52 AM (omVj0)

    194 Got to go. New Weber grill assembly Day #2 begins...

    Who knew a grill had so many parts?

    I should have left the First aAssembly to God.

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 04, 2024 09:52 AM (l4B/J)

    195 Shilling.
    Also US $ is legal currency.
    Posted by: Ciampino - Nekkid gardening? Careful of rakes & forks! at May 04, 2024 09:35 AM (qfLjt)


    Gotcha, the extra c is germanic

    However, the lack of bills and coin is is a reflection on the availability of USD, and a nearly complete lack of banking for any sort of credit.
    this is one of the reasons El Salvador went to the Chivo wallet / lightning network for bitcoin. Not because Bitcoin solves anything, but because it makes money transfer independent of their fairly primitive banking system that did not service rural areas where most of the actual need for banking was.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 09:54 AM (D7oie)

    196 I get collagen from Amazon. Take it for arthritis.
    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 09:44 AM (yeEu9)

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    Me too. And also the extra protein.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 09:54 AM (FzDG4)

    197
    Joe Rogan - The 'protestor's' wearing masks is their MAGA hat.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:55 AM (RKVpM)

    198 money that is poured into Zimbabwe is pouring out to cover balance of payment issues caused by the Zimb Schilling's hyperinflation.
    It is sort of like why consumer goods made in China are more expensive in Los Angeles than in Billings Montana
    -

    My point was that the US dollar is what world trade occurs in. When it is in trouble the rest of the world follows.

    The left will scream that the economy and inflation isn't Bidens fault because other countries that trade and base the value of their currency against the dollar are also experiencing inflation.

    Of course they are. How else would that work?

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 09:56 AM (RRLgz)

    199
    How many pills in a given dose? A bottle of 390 would last a while, even if you take 2-3 a day.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:52 AM


    Recommended dose is 6/day. My wife takes 2/day. But she's like 100# dripping wet.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 09:56 AM (RKVpM)

    200 BLM and antifa had a kid. The kid went to college, but didn't attend classes.

    This generation is doomed. The teenagers right behind these idiots smell blood in the water. They will stomp these snowflakes on the head as they run roughshod over them in every endeavor.

    Kids can be cruel and ruthless when it suits them.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 09:58 AM (Q4IgG)

    201 I've always said I like the low-maintenance kind of plant.
    -

    Find a friend that will give you a piece of their pothos (or buy one I guess).

    Very pretty, very hearty, not terribly showy, but nice to have a real plant in the room. Ridiculously easy to keep alive.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 09:59 AM (RRLgz)

    202 Getting my kids out of Spokane is consistently on my prayer list.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 09:43 AM (i7KoL)

    =====

    Prayers up! I would love to get out of here myself. Side note: husband's friend is running for CMR's seat. Brian Dansel, solid MAGA guy. If you're voting, give him a look. He's from Republic.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 09:59 AM (FzDG4)

    203 One of Eric Claptons biggest hits.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:00 AM (RRLgz)

    204 190
    Wolfus, I find a certain beauty in seeing a seed germinate, and a sense of wonder, satisfaction and accomplishment in rooting a plant from a cutting.

    Posted by: Ciampino - I rooted bouganvillea and other people's rose trimmings at May 04, 2024 10:00 AM (qfLjt)

    205 "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy..."

    Posted by: John 10:10 at May 04, 2024 10:02 AM (dg+HA)

    206 184 Good morning Horde, it is currently sunny here, who knows how long it will last, clouds and rain are predicted. I best get to doing what needs doing around here. Prayers for all who need them, enjoy your Saturday.
    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 09:45 AM (Sgq8y)

    A pleasure to see you this morning Debby

    Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at May 04, 2024 10:03 AM (QXQ4l)

    207 When Covid broke there was much uncertainty over how bad it would be, more so than with new strains of the flu that routinely appear.

    That's because it was created in a bio-weapons lab.
    And insiders like Fauci fully understood the uncertainty.

    I'd bet that Trump knew of this uncertainty early and took a cautious approach. Without the aura of immunity created by the vaccine, America wouldn't have gone back to work. Even if the shots had been placebos, they helped limit the panic so people did go back to work,

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (Gse2f)

    208 One does get the sense that the NYC prosecutorial team is not their A-Team. They found some people who had zero legal sense, or at least legal ethics, and who weren't bright enough to realize how stupid they would be made to look. I suppose it was a matter of making their bones with the Dem party, so they'd be protected from here on in, or so they thought.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (CsUN+)

    209 Find a friend that will give you a piece of their pothos (or buy one I guess).

    Very pretty, very hearty, not terribly showy, but nice to have a real plant in the room. Ridiculously easy to keep alive.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024


    ***
    That's part of my problem. How do you know it's still alive? Unlike an animal, it doesn't move normally, so when it's sitting there alive, it looks the same to me as it would dead. (Yeah, I know, parts of it will turn brown and drop off.)

    I also have to consider my cats. Certainly I don't want a plant that, if they chew part of it, will make them sick. I love the way poinsettias look -- but I've read they can kill a cat who eats it.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (omVj0)

    210

    I've noticed that our bishop has gently reminded anyone that while the American Church no longer enforces obligatory abstention from meat on Fridays outside of Lent, it is expected that some other penance be performed if meat is consumed, such as a Rosary or fasting.

    ____________

    I don't listen to my music on Fridays. Living on the Gulf Coast, fish on Friday is no penance.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (MoZTd)

    211 Got to go. New Weber grill assembly Day #2 begins...

    Who knew a grill had so many parts?

    I should have left the First aAssembly to God.
    Posted by: Muldoon


    Save the instructions so that four years from now you can take it apart to replace the ignitors.

    Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (SC8eW)

    212 deflationary benefit was eaten up by growth in government (5 to 20% of jobs), bloated big company payrolls, and government handouts.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 09:45 AM (Gse2f)
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    Rising wages are an effect of inflation, never the cause. The cause is an increase in money supply, and that's been underway since the late 1960s. Peacetime deficits were generally unknown prior to that time, and now they are endemic. Dropping the gold standard allowed unlimited money production, and the "target" of 3% was set to numb the pain without shutting off the spigot.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:05 AM (llXky)

    213 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at May 04, 2024 10:03 AM (QXQ4l)

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    Hey MisHum! I hope all goes well on Monday.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 10:05 AM (FzDG4)

    214 There is currently a dust storm here.
    It is being caused by a 500cc atv pulling a section of rail fencing weighted down by 2 corny kegs of water (80lbs).

    The weeds are drying up so it is time to knock them all down.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:06 AM (RqOAG)

    215 Ergh. The sun has just come out; and around here with the savage humidity, even in May, that makes moving around outdoors a constant drag.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 10:06 AM (omVj0)

    216 How broke is Hollywood?

    They are going to reboot "The Maze Runner."

    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 04, 2024 10:06 AM (h49Nh)

    217 So what happened to all those dangerous variants we were warned about?

    Posted by: I gotta ask at May 04, 2024 10:07 AM (dg+HA)

    218
    Hey MisHum! I hope all goes well on Monday.
    Posted by: Jordan61

    Yup, prayers for the surgical team as well as MisHum and the Fabulous.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:07 AM (RqOAG)

    219 Got to go. New Weber grill assembly Day #2 begins...

    Who knew a grill had so many parts?


    As I usually do, I bought a cheapie Chinese grill because I just can't stomach the price for a Weber. It is rapidly undergoing entropy, and won't last beyond 5 years. I'm beginning to rethink my position.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:07 AM (CsUN+)

    220 Impossible to keep plants with many cats. Either the plant is poisonous to cats or they'll dig the soil, pee in the pot, etc. Or even eat it.
    Knock it over.

    Posted by: Ciampino - cat metabolism is poor at May 04, 2024 10:07 AM (qfLjt)

    221 I've always said I like the low-maintenance kind of plant. Say, silk ones.
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 09:49 AM (omVj0)

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    I'm with you. I have a black thumb.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 10:07 AM (FzDG4)

    222 He's from Republic.
    Posted by: Jordan61

    That's where the PA job is. I think your friend has a solid chance. CMR's base is seriously eroded in these parts. People are seeing her for who she is. Get the Donald's support and he would kick her ass.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:08 AM (i7KoL)

    223 Rising wages are an effect of inflation, never the cause. The cause is an increase in money supply, and that's been underway since the late 1960s. Peacetime deficits were...
    -

    If yall haven't watched the head of our economic policy linked in comment #26, you really need to.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RRLgz)

    224
    I like growing my own food for consumption as I know it has been grown in nutrient rich soil. It's not coming from a 'factory farm' that pulls all the zinc from the soil and never replenishes it.

    Zinc is big time necessary for protection from virus. The countries with the highest percentage of zinc in the soil were virtually untouched by covid. USA soil is middling. Probably venturing into the poor range based on economic pressures to keep costs low.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 10:09 AM (RKVpM)

    225 How broke is Hollywood?

    They are going to reboot "The Maze Runner."


    Wow. Can a reboot of Ernest Goes to Jail be far behind?

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:09 AM (CsUN+)

    226 All the variants got married and lived happily ever after in Sam Brinton.

    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 04, 2024 10:09 AM (h49Nh)

    227 Plants, even well-made fakes, look great, but I'm never sure what kinds I should get. An old girlfriend some *mumble-mumble* years ago gave me a silk fake ivy plant in a brass mini-tub. It still sits atop one of my bookcases where the cats can't reach it.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 10:10 AM (omVj0)

    228 When Covid broke there was much uncertainty over how bad it would be, more so than with new strains of the flu that routinely appear.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (Gse2f)
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    We still have no idea how deadly it was in China. When it got over here, it may have already been weakening.

    But there is also the fact that during those terrible days, a massive global prayer session was underway, and while people constantly complain about churches closing their doors, they were not inactive. There were all sorts of Eucharistic processions, some by plane. The Masses were still celebrated, and our family gathered for prayer every day, something that just sort of fell away.

    I think the surge in conversions we are seeing is a result of this brush with pestilence.

    I think it is important that one express relief that it was overblown, because sometimes I get the impression that people wanted it to be worse.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:11 AM (llXky)

    229 Yeah, the best part of the PITA assembly of a Weber is knowing you won't need to do it again for ten years.

    Although fair warning, they changed the quality of the grates and those need replacing every couple of years now.

    I broke down and spent way too much on a coyote will marine stainless everything and 1/4 stainless grates. It will probably be the last grill I ever purchase. Lots upfront or $150 every few years, so I decided to bite the bullet.

    It's been fantastic so far.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:11 AM (RRLgz)

    230 >>One does get the sense that the NYC prosecutorial team is not their A-Team.

    Neither is Fani or Jack Smith.

    None of these cases are real. It's just more Russia collusion type BS. As some like to say, the process is the punishment.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:12 AM (LkLld)

    231 That's where the PA job is. I think your friend has a solid chance. CMR's base is seriously eroded in these parts. People are seeing her for who she is. Get the Donald's support and he would kick her ass.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:08 AM (i7KoL)

    =====

    She's actually not running for reelection. So there are something like 12 people running to get her seat. A couple of Spokane city council members, the mayor of Medical Lake, the state rep for that area. Brian just got the endorsement from the state GOP. I don't know if that's good or bad. LOL.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 10:12 AM (FzDG4)

    232 >>How broke is Hollywood?

    They are going to reboot "The Maze Runner."



    Uhhh, that makes no sense.
    Oh wait, it had a white male lead and the two of the three prominent "bad guys" were women.

    Safe to assume in the new version it will Zendaya as the lead?

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 10:13 AM (cCVOS)

    233 Plants, even well-made fakes, look great, but I'm never sure what kinds I should get.
    -

    A couple of showy orchids. No one expects any other plants in the home of anyone who can maintain orchids.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:13 AM (RRLgz)

    234 All the variants got married and lived happily ever after in Sam Brinton.
    Posted by: Anna Puma

    Oh. That explains a lot. Thanks.

    Posted by: I gotta ask at May 04, 2024 10:13 AM (dg+HA)

    235 If yall haven't watched the head of our economic policy linked in comment #26, you really need to.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RRLgz)
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    No, I'm aware of how stupid and ignorant these people are. No need to wallow in it.

    Was it Yellen or some other dope who did the "Gosh, I never realized that exporting all our manufacturing jobs wouldn't be an economic benefit! Who knew?"

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:14 AM (llXky)

    236 @212
    If you look at GNP per capita by state you'll see that NYS is #2. But #1 DC is about twice that of NYS.

    These places suck all the money out of the rest of the country with government mandates that create skim for those in the Borg.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (Gse2f)

    237 No, I'm aware of how stupid and ignorant these people are.

    -

    I'm not saying this lightly or smart alecky:

    You're really not. I'm not joking when I say they could replace him with KJP and there wouldn't be a noticeable difference.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (RRLgz)

    238 One does get the sense that the NYC prosecutorial team is not their A-Team.

    Neither is Fani or Jack Smith.

    None of these cases are real. It's just more Russia collusion type BS. As some like to say, the process is the punishment.


    Which is smart, if legally unethical, unless the efforts are so obviously corrupt that what should have been getting dragged through the mud turns into a campaign contribution. I think we are now firmly at that stage.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (CsUN+)

    239 Notsothoreau, Jordan, I take Boron for my fingers. The swelling in the joints seems less and the weather related flare ups is less

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:16 AM (D7oie)

    240 We have a tabletop Webber grill for when we want something cooked over charcoal. We'll buy one of those little one-and-done bags of briquettes and fire it up.

    Most of the time I use the gas grill, griddle or the Traeger.

    But sometimes you just want old school burgers or dogs.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 10:16 AM (Q4IgG)

    241 These places suck all the money out of the rest of the country with government mandates that create skim for those in the Borg.
    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (Gse2f)


    One of the many side benefits of Our Precious Democracy, ja!

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 04, 2024 10:16 AM (hOUT3)

    242 Jordan61

    Speaks to my attitude lately that I'm unaware that Cathy is riding off into the darkness. Good riddance Cathy. We won't miss you.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:16 AM (i7KoL)

    243 We used to be a thing.

    Posted by: African violets at May 04, 2024 10:16 AM (dg+HA)

    244 ... they'll dig the soil, pee in the pot, etc. Or even eat it.
    Knock it over.
    Posted by: Ciampino - cat metabolism is poor at May 04, 2024 10:07 AM (qfLjt)
    ===
    You got our message.

    Posted by: The Cats at May 04, 2024 10:17 AM (RIvkX)

    245 Vmom, where can you buy that stuff?
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

    I think hubby gets it from Amazon or Costco.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 04, 2024 10:17 AM (n/1xr)

    246 One does get the sense that the NYC prosecutorial team is not their A-Team.
    -

    Throwing grenades that don't damage anyone, destroying structures with no thought or concern of the costs involved, and doing it all to sell commercials and create interesting TV viewing for a small percentage of the population?

    Sounds like the A Team to me.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:18 AM (RRLgz)

    247 I broke down and spent way too much on a coyote will marine stainless everything and 1/4 stainless grates. It will probably be the last grill I ever purchase. Lots upfront or $150 every few years, so I decided to bite the bullet.

    It's been fantastic so far.


    I'd never heard of them before. It's a grill, not a new car.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:18 AM (CsUN+)

    248 You're really not. I'm not joking when I say they could replace him with KJP and there wouldn't be a noticeable difference.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (RRLgz)
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    Oh, I get what you mean, but I just don't hate myself to sit through that on the weekend - I get enough of it at work.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:19 AM (llXky)

    249 Go to Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace and buy a used Weber gas grill for cheap. Replace a few parts and it will last for a decade.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 10:19 AM (dg+HA)

    250 Throwing grenades that don't damage anyone, destroying structures with no thought or concern of the costs involved, and doing it all to sell commercials and create interesting TV viewing for a small percentage of the population?

    Sounds like the A Team to me.


    Fair. Perhaps we can get Alvin Bragg to say "I pity the fool".

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:19 AM (CsUN+)

    251 I'd never heard of them before. It's a grill, not a new car.
    -

    Got ours for $1000 on clearance. Still tough to talk the wife into, but now she's glad we did. Especially since decent webers are there and higher now.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:20 AM (RRLgz)

    252 Got ours for $1000 on clearance. Still tough to talk the wife into, but now she's glad we did. Especially since decent webers are there and higher now.

    At that price, I might buy it as well, but the 4-burner models I saw after Googling were > $3k.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:21 AM (CsUN+)

    253 JJ….yikes,! Prayers to you.

    Posted by: FINGERS at May 04, 2024 10:21 AM (yEWKL)

    254 Jordan, if you are seriously looking at moving out of the city, but staying in the area, take a look in DP north of you. Relatively easy commute to Spokane. It's where I go to church and shop. Driving through there the other evening I couldn't help but notice all the young kids riding there bikes and playing unsupervised. Reminded me of my childhood a bit.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:21 AM (i7KoL)

    255 En mi casa toman Bustelo!

    Posted by: Cuppa Joe at May 04, 2024 10:22 AM (V5BDR)

    256 >>Which is smart, if legally unethical, unless the efforts are so obviously corrupt that what should have been getting dragged through the mud turns into a campaign contribution. I think we are now firmly at that stage.

    I don't think there's much question. There won't be any convincing of the hard left but most of the country isn't hard left and they can see how corrupt and unfair this stuff is even if they don't like Trump.


    One of the J6 defendants recently got 12 years for tresspassing and breaking 2 windows at the Capitol. Bragg says he hasn't decided whether he would prosecute the Hamas supporters who vandalized and took over a buildiing at Columbia. Everyone can see we have a two tiered justice system and the Trump stuff is just highlighting it.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:24 AM (LkLld)

    257 A.H. Lloyd--

    Your comment about the restored altar rail made me a little sad because my childhood church has gone strongly in the opposite direction. When I was growing up the bulk of the congregation was made up of German and Scandinavian Lutheran families and their descendants. Unfortunately, the church is in Austin within walking distance of the UT campus. You can guess what happened.

    Out of curiosity I checked in on their online Easter service. Of course the altar rail and everything setting the altar apart are gone. (The huge carved German altar is still there but it's probably too heavy to move.)

    Before the service began there was an acoustic guitarist playing...a Scott Joplin rag...on Easter Sunday. Sigh.

    Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 04, 2024 10:24 AM (FEVMW)

    258 Most of the time I use the gas grill, griddle or the Traeger.

    But sometimes you just want old school burgers or dogs.


    I finally had to toss the old Weber kettle when we moved a couple years ago and haven't replaced it with anything yet. I get seduced by the ease and speed of gas grills but really some of the best burgers and steaks I've made have been on the kettle.

    Posted by: Oddbob at May 04, 2024 10:26 AM (/y8xj)

    259 233 Plants, even well-made fakes, look great, but I'm never sure what kinds I should get.
    -

    A couple of showy orchids. No one expects any other plants in the home of anyone who can maintain orchids.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie -
    ----
    Yeah but then you'll have to water them with that special synthetic, dehydrated water and it's expensive. Make sure they don't give you dehydrated heavy water instead.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Instant Water - just add coffee at May 04, 2024 10:27 AM (qfLjt)

    260 Read the side effects & say, "yep."
    ========================
    Am I the only one who has a different def. of "possible" as in "possible side effects might include..."? If it says possible, that means probable or certainly for me.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2024 10:27 AM (lPeS+)

    261 But how will she vote in November?



    Democrat of course.
    For these people party is above all else.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:27 AM (pASRM)

    262 Cinco De Crapo is coming up tomorrow.

    A fake holiday from a broken country to sell beer and tacos.

    Count me in!

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 10:28 AM (R/m4+)

    263 Jordan, if you are seriously looking at moving out of the city, but staying in the area, take a look in DP north of you. Relatively easy commute to Spokane. It's where I go to church and shop. Driving through there the other evening I couldn't help but notice all the young kids riding there bikes and playing unsupervised. Reminded me of my childhood a bit.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:21 AM (i7KoL)

    =====

    Hey, thanks! I've been past there on our trips to visit Flounder & Family, but never really stopped to look around.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 10:28 AM (FzDG4)

    264 Bragg says he hasn't decided whether he would prosecute the Hamas supporters who vandalized and took over a buildiing at Columbia.
    -

    Remember when they were federal facilities performing official business when it came time for employees to get mandatory shots?

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:28 AM (YsjiM)

    265 Lost a good friend of 60 years last week. We lost contact about 50 years ago when I wandered off into the wilderness. We reconnected eventually. Hit harder than I expected.

    Posted by: javems at May 04, 2024 10:28 AM (8I4hW)

    266 Got a nice fillet of monkfish at the gourmet grocers. Haven't had monkfish in forever. It used to be called "the poor man's lobster" but at today's prices it's "the rich man's poor man's lobster".

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:30 AM (FkUwd)

    267 You're really not. I'm not joking when I say they could replace him with KJP and there wouldn't be a noticeable difference.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (RRLgz)
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    A friend of mine took his mother to an Easter service at a Lutheran chuch last year and she barely made it through it. When they got to the car she said that she'd rather go to a Catholic Mass than submit to that.

    Pope Francis seems to be going on a tear, and I think it is because his health is clearly failing, and his faction know that they are the end of the line. Liberal Catholicism is about to become extinct. So they rage and knock over as much as they can, but all they are doing is pushing people deeper into orthodoxy.

    Basically, by defying God, they are doing His will.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:30 AM (llXky)

    268 We bought a little $20 Char-Broil gas grill from Walmart for the camper a year or so ago and it's been great. If you don't have much room or just want something cheap and easy I highly recommend it:

    https://tinyurl.com/25xbarh2

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:30 AM (YsjiM)

    269 If you look at GNP per capita by state you'll see that NYS is #2. But #1 DC is about twice that of NYS.

    These places suck all the money out of the rest of the country with government mandates that create skim for those in the Borg.
    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 10:15 AM (Gse2f)


    Money creation leverages the Cantillon effect for the government, it allows it lots and lots of money that they can use to buy goods and services at the price before the effect of the inflation starts eating the money's value away, and the people further down the chain get to pay the "new" prices after the higher inflation prices start to take effect. There is also the effect of rising prices due to inflation making goods harder to sell, so the production costs have to be cut, mostly by reducing quality, variety and customer-focused elements like being easy to use or pleasant to touch.


    "I am a leek" indeed.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:30 AM (D7oie)

    270 Best part of a Monkfish?
    The inner piece.

    Posted by: Oh, no. Fish punz at May 04, 2024 10:31 AM (dg+HA)

    271 Democrat of course.
    For these people party is above all else.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:27 AM (pASRM)
    ---
    All people are spiritual. They all have some form of faith, even if they insist that they don't. I know a woman who has changed religions have a dozen times, but she's never left the Democrats.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:32 AM (llXky)

    272 Best part of a Monkfish?
    The inner piece.


    It's good for the sole.

    Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2024 10:32 AM (CsUN+)

    273 243 We used to be a thing.

    Posted by: African violets at May 04, 2024 10:16 AM (dg+HA)
    ----
    Never bought one but instead rooted a leaf begged or stolen. That way I knew what color flowers it would produce.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Instant Water - just add coffee? at May 04, 2024 10:32 AM (qfLjt)

    274 Lost a good friend of 60 years last week. We lost contact about 50 years ago when I wandered off into the wilderness. We reconnected eventually. Hit harder than I expected.
    Posted by: javems at May 04, 2024 10:28 AM (8I4hW)

    =====

    {{{javems}}} Sorry about your friend.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 10:34 AM (FzDG4)

    275 262 Cinco De Crapo is coming up tomorrow.

    A fake holiday from a broken country to sell beer and tacos.

    Count me in!
    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 10:28 AM (R/m4+)

    Commie Month of May!

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:35 AM (di6C2)

    276 Let's not flake out on fish puns.

    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:35 AM (FkUwd)

    277 Lost a good friend of 60 years last week.
    ========================
    I just got all choked up last night, recalling a childhood friend who passed a couple of years ago. He died shooting smack, but he was a fascinating guy. And I miss his mercurial presence in my life.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2024 10:36 AM (lPeS+)

    278 The Chrysler Cantillon never made it past the concept car stage. A cute little two door convertible meant to compete with the VW Cabriolet, executives at the time decided the market wasn't ready for yet another Barbie Car.

    Posted by: Back in the day at May 04, 2024 10:36 AM (dg+HA)

    279 lol
    Parents of Hamas protestors are asking for tuition money back, because the college hurt their snowflakes’s feelings.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:36 AM (pASRM)

    280 Basically, by defying God, they are doing His will.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

    Funny how that works.

    Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the Lord’s will that prevails.
    Pr19:21

    Easily the story of my life.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:36 AM (i7KoL)

    281 We've still got an african violet. Everyone kept insisting that it only be carefully watered and never touch the leaves or the flowers with the water or it would die, and I thought "That's utterly absurd. How could one of these exist if that were the case?"

    I dump water on that sucker every couple of days and it's been alive for years that way.

    Now I'm suspicious that the instructions were something to make old ladies feel like they're performing a near-magic ritual and accomplishing something special.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:37 AM (YsjiM)

    282 Blood interferes with my coffee circulatory system.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:38 AM (LwmLF)

    283 Getting my kids out of Spokane is consistently on my prayer list.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 09:43 AM (i7KoL)
    =====
    Prayers up! I would love to get out of here myself. Side note: husband's friend is running for CMR's seat. Brian Dansel, solid MAGA guy. If you're voting, give him a look. He's from Republic.
    Posted by: Jordan61
    -------
    Grew up there. In the Valley. Drove through two summers back (didn't eat at Dick's nor Ron's Drive-In, which was a missed opportunity). Quite the tent city. Was a bit disappointed to see what the city has become. Best wishes to both of you.

    Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:38 AM (41CYW)

    284 They said it couldn't be done, but Don LeMon is the voice of reason.

    Eric Abbenante
    @EricAbbenante
    Don Lemon calls out Taylor Lorenz for falsely equating the 'lack of freedoms' between people in Texas / Florida and Gaza:
    DL: "Taylor, how do you reconcile the way marginalized groups fighting for what's happening in Gaza, yet in Gaza, they would not have any freedom."
    TL: "They don't have any freedoms in Texas and Florida"
    DL: "Taylor I'm a member of the LGBTQ community, if I go to Texas they're not going to throw me off a roof."
    In a disturbing turn of events, Don Lemon became the voice of reason.
    Taylor, we'd all be happy to contribute to your free one way ticket to Gaza.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:39 AM (L/fGl)

    285 All people are spiritual. They all have some form of faith, even if they insist that they don't. I know a woman who has changed religions have a dozen times, but she's never left the Democrats.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

    -

    Yep. It's why Global Warming and Global Homo can take hold like they do. People yearn for a relationship with God, and that hole is going to be filled by something if they reject Him.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:39 AM (YsjiM)

    286 All people are spiritual. They all have some form of faith, even if they insist that they don't. I know a woman who has changed religions have a dozen times, but she's never left the Democrats.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:32 AM (llXky)

    So she worships the State then? The State is God for her and Biden is Christ.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:39 AM (LwmLF)

    287 266 Got a nice fillet of monkfish at the gourmet grocers. Haven't had monkfish in forever. It used to be called "the poor man's lobster" but at today's prices it's "the rich man's poor man's lobster".
    Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 04, 2024 10:30 AM
    Monkfish is getting pricey, must be increased banana costs.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 10:40 AM (o2ZRX)

    288 *I'm suspicious that the instructions were something to make old ladies feel like they're performing a near-magic ritual and accomplishing something special.*

    Now do kitty cat litter boxes.

    Posted by: Cat Ladies Anonymous at May 04, 2024 10:40 AM (dg+HA)

    289 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

    -

    Also it's always nice to see you here on the weekends. Don't get big headed about that, though.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:40 AM (YsjiM)

    290 A couple months ago I found out that the girl I dated in high school, her husband who was my age and I knew since elementary school and her twin sister had all passed away. I don't think at the same time.

    I know nothing of the details as I got the news second hand. But it certainly was a bit of a wake-up call.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 10:40 AM (Q4IgG)

    291 Plenty of non religious people who aren’t left wingers. It’s a false narrative that you have to be one or the other.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:41 AM (pASRM)

    292 DL: "Taylor I'm a member of the LGBTQ community, if I go to Texas they're not going to throw me off a roof."
    In a disturbing turn of events, Don Lemon became the voice of reason.
    Taylor, we'd all be happy to contribute to your free one way ticket to Gaza.
    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:39 AM (L/fGl)

    And for just a heartbeat, a single neuron flared in Don Lemon's brain, to be snuffed out like a fart in the wind.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:42 AM (di6C2)

    293
    Hamas or otherwise, people who deliberately disrupt hospitals should be publicly flogged within in an inch of their worthless lives, before serving no less than ten years in prison.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (0FoWg)

    Hamas and their Leftist fellow travelers here have a hard time with this whole “hearts and minds” thing.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:42 AM (LwmLF)

    294 Yep. It's why Global Warming and Global Homo can take hold like they do. People yearn for a relationship with God, and that hole is going to be filled by something if they reject Him.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:39 AM (YsjiM)
    ---
    Isn't it funny how we went from having to be super-tolerant of local customs (no alcohol in Afghanistan! Cover your hair, ladies!) and then all at once, sodomy became the most important human right in the world.

    You want military aid? First you must bend over...

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:43 AM (llXky)

    295 When Covid broke there was much uncertainty over how bad it would be, more so than with new strains of the flu that routinely appear.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2024 10:04 AM (Gse2f)
    ---


    Dr Ray Battacharia did a very early serotype survey in California and showed that it was widely distributed and had a fatality of 0.2% untreated and this was verified by the Diamond Princess.
    what appears to have happened was that the whole response was thrown to the US Military as a bioweapons response, and they threw all the rules for dealing with a virus in favor of some game theory crap.
    It appears to have been a bioweapon in development that according to some epidemiologists appears to have been released and spread through Wuhan first. Which is why the US knew about it early and had their over the top reaction. (Peter Daszak has been making noises recently, and I am expecting him to be found dead of a suicide in a hotel parking lot if he says much more)

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 10:43 AM (D7oie)

    296 Why is a Taylor a Lorenz a thing? I will never understand as.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (pASRM)

    297 291 Plenty of non religious people who aren’t left wingers. It’s a false narrative that you have to be one or the other.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:41 AM (pASRM)

    That’s correct, but on the Left, they are out to REPLACE God with the State. IMHO, of course.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (LwmLF)

    298 270 Best part of a Monkfish?
    The inner piece.

    Posted by: Oh, no. Fish punz at May 04, 2024 10:31 AM (dg+HA)
    ----
    Hood do you think you are making fish puns in this plaice?

    Posted by: Ciampino - This thread is going to scale at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (qfLjt)

    299 Well, it's finally solved. We now know which of Dumb and Dumber is truly dumber.

    Morning Joe
    @Morning_Joe
    "I'm cautiously optimistic that the people in the middle, the people in states like Michigan, are gonna go, you know what, we're better than this...," Jeff Daniels on voters in his home state and why he says "[Trump] talks down to us; he talks past us."

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:45 AM (L/fGl)

    300 (Peter Daszak has been making noises recently, and I am expecting him to be found dead of a suicide in a hotel parking lot if he says much more)

    -

    Wait your turn!
    - Boeing

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:45 AM (YsjiM)

    301 Ron's Drive In, heh. Old stomping ground.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:45 AM (i7KoL)

    302 Plenty of non religious people who aren’t left wingers. It’s a false narrative that you have to be one or the other.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:41 AM (pASRM)
    ---
    Obviously. Lots of right-wingers worship the market, sacrificing jobs and communities to the god of GDP. They may even go to church, but that's just for show.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:45 AM (llXky)

    303 I suspect a solid case can be made that the MOST religious people are leftists.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:46 AM (YsjiM)

    304 296 Why is a Taylor a Lorenz a thing? I will never understand as.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (pASRM)


    With age comes wisdom.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 10:48 AM (PiwSw)

    305 I have two African violets. I bought these two layered pots. Put water in the bottom on and it wicks to the pot with the violet. Violet Barn has great plants.

    Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 04, 2024 10:48 AM (yeEu9)

    306 Happy Ohio National Guard Appreciation Day!

    Posted by: JoshO at May 04, 2024 10:48 AM (LmUpe)

    307 If there is one one person I look to for political wooden it’s the guy from dumb and dumber.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:49 AM (pASRM)

    308 Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 10:34 AM (FzDG4)

    Thanks. We reconnected about 20 years ago. It was like we had seen each other the day before. Good friends are like that.

    Posted by: javems at May 04, 2024 10:49 AM (8I4hW)

    309 AHL

    Your news from the prayer requests certainly sounds like addition by subtraction.

    I admire you for stepping up to the plate when duty called.

    Prayers up for you and your extended family.



    Posted by: mnw at May 04, 2024 10:50 AM (NLIak)

    310 Best part of a Monkfish?
    The inner piece.
    Posted by: Oh, no

    Benedictine monks?

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 04, 2024 10:50 AM (psNWM)

    311 I suspect a solid case can be made that the MOST religious people are leftists.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:46 AM (YsjiM)
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    No, because their faith is weak. Look at these crybabies, demanding no consequences for their actions. Your average leftist will confess to anything and everything under the slightest coercion. Taylor Lorenz would swear allegiance the Confederacy if you denied her lunch.

    Their ideology fills the spiritual void, but it is inherently weaker than faith in the one True God.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:50 AM (llXky)

    312 More multiculturalism.

    VIDEO: Florida police capture "newcomer" from Guatemala after he stabbed his girlfriend and her 4-year-old daughter to death.

    https://shorturl.at/bjnoX

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:51 AM (L/fGl)

    313 301 Ron's Drive In, heh. Old stomping ground.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right
    ----------
    Two Supers, no onion. Large fry.

    Posted by: scampydog is it lunchtime yet at May 04, 2024 10:52 AM (41CYW)

    314 304 296 Why is a Taylor a Lorenz a thing? I will never understand as.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (pASRM)

    With age comes wisdom.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 10:48 AM (PiwSw)

    She does seem to keep popping up.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 10:52 AM (di6C2)

    315 Some people are very stupid and general assholes. Like Hamas protestors. Has nothing to do with their spiritual or religious beliefs.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:52 AM (pASRM)

    316 Prayers up for you and your extended family.

    Posted by: mnw at May 04, 2024 10:50 AM (NLIak)
    ---
    Thank you! It has been difficult, but has also made me more appreciative of good things and especially God, who is the ultimate source of love and strength.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:52 AM (llXky)

    317 Was it Yellen or some other dope who did the "Gosh, I never realized that exporting all our manufacturing jobs wouldn't be an economic benefit! Who knew?"
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:14 AM (llXky)

    If only we realized that all jobs are important, and that farming, exploiting natural resources, providing potentially life saving services were every bit as important as manufacturing jobs.

    But no, not here. Nevermind.

    (Nor do we want to acknowledge we cheerfully run off jobs by electing people who are hostile to business to begin with. But that means taking responsibility for one’s actions.)

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:53 AM (LwmLF)

    318 Their ideology fills the spiritual void, but it is inherently weaker than faith in the one True God.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

    Standing upon a foundations of Jello.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:53 AM (i7KoL)

    319 Apropos of nothing, I was watching the ESPN OJ doc. There was a short clip of Kim Karadashean when her show debuted. Man I forgot how smoking hot she was. Back before all the surgery he had to make her into a freak show.

    Her dad was one of OJ’s lawyers, which Inhad kinda forgot as well,

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:54 AM (pASRM)

    320 I suspect a solid case can be made that the MOST religious people are leftists.

    ---
    No, because their faith is weak...

    -

    I meant more along the lines of the pharisees. Praying loudly, telling instead of showing, demanding others worship according to their strict rules, etc.

    (notice that I didn't mention God in there and it can be abortion, Global Warming, etc.)

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 10:54 AM (YsjiM)

    321 Their ideology fills the spiritual void, but it is inherently weaker than faith in the one True God.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:50 AM (llXky)

    The State and its ability to perfect Man by curing it of icky human nature?

    Posted by: Communists and Socialists at May 04, 2024 10:55 AM (LwmLF)

    322 Two Supers, no onion. Large fry.
    Posted by: scampydog

    They served burgers? Who knew? I was just there for the girls and the troubles.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 10:55 AM (i7KoL)

    323 Some people are very stupid and general assholes. Like Hamas protestors. Has nothing to do with their spiritual or religious beliefs.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:52 AM (pASRM)
    ---
    What feeds that, though? What inspires them to do those things? They are transparently powered by demonic energy. The chants, the calls for death, bloodshed, the reckless disregard for the welfare of others - those are objectively EVIL traits.

    You show them a cross and they will happily spit on it. We know who they are working for.

    Part of the reason they've gotten as powerful as they are is because people refused to see it, tried to rationalize it as just being jerks, bad parents, youth culture, but there's a lot more going on.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:56 AM (llXky)

    324 Hamas or otherwise, people who deliberately disrupt hospitals should be publicly flogged within in an inch of their worthless lives, before serving no less than ten years in prison.
    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2024 08:20 AM (0FoWg)

    They went after Christie's aides in Trenton for this, 13 months.

    Posted by: GOP sux at May 04, 2024 10:56 AM (Zzbjj)

    325 It hasn’t been talked about much but China’s manufacturing is getting exported to Vietnam and other Asian countries. They became too expensive and the same thing that happened here in the 80s and 90s is now happening there.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:56 AM (pASRM)

    326 Why is a Taylor a Lorenz a thing? I will never understand as.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (pASRM)

    With age comes wisdom.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

    Taylor is not even a reasonable facsimile of wisdom.

    Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 04, 2024 10:56 AM (L/fGl)

    327 319 Apropos of nothing, I was watching the ESPN OJ doc. There was a short clip of Kim Karadashean when her show debuted. Man I forgot how smoking hot she was. Back before all the surgery he had to make her into a freak show.

    Her dad was one of OJ’s lawyers, which Inhad kinda forgot as well,
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:54 AM (pASRM)

    I am proud of being almost completely ignorant of them.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:57 AM (LwmLF)

    328 >>It appears to have been a bioweapon in development that according to some epidemiologists appears to have been released and spread through Wuhan first. Which is why the US knew about it early and had their over the top reaction. (Peter Daszak has been making noises recently, and I am expecting him to be found dead of a suicide in a hotel parking lot if he says much more)

    If you haven't read this you might find it interesting. There's a reason Fauci was the highest paid federal employee.

    >>How Dick Cheney created Anthony Fauci America's biodefence strategy has finally backfired

    https://tinyurl.com/2njxbxdy

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:57 AM (LkLld)

    329 Was it Yellen or some other dope who did the "Gosh, I never realized that exporting all our manufacturing jobs wouldn't be an economic benefit! Who knew?"
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:14 AM (llXky)

    They knew, but realized that the billionaires made by this manufacturing transfer would pay handsomely.

    Posted by: GOP sux at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (Zzbjj)

    330 AHL

    As for your late ex-SIL, I read this in a novel decades ago, but I can't remember which one. Anyway, one of the characters said,

    "I pray for his soul and hope that the Good Lord will disregard my entreaties on his behalf."

    Posted by: mnw at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (NLIak)

    331 I’m not religious in the slightest. And I don’t go around doing Hamas protests. And there are tens of millions of people like me nationwide. That’s my point, it’s not about religion or demons or whatever. Some people are just retarded assholes who are bad people.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pASRM)

    332 If only we realized that all jobs are important, and that farming, exploiting natural resources, providing potentially life saving services were every bit as important as manufacturing jobs.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:53 AM (LwmLF)
    ---
    Absolutely. The factory closes and then so does the hardware store. The mines shut down because the factories don't need them. Entire towns have been wrecked by this, but they're small, in flyover country, so who cares?

    Look at the lockdown orders and who was considered "essential." It was the most blatant display of classist superiority since the Russian Revolution.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 10:59 AM (llXky)

    333 They served burgers? Who knew? I was just there for the girls and the troubles.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey
    --------
    Ha. Accurate. Always plenty of those options there. More trouble next door at Taco Time. Cute girls worked at Baskin Robbins across parking lot.

    Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 10:59 AM (41CYW)

    334 I am proud of being almost completely ignorant of them.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 10:57 AM (LwmLF)

    Other than knowing they exist I’m there as well. I was just taken aback at how different she looked 20 years ago, that’s all.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:59 AM (pASRM)

    335 331
    Nope. It's about religion or whatever it is you call Islam. You may doubt it but they don't.

    Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 04, 2024 11:00 AM (roH4R)

    336 Late to the thread, but I am in Missoula with my son, who had surgery for a bowel obstruction. He is recovering, albeit slowly. He will have an ostomy bag for a couple of months. He is going stir crazy in his hospital room. To the point he's been watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

    The upside is that a couple of the nurses are really cute, so he kind of flirts with them.

    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 11:00 AM (gPzkP)

    337 We're moving out of Spokane and WA next month.


    Can't wait.

    Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at May 04, 2024 11:00 AM (7V8BR)

    338 All people are very stupid and general ***holes. It's literally the way we're born. Constantly moving away from that is the very core of spiritual beliefs.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:00 AM (YsjiM)

    339 >>Nope. It's about religion or whatever it is you call Islam. You may doubt it but they don't.

    Islam is a poltitical system masquerading as a religion.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:01 AM (LkLld)

    340 Why is a Taylor a Lorenz a thing? I will never understand as.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:44 AM (pASRM)

    With age comes wisdom.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper


    I think it is pushed. "when you have lemons . . . "

    https://youtu.be/XAYeJzYJnkM

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (D7oie)

    341 As for your late ex-SIL, I read this in a novel decades ago, but I can't remember which one. Anyway, one of the characters said,

    "I pray for his soul and hope that the Good Lord will disregard my entreaties on his behalf."
    Posted by: mnw at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (NLIak)
    ---
    Yeah, I did pray for him, but I'm of decidedly mixed feelings on his chances.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (llXky)

    342 The vast majority of Hamas rioters are not muzzies though.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (pASRM)

    343 That’s my point, it’s not about religion or demons or whatever. Some people are just retarded assholes who are bad people.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pASRM)

    This is correct. But, what makes them behave that way?

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (R4t5M)

    344 The upside is that a couple of the nurses are really cute, so he kind of flirts with them.
    Posted by: Pug Mahon

    -

    Oldie but goodie:

    Continually remind him that there are easier ways to meet pretty girls.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (YsjiM)

    345 Prayers for the recovery of your son, Pug. It's a good sign that he's flirting a bit with the nurses.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 11:03 AM (fab8O)

    346 Islam is a poltitical system masquerading as a religion.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:01 AM (LkLld)
    ---
    Islam is a heresy that turned into a political system.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:03 AM (llXky)

    347 This is correct. But, what makes them behave that way?
    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (R4t5M)

    Who knows. Luck of the draw. Some people can paint some can sing. Some can’t. Some are good people some are assholes who like to destroy things. It’s how humans operate.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:04 AM (pASRM)

    348 good morning MisHum, Horde

    Posted by: callsign claymore at May 04, 2024 11:05 AM (JcnCJ)

    349 . More trouble next door at Taco Time.

    Heh. I think you might be on my lawn. Being a hometown boy, you can stay. Taco Time wasn't there in my day that I can recall. Ron's was basically neutral territory. Both U-High and CV frequented it. I had the
    "pleasure" of attending both those schools. Not by choice.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 11:05 AM (i7KoL)

    350 342 The vast majority of Hamas rioters are not muzzies though.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (pASRM)

    But they are acolytes of communism/whateveritis. There is a certain amount of cold wonder how much of these guys (who keep seem to pop up for different causes) are doing so because they are being paid (it's their job) or are doing it for fervor. My guess is one reinforces the other.

    Nothing is ever all one thing or another.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:06 AM (di6C2)

    351 I’m not religious in the slightest. And I don’t go around doing Hamas protests. And there are tens of millions of people like me nationwide. That’s my point, it’s not about religion or demons or whatever. Some people are just retarded assholes who are bad people.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pASRM)

    Not to go all philosophical… and I’m probably gonna get willowed… but without God you can make no claim to a distinction between good and bad people. It’s an artificial distinction without a God who created all and defines what is good and what is bad. Maybe you believe in God but you don’t depend on a religion to seek or worship that God…. But make no mistake, without an ultimate authority these distinctions mean nothing. That’s why as a general rule (but not always) religious people (who take their religion seriously…. And adhere to a religion that worships the true God, not a demon) are better people

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:06 AM (xT8gx)

    352 The upside is that a couple of the nurses are really cute, so he kind of flirts with them.
    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 11:00 AM (gPzkP)
    ---
    My wife's uncle was a remarkable guy who fell into a rock-crusher and survived (earning him the nickname of "Slick") albeit at reduced mental and physical capacity.

    He was bloated and a bit deformed, but his manner absolutely charmed every woman who met him. It was animal attraction or something, but to see this old man absolutely captivating his nurses and assistants was hilarious.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:07 AM (llXky)

    353 Linus,

    I don’t need god to tell me that rioting and burning down buildings is a bad thing.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:07 AM (pASRM)

    354 Islam is a poltitical system masquerading as a religion.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:01 AM (LkLld)

    Well, it is both in that the whole idea of rendering unto God what is God’s, etc does not exist in Islam.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:08 AM (LwmLF)

    355 That’s my point, it’s not about religion or demons or whatever. Some people are just retarded assholes who are bad people.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pASRM)

    This is correct. But, what makes them behave that way?
    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (R4t5M)

    A lifetime of brainwashing.

    Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 04, 2024 11:08 AM (iODuv)

    356 Nothing is ever all one thing or another.
    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:06 AM (di6C2)


    Who was it that said:

    "The issue is never the issue, the issue is always the Revolution."

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 11:08 AM (PiwSw)

    357 I think it's a good thing- for me, at least- to be grateful to God for little things every day. This includes the smell and sight of lilacs, a little boy of about three excited by his new white sneakers and sharing the names of the days of the week and a young couple smiling at each other.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 11:09 AM (8EoqE)

    358 I think a lot of this Hamas shit comes down to being cool. These are 20 year old. what’s the thing every 20 year old wants other than to get laid? To be popular and part of the cool group.

    On college campuses, being anti-Israel is the hip cool thing. If tomorrow the cool thing is wearing purple pants, they’ll all rush to Target to buy purple pants.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:09 AM (pASRM)

    359 356 With Prince gone, the Revolution is all we have left.

    Posted by: callsign claymore at May 04, 2024 11:10 AM (JcnCJ)

    360 Heh. I think you might be on my lawn. Being a hometown boy, you can stay. Taco Time wasn't there in my day that I can recall. Ron's was basically neutral territory. Both U-High and CV frequented it. I had the
    "pleasure" of attending both those schools. Not by choice.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey
    -------
    CV here. Ron's was neutral. McDonalds on Sullivan and Sprague/University were not however. Nice lawn, thanks for the hospitality.
    Off to knock the chore list down. Thanks for the nostalgia. Best to all you morons and your loved ones.

    Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2024 11:12 AM (41CYW)

    361 Nihilistic relativism is always so weird to see.

    If children are brought up in a two parent household with a male dad and female mom and exist in a community that operates under the Ten Commandments, the family or kids don't have to be religious. They are still benefitting from the system and being raised accordingly.

    You don't have to accept Christ as your personal savior (please do), but "honor thy father and thy mother" and "thou shalt not kill" are still the basis of your beliefs even if you reject His gift.

    Well, they used to be. That's changing rapidly over the last decade.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:13 AM (YsjiM)

    362 The kind of funny thing is, for these professional revolutionaries, they are the group most likely to get purged by one side or the other (even their own.) They are tools, used for a purpose and then either defeated or they have to be removed by their own side.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:13 AM (di6C2)

    363 That’s why as a general rule (but not always) religious people (who take their religion seriously…. And adhere to a religion that worships the true God, not a demon) are better people
    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:06 AM (xT8gx)

    I’ve known deeply religious people who can easily be saints. (My beloved fourth grade teacher, who was openly deeply religious, even in a public school, was one.). There are some profoundly religious people who are assholes and take great delight in being assholes. I’ve known plenty of them. (A guy I knew, a devout Catholic who worked with me on a VFD, was one. He took great pleasure in alienating people and pissing people off, even on calls, and was perpetually enraged that not every square inch of earth wasn’t EXACTLY like OH.). So no, religion guarantees nothing. Not even for most people.

    Once again you are on your own and you have to evaluate people as individuals.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:14 AM (LwmLF)

    364 Linus,

    I don’t need god to tell me that rioting and burning down buildings is a bad thing.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:07 AM (pASRM)

    But if there is no God, “rioting and burning is bad” is only a societal convention and not a transcendent truth. Another society or group of people may decide to have a different convention and then if we don’t like that to whom to we appeal? Without God, there is no appeal but force or reason…. And you know how unreasonable these people are. You’re a good person (I’ve no doubt) because you’ve absorbed Judeo-Christian values which come… from God

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:15 AM (xT8gx)

    365 Once again you are on your own and you have to evaluate people as individuals.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:14 AM (LwmLF)

    Word!

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:16 AM (pASRM)

    366 353 Linus,

    I don’t need god to tell me that rioting and burning down buildings is a bad thing.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:07 AM (pASRM)

    I’d be willing to bet that, if you are like me, I don’t need the law and the cops to tell me that, either. The law exists for those who can’t figure that out.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:16 AM (LwmLF)

    367 I don't need God to tell me it's wrong when the society that I exist in that is based on Judeo-Christian morals and values has taught me it's wrong.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:16 AM (YsjiM)

    368
    >>How Dick Cheney created Anthony Fauci America's biodefence strategy has finally backfired

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 10:57 AM


    Interesting, but the author should have made the connection between the 2002 'SARS' and Covid 2019. Fauci's 20 year effort at creating a vaccine for the relatively non-lethal 2002 SARS* led to the research labs including Wuhan. Whether he knew the Chinese were actually achieving gain-of-function and approved of it - we'll probably never know. If Senator Rand Paul can't get an honest answer out of him I doubt anyone can.

    My guess is Fauci knew damn well what was going on in Wuhan, and if he didn't he damn well should have. We sold the communists the rope they hung us with. Actually, through the agencies under his leadership funding the research, they didn't even have to buy the rope.

    * The author noted the 800 deaths worldwide. (About 30 countries were effected. So relatively low 'R' value or communicability to others. Obviously, something happened.)

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 11:16 AM (RKVpM)

    369 You don't have to accept Christ as your personal savior (please do), but "honor thy father and thy mother" and "thou shalt not kill" are still the basis of your beliefs even if you reject His gift.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:13 AM (YsjiM)
    ---
    A simpler way of putting it is that God desires order. The Enemy desires chaos, which is why their beliefs constantly change, their hierarchy inverts itself and they betray allies for chump change.

    The "cause" changes; the justification and nominal goals shift, but the actual operations are always the same - destroy, burn, and blaspheme.

    At no time do these people EVER set themselves on the side of God. Oh, some will claim the mantle, but they immediately start performing blasphemous rituals or perverting scripture. That's the big giveaway.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:17 AM (llXky)

    370 But if there is no God, “rioting and burning is bad” is only a societal convention and not a transcendent truth.



    Every society regardless of religious beliefs has certain rules. Like don’t kill, don’t steal, etc. Christians like to think they’re the ones who invented these rules. But they were around long before and will be around long after Christianity.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:18 AM (pASRM)

    371 Once again you are on your own and you have to evaluate people as individuals.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:14 AM (LwmLF)

    Oh, I agree with that as a practical matter…. But the religious people you knew who were bad (and there are plenty) were violating their own beliefs. We all do that regularly because we’re flawed sinners…. But believers have a standard to follow

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:18 AM (xT8gx)

    372 John 10:10.

    Posted by: Steal, kill, and destroy at May 04, 2024 11:19 AM (dg+HA)

    373 It isn't religion. None of it is. It's ideology. Politics. The left looks at their ideology/political orientation as a religion. They are very, very passionate about it too. Like the Islamic jihadist who's very, very passionate about his ideology.

    They both want you to convert or die.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)

    374 You are going to have a hard time convincing me that the best way to combat "terrorism" is by bombing to death 4000+ toddlers under the age of 4, in Gaza.

    Posted by: Paul banned at May 04, 2024 11:20 AM (bxNrG)

    375 Every society regardless of religious beliefs has certain rules. Like don’t kill, don’t steal, etc. Christians like to think they’re the ones who invented these rules. But they were around long before and will be around long after Christianity.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:18 AM (pASRM)
    ---
    LOL, killing and stealing are an essential part of Socialism. When you strike down God, anything is permitted because there is no other higher authority than man's desires.

    It is possible to follow God's laws while not even believing in God, but the order is sustained by those who do.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:21 AM (llXky)

    376 Paul is dumb enough to believe the Hamas numbers. lol.

    Poor Paul.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:22 AM (pASRM)

    377 "But they were around long before and will be around long after Christianity."

    What comes after Christianity?

    Posted by: I gotta ask at May 04, 2024 11:22 AM (dg+HA)

    378 Bacon, bacon, bacon! Just bought a little oinker this morning and my nephew is going to raise. Talked my Jewish SIL into going in half. Am I a bad person?

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 11:22 AM (i7KoL)

    379 They both want you to convert or die.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 04, 2024 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)

    Slight edit: 'submit or die.' They do not really care if you believe or not. You merely have to let them do what they want.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:22 AM (di6C2)

    380 are going to have a hard time convincing me that the best way to combat "terrorism" is by bombing to death 4000+ toddlers under the age of 4, in Gaza.
    -

    Okay

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:22 AM (CVYFx)

    381 LOL, killing and stealing are an essential part of Socialism. When you strike down God, anything is permitted because there is no other higher authority than man's desires.



    Whaaaaa? So you’re saying no Christian hs ever stolen or killed?

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:23 AM (pASRM)

    382 Every society regardless of religious beliefs has certain rules. Like don’t kill, don’t steal, etc. Christians like to think they’re the ones who invented these rules. But they were around long before and will be around long after Christianity.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:18 AM (pASRM)

    I think your anthropology is incomplete. Missionaries have encountered cultures where stealing is okay as well as things like polygamy…. And lots of cultures say killing is okay if it’s someone outside your tribe. The Ten Commandments were revolutionary when God first gave them to Israel. It’s seems universal to us in the west… but it wasn’t historically. Judeo-Christian values were not naturally adopted by all cultures

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (xT8gx)

    383 NOOD Bridges by KT

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (P5BPp)

    384 That's how relativism works. Those are enforced by force, and yes, they can exist with force.

    Knowledge is understanding the desire to have them exist out of love.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (CVYFx)

    385 What comes after Christianity?
    Posted by: I gotta ask at May 04, 2024 11:22 AM (dg+HA)

    I’ll be long dead and don’t really care TBH. But 3/5 of the world is not Christian now. So, that may be a preview.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (pASRM)

    386 But the religious people you knew who were bad (and there are plenty) were violating their own beliefs. We all do that regularly because we’re flawed sinners…. But believers have a standard to follow
    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 04, 2024 11:18 AM (xT8gx)

    This is exactly why the best thing you can dispense with is “religious people are better”. They have standards to live by, and religion instructs us that no, we will never be perfect, but here, this is how we can live a better life and be better people. There are people who STILL routinely reject this and think “It’s all good because I go to church every Sunday”. Much like a dude who routinely beats his wife and gets her flowers as a make up call the next day.

    Being religious sadly is a great excuse for bad people to treat their fellow man like shit. Which means: we can, and must, evaluate people as individuals. It’s harder, and people in this country hate doing it, but we HAVE to.

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (LwmLF)

    387 I love watching the same arguments for going on 30 years.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (di6C2)

    388 Whaaaaa? So you’re saying no Christian hs ever stolen or killed?
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:23 AM (pASRM)
    ---
    No, I'm pointing out that not EVERY society has rules against killing. Look up the Soviet Union.

    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:25 AM (llXky)

    389 Don't know if this has already been posted but here is a link to the Eurovision voting so you can vote for Israel.

    https://eurovisionworld.com/esc/eurovision-2024-poll

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 04, 2024 11:25 AM (t/2Uw)

    390 And lots of cultures say killing is okay if it’s someone outside your tribe



    Kinda like say a Christian nation going to war with another nation?

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:25 AM (pASRM)

    391 No, I'm pointing out that not EVERY society has rules against killing. Look up the Soviet Union.
    Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 04, 2024 11:25 AM (llXky)

    The US govt kills people all the time. But a typical person can’t just go around killing peoples. Worked the same way in the USSR.

    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:27 AM (pASRM)

    392 374 You are going to have a hard time convincing me that the best way to combat "terrorism" is by bombing to death 4000+ toddlers under the age of 4, in Gaza.
    Posted by: Paul banned at May 04, 2024 11:20 AM (bxNrG)

    Our favorite Brezhnev era apparatchik is back, loyally spouting the party line. So, Paul, tell me, are you paid by Hamas to give the party line or do you volunteer to do so for free?

    (Notice Paul is totes okay with hat happened in Israel on October 7. He probably felt…funny…watching it go down on TV and online.)

    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:28 AM (LwmLF)

    393 Being religious sadly is a great excuse for bad people to treat their fellow man like shit. Which means: we can, and must, evaluate people as individuals. It’s harder, and people in this country hate doing it, but we HAVE to.
    Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2024 11:24 AM (LwmLF)

    This. The Standards and Ideals used to measure oneself and how you treat other people. Even if you fail, you try to do better. Christianity tries to set your feet on the Path, but you have to walk it.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 11:28 AM (di6C2)

    394 Oh, goody. Is it time for the Atheist conservatives to fight with the religious conservatives about whether a belief in God--specifically a belief in the God of the Hebrews and Christians is superior to Atheism.? All we need is that Atheist Jokester ZOD- who I understand is a nice interesting man IRL- to tell posters to kill themselves./sarc

    Later all,

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 11:32 AM (SiulD)

    395 350 342 The vast majority of Hamas rioters are not muzzies though.
    Posted by: Montec at May 04, 2024 11:02 AM (pASRM)
    ---------------------

    The vast majority are paid rabble.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 11:33 AM (lCWOD)

    396 Late to the thread, but I am in Missoula with my son, who had surgery for a bowel obstruction. He is recovering, albeit slowly. He will have an ostomy bag for a couple of months. He is going stir crazy in his hospital room. To the point he's been watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

    The upside is that a couple of the nurses are really cute, so he kind of flirts with them.
    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 04, 2024 11:00 AM (gPzkP)
    ===
    Prayer for complete and speedy recovery.

    Posted by: The Cats at May 04, 2024 11:36 AM (RIvkX)

    397 I love watching the same arguments for going on 30 years.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD

    I'll share my popcorn.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 11:37 AM (i7KoL)

    398 /feline sock off

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 11:41 AM (RIvkX)

    399 >>My guess is Fauci knew damn well what was going on in Wuhan, and if he didn't he damn well should have. We sold the communists the rope they hung us with. Actually, through the agencies under his leadership funding the research, they didn't even have to buy the rope.

    Yes, he knew. But I don't think it stopped with Fauci. Fauci is a part of the DOD/CIA complex.

    Hunter Biden's company had an investment in a company that was doing virus tracking in both Wuhan and Ukraine where we also were funding bioweapons research. Fauci is protected because he is part of the blob. Same same with Joe.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2024 11:45 AM (LkLld)

    400
    You are going to have a hard time convincing me that the best way to combat "terrorism" is by bombing to death 4000+ toddlers under the age of 4, in Gaza.
    Posted by: Paul banned at May 04, 2024 11:20 AM


    I believe that if that was actually true*, they would surrender and release hostages (including American citizens) like rational people. For the children.

    But this is Islam. Wars never end with them. That's their choice and they have to live with the consequences.

    * Which numbers I do not believe.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 11:55 AM (RKVpM)

    401 "For all those who lament the fall of the saga: May the 4th be with you.
    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron"

    And all the Lutherans reflexively say "And also with you"

    Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 04, 2024 12:06 PM (SXCRk)

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    Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




    Comments

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    1 Morning!

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:00 AM (/HWS4)

    2 H'lo, Pixy!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:01 AM (o3SCB)

    3 ZOD IMPERIAL.

    Posted by: ZOD at May 04, 2024 04:01 AM (5HQE5)

    4 Morning m!

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:02 AM (/HWS4)

    5 Morning all!

    Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 04, 2024 04:03 AM (BLOW1)

    6 Time to make the coffee.

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:03 AM (/HWS4)

    7 I like this comment over at Pixy's ai.mee.nu site on the recent TechDirt article about nurses and AI, nicely adulterating a line from the article:

    "No computer, no AI can replace a human touch," said Amy Grewal, a registered nurse. "It cannot hold your loved one's hand. You cannot teach a computer how to have empathy or make obnoxious tik-tok videos instead of treating patients."

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:03 AM (o3SCB)

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    Posted by: ZOD at May 04, 2024 04:04 AM (5HQE5)

    9 6 Time to make the coffee.
    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:03 AM (/HWS4)

    I hope you'll bring enough for everyone.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:04 AM (o3SCB)

    10 10

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 04:04 AM (ju2Fy)

    11 >>>Working on migrating everything to a new server given the recent issues. I'll post a notice if / when downtime is expected.

    Happy weekend ahead!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:05 AM (o3SCB)

    12 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 04:05 AM (ju2Fy)

    13 Good morning Pixy.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:06 AM (Unmm2)

    14 14

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:08 AM (Unmm2)

    15 Where is Skip?

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:09 AM (Unmm2)

    16 Enigma code, deciphered:

    "The Allies have deciphered our code. If you are at sea in a u-boat, prepare to die. The Russians have conquered Austria. Rudolf Hess is fucking batty. I prefer my wurst with apple-sauce, not kraut. I like the part where we were all going to get 5000 acres of Russian farmland each. If you are at sea in a u-boat, prepare to die..."

    Posted by: ZOD at May 04, 2024 04:09 AM (5HQE5)

    17 Disclaimer: 9458 etc.

    I see 8678948, 8671666, 8676514, and 8674037, but no 8675309.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:09 AM (o3SCB)

    18 14 14
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:08 AM (Unmm2)

    w00t! Off to a good start.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:10 AM (o3SCB)

    19 113

    Posted by: ZOD at May 04, 2024 04:11 AM (5HQE5)

    20 ZOD facade. I'm calling out the internet tough guy. Um, going into hiding now.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:16 AM (Unmm2)

    21 I'll post a notice if / when downtime is expected.

    AoSHQ Blackout Blog. Last post was April 20, 2021 by CBD. Still functional?

    https://acedark.wordpress.com/

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 04:17 AM (ju2Fy)

    22 20 ZOD facade. I'm calling out the internet tough guy. Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:16 AM (Unmm2)

    Die.

    Do it now.

    Posted by: ZOD at May 04, 2024 04:18 AM (5HQE5)

    23 21 I'll post a notice if / when downtime is expected.

    AoSHQ Blackout Blog. Last post was April 20, 2021 by CBD. Still functional?

    https://acedark.wordpress.com/
    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 04:17 AM (ju2Fy)

    I tried to search for acedark yesterday!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:20 AM (o3SCB)

    24 G'Day everyone

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:21 AM (fwDg9)

    25 Skip! You were missed!

    15 Where is Skip?
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:09 AM (Unmm2)

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:21 AM (o3SCB)

    26 Making breakfast then having to city to do volunteer work

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:22 AM (fwDg9)

    27 It's still there, m. Just didn't know if CoB's would go to it.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 04:23 AM (ju2Fy)

    28 I checked "acedark" a few times yesterday... no new posts...

    That's okay, there were *other things* I needed to do anyway, LOL

    Dang it! I'm hooked on this place!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:23 AM (njWTi)

    29 Skip!

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:23 AM (Unmm2)

    30 30

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 04:24 AM (o3SCB)

    31 For a good time call 8675309


    https://t5k.org/curios/page.php/8675309.html

    Posted by: meh at May 04, 2024 04:27 AM (n+Veq)

    32 You cannot teach a computer how to have empathy or make obnoxious tik-tok videos instead of treating patients."
    Posted by: m

    HA!!!

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:28 AM (/HWS4)

    33 Jenny, Jenny...

    youtube.com/watch?v=6WTdTwcmxyo

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:31 AM (njWTi)

    34 The PlayStation Network is only available in about half one third of the countries of the world.


    Well, one 1/3 is more than 1/2, so that's good

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:31 AM (/HWS4)

    35 Remember In the 80s when every pretty girl was called Jennifer? Don't want to know what they're called now would be too creepy.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:34 AM (Unmm2)

    36 Well, one 1/3 is more than 1/2, so that's good
    Posted by: Bruce
    -------------

    Only in the southern hemisphere.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 04:34 AM (ju2Fy)

    37 Miami Grand Prix events today, Sprint race at noon, Qualifying at 4pm, hopefully home by then

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:35 AM (fwDg9)

    38 Making breakfast then having to city to do volunteer work
    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:22 AM (fwDg9)

    No Dough ?

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 04:35 AM (T4tVD)

    39 Yeah, I may have "dated" a Jennifer or two back in the day.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:39 AM (Unmm2)

    40 My aunt Jenny was pretty... back in the 1920s...

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:39 AM (njWTi)

    41 Free work

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:39 AM (fwDg9)

    42 Free work
    Posted by: Skip

    Lynyrd Skynyrd's lesser known song

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:42 AM (/HWS4)

    43 Free work
    Posted by: Skip

    Not even a bite of a sammy ?

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 04:43 AM (T4tVD)

    44 Free work
    Posted by: Skip
    ---------

    Yep. Until about.. oh... this week? Right?

    Work until mid-May or so, to pay the taxes, and then you get to 'keep' your earnings?

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:44 AM (njWTi)

    45 Skip, Arbeit macht frei lol.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:46 AM (Unmm2)

    46 Work until mid-May or so, to pay the taxes, and then you get to 'keep' your earnings?
    Posted by: JQ

    I owe my soul to the company store...

    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:46 AM (/HWS4)

    47 Not sure, but think 'aunt Jenny' wasn't a "Jennifer"

    Think her given name was actually just "Jenny" (and not Ginny or Virginia)

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:47 AM (njWTi)

    48 Long passed away good family friend was Virginia but was call Ginny

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 04:50 AM (fwDg9)

    49 Sixteen tons, and whadda ya get?

    Anothah day oldah and deepah in debt.

    Saint Petah dontcha call me 'cause I caint go...

    I owe mah soul to the company sto'

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:50 AM (njWTi)

    50 youtube.com/watch?v=RRh0QiXyZSk

    Sixteen Tons

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:54 AM (njWTi)

    51 Seriously, even if you're a "facade" why would you tell other posters on here- who aren't trolls /to die? Seems like an unfortunate way to die with stress and/or insomnia.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:56 AM (1P3tj)

    52 Skip, still too have a relative called Ginny, but yeah certainly a name soon to be relegated mostly to the past alas.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 04:56 AM (Unmm2)

    53 51-"deal" with insomnia.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:58 AM (1P3tj)

    54 Mornin'

    Busy at work. Prepping for a building wide outage. Fun.

    Hell hath no fury than fussy bureaucrats scorned.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 05:01 AM (aKh6S)

    55 Fen, it's all good. Don't think anyone here takes Zod's bluster seriously.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:01 AM (Unmm2)

    56 Good morning, FenelonSpoke!

    Long time...

    Have you a helpful scripture for loneliness?

    I'm feeling rather solitary tonight, due to 'caregiver isolation'

    Thanks, it's okay here but need a pick-me-up

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:02 AM (njWTi)

    57 16 Tons is one of my favorite songs. The irony is lost on commies. There are a lot of old songs they don't get.

    Posted by: Jamaica at May 04, 2024 05:07 AM (IG7T0)

    58 Zod, man, we need you to direct your "kill yourself now" shtick toward the paleo-simians at Columbia or whatever university(s).

    We could all support *that* I think...

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:07 AM (njWTi)

    59 34 The PlayStation Network is only available in about half one third of the countries of the world.

    Well, one 1/3 is more than 1/2, so that's good
    Posted by: Bruce at May 04, 2024 04:31 AM (/HWS4)

    There is MATH being committed here!!!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:07 AM (o3SCB)

    60 Good morning morons

    Thats a lot of numerals.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:08 AM (RIvkX)

    61 Scripture for loneliness- Psalms 25:16-17 per Google.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:09 AM (Unmm2)

    62 Sixteen Tons

    Lizzo's getting LARGER !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 05:11 AM (T4tVD)

    63 Also, Fen, perhaps a prayer for all of us...

    It's so easy to get caught up in the commotion of hatred going on in colleges right now.

    I find myself wishing death upon the pale-swine "protestors" simply because they wish the same upon me and mine.

    What is the solution here? It's so hard to pray for my enemies, other than to pray for their demise!

    What now?

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:13 AM (njWTi)

    64 Seriously, even if you're a "facade" why would you tell other posters on here- who aren't trolls /to die? Seems like an unfortunate way to die with stress and/or insomnia.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 04:56 AM (1P3tj)
    ====
    Why would you expect Zod to reject his true nature?

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:13 AM (RIvkX)

    65 Sixteen Tons

    Tennessee Ernie Chevrolet

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 05:13 AM (T4tVD)

    66 Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:09 AM

    Thanks. I should know to read Psalms...

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:16 AM (njWTi)

    67 >>Having seen other big tech companies get in trouble when the DOJ went over their records, Google decided it would simply not keep any records.
    It's a bold strategy.

    "I know, right?"
    -- Obama and his administration

    In the middle of directing the difficult task of transferring the historically important records of the Obama administration into the National Archives, the archivist in charge, David Ferriero, ran into a serious problem: A lot of key records are missing. . ."

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:18 AM (cCVOS)

    68 Sixteen Tons is my snow shoveling song, lucky haven't done it in a few years

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:19 AM (fwDg9)

    69 Hardcore:

    When the troops were about to capture the tower and were forcing the door of the courtyard, they ordered that fire be brought and the doors burned. Being surrounded, Razis fell upon his own sword, [42] preferring to die nobly rather than to fall into the hands of sinners and suffer outrages unworthy of his noble birth. [43] But in the heat of the struggle he did not hit exactly, and the crowd was now rushing in through the doors. He bravely ran up on the wall, and manfully threw himself down into the crowd. [44] But as they quickly drew back, a space opened and he fell in the middle of the empty space. [45] Still alive and aflame with anger, he rose, and though his blood gushed forth and his wounds were severe he ran through the crowd; and standing upon a steep rock, [46] with his blood now completely drained from him, he tore out his entrails, took them with both hands and hurled them at the crowd, calling upon the Lord of life and spirit to give them back to him again. This was the manner of his death.

    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 04, 2024 05:19 AM (3CVIc)

    70 Yeah Fen, we all get that ZOD is shall we say "compensating" with his over the top persona. And that's OK.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:20 AM (Unmm2)

    71 Posted by: ZOD at May 04, 2024 04:04 AM (5HQE5)

    If you stare at the center and let your eyes lose focus, you will see popeye.

    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 04, 2024 05:20 AM (3CVIc)

    72
    In the middle of directing the difficult task of transferring the historically important records of the Obama administration into the National Archives, the archivist in charge, David Ferriero, ran into a serious problem: The launch codes for our nuclear arsenal are missing...

    If it was Trump.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 04, 2024 05:22 AM (RKVpM)

    73 Sorry, JQ. My phone just gave up the ghost right after you asked that question and I had to locate my husband’s phone. I am sorry you are feeling lonely. Caregiving is stressful . As Hart suggested, the psalms are always a good resources particularly 11 and 42 for courage .

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 05:23 AM (YgmgG)

    74 Rather go back to bed

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:24 AM (fwDg9)

    75 Thanks, Fen. And specially considering the trouble you went to, to respond!

    Have a wonderful weekend

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:25 AM (njWTi)

    76
    Good morning, all.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2024 05:25 AM (lCaJd)

    77 Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:20 AM (

    No; I don’t think it’s ok to tell posters who aren’t trolls and who haven’t said anything malevolent to others to go kill themselves. But yes, he seems to enjoy the little routine.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 05:26 AM (YgmgG)

    78 Local TV news reports I-80 was closed for 2 hours yesterday due to a shooter cornered by police.

    He tried to kill himself but failed.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:27 AM (RIvkX)

    79 Skip -

    If you had joined the Navy,you would know that NAVY stands for Never Again Volunteer Yourself.

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 05:27 AM (T4tVD)

    80 44 Free work
    Posted by: Skip
    ---------

    Yep. Until about.. oh... this week? Right?

    Work until mid-May or so, to pay the taxes, and then you get to 'keep' your earnings?
    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:44 AM (njWTi)

    JQ, my understanding is that Skip is doing volunteer work, charity work. He does it now and then.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:28 AM (o3SCB)

    81 Zod could maybe play the tough-guy routine against commie a-holes, our enemies, instead of us, yes?

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:29 AM (njWTi)

    82 79 Skip -

    If you had joined the Navy,you would know that NAVY stands for Never Again Volunteer Yourself.
    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 05:27 AM (T4tVD)

    LOL!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:30 AM (o3SCB)

    83 JQ, I like Ps 148 for good reminder of why we're here.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:30 AM (RIvkX)

    84 >>"Although there's been some negative sentiment on social media, far and away the feedback we get directly is that the AI is helpful, especially when just getting started in the cloud – it truly is daunting to even get started navigating hundreds of clouds each with tens of thousands of services."

    Narrator: Unfortunately, that feedback about AI being helpful was . . . AI generated.

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:30 AM (cCVOS)

    85 Was asked to do some work at a church years ago, kind of a continuation of that. Don't do enough volunteer stuff so think I should.

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:30 AM (fwDg9)

    86
    g'mornin', 'rond

    Posted by: AltonJackson at May 04, 2024 05:30 AM (tljrc)

    87 The company I work for only has a one year email retention period. Anything older gets deleted. Not archived...deleted forever.

    Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2024 05:31 AM (gDdxW)

    88 my understanding is that Skip is doing volunteer work, charity work. He does it now and then.
    Posted by: m
    --------

    That's awesome! Go you, Skip!

    -------------

    m: I can't remember the exact "tax liberation" date for U.S.---

    *That* is what went through my mind, LOL

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:32 AM (njWTi)

    89 Blueberry buttermilk scone or cinnamon coffee cake or chocolate chunk cookie.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:34 AM (RIvkX)

    90 I like Ps 148 for good reminder of why we're here.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho
    ---------

    Thanks to you, as well!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 05:34 AM (njWTi)

    91 cinnamon coffee cake
    and coffee!

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:34 AM (cCVOS)

    92 The company I work for only has a one year email retention period. Anything older gets deleted. Not archived...deleted forever.
    Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2024 05:31 AM (gDdxW)
    ===

    Not in California.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:35 AM (RIvkX)

    93 Have a good one and stay safe Skip !

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 05:35 AM (T4tVD)

    94 86 g'mornin', 'rond
    Posted by: AltonJackson at May 04, 2024 05:30 AM (tljrc)

    I spent a while trying to figure that out (b'rond, c'rond, d'rond) until I figured out 'rons!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:36 AM (o3SCB)

    95 91 cinnamon coffee cake
    and coffee!
    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:34 AM (cCVOS)

    yum

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:37 AM (o3SCB)

    96 g'mornin', Alton.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:37 AM (Unmm2)

    97 The coffee cake is a mini loaf with streusel on top. Very moist not crumbly at all.

    The last time I toasted a scone in the dark I gave my finger a blister burn because a giant crystal of sanding sugar melted on it.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:38 AM (RIvkX)

    98 Aaaand now I think I'll have to make coffee cake. . .

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:39 AM (cCVOS)

    99 99

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:40 AM (o3SCB)

    100 One before 100.!

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:40 AM (Unmm2)

    101 https://amgreatness.com/marx still reigns supreme but-why

    Good read

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:41 AM (fwDg9)

    102 You're killing me m.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:41 AM (Unmm2)

    103 89 Blueberry buttermilk scone or cinnamon coffee cake or chocolate chunk cookie.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:34 AM (RIvkX)

    Is there such a thing as a blueberry buttermilk muffin? Soft and fluffy.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:43 AM (o3SCB)

    104 A reflection on Psalm 56 vs 1-4:

    https://tinyurl.com/3jtsx7ce

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 05:44 AM (YgmgG)

    105 103 89 Blueberry buttermilk scone or cinnamon coffee cake or chocolate chunk cookie.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:34 AM (RIvkX)

    Is there such a thing as a blueberry buttermilk muffin? Soft and fluffy.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:43 AM (o3SCB)

    Or cupcake, maybe?

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:44 AM (o3SCB)

    106 I suppose there is but I don't get muffins often, occasionally I'll get cupcakes.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:45 AM (RIvkX)

    107 106 I suppose there is but I don't get muffins often, occasionally I'll get cupcakes.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 05:45 AM (RIvkX)

    I think I really don't know the difference between a muffin and a cupcake.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:46 AM (o3SCB)

    108 Saw on a cooking show a breakfast sammich with blueberry jam, cream-cheese and bacon. Looked pretty good. Want to make it sometime.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:47 AM (Unmm2)

    109 cinnamon coffee cake
    and coffee!
    Posted by: Lizzy
    ----

    Agree.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 05:48 AM (ju2Fy)

    110 100 One before 100.!
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:40 AM (Unmm2)

    There is more MATH being committed here!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:48 AM (o3SCB)

    111 At least it's finally getting light at 6am

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:49 AM (fwDg9)

    112 Today is the anniversary of the birth of a great painter- Frederic Church- of the Hudson River school. You can read about him here:

    https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/events060504/

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 05:50 AM (YgmgG)

    113 Key Lime pie here. Going out for eggs in couple of hours.

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 05:50 AM (ju2Fy)

    114 You can always make the Jif kind of muffins with buttermilk and an extra egg yolk for maximum richness.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 05:51 AM (Unmm2)

    115 Here are some of Church’s paintings:

    https://tinyurl.com/9xnmxmvf

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 05:54 AM (YgmgG)

    116 Muffins: Coarser texture, less sugar, more liquid ingredients, whole-wheat flour, baking powder or baking soda, plain or simple topping, breakfast or snack option.

    Cupcakes: Finer texture, more sugar, eggs, refined flour, butter or oil, baking powder or combination of baking powder and baking soda, frosting and decorations, dessert or special treat.

    (Brave AI answer)

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 05:55 AM (ju2Fy)

    117 The classic is blueberry buttermilk pancakes.

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:59 AM (cCVOS)

    118 The classic is blueberry buttermilk pancakes.
    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 05:59 AM (cCVOS)
    ====

    Imma whine up a batch for breakfast later.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:02 AM (RIvkX)

    119 Pretty good rule of thumb is to use buttermilk for any recipe that calls for milk. YOLO.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:02 AM (Unmm2)

    120
    Not in California.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho

    ==============

    Yes in California! Company I worked for had one of those purge policies. I think anyone who answers to a scary regulatory agency has one.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2024 06:03 AM (lCaJd)

    121 https://amgreatness.com/marx still reigns supreme but-why

    Good read
    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 05:41 AM (fwDg9)


    I read the essay, but I think the author misses the point of why Marxism/Maoism/Communism resonates with some people. The author doesn't seem to grasp that there is a spiritual component to Communism.

    In of over 150 years of failure, and 100+ millions people murdered, why do some people still find Marxism attractive? The proponents of Marxism are in pursuit of a materialist Utopia, but it goes way beyond economics. That's why utilitarian arguments (are you hearing this GOPe drones?) don't dissuade Marxists.

    Marxism requires the commission of the Sins of Pride, Theft, Anger and Envy -- all while masquerading as compassion for the poor. That's why I'm now of the belief that Marxism was inspired by Satan.

    Jesus Christ is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. If He were just some crackpot Jewish carpenter that lived 2000 years ago, why do the Marxists expend so much energy in persecuting or corrupting Christian churches?

    Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 04, 2024 06:04 AM (pJWtt)

    122 Happy Saturday

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:06 AM (ENQN6)

    123 Yes in California! Company I worked for had one of those purge policies. I think anyone who answers to a scary regulatory agency has one.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2024 06:03 AM (lCaJd)
    ===
    We have them but longer than a year. We have to keep HR and payroll records way longer than a year iirc 7 years. Resident records have to be retained 3 years.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:06 AM (RIvkX)

    124 Well I am out
    Forward Dog 9 hitting the road

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:06 AM (fwDg9)

    125 Safe trip Skip

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:08 AM (RIvkX)

    126 >>>I think I really don't know the difference between a muffin and a cupcake.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:46 AM (o3SCB)

    Depends on context. 🤔 Could be an insult or a compliment.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:09 AM (3U/ub)

    127
    We have them but longer than a year. We have to keep HR and payroll records way longer than a year iirc 7 years. Resident records have to be retained 3 years.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho

    ===============

    Records for sure. Emails that you're slinging back and forth are different.

    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2024 06:09 AM (lCaJd)

    128 Thanks for the link, Fen, beautiful paintings!

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 06:09 AM (cCVOS)

    129 Records for sure. Emails that you're slinging back and forth are different.
    Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2024 06:09 AM (lCaJd)
    ====
    Yes, other records like quality improvement meeting notes are continuously destroyed after three months.

    Sorry Your Honor, those records don't exist.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:14 AM (RIvkX)

    130 >>>Sorry Your Honor, those records don't exist.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:14 AM (RIvkX)

    Sounds like the response to any FOIA request.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:18 AM (3U/ub)

    131 By sheer chance, that Disclaimer is the same code I use for my luggage. Guess I better change it.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 06:21 AM (BpYfr)

    132 113 Key Lime pie here. Going out for eggs in couple of hours.
    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 05:50 AM (ju2Fy)

    I think Key Lime pie is good for you. Seems like it is.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:22 AM (o3SCB)

    133 We make a fundamental mistake in not calling the Left what it is and exposing the true horror of its plans for all of us. And when we fail to do that, then we’re surprised at what comes next.

    Why do we call it the Neo-Nazi Left? Because its goal is to impose a socialist state through the mass murder of millions of people, particularly but not exclusively Jews. Much as in Nazi Germany, those people include political dissenters and anyone else they see as standing in their way. What Stalin and Hitler failed to accomplish, they hope to achieve through many of the same methods.

    What is happening at Columbia University, Yale and many other schools is not an aberration, like the Weathermen plans to kill 25 million Americans, it’s the truest expression of an ugly extremist movement that has learned nothing from its worst crimes in the twentieth century.

    And we ignore their tactics and threats at our peril.

    -Robert Spencer and Daniel Greenfield

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:22 AM (RIvkX)

    134 1984 definitely paints marxism as a religion.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:23 AM (ENQN6)

    135 126 >>>I think I really don't know the difference between a muffin and a cupcake.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 05:46 AM (o3SCB)

    Depends on context. 🤔 Could be an insult or a compliment.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:09 AM (3U/ub)

    hahahahaha
    "Hey, cupcake!"

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:24 AM (o3SCB)

    136 Sounds like the response to any FOIA request.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:18 AM (3U/ub)
    ===

    When I did government consulting, we were always very strict defining what was "notes" which remained personal property and undiscoverable, and "work product" which belonged to the customer and was their property.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:26 AM (RIvkX)

    137
    Sorry Your Honor, those records don't exist.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:14 AM (RIvkX)


    You don't hire lawyers to tell you what the right thing to do is, you hire lawyers to tell you what you can get away with.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 06:28 AM (MoZTd)

    138 @WhiteHouse
    ·
    Follow
    There is no place for hate speech and violence of any kind in America – whether it’s antisemitism, Islamophobia, discrimination against Arab Americans and Palestinian Americans.

    Kind of missed the point.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:31 AM (ENQN6)

    139 138 @WhiteHouse
    ·
    Follow
    There is no place for hate speech and violence of any kind in America – whether it’s antisemitism, Islamophobia, discrimination against Arab Americans and Palestinian Americans.

    Kind of missed the point.
    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:31 AM (ENQN6)

    Kinda showed his hand.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:37 AM (o3SCB)

    140 ‘Lift that coffee, tote that biscuit!’

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 06:39 AM (o2ZRX)

    141 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:40 AM (Be/+i)

    142 Evening and morning to the Saturday folken!

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 06:41 AM (omVj0)

    143 via @Mossadil

    Mossad Commentary retweeted
    Historic Vids
    @historyinmemes
    16h
    Man found names of his family members who perished in the Holocaust in Auschwitz

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:41 AM (o3SCB)

    144 I think I really don't know the difference between a muffin and a cupcake.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024


    ***
    I think a cupcake has icing on the top surface, and a muffin doesn't?

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 06:42 AM (omVj0)

    145 131 By sheer chance, that Disclaimer is the same code I use for my luggage. Guess I better change it.
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 04, 2024 06:21 AM (BpYfr)


    I just use John Podesta's password for my luggage.

    Posted by: President Skroob at May 04, 2024 06:42 AM (PiwSw)

    146 I think I really don't know the difference between a muffin and a cupcake.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024

    ***
    I think a cupcake has icing on the top surface, and a muffin doesn't?
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 06:42 AM (omVj0)
    -----------
    And how is it that English muffins and poppy seed muffins are of the same genus?

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:43 AM (Be/+i)

    147 144 I think I really don't know the difference between a muffin and a cupcake.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024

    ***
    I think a cupcake has icing on the top surface, and a muffin doesn't?
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 06:42 AM (omVj0)

    It's complicated.

    116 Muffins: Coarser texture, less sugar, more liquid ingredients, whole-wheat flour, baking powder or baking soda, plain or simple topping, breakfast or snack option.

    Cupcakes: Finer texture, more sugar, eggs, refined flour, butter or oil, baking powder or combination of baking powder and baking soda, frosting and decorations, dessert or special treat.

    (Brave AI answer)
    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 04, 2024 05:55 AM (ju2Fy)

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:43 AM (o3SCB)

    148 Cupcakes give up while muffins keep going.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 06:44 AM (o2ZRX)

    149 I'm not sure industral scale murder a la the Nazis is a goal of the modern globalist oligarchic Left. Not that I think they would have any moral or philosophical disinclination to it. I rather think for them today it's more a matter of power, control and wealth and its going too good to rock the boat.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:44 AM (3U/ub)

    150 I finally gave up last night and took a couple of the cold/flu symptom pills in my med cabinet. Afraid the acetaminophen would have poor effects on me, never mind what, I'd been avoiding such products. But I spent an hour coughing once I lay down. At last I gave in.

    Slept seven hours. No aftereffects except that I still sound tinny.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 06:45 AM (omVj0)

    151 I'm not sure industral scale murder a la the Nazis is a goal of the modern globalist oligarchic Left. Not that I think they would have any moral or philosophical disinclination to it. I rather think for them today it's more a matter of power, control and wealth and its going too good to rock the boat.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:44 AM (3U/ub)
    -----------
    I think they'd be satisfied with a really bad famine.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:45 AM (Be/+i)

    152 IN IPCC

    "While media and political activists assert that the evidence for increasing harms from increasing extreme weather is iron-clad, it is anything but. In fact, it is quite limited, and of low reliability. Claims about extreme weather should not be used as the basis for committing to long-term regulatory regimes that will hurt current Canadian standards of living, and leave future generations worse off."

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:46 AM (ENQN6)

    153 141 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:40 AM (Be/+i)

    I've been doing this a lot lately. Twinings.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (o3SCB)

    154 I think they'd be satisfied with a really bad famine.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:45 AM (Be/+i)


    Cool. We can handle that.

    Posted by: The Intellectual Heirs of Walter Duranty at the NYT at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (PiwSw)

    155 I've been doing this a lot lately. Twinings.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (o3SCB)
    -----------
    *fistbump*

    Me too.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (Be/+i)

    156 >>@WhiteHouse
    ·
    Follow
    There is no place for hate speech and violence of any kind in America – whether it’s antisemitism, Islamophobia, discrimination against Arab Americans and Palestinian Americans.

    How soon can we expect to hear Biden or some other Democrat tell us, yet again, that Christian Nationalists are the "biggest threat to Our Democracy(tm)"?

    But please, sheeple, stop it with your religious prejudice!! We don't tolerate hate around here (wink, wink).

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (cCVOS)

    157
    Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:40 AM (Be/+i)

    I've been doing this a lot lately. Twinings.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (o3SCB)


    I have never been a tea person. Just don't like the flavor. Not to denigrate the pleasure others get from it.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 06:49 AM (MoZTd)

    158 I have never been a tea person. Just don't like the flavor. Not to denigrate the pleasure others get from it.
    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 06:49 AM (MoZTd)
    -----------
    Not crazy about coffee. I only drink it at reenactments, and then with a lump of brown sugar about thiiiis big.

    *displays fist*

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:50 AM (Be/+i)

    159 Slept seven hours. No aftereffects except that I still sound tinny.
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 06:45 AM (omVj0
    Luxury. It’s been 20 years since I slept 7 hours straight.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 06:50 AM (o2ZRX)

    160 159 It’s been 20 years since I slept 7 hours straight.
    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 06:50 AM (o2ZRX)

    I'm sorry.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:51 AM (o3SCB)

    161 >>Claims about extreme weather should not be used as the basis for committing to long-term regulatory regimes that will hurt current Canadian standards of living, and leave future generations worse off."


    Ah, OK, so they get a pass on the whole "climate is not weather" thing?

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 06:51 AM (cCVOS)

    162 Made it to location ok.

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:52 AM (gl915)

    163 >>>Cool. We can handle that.
    Posted by: The Intellectual Heirs of Walter Duranty at the NYT at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (PiwSw)

    I think you mean you can cover that up.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:53 AM (3U/ub)

    164 I never sleep in a straight session, it's 1 - 3 wakeup every night

    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:53 AM (gl915)

    165 Supposed to be rainy all day, here.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:54 AM (Be/+i)

    166 163 >>>Cool. We can handle that.
    Posted by: The Intellectual Heirs of Walter Duranty at the NYT at May 04, 2024 06:48 AM (PiwSw)

    I think you mean you can cover that up.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:53 AM (3U/ub)


    That's what "All the news that's fit to print" means, silly.

    Posted by: The Intellectual Heirs of Walter Duranty at the NYT at May 04, 2024 06:54 AM (PiwSw)

    167 Baby boom in a KY sheriff’s office. Cute photo:

    https://tinyurl.com/y9djss9k

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2024 06:55 AM (qRe8u)

    168 Birdbath status?

    Posted by: Just Wondering at May 04, 2024 06:55 AM (dg+HA)

    169 Coffee!

    And then buff out the poem I have written for the Las Cruces Literary Fest, Generations project which I will read on May 19th at the Rio grande theater.

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 06:56 AM (hqGCh)

    170 LOL via @TheMossadIL (parody site)

    The Mossad: Satirical, Yet Awesome retweeted
    Documenting Israel
    @DocumentIsrael
    21h
    Time to vote for Israel regarding the Eurovision. You cannot vote for Israel from Israel though so people abroad please vote for Israel 🙏🏽

    It is just for fun and to stick it to the haters! Link below!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 06:57 AM (o3SCB)

    171 I'm not sure industral scale murder a la the Nazis is a goal of the modern globalist oligarchic Left. Not that I think they would have any moral or philosophical disinclination to it. I rather think for them today it's more a matter of power, control and wealth and its going too good to rock the boat.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 06:44 AM (3U/ub)
    ====
    This is a point worth considering but I think they have demonstrated it is only a matter of context and convenience that determines what action is necessary in pursuit of power.

    How many eggs will need to be broken to make the omelette will be broken.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 06:57 AM (RIvkX)

    172
    Lots of booming and rumbling at 2:30 this morning, but when I went outside to go down to the kennel I didn't see any evidence that it had rained. Places north of Houston have gotten about half their average annual rainfall in five days, though.

    Have to get the yard shortened today because it really is expected to rain on Sunday morning.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 06:57 AM (MoZTd)

    173 CLUSTERFUCK NATION –
    Nostalgia for the Mud
    “Resentful childless harpies unconsciously longing for domination. Why else worship at the altar of Hamas? Why else would it be so overwhelmingly female?” — Dr. Jordan Peterson

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 06:57 AM (ENQN6)

    174 50 youtube.com/watch?v=RRh0QiXyZSk

    Sixteen Tons

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:54 AM (njWTi)
    ----
    Great song and a great voice.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free coal at May 04, 2024 06:57 AM (qfLjt)

    175 youtube.com/watch?v=RRh0QiXyZSk

    Sixteen Tons

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 04:54 AM (njWTi)
    ----
    Great song and a great voice.
    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free coal at May 04, 2024 06:57 AM (qfLjt)
    -----------
    He and Thurl Ravenscroft had awesome bass voices.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 06:59 AM (Be/+i)

    176
    I'm not sure industral scale murder a la the Nazis is a goal of the modern globalist oligarchic Left.

    Think global, act local. There won't be any central policy. People will be subjected to the whims of their nearest potentates.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2024 07:00 AM (MoZTd)

    177 >>“Resentful childless harpies unconsciously longing for domination. Why else worship at the altar of Hamas? Why else would it be so overwhelmingly female?” — Dr. Jordan Peterson


    They've rejected God?

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 07:03 AM (cCVOS)

    178 164 I never sleep in a straight session, it's 1 - 3 wakeup every night
    Posted by: Skip at May 04, 2024 06:53 AM (gl915)
    Is it your prostrate whispering ‘Skip…..Skip, wake up. You have to take a leak.’?

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 07:03 AM (o2ZRX)

    179 I see that Biden's personal Gestapo, the DOJ, is now suing Iowa over its new immigration law set to go into effect in July. Every red state needs to tell the feds to FOAD.

    https://tinyurl.com/46fpd93p

    Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at May 04, 2024 07:04 AM (iODuv)

    180 Birdbath status?
    Posted by: Just Wondering

    Serving customers.

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 07:04 AM (T4tVD)

    181 He and Thurl Ravenscroft had awesome bass voices.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

    Who he ?

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 07:05 AM (T4tVD)

    182 Is it your prostrate whispering ‘Skip…..Skip, wake up. You have to take a leak.’?
    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 07:03 AM (o2ZRX)
    ===

    Not my prostate but the many voices arguing in my head.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 07:05 AM (RIvkX)

    183 He and Thurl Ravenscroft had awesome bass voices.
    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

    Who he ?
    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 07:05 AM (T4tVD)
    -----------
    He - Tennesse Ernie Ford.

    Thurl Ravenscroft = Tony the Tiger (among many other things)

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 07:06 AM (Be/+i)

    184 Slept seven hours. No aftereffects except that I still sound tinny.
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024
    *
    Luxury. It’s been 20 years since I slept 7 hours straight.
    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024


    ***
    Pretty much me too, unless I use melatonin & magnesium, a CBD gummie, and the cold med I popped last night. The cold med made the difference; it kept me from coughing.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:07 AM (omVj0)

    185 Special counsel Jack Smith’s team acknowledged Friday that some evidence in the prosecution of former President Donald Trump for hoarding classified documents at his Florida home may not be in the same sequence FBI agents found it when they swept into the Mar-a-Lago compound with a search warrant in August 2022.

    In their filing, prosecutors acknowledged the government had previously — and incorrectly — told U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon that the boxes remained “in their original, intact form as seized.

    So the cig butt with the DNA was found at the watering hole the defendant frequents and not at the murder scene.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 04, 2024 07:08 AM (ENQN6)

    186 Looking at the pictures of Biden handing out the Medal of Freedom reminds me of Brezhnev heading out awards to his politburo members probably for simply for staying alive.

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:09 AM (hqGCh)

    187 I meant prostate wants you to go take a leak, the prostrate just wants you to lay there.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 07:09 AM (o2ZRX)

    188 Byeee...

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 04, 2024 07:10 AM (Be/+i)

    189 plus video

    Stephen L. Miller retweeted
    Eric Abbenante
    @EricAbbenante
    17h
    Don Lemon calls out Taylor Lorenz for falsely equating the 'lack of freedoms' between people in Texas / Florida and Gaza:
    DL: "Taylor, how do you reconcile the way marginalized groups fighting for what's happening in Gaza, yet in Gaza, they would not have any freedom."
    TL: "They don't have any freedoms in Texas and Florida"
    DL: "Taylor I'm a member of the LGBTQ community, if I go to Texas they're not going to throw me off a roof."
    In a disturbing turn of events, Don Lemon became the voice of reason.
    Taylor, we'd all be happy to contribute to your free one way ticket to Gaza.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 07:10 AM (o3SCB)

    190 The DOJ has used the January 6 rally in the exact same way and for the exact same purpose the Nazis used the Reichstag fire.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 07:10 AM (RIvkX)

    191 So the cig butt with the DNA was found at the watering hole the defendant frequents and not at the murder scene.
    Posted by: rhennigantx

    Speaking of DNA, any mention If any FBI DNA was found on Melania's underwear?

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:11 AM (hqGCh)

    192 The DOJ has used the January 6 rally in the exact same way and for the exact same purpose the Nazis used the Reichstag fire.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho

    Yep.

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:12 AM (hqGCh)

    193 mornin yall. It's World Naked Gardening Day. It should be an interesting Gardening thread. I won't be there though, we are off to Jekyll Island today.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 07:12 AM (vFG9F)

    194 You mean Google just wiped every thing with a cloth?

    Like wiped?

    Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton, Liar and Cheat To The Court at May 04, 2024 07:13 AM (R/m4+)

    195 Boker Tov Patriots

    For the first time in weeks, I am mostly free this weekend

    Now what? LOL

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 07:16 AM (SHAib)

    196 If you've ever considered tending to your tulips in the buff, now you can find out where the best place would be to do so.

    To mark World Naked Gardening Day on May 4, the best cities for nude gardening have been uncovered.

    Miami, Florida, has been unveiled as the best city for naked gardening in 2023, with Austin, Texas coming in second and Atlanta Georgia in third place, according to LawnStarter.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 07:18 AM (vFG9F)

    197 I'm not sure industral scale murder a la the Nazis is a goal of the modern globalist oligarchic Left.

    --

    There have been ~1M abortions each year since 1973, mainly minorities, with Margaret Sanger and SCOTUS Justices outright stating that's the desired goal and a very positive thing.

    I think they're absolutely, perfectly comfortable knowing those doubts exist and they use it in their favor.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms and you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:20 AM (rWGyP)

    198 May the Fourth Be With You

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:20 AM (omVj0)

    199 The worst city for naked gardening is Newark, NJ.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 07:20 AM (vFG9F)

    200 195 Boker Tov Patriots

    For the first time in weeks, I am mostly free this weekend

    Now what? LOL
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 07:16 AM
    First, bagels and coffee, then services. After that the day is yours. Maybe a range trip to prepare for Corsicana?

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 07:20 AM (o2ZRX)

    201 Now what? LOL
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 07:16 AM
    First, bagels and coffee, then services. After that the day is yours. Maybe a range trip to prepare for Corsicana?
    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 07:20 AM (o2ZRX)

    Well I might miss the Services, being the heathen I am

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 07:22 AM (SHAib)

    202 I don't think Google had any intent of hiding internal communications from the Eurovision judge.

    Posted by: James Comey, Pansy and A Lout at May 04, 2024 07:24 AM (R/m4+)

    203 A lot of searches come up with AI generated articles. It doesn't take long to identify them. The Internet is a huge garbage dump.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 07:24 AM (vFG9F)

    204 Well I might miss the Services, being the heathen I am
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 07:22 AM (SHAib
    So can we put you down for the bagels and range?

    Posted by: Eromero at May 04, 2024 07:25 AM (o2ZRX)

    205 We took a week long Jekyll Island and Lake Okeefanokee (sp?) trip a few years ago. Tremendous fun and both places are now near the top of my favorites list for completely different reasons.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms and you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:25 AM (rWGyP)

    206 I don't know why I wrote lake. Swamp. What the heck.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms and you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:25 AM (rWGyP)

    207 Lake Okeefanokee. I'm either having a stroke or need some coffee. Hopefully it's the coffee and I will go remedy that now.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms and you told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:26 AM (rWGyP)

    208 Death Valley Days from 1956 has a very young, pre-Rawhide Clint Eastwood in a small role this morning. He was, what, 26?

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:27 AM (omVj0)

    209 Because why not, a compilation of Soapbox Derby crashes.

    https://youtu.be/neoM9HHdo8o

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:28 AM (hqGCh)

    210 Look up the SONY-BMG rootkit scandal, and the removal of the "OtherOS" option on the Playstation 3 post-purchase with a software update that came later. This is a company I avoid doing any business with.

    Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 04, 2024 07:29 AM (O7YUW)

    211 How does Karine Jean-Pierre even live with herself.

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 07:29 AM (o3SCB)

    212 No services no slivovitz.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 07:29 AM (RIvkX)

    213 How does Karine Jean-Pierre even live with herself.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024


    ***
    How does she get down to the grocery without breaking a leg, is what I want to know

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:31 AM (omVj0)

    214 I've got some kin down in Waycross and have spent some time in the Okefenokee. In the summertime it's something like being in a sauna infested with mosquitoes and alligators.

    Posted by: fd at May 04, 2024 07:31 AM (vFG9F)

    215 plus video

    Stephen L. Miller retweeted
    Townhall.com
    @townhallcom
    16h
    REPORTER: "The president said he wants to let the Trump tax cuts expire. If that law expires, it does raise taxes on almost every American. Does he still support that expiring without anything else in place?"

    KJP: "The president is going to allow the Trump tax cut expire. He was very clear. But he will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400,000/year…It’s going to expire for the wealthy."

    REPORTER: "The president can’t pick and choose which parts of the law sunsets. The entire law will sunset, and the Tax Foundation says that someone who's married, two kids, making $85,000 would pay $1,700 more in taxes. That's somebody under $400K—"

    KJP: BUT REPUBLICANS

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 07:33 AM (o3SCB)

    216 Miss Linda and I are going to an alumni brunch this morning (we both graduated from the same university, albeit about six years apart). It's apparently free, and while I don't know what they'll be serving, hey, free! She can have a mimosa or two (isn't that traditional at brunches?).

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:33 AM (omVj0)

    217 Miss Linda and I are going to an alumni brunch this morning (we both graduated from the same university, albeit about six years apart). It's apparently free, and while I don't know what they'll be serving, hey, free! She can have a mimosa or two (isn't that traditional at brunches?).
    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

    I'm going down to the local Elks Club to get fleeced out of 40 bucks at the Kentucky Derby event. I've never reconciled. If knowing in advance you're going to get fleeced out of money is better or worse than realizing it later.

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:35 AM (hqGCh)

    218 Breaking news: The tulips on my tulip poplar are in full bloom.

    This has been your tulip poplar update.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 07:37 AM (dg+HA)

    219 I'm going down to the local Elks Club to get fleeced out of 40 bucks at the Kentucky Derby event. I've never reconciled. If knowing in advance you're going to get fleeced out of money is better or worse than realizing it later.
    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024


    ***
    If you know in advance, you can skip going!

    If you mean it's something you can't get out of, then yes, after is better.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:39 AM (omVj0)

    220 I have the door open, and the furry thugs are sitting at the screen door watching something. There's nothing worth looking at that I can see -- but I'm not a hunting carnivore.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:40 AM (omVj0)

    221 218 Breaking news: The tulips on my tulip poplar are in full bloom.

    This has been your tulip poplar update.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 07:37 AM (dg+HA)
    ----
    Were you naked when you ascertained that?

    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free coals at May 04, 2024 07:43 AM (qfLjt)

    222 Think I'll put a couple bucks on a longshot for the yuks.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 07:43 AM (eeYo9)

    223 What is the URL for that Eurovision voting?

    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free anthracite coals at May 04, 2024 07:43 AM (qfLjt)

    224 How does Karine Jean-Pierre even live with herself.

    -

    It's worse than that. I guarantee - and would bet big deed-to-my-house money - that she knows without a bit of doubt
    that she's the smartest person in any room.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:44 AM (GESjI)

    225 Why does anyone want to garden naked?

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 07:45 AM (RIvkX)

    226 213 How does Karine Jean-Pierre even live with herself.
    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024

    The question of the ages.

    Posted by: Ordinary American at May 04, 2024 07:45 AM (N0VUS)

    227 In KJP's life, no authority figure has ever told her that her performance is substandard.

    Sadly, that's most of Washington. Both parties.

    Posted by: Wally at May 04, 2024 07:46 AM (EyElY)

    228 How does Karine Jean-Pierre even live with herself.

    It's worse than that. I guarantee - and would bet big deed-to-my-house money - that she knows without a bit of doubt
    that she's the smartest person in any room.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie

    I always wonder if she's truly internalized that at least half the country probably a lot more think she's a complete idiot.

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:46 AM (hqGCh)

    229 221 218 Breaking news: The tulips on my tulip poplar are in full bloom.

    This has been your tulip poplar update.

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 07:37 AM (dg+HA)
    ----
    Were you naked when you ascertained that?
    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free anthracite coals

    Ahem. I'll have you know I'm altogether kempt, gainly and dare I say, gruntled!

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 07:47 AM (dg+HA)

    230 225 Why does anyone want to garden naked?
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 07:45 AM (RIvkX)

    Bug fetishists?

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 04, 2024 07:48 AM (di6C2)

    231 KJP = DMV employee with a relative who was friends with Obama

    I don't know if she's related to anyone but I assume that's the case. She's definitely little more than the person you'd meet trying to get your tag renewed in Atlanta, Birmingham, etc.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:51 AM (GESjI)

    232 Why does anyone want to garden naked?

    It was fun for awhile.

    Posted by: Adam and Eve at May 04, 2024 07:52 AM (dg+HA)

    233 How does Karine Jean-Pierre even live with herself.


    I thought she lives with another gay blade?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2024 07:52 AM (SHAib)

    234 KJP is I suspect is the lesbian bar hookup diversity hire.

    Posted by: Lost in Space at May 04, 2024 07:52 AM (hqGCh)

    235 229
    Were you naked when you ascertained that?
    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free anthracite coals

    Ahem. I'll have you know I'm altogether kempt, gainly and dare I say, gruntled!

    Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 04, 2024 07:47 AM (dg+HA)
    ----
    I smiled. Reminded me of this one:

    And the disappointed little girl said, "Mommy, what did you bring that book I didn't want to be read to out of up for?"

    Posted by: Ciampino - pronouns & proverbs at May 04, 2024 07:52 AM (qfLjt)

    236 In KJP's life, no authority figure has ever told her that her performance is substandard.
    Sadly, that's most of Washington. Both parties.
    Posted by: Wally at May 04, 2024 07:46 AM (EyElY)

    Like all parasites, she goes from job to job never really working or producing anything of value while being highly compensated. She thinks she is that and a bag of chips.

    She should be back in Haiti helping whatever warlord's harem she would be in light the coals on his brazier between the midnight rape, not "working" in the white out house.

    More coffee...

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 04, 2024 07:54 AM (R/m4+)

    237 It's worse than that. I guarantee - and would bet big deed-to-my-house money - that she knows without a bit of doubt
    that she's the smartest person in any room.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:44 AM (GESjI)


    I don't get that sense. I think she probably knows she has some limitations but she's worked so hard to "earn" all the success she has achieved, lol.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 07:54 AM (eeYo9)

    238 “This is the sort of English up with which I will not put.”

    Posted by: Winston Churchill at May 04, 2024 07:56 AM (dg+HA)

    239 KJP has had some doozies, but the one where Charlottesville was responsible for the jew hate and terrorist violence of the student protests has been my favorite.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:56 AM (GESjI)

    240 I guarantee - and would bet big deed-to-my-house money - that she knows without a bit of doubt
    that she's the smartest person in any room.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 07:44 AM (GESjI)

    I don't get that sense. I think she probably knows she has some limitations but she's worked so hard to "earn" all the success she has achieved, lol.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024


    ***
    She'd go catatonic if anybody told her the real truth.

    Who am I kidding, she'd shrug it off with "What does that white racist know?"

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 07:57 AM (omVj0)

    241 I got a letter from Social Security. They mad I missed an appointment.

    An appointment they canceled and rescheduled 3 times. We had the appointment but they still mad.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 07:58 AM (RIvkX)

    242 Good morning to one and all. Did you know that all the kelp is dying because of climate change?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:59 AM (mKjJV)

    243 I don't get that sense. I think she probably knows she has some limitations but she's worked so hard to "earn" all the success she has achieved, lol.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024

    --

    Where in Iowa do you live?

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 04, 2024 08:00 AM (GESjI)

    244 Time for me to head to the head, shave and shower.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 08:00 AM (omVj0)

    245 Good morning to one and all. Did you know that all the kelp is dying because of climate change?
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024


    ***
    We're helpless to stop it. There's no kelp for it.

    Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 04, 2024 08:01 AM (omVj0)

    246 Good morning to one and all. Did you know that all the kelp is dying because of climate change?
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 07:59 AM (mKjJV)

    Ocean's dying, plankton's dying... it's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!

    Posted by: Detective Thorn at May 04, 2024 08:03 AM (R/m4+)

    247 >>Why does anyone want to garden naked?


    This.
    Oops I dropped the hori hori -- OUCH!!!!!

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:04 AM (cCVOS)

    248 Northern Gaza is in full bloom starvation according to Cindy McCain.

    Send 'em some beer Cindy, it's very filling

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 04, 2024 08:05 AM (mKjJV)

    249 It's a cookbook!

    Posted by: Rod Sterling at May 04, 2024 08:05 AM (dg+HA)

    250 Nood coffee time

    Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 04, 2024 08:05 AM (8AONa)

    251 >>Good morning to one and all. Did you know that all the kelp is dying because of climate change?


    "And what about us - do we get any love? We're cuter than friggin' kelp. . ."
    -- Birds and whales being slaughtered by wind farm projects

    Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2024 08:07 AM (cCVOS)

    252 Ocean's dying, plankton's dying... it's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!
    Posted by: Detective Thorn at May 04, 2024 08:03 AM (R/m4+)
    ===

    I was just telling a millenial about this movie. Charlton Heston was teh awesome. Edward G. Robinson. Actors like this never existed in her world.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2024 08:07 AM (RIvkX)

    253
    I got the horse right here,
    The name is Paul Revere.
    And here's a guy that says that if the weather's clear,
    Can do, can do, this guy says the horse can do.
    If he says the horse can do, can do, can do.

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 08:08 AM (/7KEl)

    254 Good luck, Pixy!

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 08:15 AM (o3SCB)

    255 Every company I work for has manditory email purging. I guess I thought the company still keeps them archived for legal purposes but no one wants it to be easy for just anyone to access a history of correspondence. Which makes the technology about 90% less useful or I'll say no more useful than some guy down the hall shouting at you.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2024 08:24 AM (Y6IkP)

    256 Apparently Helldivers 2 got review bombed into oblivion over the PSN linking requirement, and started getting waves of refund requests.

    It sounds like this was a direction from Sony, and it also sounds like Arrowhead did not originally realize the game was being sold in areas that can't use PSN accounts. The CEO says they're trying to work something out so people who bought it don't lose access.

    Overall I'm going to wait and see what happens.

    Oh and Sony is working on rolling out automated AI powered moderation and anti-griefing across all PSN games which I'm sure won't cause any problems ever at all...

    Posted by: Voyager at May 04, 2024 10:01 AM (nmL8W)

    The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down An ONT

    Hi everyone! Welcome to Friday Meme Mad...What, again? Guys, this isn't funny anymore.

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    Fido Friday: Doggo to the rescue!


    Painful truths

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    With age comes wisdom

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    Black queen


    Where are they now: Gargamel

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    We used to be a proper country

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    Light workout


    It pays to increase your word power

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    Sing Along

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    Rock out with your cock out


    Topical meme

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    Tonight's ingraphic

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    Dudes being dudes


    Captain Marvel

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    This is from Captain Marvel Adventures #16 (1942) What I find interesting is that while the Steamboat character (and all black characters except Steamboat's girlfriend) is drawn in a style that would be unacceptable today, none of them is depicted doing any stereotypical 1940s "negro things" (like eating fried chicken and watermelon, etc...). The Japanese soldiers Captain Marvel fights earlier in the issue are also drawn in a very stereotypical (slanty eyes and buck teeth) manner. Plus there's an article titled A Dead Jap Is A Good Jap. Different times.

    Mind in the gutter

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    Little man has skills


    Coming soon from Vox

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    Feline Friday

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    Auto-rotate


    Pronouns

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    Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by liberals:

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    Posted by: WeirdDave at 10:00 PM




    Comments

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    1 Well !

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 09:58 PM (w6EFb)

    2 Weird

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 09:58 PM (u73oe)

    3 Ok, now it’s loading.

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (u73oe)

    4 How do I stop this thing from jumping around? It's like hell to comment.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (w6EFb)

    5 Another nice one WD!
    Thanks

    Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at May 03, 2024 10:00 PM (hOUT3)

    6 Good evening everyone.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 10:00 PM (WXNFJ)

    7 Good evening horde. Ready for another ONT. Thanks WD.

    Posted by: TRex at May 03, 2024 10:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

    8 STARS!!!

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 10:03 PM (u73oe)

    9 I just read/sang some of Dickenson's poems to my wife.


    She hates you WD. LOL

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 10:03 PM (WXNFJ)

    10 That sign about the texting delay describes me perfectly.

    In fact, it's likely to be 4:36 AM the day after next.

    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:04 PM (g0Y4p)

    11
    This is the most ONTiest ONT I've ever seen.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 10:05 PM (MoZTd)

    12 You can also sing Emily Dickinson's poems to "Amazing Grace."

    Posted by: pookysgirl, actually using her Poetry class for once at May 03, 2024 10:06 PM (dtlDP)

    13 Was this blog down earlier today, or was it just my computer?

    Posted by: davidt at May 03, 2024 10:06 PM (SYTee)

    14 I just read the dumbest article on a new lefty silliness called micro feminism and I think I need a drink. And I don’t drink.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:06 PM (+tzkt)

    15 Was this blog down earlier today, or was it just my computer?
    Posted by: davidt

    Where I am (Western Wa.) most of the county was down all day.

    Posted by: Some Rat at May 03, 2024 10:07 PM (vJiyU)

    16 13 Was this blog down earlier today, or was it just my computer?
    Posted by: davidt at May 03

    Hamsters went on strike, which caused the barrel to turn inside out which caused a rip in the space time continuum.

    It’s all okay now, though.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:07 PM (+tzkt)

    17
    I just read/sang some of Dickenson's poems to my wife.

    _______

    *smashes book to pulp*

    Sorry

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 10:08 PM (MoZTd)

    18 Evenin'

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 10:08 PM (xA5g+)

    19 Yahoo Sports Headline
    Fever (women's pro basketball) Move Caitlin Clark's preseason Home Debut to Accommodate Pacer's Playoff Schedule.
    Ah, no. Inside we learn the NBA declared same time and date for Pacer's next game. I.e. move your asses gals.

    Posted by: From about that Time at May 03, 2024 10:08 PM (4780s)

    20 Beautiful Black Queen was funny.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2024 10:08 PM (ufFY8)

    21 I just read the dumbest article on a new lefty silliness called micro feminism and I think I need a drink. And I don’t drink.
    Posted by: Piper

    Used to be the outrage was like once a month, now it's a daily thing.

    Posted by: Some Rat at May 03, 2024 10:09 PM (vJiyU)

    22 Yay, Friday WD ONT - necessary medicine.

    BTW, meme lovers, you no longer need to plow through Ann Barnhardt's wordy blog to find her meme posts.
    http://www.barnhardtmemes.com/

    I'm pretty sure she has often raided WD's meme posts for content.

    Speaking of content, now to peruse the post du jour.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - yok yok at May 03, 2024 10:09 PM (RLsaS)

    23 Girthy content tonight. Good job.

    Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 03, 2024 10:09 PM (Js20g)

    24 How do?

    Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at May 03, 2024 10:09 PM (duT0u)

    25 It’s all okay now, though.
    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:07 PM (+tzkt)

    ——————

    Really? Then why is there a giraffe in my front yard?

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 10:09 PM (u73oe)

    26 I once saw a man forming a sidewalk. His young son was dressed like his dad (hard hat and vest), and was helping him, with the trowel. there are still good dads out there.

    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 03, 2024 10:09 PM (gPzkP)

    27 Stop it from jumping around?
    Um yeah, good luck with that.
    Gotta love that repeating pop-up at the bottom too.
    So I'm gonna leave ya with something that ease the craze.

    A very talented, young Mr T
    Just hangin' back on an SG
    While two older masters weave a tapestry

    https://tinyurl.com/3b52aspr

    Posted by: TeeJ at May 03, 2024 10:10 PM (xZpzx)

    28 Did the kid get paid or is he one of them free masons?

    Posted by: davidt at May 03, 2024 10:11 PM (SYTee)

    29 > I just read the dumbest article on a new lefty silliness called micro feminism
    ----


    teeny tiny feminists
    like 2" tall

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 10:11 PM (/7KEl)

    30 The Japs shot off Beau's shins. And shot down Uncle Bootsy before he...

    ...anyway.

    Posted by: Joe Biden at May 03, 2024 10:12 PM (LaNzR)

    31 That juggler is impressive.
    Best I could do were the heavy clay bocce balls. And that was long ago.

    Posted by: From about that Time at May 03, 2024 10:12 PM (4780s)

    32 Good stuff WD. Thank you. I like the tire juggling, but I feel seen by the dog with harmful commentary.

    Posted by: TRex at May 03, 2024 10:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

    33 Do we know when Pixy starts moving hamsters to the new server? And when do we need to remember Green Eggs With Ham, er, green orange?

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 10:13 PM (VNX3d)

    34 Love the Noem meme. Stupid bint. If you have to do it, shoot it, shovel it and shut up about it -- forever.

    The Too Much Information Generation.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 10:13 PM (emlEe)

    35 Yay, Paranormal Day ONT!

    Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 03, 2024 10:14 PM (dZVON)

    36 Did the blog outages remove the courtesy of throwing a nood?

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:14 PM (di6C2)

    37 Thanks for the ONT.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:14 PM (di6C2)

    38 That Kristi Noem meme is spicy.

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (q7hip)

    39 The 70's.

    Bloody hell.

    Onesies for dudes.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (di6C2)

    40 Love the Noem meme. Stupid bint. If you have to do it, shoot it, shovel it and shut up about it -- forever.

    The Too Much Information Generation.
    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 10:13 PM (emlEe)


    You're not impressed by her proving what a rough 'n' tough Western mama she is?!

    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (g0Y4p)

    41 Kid gets to use a screed and a trowel. Luxury! Why, in my day, we used our bare, bleeding hands to pat the concrete into place, and put the final finish on with our tongues!

    Posted by: A Yorkshireman at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (Js20g)

    42 23 Used to be the outrage was like once a month, now it's a daily thing.
    Posted by: Some Rat at May 03, 2024

    Okay, so to support women, these gals address their emails with the women first. Can you believe the bravery? Or another woman refuses to call her doctor “doctor Jones” if he calls her by her first name. Go girl! And another brave, trail blazing soul doesn’t use Mr. and Mrs. Steven Smith on address labels. Oh no! She addresses it Annie and Steve Smith. The coup de grace was some guy who said he wasn’t sure how much space he was allowed to occupy in the conversation, but he schedules play dates WITH OTHER FATHERS TO ENSURE THEY ARE ENGAGED! I need a fainting couch.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (u/mEj)

    43 Obligatory VeggieTales video for this ONT:

    https://youtu.be/5BR2Kt_sgfM

    Posted by: pookysgirl likes strawberries and bananas at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (dtlDP)

    44 Can you imagine the tails of terror we would hear if the Biden’s dogs could talk? Or if they started their own blog on the White House site?

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 10:16 PM (VNX3d)

    45 28 Did the kid get paid or is he one of them free masons?

    Posted by: davidt at May 03, 2024 10:11 PM
    ***
    Golf clap. Well played.

    Posted by: TRex at May 03, 2024 10:16 PM (IQ6Gq)

    46 Yes, the blog was down.

    Yes, Ace forgot to pay his electricity bill.

    No, the COBs still didn't get the day off.

    Yes, Pixy was laughing his ass off at Ace.

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 10:17 PM (q7hip)

    47 Dateline: North Bend, WA.
    Day Six, of the great Northwest Zebra hunt.
    King County authorities believe they are getting closer.

    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 03, 2024 10:17 PM (KCc/j)

    48 Yes, Pixy was laughing his ass off at Ace.

    Good to know that some things never change.

    Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 03, 2024 10:18 PM (dZVON)

    49 You're not impressed by her proving what a rough 'n' tough Western mama she is?!
    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (g0Y4p)

    https://tinyurl.com/4kyj2y5a

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:18 PM (di6C2)

    50 25
    Really? Then why is there a giraffe in my front yard?
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 10

    That is because I volunteered to process all the refunds for the time down and we ran out of money.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:19 PM (u/mEj)

    51 You're not impressed by her proving what a rough 'n' tough Western mama she is?!
    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (g0Y4p)


    Country life is country life. You don't brag about it. You just live it.

    So no, I'm not impressed in the least. Another pantsuit trying to show she also wears a pair of balls. Wrong party, Honey.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 10:19 PM (emlEe)

    52
    🏒 Watching DAL at VGK

    don't have a dog in this fight, but COL plays the winner in the next round 🏆

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 10:20 PM (/7KEl)

    53 https://tinyurl.com/4kyj2y5a
    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:18 PM (di6C2)


    Careful, Aetius.

    Here in 2024, "Pistol Packin' Mama" might be interpreted *very* differently by some folks.

    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:22 PM (g0Y4p)

    54 You can also sing Emily Dickinson's poems to "Amazing Grace."

    Anything in iambic pentameter (IIANM) is compatible. Amazing Grace, Gilligan's Island theme, and Rime of the Ancient Mariner are some of the most well known.

    Posted by: Oddbob at May 03, 2024 10:22 PM (/y8xj)

    55 You're not impressed by her proving what a rough 'n' tough Western mama she is?!
    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM (g0Y4p)

    Country life is country life. You don't brag about it. You just live it.

    So no, I'm not impressed in the least. Another pantsuit trying to show she also wears a pair of balls. Wrong party, Honey.
    Posted by: RickZ

    Too bad they belonged to the puppy.

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 10:22 PM (VNX3d)

    56
    Here in 2024, "Pistol Packin' Mama" might be interpreted *very* differently by some folks.
    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:22 PM (g0Y4p)

    https://tinyurl.com/ykmxb53w

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:23 PM (di6C2)

    57 Dateline: North Bend, WA.
    Day Six, of the great Northwest Zebra hunt.
    King County authorities believe they are getting closer.
    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty

    Yesterday the discussion was how long before Mr. Zebra became Cougar food....someone noted zebras can seriously f up lions.

    Posted by: Some Rat at May 03, 2024 10:24 PM (vJiyU)

    58 There was a Hamaster infiltrator-instigated insurrection.

    The perpetrators have been charged at 240v

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 10:25 PM (n/1xr)

    59 Guys, this isn't funny anymore.


    NOTHING.IS.EVER.FUNNY.

    Bonus-"There is no humor in Islam"

    the Ayatollah Khomeini

    Posted by: the unamused feminists at May 03, 2024 10:25 PM (g3rvw)

    60 44 Can you imagine the tails of terror we would hear if the Biden’s dogs could talk? Or if they started their own blog on the White House site?
    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf



    You can find them at a doggie opium den, trying to dull the horror. Very sad.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 10:25 PM (xA5g+)

    61 It slightly irritates me that banjo kid is more naturally fluid through transitions on the banjo than I am.

    That kid and the kid working on the concrete sidewalk are very impressive.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:26 PM (rWGyP)

    62 Here in 2024, "Pistol Packin' Mama" might be interpreted *very* differently by some folks.
    Posted by: Dr. T

    W.C. Fields and Mae West both look at you funny.

    Posted by: When Miklos' grandfather was allowed to laugh at May 03, 2024 10:27 PM (g3rvw)

    63 I am off to bed. I hope y’all received your refund and / or zoo animal. The pet thread should be lit going forward!

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:27 PM (u/mEj)

    64 34 Love the Noem meme. Stupid bint. If you have to do it, shoot it, shovel it and shut up about it -- forever.

    The Too Much Information Generation.
    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 10:13 PM (emlEe)

    That meme is funnier than fuq ...

    Posted by: browndog gives Ms. Noem a wide berth at May 03, 2024 10:27 PM (TTAGa)

    65 Captain Marvel comic: Billy Batson has a valet? Wasn't he, like, a newsboy street urchin or something?

    And where can we find the rest of that story?

    Posted by: mindful webworker - Shazam! at May 03, 2024 10:27 PM (RLsaS)

    66 41 Kid gets to use a screed and a trowel. Luxury! Why, in my day, we used our bare, bleeding hands to pat the concrete into place, and put the final finish on with our tongues!

    Posted by: A Yorkshireman at May 03, 2024 10:15 PM
    ***
    Real concrete?! Luxury! In my day, we spray painted the dirt gray and used the tusk of a live narwhal to smooth it out.

    Posted by: A Different Yorkshireman at May 03, 2024 10:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

    67 >>> 50 25
    Really? Then why is there a giraffe in my front yard?
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 10

    That is because I volunteered to process all the refunds for the time down and we ran out of money.
    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:19 PM (u/mEj)

    Well shit. Can I take *my* refund in the form of a sheep? Maybe two sheeps, since they're smaller than giraffes?

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 03, 2024 10:28 PM (llON8)

    68 Yesterday the discussion was how long before Mr. Zebra became Cougar food....someone noted zebras can seriously f up lions.
    Posted by: Some Rat at May 03, 2024 10:24 PM (vJiyU)


    Too many people assume "herbivore" means "gentle and relatively harmless".

    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:28 PM (g0Y4p)

    69 You can find them at a doggie opium den, trying to dull the horror. Very sad.
    Posted by: Puddleglum

    If they had opposable thumbs they would have blown their brains out years ago.

    Posted by: Some Rat at May 03, 2024 10:29 PM (vJiyU)

    70 The blog went down and I got a pet giraffe. Dass right!

    Wait, they sell giraffe chow at the store, right?

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 10:29 PM (u73oe)

    71

    There was nobody at the blackout blog, either.

    https://acedark.wordpress.com/

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 10:29 PM (63Dwl)

    72 Yesterday the discussion was how long before Mr. Zebra became Cougar food....someone noted zebras can seriously f up lions.

    They'll do a number on a Chevy Tahoe. It's not good for the zebra, though.

    Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 03, 2024 10:29 PM (dZVON)

    73 I don't think ten bucks for an adult onesie with a collar is a good deal/

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (D7oie)

    74 Saw a clever meme of Denethor as Biden

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (n/1xr)

    75 67 Well shit. Can I take *my* refund in the form of a sheep? Maybe two sheeps, since they're smaller than giraffes?
    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 03, 2024 1

    Hmmm…I think I sent you a penguin.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (u/mEj)

    76 Dateline: North Bend, WA.
    Day Six, of the great Northwest Zebra hunt.
    King County authorities believe they are getting closer.
    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty

    Yesterday the discussion was how long before Mr. Zebra became Cougar food....someone noted zebras can seriously f up lions.
    Posted by: Some Rat

    Marlon Perkins: Here we see Jim trying to coax the zebra into a cage. He’s getting closer and, … what! Get away, Jim! That zebra has a rifle! Bang! Whew, that was close! One of the native porters was winged, but another is trying to ride him and take the gun away. The zebra is bucking and … the porter is down by a tranq dart! The zebra is getting away, with his rifle!

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (VNX3d)

    77 wel then, innit?

    g'night my jolly Hordelings O!

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (tQtDb)

    78 Captain Marvel comic: Billy Batson has a valet? Wasn't he, like, a newsboy street urchin or something?

    And where can we find the rest of that story?
    Posted by: mindful webworker - Shazam! at May 03, 2024 10:27 PM (RLsaS)


    You think you're confused? I thought he was a she!

    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (g0Y4p)

    79 Is that the official emergency blog?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (/7KEl)

    80 Yes, Pixy was laughing his ass off at Ace.

    Good to know that some things never change.
    Posted by: Blanco Basura

    Still arguing over the crocs and messenger bags are they?

    Garrett should mediate, but I suspect xe wants IT ALL.

    Posted by: Miklos thinks a time out is in order at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (g3rvw)

    81 Too many people assume "herbivore" means "gentle and relatively harmless".

    Oh, what a cute bison. I'm gonna pet him.

    Posted by: Soon to be extinct at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (CsUN+)

    82 You think you're confused? I thought he was a she!

    Lot of kids have that problem these days when confronted with a mirror.

    Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (dZVON)

    83 Pixy did show up this afternoon in one of the threads saying the server had pooped itself. Not quite the exact wording but close enough.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (xA5g+)

    84 >>> 75
    ==
    Hmmm…I think I sent you a penguin.
    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (u/mEj)

    Phooey.

    Maybe I can trade it to Duncanthrax for something.

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 03, 2024 10:32 PM (llON8)

    85 Hubby was watching Baby Reindeer. Ugh. Sad, gross, terrible - at least the parts I watched.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 10:32 PM (n/1xr)

    86 I expected Banjo Chicken to actually do something.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 10:32 PM (63Dwl)

    87 I don't think ten bucks for an adult onesie with a collar is a good deal/
    Posted by: Kindltot

    Agree

    Posted by: 10 bucks will buy a handle of Valu-Rite at May 03, 2024 10:32 PM (g3rvw)

    88 Oh, what a cute bison. I'm gonna pet him.
    Posted by: Soon to be extinct

    A Fluffy Cow as it were.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 10:33 PM (WXNFJ)

    89 75 67 Well shit. Can I take *my* refund in the form of a sheep? Maybe two sheeps, since they're smaller than giraffes?
    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 03, 2024 1

    Hmmm…I think I sent you a penguin.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM
    ***
    I'll take two narwhals please. Can they live with penguins?

    Posted by: TRex at May 03, 2024 10:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

    90 84 >>> 75
    ==
    Hmmm…I think I sent you a penguin.
    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:30 PM (u/mEj)

    Phooey.

    Maybe I can trade it to Duncanthrax for something.
    Posted by: Helena Handbasket

    Drats. All I got was a dry leaf

    Posted by: Charlie Brown at May 03, 2024 10:34 PM (VNX3d)

    91 Wait, so Captain Marvel, the Girl Power hero from a year or two ago, was massively racist not too long ago?

    Ah. Makes sense now. No wonder they chose that character that no one cared about. Someone knew about that old comic and thought it would be a funny joke to push that specific hero onto the public.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:34 PM (rWGyP)

    92 Btw, that light workout - I get tired just watching it.

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 10:34 PM (n/1xr)

    93 Oh, what a cute bison. I'm gonna pet him.
    Posted by: Soon to be extinct at May 03, 2024 10:31 PM (CsUN+)


    Yeah, I had that thought once too, when I was 12 and our family took a summer vacation out West. Then a herd of them surrounded our car. Survived but kept our distance after that.

    Posted by: Dr. T at May 03, 2024 10:34 PM (g0Y4p)

    94 And where can we find the rest of that story?

    Oh, oops, never mind. Just saw the link.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - Shazam! at May 03, 2024 10:34 PM (RLsaS)

    95 Attention all fairy tale things had me laughing out loud.
    I

    Posted by: Quirky bookworm at May 03, 2024 10:35 PM (rKyZg)

    96 Hmmm…I think I sent you a penguin.
    Posted by: Piper

    Piker

    Ben Had sent me a PONY!

    Sent it back because-

    -NOT PINK

    -NO SPARKLIES

    -POOPED NON-SKITTLES

    Posted by: Miklos was Dissapoint at May 03, 2024 10:35 PM (g3rvw)

    97 when I was seven or eight, my great-aunt needed her sidewalk replaced, and my mom and dad, aunts and uncles and cousins and relations got together to pour her a new one.

    If you want to know how many advanced academic degrees and professional certificates it took to lay a crappy sidewalk, I would have to say: "all of them, apparently"

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 10:36 PM (D7oie)

    98 You know it's a good ONT When you get caught up in the content.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 10:36 PM (W/lyH)

    99 Sent it back because-

    -NOT PINK

    -NO SPARKLIES

    -POOPED NON-SKITTLES
    ===
    ✅ ghey
    ✅ lame

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 10:37 PM (RIvkX)

    100 Also $10 in 1979 would be worth $400 or so dollars today. Probably $500+ since inflation calculators have refused to take the last four years into account.

    For example, did you know $100 in 2021 is the equivalent to $115 today?

    in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2021

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:37 PM (rWGyP)

    101 I expected Banjo Chicken to actually do something.
    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

    *hums "Mr. Bojangles" with banjo accompaniment while checking the Bojangles fried chicken menu*

    Posted by: Miklos is always a bit peckish at May 03, 2024 10:38 PM (g3rvw)

    102 You know it's a good ONT When you get caught up in the content.
    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 10:36 PM (W/lyH)

    ——————-

    Did you get a zoo animal though?

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 10:38 PM (u73oe)

    103 & you can sing Dickens' "Jabberwocky" to the tune of Greensleeves

    & you can sing the words of "O my darling Clementine" to Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".

    try it!


    & now rly g'night!

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 10:39 PM (tQtDb)

    104 I expected Banjo Chicken to actually do something.

    --

    Banjo chicken remained on that boys shoulder for the entire video.

    For a chicken, that truly was something.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:39 PM (rWGyP)

    105 ✅ ghey
    ✅ lame
    Posted by: San Franpsycho

    Posted by: Miklos, so totally busted at May 03, 2024 10:39 PM (g3rvw)

    106 You can also sing Emily Dickinson's poems to "Amazing Grace."
    Posted by: pookysgirl, actually using her Poetry class for once at May 03, 2024 10:06 PM (dtlDP)


    And "The Yellow Rose of Texas"

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 10:40 PM (D7oie)

    107 lol kindltot

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 10:40 PM (tQtDb)

    108 A Fluffy Cow as it were.
    Posted by: Tonypete

    Imagine a perfectly spherical cow

    Posted by: Stacey or Fanni, the choice is YOURS at May 03, 2024 10:41 PM (g3rvw)

    109 Not you, the pony!

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 10:42 PM (RIvkX)

    110 And where can we find the rest of that story?

    Oh, oops, never mind. Just saw the link.


    Well, poop. Every page I open also opens a new tab with what my virusware says is "malvertising." Not worth it.

    The history of how the big red cheese ended up as "Shazam" at DC comics and Marvel acquired the "Captain Marvel" name is convoluted. Much less how Marvel's original "Captain Mar-Vell of the Kree" ended up as Brie Larson.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - Shazamski! at May 03, 2024 10:42 PM (RLsaS)

    111 If you want to know how many advanced academic degrees and professional certificates it took to lay a crappy sidewalk, I would have to say: "all of them, apparently"
    Posted by: Kindltot

    Life Experience accepted!

    Transfer credits from lesser institutions too!

    Posted by: University of Miklos at May 03, 2024 10:43 PM (g3rvw)

    112 Captain Mar-Vell

    --

    Dang, that would've been awesome if the white guy was Captain Marvel and the black guy was Captain Mar-Vell

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:44 PM (rWGyP)

    113 I don't really trust helicopters. I understand airplanes enough, that being my job and all, and I'm very comfortable with air travel. But helicopters seem too contraptiony. All of them, give me a looney toons, Donald Duck wacking himself in the head with a board while bopping about going Hooot-a-hooot-hooot-HONK!-HONK! sounds kind of feeling. I don't feel confident about things.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 10:44 PM (Y6IkP)

    114 A man's love is mighty,
    He'll even buy a nightie,
    For a gal that he thinks is fun,
    But they don't buy pajamas,
    For pistol packin' mamas,
    Oh you can't get a man with a gun!

    "Annie Get Your Gun"
    words & music by Irving Berlin

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 10:44 PM (NLIak)

    115 Sent it back because-

    -NOT PINK

    -NO SPARKLIES

    -POOPED NON-SKITTLES
    Posted by: Miklos was Dissapoint at May 03, 2024 10:35 PM (g3rvw)

    Well, what flavor were they?

    Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 03, 2024 10:45 PM (0eaVi)

    116 I don't think ten bucks for an adult onesie with a collar is a good deal/
    Posted by: Kindltot
    =========================
    Face it: You want one as bad as I do. The picnic tablecloth print is on sale. Also, I can pretty much guarantee those bad-boys are made in the U!S!ofA!
    Does anyone know what site that is? it looks way different than Amazon.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2024 10:45 PM (lPeS+)

    117 NBC is calling the terrorist groupies at UCLA antiwar protesters. Nazi Broadcasting Corp.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * Hinterwäldler at May 03, 2024 10:47 PM (i7KoL)

    118 Addendum:

    But not Captain Mar-Vell in a teasing Democrat "less than" way. Captain Mar-Vell in a cool Rudy Ray Moore / Shaft character kind of way.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:47 PM (rWGyP)

    119
    🏒 DAL @ LSV no score, end 1st

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 10:47 PM (/7KEl)

    120 Give that kid with the banjo a few more years, and he will be absolutely fantastic. And the kid smoothing cement -- he's ready now.

    The RenFaire battle made me a little nervous. Steel, live steel. I know those swords were blunted, but the XO and I played with the SCA for several years. He would be black and blue and moaning in pain after practice, just using big sticks wrapped with duct tape.

    Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at May 03, 2024 10:47 PM (ET1Q8)

    121 I don't really trust helicopters.
    =====================
    Did you know helicopters can't actually fly?




    They're so ugly, the ground naturally repels them.

    Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (lPeS+)

    122 Evenin’, All.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (9yWhg)

    123 Hello, everyone. AoS are the best people. I'd say more but I can't.

    Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (CHHv1)

    124 Auto Rotate is not a kinky sex thing.

    I'm guessing a serious brown stinky smell in that chopper.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (W/lyH)

    125 Well, what flavor were they?
    Posted by: OrangeEnt


    The coprophilia curious come out at nite.

    Posted by: Count Miklos, SCARY KEEDS, really scary at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (g3rvw)

    126 Saw a clever meme of Denethor as Biden
    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion


    Denethor was not evil in the actual book. Just had gone crazy looking into the Seeing Stone and Sauron tormented him because of it.
    The movie made his seem like Nixon.

    Biden is a nasty, evil lying MF. Whichever one is out there at any moment because there are sometimes Biden doubles wearing masks.

    Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (tjZg/)

    127 Oh I should mention that dogs are incredibly wonderful beings, and cats are demons sent to torture us.

    Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 03, 2024 10:49 PM (CHHv1)

    128 I'm guessing a serious brown stinky smell in that chopper.
    Posted by: Diogenes

    You think that is a problem?

    Posted by: Miklos, unfortunate owner of a Hungarian hovercraft at May 03, 2024 10:50 PM (g3rvw)

    129 Gingham rompers for men. I guess wharfside rough-trade rent boys were a thing even in the old days.

    ConInc is always difficult to draw out about exactly what it is they want to conserve. Well, when they close their eyes and imagine the American legacy they want to revive, all they see is that ad.

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 03, 2024 10:51 PM (0FoWg)

    130 island

    iswater


    isobar. Yeah!!!

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 10:51 PM (W/lyH)

    131
    Well, it's Saturday night and I just got paid
    Fool about my money, don't try to save
    My heart say "Go go, have a time"
    'Cause Saturday night and I'm feel fine

    I'm gonna rock it up
    I'm gonna rip it up
    I'm gonna shake it up
    Gonna ball it up
    I'm gonna rock it up
    Have a ball tonight

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 10:52 PM (lCWOD)

    132 GINGHAM STYLE!

    That was the song, right?

    (I'm out, y'all have fun)

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:52 PM (rWGyP)

    133 I thought helicopters flew because they beat the air into submission.

    Posted by: TRex at May 03, 2024 10:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

    134 hey everybody...hey

    Posted by: elly at May 03, 2024 10:55 PM (W0p4y)

    135 130 isogloss!

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 10:55 PM (9yWhg)

    136 >>> Auto Rotate is not a kinky sex thing.
    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (W/lyH)

    Waaaay back in my teenage years I was at a mcdonalds and there was a girl close to my age running the cash/order machine. Anyway, she went to get my drink and when she came back with it she said, "I sorry sir, you'll need to wait while we rotate your nuggets". I gave her a funny look and we both lost it.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 10:56 PM (Y6IkP)

    137 The coprophilia curious come out at nite.
    Posted by: Count Miklos, SCARY KEEDS, really scary at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (g3rvw)

    They might have just been chocolate skittles.

    Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 03, 2024 10:57 PM (0eaVi)

    138 Sean Connery wore a baby blue romper in Goldfinger

    https://tinyurl.com/ymhysac6

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 10:57 PM (/7KEl)

    139 All things considered, the aches and pains congruent with retirement after a long very physically active career have been quite muted (knock wood). With luck, this will continue.

    My ginger, otoh, while not suffering unduly, DOES really feel said after effects much more than I.

    Posted by: irongrampa at May 03, 2024 10:59 PM (hKoQL)

    140 island

    iswater


    isobar. Yeah!!!
    Posted by: Diogenes

    Hungarian-

    Island-sziget

    Water-viz

    You Englishter speakers is funny

    Posted by: Miklos, again suggesting Hungarian as a Sekrit language for the Burning Times at May 03, 2024 10:59 PM (g3rvw)

    141 Sorry I'm late, I was recording an audio version of The Urban Dictionary for my parrot.

    Posted by: tankdemon at May 03, 2024 10:59 PM (F34rQ)

    142 Did the women vs bears controversy get any mileage at the AoSHQ?

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 11:00 PM (lhenN)

    143 Welcome to the #RompLife:

    https://www.romphim.com/

    Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 03, 2024 11:00 PM (0FoWg)

    144 They might have just been chocolate skittles.
    Posted by: OrangeEnt

    *sends FedEx overnight package*

    Posted by: Miklos, who is like Mikey in terms of what he will, but sometimes NO at May 03, 2024 11:01 PM (g3rvw)

    145 is the water going backwards, or does it just look that way?
    https://tinyurl.com/mdr6jrmp

    Posted by: elly at May 03, 2024 11:01 PM (W0p4y)

    146 Thanks weird Dave. Weird as always.,..

    I'll be over here if anybody needs me...

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2024 11:01 PM (l4B/J)

    147 132 GINGHAM STYLE!

    That was the song, right?
    (I'm out, y'all have fun)
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Men listened and cooperated and now you're angrier than ever at May 03, 2024 10:52 PM (rWGyP)

    Gangam Style. One the better one-off cultural phenomenon songs.

    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:02 PM (Unmm2)

    148 Wishing a Most Blessed Sabbath and Holy Pascha to the Orthodox Christians of the Horde.

    Posted by: Biff Wellington IV at May 03, 2024 11:02 PM (hm5mh)

    149 >>Welcome to the #RompLife:
    ---


    that might be the gayest thing ever

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:02 PM (/7KEl)

    150 I'm guessing a serious brown stinky smell in that chopper.
    Posted by: Diogenes

    First helicopter ride was into my first fire working for the Forest Service. Pilot was a Vietnam vet. Twenty minutes of tree top level flying like Charlie was shooting at him. Crew chief said he did that every time he had rookies on board. I'm not a fan.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 03, 2024 11:04 PM (i7KoL)

    151 Waaaay back in my teenage years I was at a mcdonalds and there was a girl close to my age running the cash/order machine. Anyway, she went to get my drink and when she came back with it she said, "I sorry sir, you'll need to wait while we rotate your nuggets". I gave her a funny look and we both lost it.
    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 10:56 PM (Y6IkP)


    Reminds me...
    Some years ago I was looking for a gift for my dad after he moved into his new home. I was at a store that had house stuff and saw a collection of door knockers.
    The sales girl asked if she could help me.
    (I know...you can see it coming but this is a true story)
    I looked at her and said I'd like to look over her knockers.
    She stood there staring at me, then burst out laughing.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 11:04 PM (W/lyH)

    152 I'll be over here if anybody needs me...
    Posted by: Muldoon

    CALLING DR. FINE, DR. MULDOON, DR. HOWARD

    Posted by: Miklos, neglected sixth Stooge at May 03, 2024 11:04 PM (g3rvw)

    153 >Sean Connery wore a baby blue romper in Goldfinger

    That is something Ian Fleming would wear. People must have found him to be unmanly, but have to revise upward after talking for a while.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 11:05 PM (lhenN)

    154 rentboys have always been a thing ... I remember Mrs Eez chatting with one pre-dawn as we were picking up another couple over by north pier terminal, (back 4 or 5 decades ago); he remarked to her that I was cute; what I found memorable about it all was the little butterfly knife that he had,( about half the size of the knives I was carrying); he could open & close that little thing while walking it from finger to finger across his hand, back&forth left&right ... a useful skill I betcha in the rentboy trade to keep everything ... what? ... not too weird/kinky?

    he bummed a Kool from me as he departed ... lol

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 11:05 PM (tQtDb)

    155 146 *tries to think of possible limerick using the word “dilligrout”*

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 11:06 PM (9yWhg)

    156 >>> You think that is a problem?
    Posted by: Miklos, unfortunate owner of a Hungarian hovercraft at May 03, 2024 10:50 PM (g3rvw)


    Well next time buy a designer bouquet of our ocean breeze scented eels. Or are you in the mood for woodsy morays? Maybe try our delectable citrus congers?

    Posted by: banana Dream's EEL AROMA OUTLET at May 03, 2024 11:07 PM (Y6IkP)

    157 Are there absolute mental and psychological differences between women and men?

    Further research is clearly required.

    And I'm just the guy to do it.

    Posted by: Miklos, noting how men and women regard the Three Stooges at May 03, 2024 11:07 PM (g3rvw)

    158 Waaaay back in my teenage years I was at a mcdonalds and there was a girl close to my age running the cash/order machine. Anyway, she went to get my drink and when she came back with it she said, "I sorry sir, you'll need to wait while we rotate your nuggets". I gave her a funny look and we both lost it.
    Posted by: banana Dream

    After a HS play we all went to an ice cream parlor and while ordering a sundae, the lass behind the counter asked if I wanted my nuts crushed.

    "No thank you."

    Hilarity ensued.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 11:08 PM (WXNFJ)

    159 & now rly g'night

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 11:08 PM (tQtDb)

    160 lol

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 11:09 PM (tQtDb)

    161 but have to revise upward after talking for a while.
    Posted by: BourbonChicken

    Revise? Like, Up talking?

    Posted by: Miklos, noting noting that uptalk is the Valley Girl of the 21st century at May 03, 2024 11:10 PM (g3rvw)

    162 Good evening Muldoon.

    I hope You and the Mrs are well. Are you at your cabin in the mountains?

    I can see the Olympic Mountain range from here. Not as much snow as usual for this time of year. Might be a problem if fire season is long. But it's beautiful to see them across the water. I need to get out there and do some hiking this summer.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 11:10 PM (1wZKM)

    163 IG, good to see ya.

    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:10 PM (Unmm2)

    164 *sends FedEx overnight package*
    Posted by: Miklos, who is like Mikey in terms of what he will, but sometimes NO at May 03, 2024 11:01 PM (g3rvw)

    Darn porch pirate took it!

    Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 03, 2024 11:11 PM (0eaVi)

    165 Went for post-surgical checkup on Thursday. The doc said the wounds had sort-of stalled out healing, so he took out what looked like thin fireplace matches and swabbed the wounds. Cauterizing them. Yeah, slapped hot iron on them, chemically. Modern science.

    Hate to leave this lively Friday night chatfest, but have to get my beauty rest. Got nothing scheduled for tomorrow, save the prayer and coffee thread and the pet thread. Would sleep late, but unfortunately, Daisy Doggo will rouse me out of bed at 6:30 on the dot, as she does every day. Did I say unfortunately? I meant happily. We like our early-morning jaunt. Yes we do!

    https://youtu.be/GOHofU8CQYs

    g'night y'all

    💤

    Posted by: mindful webworker - hittin' the hay at May 03, 2024 11:11 PM (RLsaS)

    166 After a HS play we all went to an ice cream parlor and while ordering a sundae, the lass behind the counter asked if I wanted my nuts crushed.

    "No thank you."

    Hilarity ensued.
    Posted by: Tonypete

    Very wise for one so young.

    Posted by: Blind Monk Miklos of Shaolin at May 03, 2024 11:11 PM (g3rvw)

    167 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 11:12 PM (NLIak)

    168 I could easily do the light workout but I'm too tired this evening. Maybe tomorrow.

    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 03, 2024 11:12 PM (mH6SG)

    169 Prayers for continued healing MWW.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 03, 2024 11:14 PM (i7KoL)

    170 only been in a helichopper once - local airshow, they were giving 15 minute rides in a Huey, paid for me and my grandson to have a flight. Damn! That has to be like the street-raw Harley of helicopters - you get strapped in, and what I remember most is the noise level! Even shouting you could not be heard by the person sitting next to you - and then when it took a turn, you looked out the open side door straight down at the ground and trees beneath you, because they laid it on it's side to make a big sweeping turn. That was a hell of a ride!

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2024 11:14 PM (S6gqv)

    171 167 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?
    Posted by: mnw

    Turn off JavaScript and the ads disappear.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 11:15 PM (1wZKM)

    172 I hope You and the Mrs are well. Are you at your cabin in the mountains?

    ********

    We are indeed. Beautiful scenery, not many people around. We celebrate Missus M's birthday here every year. Yesterday was homemade sourdough pizza dough pizza and strawbe. Surprised heer with a blast Happy birthday trxt message at a set time yesterday, multitude of friends and family blew up her phone. great fun.

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2024 11:15 PM (l4B/J)

    173 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?
    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 11:12 PM (NLIak)


    I use Brave. So far it avoids most ads, though it also blocks certain uploads, so I use a different browser to do those.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 11:16 PM (D7oie)

    174 Well next time buy a designer bouquet of our ocean breeze scented eels. Or are you in the mood for woodsy morays? Maybe try our delectable citrus congers?
    Posted by: banana Dream's EEL AROMA OUTLET

    Thank you, but I have some similar products on order from Gwynneth Paltrow.

    Posted by: Miklos only ordered the Travel Sixe at May 03, 2024 11:16 PM (g3rvw)

    175 I use brave. Harv is the only one which gets through.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 11:17 PM (di6C2)

    176 173 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?
    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 11:12 PM (NLIak)

    yeah, that's a relatively new one, I hate it.

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM (S6gqv)

    177 Surprised heer with a blast Happy birthday trxt message at a set time yesterday, multitude of friends and family blew up her phone. great fun.
    Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2024 11:15 PM (l4B/J)


    Well played!

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM (W/lyH)

    178 WASHINGTON — President Biden honored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Olympic champion swimmer Katie Ledecky and former Vice President Al Gore with the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, along with 16 other American luminaries.

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM (/7KEl)

    179 >>> First helicopter ride was into my first fire working for the Forest Service. Pilot was a Vietnam vet. Twenty minutes of tree top level flying like Charlie was shooting at him. Crew chief said he did that every time he had rookies on board. I'm not a fan.
    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 03, 2024 11:04 PM (i7KoL)


    It unnecessarily fatigues the aircraft. NOE flying is about the worst thing you can do if you want to extend the life of your aircraft. And some aircraft used in the forestry service already have years behind them. Not worth it for a gag. It is hard to convince people of this. It's also hard to convince them that getting up in altitude to cruise for even for short sorties reduces turbulence gust intensity also helping to extend structure life. Even accounting for greater pressurization cycles.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 11:20 PM (Y6IkP)

    180 Saw on X tonight - there's a pro-Hamas demonstration totally disrupting John Hopkins in Baltimore, and the hospital wants it to end - except Gangsta Mayor has refused to allow any police to respond, and in fact is cheering on the protestors himself.

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2024 11:21 PM (S6gqv)

    181 Ed Dutton (similar voice and cadence to Fleming) is casting-central for a stuffy British academic. He is 99% that. He mentioned off-hand that he was playing Iron Maiden on his electric guitar, and his dog took this to be close enough to howling, and joined in. Deciding that "this guy isn't so bad after all" is what meeting Fleming would be like.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 11:23 PM (lhenN)

    182 123 Hello, everyone. AoS are the best people. I'd say more but I can't.
    Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 03, 2024 10:48 PM (CHHv1)

    Don't worry, your secret is safe with us.

    Posted by: tankdemon at May 03, 2024 11:24 PM (F34rQ)

    183 >>>WASHINGTON — President Biden honored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Olympic champion swimmer Katie Ledecky and former Vice President Al Gore with the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, along with 16 other American luminaries.
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM (/7KEl)

    I'm sure that was some real consolation for Al Gore for coming so close but not actually being president. Kind of like Hillary.

    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:25 PM (Unmm2)

    184 180 Saw on X tonight - there's a pro-Hamas demonstration totally disrupting John Hopkins in Baltimore, and the hospital wants it to end - except Gangsta Mayor has refused to allow any police to respond, and in fact is cheering on the protestors himself.
    Posted by: Tom Servo



    I'm sure there won't be any unintentional consequences stemming from this. /s

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 11:27 PM (xA5g+)

    185 Good night all!

    Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2024 11:27 PM (l4B/J)

    186 180 Saw on X tonight - there's a pro-Hamas demonstration totally disrupting John Hopkins in Baltimore, and the hospital wants it to end - except Gangsta Mayor has refused to allow any police to respond, and in fact is cheering on the protestors himself.
    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2024 11:21 PM (S6gqv)

    At least the protestors dont have far to go when they get their asses run over by somebody needing to get to the hospital asap

    Posted by: a dude in MI at May 03, 2024 11:27 PM (+I6Y/)

    187 173 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?
    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 11:12 PM (NLIak)

    When I switched from Chrome to Brave it stopped. For this very reason I only access Ace through Brave.

    Posted by: Sharon W at May 03, 2024 11:27 PM (Z41Px)

    188 Biden awards the Medal of Freedom to Nancy Pelosi

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:29 PM (/7KEl)

    189 WASHINGTON — President Biden honored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Olympic champion swimmer Katie Ledecky and former Vice President Al Gore with the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, along with 16 other American luminaries.
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM (/7KEl)


    Well, it is not like Biden could make Albert Gore a Senator AGAiN. Caligula only made Incitatus a Senator once after all.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 11:29 PM (D7oie)

    190 I'm sure that was some real consolation for Al Gore for coming so close but not actually being president. Kind of like Hillary.
    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:25 PM (Unmm2)


    Well, after the Supreme Court decision, Gore went and grew a beard, wrote a book, had a movie made from it and had his chakra read during a "massage". I don't think Hillary grew a beard but who knows?

    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 11:30 PM (emlEe)

    191 The full list of Friday's recipients:
    Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg The Rev. Gregory Boyle Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-SC) Former North Carolina Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole Phil Donahue Former Vice President Al Gore Clarence Jones Former Secretary of State John Kerry Katie Ledecky Opal Lee Ellen Ochoa Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) Jane Rigby Teresa Romero Judy Shepard Michelle Yeoh

    Posthumous recipients:
    Medgar Wiley Evers Former New Jersey Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg Jim Thorpe

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:31 PM (/7KEl)

    192 I'm sure that was some real consolation for Al Gore for coming so close but not actually being president. Kind of like Hillary.
    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:25 PM (Unmm2)


    Fu*k him!
    His consolation prize was millions promoting the global warming bullshit.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 11:31 PM (W/lyH)

    193 I don't think Hillary grew a beard but who knows?
    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 11:30 PM (emlEe)



    she has had one for years.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 11:32 PM (D7oie)

    194 These goalies are no fun- they won't let anybody score


    0-0 2nd

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:32 PM (/7KEl)

    195 185 Goodnight, Muldoon.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 11:33 PM (9yWhg)

    196 G'night Muldoon.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 11:34 PM (W/lyH)

    197 Oh, yeah, and Gore got divorced, too. Definitely not a 'coattail' Hillary move. It's not that's she riding on Blow Job Billy's presidential coattails, she's riding on his personality coattails as she has none. Neither does Gore, for that matter. A matched pair of preachy bookends.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 03, 2024 11:34 PM (emlEe)

    198 187 173 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?
    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 11:12 PM (NLIak)

    When I switched from Chrome to Brave it stopped. For this very reason I only access Ace through Brave.
    Posted by: Sharon W at May 03, 2024 11:27 PM (Z41Px)

    Using Duck duck go, I wouldn't see the adds, but the browser seemed to act like they were there and covering the "Post" button, preventing me from commenting. On Chrome, I have to close the ads to expose the "Post" button, but at least they disappear for real when you mash the X.

    Posted by: tankdemon at May 03, 2024 11:35 PM (F34rQ)

    199 Lets all text Muldoon at 4:36 AM!

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 11:36 PM (W/lyH)

    200 This is crazy game tonight, chances galore at both ends …

    Posted by: browndog is no longer a Knight Who Says Ni at May 03, 2024 11:36 PM (TTAGa)

    201 175 I use brave. Harv is the only one which gets through.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 11:17 PM


    That is because Harv is a brave man!

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 11:37 PM (HlyYF)

    202 I see those ads but close them pretty quickly. Didn't really check to see what they were.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 11:38 PM (xA5g+)

    203 WASHINGTON — President Biden honored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Olympic champion swimmer Katie Ledecky and former Vice President Al Gore with the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, along with 16 other American luminaries.
    Posted by: Don Black

    I on dat list?

    Posted by: St. George Floyd at May 03, 2024 11:38 PM (g3rvw)

    204 Kerry and Pelosi are two of the most odious greedheads & politicians this country has ever vomited forth, and now they get Presidential Medals Of Freedom

    That decoration is worthless

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:40 PM (/7KEl)

    205 Lets all text Muldoon at 4:36 AM!
    Posted by: Diogenes

    Umm

    Posted by: Miklos would actually do that on the Tech thread at May 03, 2024 11:40 PM (g3rvw)

    206 178 WASHINGTON — President Biden honored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Olympic champion swimmer Katie Ledecky and former Vice President Al Gore with the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, along with 16 other American luminaries.

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM


    I would have put Gore's medal on some floating ice in the Arctic Ocean and told him that if he can swim to the location of the medal he can keep it.

    Otherwise, no medal for your lying, huckster, anti-scientific a$$.

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 11:40 PM (HlyYF)

    207 197 Oh, yeah, and Gore got divorced, too. Definitely not a 'coattail' Hillary move. It's not that's she riding on Blow Job Billy's presidential coattails, she's riding on his personality coattails as she has none. Neither does Gore, for that matter. A matched pair of preachy bookends.
    Posted by: RickZ



    Tipper could never release his 'chakra' like a younger gal could. Funny how that works.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 11:40 PM (xA5g+)

    208 Those adult leisure suit onesies are smooth.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 03, 2024 11:41 PM (R4t5M)

    209 Oh, yeah, and Gore got divorced, too.
    --------
    Curiously, Tipper developed a drinking problem.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 11:42 PM (XeU6L)

    210 I see those ads but close them pretty quickly. Didn't really check to see what they were.
    Posted by: Puddleglum

    We are having items which are needful for you!

    Posted by: Miklos from Qijangxao Light Industry Company Ltd. -only Best Qaulities! at May 03, 2024 11:42 PM (g3rvw)

    211 Day Six, of the great Northwest Zebra hunt.
    King County authorities believe they are getting closer.
    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 03, 2024 10:17 PM (KCc/j)



    But it still goes un-spotted.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2024 11:42 PM (8zz6B)

    212 Carnival was my helicopter experiance. It was small, looked like a dragon fly from the front and vibrate. It was all canopy and the canopy parts were held together with little strips of metal. It was all loose, each pane shook on the other and the whole ship had its own vibration.

    I was accustomed to loud machinery, cars, boats; but everything vibrating apart, in mid air. sheee

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 11:43 PM (lCWOD)

    213 184 180 Saw on X tonight - there's a pro-Hamas demonstration totally disrupting John Hopkins in Baltimore, and the hospital wants it to end - except Gangsta Mayor has refused to allow any police to respond, and in fact is cheering on the protestors himself.

    Posted by: Tom Servo


    I'm sure there won't be any unintentional consequences stemming from this. /s

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 11:27 PM


    My father made many, many trips to the ER in the last two years of his life.

    If he was dying in my arms, waiting for access, I am pretty close to be giving the Nazis a whiff of the grape!

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 11:43 PM (HlyYF)

    214 I still feel good that Gore, Kerry and Hillary weren't pres. Those all fucked with the left. I really didn't lose sleep over Dole, Romney and McCain.

    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:45 PM (Unmm2)

    215 Those adult leisure suit onesies are smooth.
    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner

    Triple knit recycled polyester, baby.

    Posted by: the Triple knit recycled polyester Manufacturer's Association at May 03, 2024 11:45 PM (g3rvw)

    216 Eff Baltimore.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 11:45 PM (9yWhg)

    217 Tipper could never release his 'chakra' like a younger gal could. Funny how that works.
    Posted by: Puddleglum
    ---------------------------

    I think Tipper was the normal one of the group.
    When she caught him slipping around that was it.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 11:45 PM (lCWOD)

    218 disrupting John Hopkins in Baltimore, and the hospital wants it to end - except Gangsta Mayor has refused to allow any police to respond, and in fact is cheering on the protestors himself.

    Posted by: Tom Servo

    "room to destroy"

    -Mayor of Bawlimer

    Posted by: Miklos so recalls at May 03, 2024 11:46 PM (g3rvw)

    219 Maryland to rename invasive Snakehead fish in hopes of getting more people to eat it

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:48 PM (/7KEl)

    220 National Park Service gives green light for RFK Stadium demolition

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:50 PM (/7KEl)

    221 Hot L Baltimore

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 11:50 PM (63Dwl)

    222 Maryland to rename invasive Snakehead fish in hopes of getting more people to eat it
    Posted by: Don Black
    -------
    *?*

    To what? 'Snakebutt'?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 11:50 PM (XeU6L)

    223 Who do I send pet thread pics to? I got a great timely one.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 11:51 PM (Y6IkP)

    224 >>>Curiously, Tipper developed a drinking problem.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 11:42 PM (XeU6L)

    It isn't really fair get into the family lives of the candidates.

    Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at May 03, 2024 11:51 PM (Unmm2)

    225 I thought they would have demo'd RFK may years ago.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 03, 2024 11:52 PM (R4t5M)

    226 Also-

    On the ER topic

    I have taken my 85 year old Old Mama to the ER on many occaisions.

    She waits, because EMTALA says treatment, money or none, OK.

    The infuriating part is that the ER is full of people who are clearly not local (I can speak Spanish if I want to) and so-

    Americans who pay, wait.

    "Newcomers" who have never paid and never will, hey, first come, first served.

    Americans both wait, and pay.

    This, in part, explains Trump.

    Posted by: Miklos at May 03, 2024 11:52 PM (g3rvw)

    227 >To what? 'Snakebutt'?


    henceforth, this grotesque fish will be known as the 'Chesapeake Channa'

    doesn't that sound delicious?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:53 PM (/7KEl)

    228 many years ago.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 03, 2024 11:53 PM (R4t5M)

    229 Day Six, of the great Northwest Zebra hunt.
    King County authorities believe they are getting closer.
    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 03, 2024 10:17 PM (KCc/j)



    But it still goes un-spotted.
    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

    No cause for arrest.

    The zebra always crosses the street where the stripes are.

    Always

    Posted by: Miklos not from the RCMP at May 03, 2024 11:55 PM (g3rvw)

    230 >> I thought they would have demo'd RFK may years ago.

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


    article says the stadium hasn't been used since 2019
    end of an era
    team renamed, moved away, stadium to be torn down
    the Washington 'Commanders' play home games in MD, and team facilities are in VA
    f*** 'em

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:55 PM (/7KEl)

    231 227 >To what? 'Snakebutt'?


    henceforth, this grotesque fish will be known as the 'Chesapeake Channa'

    doesn't that sound delicious?

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:53 PM (/7KEl)

    Chana is chickpea, as in Chana Masala.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 03, 2024 11:56 PM (ynpvh)

    232 True history:

    If Kamala's face looked the same as a snakehead's, she never would have been VP.

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 11:56 PM (HlyYF)

    233 banana Dream

    I'm remembering the chopper as a Huey, so chances are it was a military surplus. Flew with him a couple more times. Uneventful except one fire flyover got a little bumpy. Guy survived the Nam so he probably had a bit of attitude regarding his mortality.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 03, 2024 11:56 PM (i7KoL)

    234 229 Day Six, of the great Northwest Zebra hunt.
    King County authorities believe they are getting closer.
    Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at May 03, 2024 10:17 PM (KCc/j)



    But it still goes un-spotted.
    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

    No cause for arrest.

    The zebra always crosses the street where the stripes are.

    Always

    Posted by: Miklos not from the RCMP at May 03, 2024 11:55 PM (g3rvw)

    And keep setting off barcode scanner.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 03, 2024 11:57 PM (ynpvh)

    235 Goodnight, All.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 11:57 PM (9yWhg)

    236 saw Senators and Redskins games there many times
    even went to the NFC title game when the Skins beat the 49ers

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:58 PM (/7KEl)

    237 To what? 'Snakebutt'?
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,

    FACT CHECK

    Mickey Spillane, despite online disinformation, did not write a novel titled "Snakebutt".

    Maybe should have, but did not.

    Posted by: Miklos, clearing that up for everybody at May 03, 2024 11:58 PM (g3rvw)

    238 148 Wishing a Most Blessed Sabbath and Holy Pascha to the Orthodox Christians of the Horde.
    Posted by: Biff Wellington IV at May 03, 2024 11:02 PM (hm5mh)

    ----------

    Just don't go all iconoclastic on our ass.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 03, 2024 11:58 PM (bo7UB)

    239 It isn't really fair get into the family lives of the candidates.
    Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at May 03, 2024 11:51 PM (Unmm2)


    I have a paper from 1965 that was used as a drawer liner that has an article about how Luci Johnson wanted the press to leave her alone.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2024 12:00 AM (D7oie)

    240 So, Maryland wants us to eat Zee bugz and Zee Snakefishez.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 12:00 AM (ynpvh)

    241 Mark Hamill is a dick.

    That is all.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:00 AM (bo7UB)

    242 238 148 Wishing a Most Blessed Sabbath and Holy Pascha to the Orthodox Christians of the Horde.
    Posted by: Biff Wellington IV at May 03, 2024 11:02 PM (hm5mh)

    ----------

    Just don't go all iconoclastic on our ass.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 03, 2024 11:58 PM (bo7UB)

    well, I don't want any idol time on my hands...

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 12:02 AM (ynpvh)

    243 Curiously, Tipper developed a drinking problem.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 11:42 PM (XeU6L)

    Well, someone should buy her a drink, then.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 12:02 AM (8zz6B)

    244 241 Mark Hamill is a dick.

    That is all.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:00 AM (bo7UB)

    He shoulda stuck with ice skating, like his sister, Dorothy.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 04, 2024 12:03 AM (ynpvh)

    245 Milkos, I'm some would tell you you're account is anecdotal, and possibly if not probably tinged with with bias or privilege. You just don't people who don't look like you the same access to the services you feel entitled to.

    Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at May 04, 2024 12:04 AM (Unmm2)

    246 >He shoulda stuck with ice skating, like his sister, Dorothy.

    Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)




    man was she hot

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:04 AM (/7KEl)

    247 I just called Darleen "Snakebutt" when she came on shift at the Waffle House.

    I think she liked it, find out in about four hours.

    Posted by: Miklos may have some 'splainin' to do at May 04, 2024 12:05 AM (g3rvw)

    248 He shoulda stuck with ice skating, like his sister, Dorothy.

    Posted by: jim

    I read that as "struck"

    Posted by: Tonya Harding at May 04, 2024 12:07 AM (g3rvw)

    249 OK I see the address on the pet thread. I shoulda looked there first.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2024 12:07 AM (Y6IkP)

    250 I think Tipper was the normal one of the group.
    When she caught him slipping around that was it.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 11:45 PM (lCWOD)


    Except for her trying to put warning labels on albums. I remember Dee Snyder, from 'Twisted Sister', testified against that kind of artistic censorship. Others testified, too, I just don't remember any of their names.

    No Democrat is worth a shit. Not one.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 12:08 AM (emlEe)

    251 man was she hot
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:04 AM (/7KEl)

    -----------

    To her credit, she was the Hamill who didn't appear in Corvette Summer.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:08 AM (bo7UB)

    252 man was she hot
    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:04 AM (/7KEl)

    Hot, and accessible, and only a little cray-cray.

    Posted by: Tonya Harding at May 04, 2024 12:08 AM (8zz6B)

    253 Milkos, I'm some would tell you you're account is anecdotal, and possibly if not probably tinged with with bias or privilege. You just don't people who don't look like you the same access to the services you feel entitled to.
    Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at May 04, 2024 12:04 AM (Unmm2)

    Ummm

    Posted by: Miklos likes your cool hash at May 04, 2024 12:09 AM (g3rvw)

    254 Seen a soccer game at RFK Stadium. Watching those Redskins teams of the 80s at RFK must have been a blast. Site line wise, seemed to be a pretty good stadium. It's a National Landmark, I believe and on Federal Land, which is most of DC. That's why it has taken so long to take it down. Many many many many layers of bureaucracy. Plus, corruption. And bureaucracy.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 12:10 AM (aKh6S)

    255 222 Maryland to rename invasive Snakehead fish in hopes of getting more people to eat it
    Posted by: Don Black


    Pisces Carvilleanus.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 12:10 AM (PiwSw)

    256 >No Democrat is worth a shit. Not one.
    ---

    but they are racking up those Presidential Medals Of Freedom!

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:10 AM (/7KEl)

    257 Giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Pelosi is like giving the Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 12:13 AM (PiwSw)

    258 Van Andel of Amway fame choppers out to the lake house..always thought he should get a Huey...you know when to get the coffee going

    Posted by: a dude in MI at May 04, 2024 12:14 AM (+I6Y/)

    259 To her credit, she was the Hamill who didn't appear in Corvette Summer.
    Posted by: Cicero

    Neither did I, so we have something in common.

    Posted by: Miklos. working a pickup line suitable for that era at May 04, 2024 12:14 AM (g3rvw)

    260 >Watching those Redskins teams of the 80s at RFK must have been a blast. Site line wise, seemed to be a pretty good stadium.
    ---


    well, it was a baseball stadium where they also played football- early season Redskins games, part of the field was on the dirt infield for baseball

    when the Senators left for Texas, they finally got a nice natural turf field for football

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:15 AM (/7KEl)

    261 Maryland to rename invasive Snakehead fish in hopes of getting more people to eat it
    Posted by: Don Black
    -------
    *?*

    To what? 'Snakebutt'?
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 11:50 PM (XeU6L)


    In Mur'lan'? Snakecakes. Fry breaded mixed seafood anything, call it a cake, and it will sell. Even better if you have a sliced soft roll on which to place it.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 12:15 AM (emlEe)

    262 Giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Pelosi is like giving the Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes

    *last...gasping...laugh*

    Posted by: Jimmah Carter at May 04, 2024 12:16 AM (g3rvw)

    263 Wishing a Most Blessed Sabbath and Holy Pascha to the Orthodox Christians of the Horde.

    May their beards remain well-oiled and fragrant.

    Posted by: Beard Balm of the Saints at May 04, 2024 12:16 AM (dHfdx)

    264 VEGAS 1 DAL 0 3RD

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:17 AM (/7KEl)

    265 Americans both wait, and pay.

    This, in part, explains Trump.
    Posted by: Miklos

    My mother began her RN career in the ER in 1954. She stayed there until 1984 when she took a position teaching trauma nursing at the hospital 's nursing school. One of the few times anything negative came out of her mouth was her statement that she had become tired of being a social worker. She commented once about growing up poor. Dirt poor during the thirties but they always worked hard and never took a handout. She didn't see the poor who started flooding the ERs in the same light. She was a staunch Goldwater Republican while dad was an FDR Democrat. Political discussions in our family were rare. She would have loved Trump.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 04, 2024 12:17 AM (i7KoL)

    266 Would like to go back to a day when women were lovely and endearing rather than hot.

    Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at May 04, 2024 12:19 AM (Unmm2)

    267 263 Wishing a Most Blessed Sabbath and Holy Pascha to the Orthodox Christians of the Horde.

    May their beards remain well-oiled and fragrant.
    Posted by: Beard Balm of the Saints at May 04, 2024 12:16 AM (dHfdx)

    ----------

    Hope the censers don't see this comment.

    Censers. Get it?

    Yeah.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:19 AM (bo7UB)

    268
    Hot

    adj

    synonyms: lovely, endearing

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:23 AM (/7KEl)

    269 Except for her trying to put warning labels on albums. I remember Dee Snyder, from 'Twisted Sister', testified against that kind of artistic censorship. Others testified, too, I just don't remember any of their names.

    No Democrat is worth a shit. Not one.
    Posted by: RickZ
    -------------------------

    There's a lot of music that should be restricted to those over 21 years of age.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:23 AM (lCWOD)

    270 Hope the censers don't see this comment.

    Censers. Get it?

    Yeah.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:19 AM (bo7UB)


    Swing and a miss?

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 12:24 AM (PiwSw)

    271 270 Hope the censers don't see this comment.

    Censers. Get it?

    Yeah.
    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:19 AM (bo7UB)

    Swing and a miss?
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 04, 2024 12:24 AM (PiwSw)


    OK, that was a thurible pun.

    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, OK, I had to look that one up at May 04, 2024 12:26 AM (PiwSw)

    272 I traveled from Norfolk to D.C., staying with extended 'family', to see NASL's 1980 Soccer Bowl between the NY Cosmos and the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers. Cosmos won 3-Nil. I have only ever bought one athlete's poster and it was Franz Beckenbauer. He was wearing a Cosmos kit, not Bayern's nor the German national team's uniform. So I got to see him play in RFK Stadium in the Cosmos strip. That was cool. Amazing player.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 12:26 AM (emlEe)

    273 Mark Hamill is just ticked because "Corvette Summer" didn't lead to 40 some years of sequels

    Posted by: azjaeger at May 04, 2024 12:28 AM (3/XaG)

    274 Mark Hamill is just ticked because "Corvette Summer" didn't lead to 40 some years of sequels

    The only reason it didn't happen is that the movie starred Mark Hamill.

    Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2024 12:32 AM (dZVON)

    275 There's a lot of music that should be restricted to those over 21 years of age.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:23 AM (lCWOD)


    They censored Elvis from the waste down on tv. Who sets the line? I don't want August Rodan's statuary banned because of its nudity. That's why I'm not a fan of this new Holocaust law. To me, it's a matter of free speech, even crap I don't like. Government censors that, I can be next.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 12:33 AM (emlEe)

    276 83 >>>WASHINGTON — President Biden honored former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, Olympic champion swimmer Katie Ledecky and former Vice President Al Gore with the Presidential Medal of Freedom Friday, along with 16 other American luminaries.
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 11:18 PM (/7KEl)

    I'm sure that was some real consolation for Al Gore for coming so close but not actually being president. Kind of like Hillary.
    Posted by: hart at May 03, 2024 11:25 PM (Unmm2)

    Contender for comment of the week.

    Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at May 04, 2024 12:33 AM (hKmDN)

    277 Mark Hamill is just ticked because "Corvette Summer" didn't lead to 40 some years of sequels
    Posted by: azjaeger

    Forty. Summer, Corvette.

    Beau was born in the back seat of that Corvette, emergency C-class eight cylinder birth. Right where I got it on in the back seat with my wife...Morgan Fairchild.

    Posted by: Excerpts from "Scranton Joe, Fat", a memoir at May 04, 2024 12:34 AM (g3rvw)

    278 First helicopter flight? CH-46 Flying off the USS Iwo Jima in early 83... to Beirut to fix some electronics.

    Not just a job.... a fucking adventure.

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2024 12:36 AM (xaFKb)

    279 I wouldn't begin to compare Rodin to the the obscene and suggestive lyrics that are passed of as music today.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 04, 2024 12:37 AM (lCWOD)

    280 They censored Elvis from the waste down on tv. Who sets the line? I don't want August Rodan's statuary banned because of its nudity. That's why I'm not a fan of this new Holocaust law. To me, it's a matter of free speech, even crap I don't like. Government censors that, I can be next.
    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 12:33 AM (emlEe)

    Slippery slope of 'good intentions'. Congress shall make no law... but... this one?

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2024 12:38 AM (xaFKb)

    281 LSV 2 DAL 0 final

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:39 AM (/7KEl)

    282 Like Gojira, Rodan is a dark force of nature thag must be contained.

    Posted by: Censor the Kaiju at May 04, 2024 12:40 AM (dHfdx)

    283 Evening.

    I'm up a bit late. Watched the original Mothra movie from '61 and then had to finish packing.

    Mothra was freakin' great. Had never seen it before. Looked fantastic on bluray. Pretty decent story. Ended well. I'd totally bang the two foot tall midget twins. Interesting in that the city what gets torn up at the end is a sort of NYC analogue but with palm trees.

    Thoroughly enjoyed it.

    Oh, and I've seen the movie that the ONT is titled after. I think I saw it in high school, but I've seen it. Good jarb, WeirdDave. Good jarb.

    Night.

    Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2024 12:41 AM (1Yy3c)

    284 57 Yesterday the discussion was how long before Mr. Zebra became Cougar food....

    ---

    Horny Helen Mirren has entered the chat...

    Posted by: As not seen on TV at May 04, 2024 12:41 AM (ltGxn)

    285 Mark Hamill is a dick.

    That is all.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 12:00 AM (bo7UB)

    He shoulda stuck with ice skating, like his sister, Dorothy.

    Fun fact: Mark Hamill only got the role of Luke Skywalker when his roommate and fellow struggling actor Robert Englund, showed him the script that his agent had given him and said "This sounds like a part for you."

    In other words, Hamill became Luke because Freddy Krueger passed on the script.
    Also, Lucas's people apparently thought Freddy Krueger was the look they were going for.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 12:42 AM (u/Zei)

    286 Hillary and Gore: both of them, former Next Presidents

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:42 AM (/7KEl)

    287 Like Gojira, Rodan is a dark force of nature thag must be contained.
    Posted by: Censor the Kaiju

    Come on.

    Everybody likes Godzilla.

    Posted by: Miklos, trying to sella Baby Godzilla film concept at May 04, 2024 12:44 AM (g3rvw)

    288 https://youtu.be/g6za7fdFRpo?si=s-gDazVIkj6b4UjH

    Phil Hartman was hilarious as a drunken (well, the true) Teddy Kennedy in this.

    Miklos, you always tell some amazing stories, my solo brush with a celebrity was with Mike Dukakis and Kitty on my honeymoon back in April of '83.

    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 12:44 AM (Sgq8y)

    289 Rick, wondering If you're familiar with the Sting from the early eighties. Lol soccer was going to be a thing then. Karl
    -Heinz Granitza.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 12:45 AM (Unmm2)

    290 Hillary and Gore: both of them, former Next Presidents
    Posted by: Don Black

    The famous phrase of many Ivory League graduates-

    "great potential, all behind them"

    Posted by: Miklos, this came from a Brit originally at May 04, 2024 12:48 AM (g3rvw)

    291 Kong doesn't like Godzilla.

    Also, the Japs don't much like him. Of course, that's probably just their xenophobia.

    Posted by: Joe Biden at May 04, 2024 12:48 AM (dHfdx)

    292
    Phil Hartman was hilarious as a drunken (well, the true) Teddy Kennedy in this.

    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

    Backatcha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5wfPlgKFh8

    Posted by: Miklos, whose first vote was happy Reagan kid vote at May 04, 2024 12:52 AM (g3rvw)

    293 The kid with the banjo and chicken on his shoulder is well worth the price of admission!

    Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 04, 2024 12:52 AM (MeG8a)

    294 You can also sing Emily Dickinson's poems to "Amazing Grace."
    Posted by: pookysgirl, actually using her Poetry class for once


    And now I'm hearing this to the Gilligan's Island tune:

    Amazing Grace,
    How sweet the sound,
    That saved a wretch like me.....

    I probably have to go to Confession now.

    Posted by: mikeski at May 04, 2024 12:53 AM (DgGvY)

    295
    Goodnight friends

    Stay tuned for AoS After Dark, following this message from the good folks at Alcoa Aluminum

    Posted by: Don Black at May 04, 2024 12:54 AM (/7KEl)

    296 Dont get cocky, kid!

    Posted by: a dude in MI at May 04, 2024 12:55 AM (+I6Y/)

    297 >>>my solo brush with a celebrity was with Mike Dukakis and Kitty on my honeymoon back in April of '83.
    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 12:44 AM (Sgq8y)

    Tell us more Debby.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 12:55 AM (Unmm2)

    298 In other words, Hamill became Luke because Freddy Krueger passed on the script.
    Also, Lucas's people apparently thought Freddy Krueger was the look they were going for.
    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea


    Who was the robosith dude with 4 lightsabers? Grievous?

    Freddy Skywalker with 5 on one hand would trump that.

    Posted by: mikeski at May 04, 2024 12:56 AM (DgGvY)

    299 Miklos, you always tell some amazing stories, my solo brush with a celebrity was with Mike Dukakis and Kitty on my honeymoon back in April of '83.
    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

    Does a sighting count? When they were filming Heart of Dixie on the Ole Miss Campus, my wife-to-be and I were driving around the square downtown, and I slowed to allow this anorexic-looking young woman dash across the street, running with her head tucked down. Behind her came this sauntering seedy, vagrant-looking bearded fellow with a contented smile.

    We make our way past them, and wife-to-be says "Wow!" When I ask, she says, that was Phoebe Cates and Kevin Kline. I can only say that Hollywood works miracles with make-up, lighting, and lenses, because glamorous those two were not.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 12:56 AM (u/Zei)

    300 Like Gojira, Rodan is a dark force of nature thag must be contained.
    Posted by: Censor the Kaiju


    .....

    Thag leave this one to Og.

    Posted by: Thag at May 04, 2024 12:57 AM (DgGvY)

    301 I haven't been hitting the site lately and commenting even less, you know why?
    I went back to work. I didn't have to do it, but what the heck, people are handing money to me, may as well earn it...
    Retirement was awesome while it lasted.

    Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 04, 2024 12:58 AM (MeG8a)

    302 You can also sing Emily Dickinson's poems to "Amazing Grace."
    Posted by: pookysgirl
    -----

    I prefer
    'Because I could not stop for Death —
    He kindly stopped for me —
    The Carriage held but just Ourselves —
    And Immortality.'

    To the tune of 'The Yellow Rose of Texas'

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 01:01 AM (XeU6L)

    303 So Godzilla stomps Tokyo

    Happens

    Posted by: Hiroshima and Nagasaki at May 04, 2024 01:04 AM (g3rvw)

    304 Angie Dickenson hmmm. One of the first to give me the stirrings, as a youngster, along with Elizabeth Montgomery.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:04 AM (Unmm2)

    305 We make our way past them, and wife-to-be says "Wow!" When I ask, she says, that was Phoebe Cates and Kevin Kline. I can only say that Hollywood works miracles with make-up, lighting, and lenses, because glamorous those two were not.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing

    I was an extra in what I have been told is a Very Bad Movie, called Shag.

    Incentives for Youthful Miklos?

    $300 and Phoebe Cates

    I was dissapoint.

    Posted by: Miklos $5 bucks all you can drink "if in the F&B Bidniss" as I had been at May 04, 2024 01:09 AM (g3rvw)

    306 Subscribed to Amazon Prime to save some momey.

    Hey! They had the newer versions of 'Doctor Who.'! I watched Matt Smith's seasons. The best new doctor.

    But just restarted with Eccleston, who I really like. I started watching years back since Doctor Who was so different than Western crap.

    And Billie Piper was pretty. But in the first episode,
    I was surprised at how big she was. Pretty but with several extra pounds. It explained the black boyfriend though.

    I've watched enough 'Jerry Springer.'

    Posted by: Stateless at May 04, 2024 01:10 AM (jvJvP)

    307 Giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Pelosi is like giving the Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat.
    Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper


    Hey, I got the Nobel in Medicine in 1949 for chopping up perfectly functional brains! Can I get a little credit here?

    Posted by: António Caetano Egas Moniz at May 04, 2024 01:10 AM (DgGvY)

    308 Brushes with celebrities real up and close- the only one I've had is Hulk Hogan.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:10 AM (Unmm2)

    309 Angie Dickenson hmmm. One of the first to give me the stirrings, as a youngster, along with Elizabeth Montgomery.
    Posted by: hart

    Considering the era, one can't omit Barbara Eden. As a kid I never got why Major Nelson spent the entire time being exasperated with her and lecturing her. Here Jeannie is in full harem garb with a radiant smile asking, "What is your desire, Master?" and she's paired with the one guy that has the entire male audience shouting at the screen "Buy a clue, Larry Hagman!"

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 01:14 AM (u/Zei)

    310 Rick, wondering If you're familiar with the Sting from the early eighties. Lol soccer was going to be a thing then. Karl
    -Heinz Granitza.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 12:45 AM (Unmm2)


    Had to look up the name (not K-H, know him); didn't recognize it. Probably saw them as I went to a lot of Cosmos games at Giants Stadium from the fall of '82 to whenever they folded in, what, '86 or '88? Saw club friendlies, including Maradona with Napoli, Kevin Keegan with Newcastle and others. Saw the Cosmos play a tune-up with Peru for their '82 World Cup appearance. Cosmos trounced them 5-2, scoring 2 or 3 goals down to 10 men on a cold, heavy flurries, March day. Got tix for the W.C. in '94, also in Jersey; I remember scalping two Italy-Ireland tix, $90 face, for a grand. Won a lottery for the 1/4's and saw Jurgen Klinsmann play against Bulgaria. Stoichkov scored one goal in a 2-1 Bulgaria win; Stoichkov was Europe's player of the year that year.

    I've seen the USMNT twice, once at the Meadowlands (a 4-0 friendly win against Mexico) and another time at Rutgers (a friendly 0-0 draw with Colombia).

    I miss going to games. I enjoyed them.

    Yeah, I'm one of those people.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 01:18 AM (emlEe)

    311 $20.00 a day as an extra, to sit in the stands at Indy for the movie 'Winning'. Me and four other guys would take in a case of beer with us.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 01:18 AM (XeU6L)

    312 That should be 'fall of '81'.

    Posted by: RickZ at May 04, 2024 01:19 AM (emlEe)

    313 I've watched enough 'Jerry Springer.'
    Posted by: Stateless

    FUN FACT

    Jerry Springer, Miklos and Muldoon all attended the same university.

    Two of these turned out well, the other made more money.

    Posted by: Miklos knows things like the hedgehog at May 04, 2024 01:20 AM (g3rvw)

    314 Me and four other guys would take in a case of beer with us.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.

    Union rules

    The guys get beer

    Posted by: Miklos hopes you did not pay at May 04, 2024 01:22 AM (g3rvw)

    315
    Mothra was freakin' great. Had never seen it before. Looked fantastic on bluray. Pretty decent story. Ended well. I'd totally bang the two foot tall midget twins. Interesting in that the city what gets torn up at the end is a sort of NYC analogue but with palm trees."

    I love that Mothra film - it's the most surrealistic of any of the Kaiju films, and that's because of the little princesses. You say they're too feet tall - well pay attention if you see it again, their size changes continually throughout. Sometimes they're only 6 inches tall, sometimes they're like weird hobbits. And the Japanese version of Pacific Islander culture is deliciously insane!

    Posted by: Tom Servo at May 04, 2024 01:26 AM (S6gqv)

    316 That should be 'fall of '81'.
    Posted by: RickZ

    The Summer of '42, you whippersnapper

    Posted by: at least it was sex and a cute non-lesbian chick and even won Awards (tell that to the kids) at May 04, 2024 01:29 AM (g3rvw)

    317 $20.00 a day as an extra, to sit in the stands at Indy for the movie 'Winning'. Me and four other guys would take in a case of beer with us.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer

    Never had the opportunity myself to be an extra, but my cousin Linda got the opportunity when they were filming part of Heaven's Gate in Wallace, Idaho. She said that Michael Cimino was insane in his insistence on complete authenticity - any storefront window in a scene had to showcase displays of vintage era goods, and everyone, extras included, had to wear authentic period costumes down to the skivvies. According to her, Christopher Walken and Sam Waterston were fairly regular guys, but Kris Kristofferson was ... not.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 01:29 AM (u/Zei)

    318 Rick, the Sting were a thing in Chicago in the early Eighties. They won a couple of championships in the soccer league of that day. It was kind of a big deal because the town was starved for pro success then. This was before the 85 Bears and the Bulls.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:30 AM (Unmm2)

    319 Mothra was freakin' great.




    Mothra never met the Giant Flying Cockroaches that escaped from the Savannah River Nuclear Plant.

    Posted by: Miklos has movie-type ideas at May 04, 2024 01:31 AM (g3rvw)

    320 Sleepiness has overtaken me. Night, Horde.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2024 01:33 AM (8zz6B)

    321 Hiya

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 01:33 AM (T4tVD)

    322 The very best presentation of the Presidential Medal of Honor was to Rush Limbaugh during the State of The Union address, Nancy turned rabid right before our eyes.

    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 01:34 AM (Sgq8y)

    323 but Kris Kristofferson was ... not.
    Posted by: John Drake Nearing

    Nor was I.

    My budding career as film extra ended when, due to weather, a scene in Caddyshack was changed to an indoor scene.

    Garden Party>>South Florida weather>indoor scene

    Posted by: Miklos did actually meet, in a way, Rodney Dangerfield at May 04, 2024 01:35 AM (g3rvw)

    324 Hiya hiya hiya hiya

    Posted by: Respected Elder Miklos prays for rain at May 04, 2024 01:36 AM (g3rvw)

    325 Sleepiness has overtaken me. Night, Horde.
    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

    Fast..hatch the battens

    Posted by: Drunken Sailr Miklos, ear-lie in tha mornin' at May 04, 2024 01:38 AM (g3rvw)

    326 Brushes with celebrities real up and close-

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:10 AM (Unmm2)

    =====

    I'm related to Jimmy Kimmel although I haven't seen him since we were kids. If I knew then what I know now I would've kicked him in the nuts a few times.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 01:40 AM (FzDG4)

    327 The very best presentation of the Presidential Medal of Honor was to Rush Limbaugh during the State of The Union address, Nancy turned rabid right before our eyes.
    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

    Rush's wife shed genuine tears.

    A rarity in DC.

    Posted by: President Miklos would revoke a lot of shit at May 04, 2024 01:40 AM (g3rvw)

    328 >>> 326 Brushes with celebrities real up and close-

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:10 AM (Unmm2)

    =====

    I'm related to Jimmy Kimmel although I haven't seen him since we were kids. If I knew then what I know now I would've kicked him in the nuts a few times.
    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 01:40 AM (FzDG4)

    See, *that* is what the time machine is for.

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 04, 2024 01:42 AM (llON8)

    329 Love that cock!
    Beautiful plumage and not pining for the fjords ..... yet.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Great Cocks! at May 04, 2024 01:44 AM (qfLjt)

    330 171 167 Do other posters also get a row of disgusting "sponsored" mini-ads at the bottom of the screen, whenever they hit the refresh key? mini-parasites and old age bruises & so forth?
    Posted by: mnw

    Turn off JavaScript and the ads disappear.
    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 11:15 PM (1wZKM)

    But then you forget you did that and spend all day trying to figure out why your bank web site won't load.....

    Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 04, 2024 01:45 AM (QGaXH)

    331 I'm related to Jimmy Kimmel although I haven't seen him since we were kids. If I knew then what I know now I would've kicked him in the nuts a few times.
    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 01:40 AM (FzDG4)

    Politics aside, he really comes across as a pos.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:46 AM (Unmm2)

    332 See, *that* is what the time machine is for.
    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 04, 2024 01:42 AM (llON8 )

    =====

    Heh, do you think Ace would let me borrow it?

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 01:47 AM (FzDG4)

    333 Corrola still really seems to like Kimmel. Personal ties I guess.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:53 AM (Unmm2)

    334 Regarding the singing of lyrics to the Gilligan's Island theme...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cINrWlfCPI

    Posted by: Half Dozen at May 04, 2024 01:54 AM (eHovo)

    335 14 I just read the dumbest article on a new lefty silliness called micro feminism and I think I need a drink. And I don’t drink.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 10:06 PM (+tzkt)
    ----
    Wait till you do trans-masculinity. No, I don't know what it means either.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Great Cucks at May 04, 2024 01:59 AM (qfLjt)

    336 According to her, Christopher Walken and Sam Waterston were fairly regular guys, but Kris Kristofferson was ... not.
    Posted by: John Drake


    The best youtube comment ever:

    "Fun fact: This isn't actually a music video. It's just hidden camera footage of what Christopher Walken does when no one's around."

    https://youtu.be/wCDIYvFmgW8

    Posted by: mikeski at May 04, 2024 01:59 AM (DgGvY)

    337 Biden gives the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Michelle Yeoh, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Mike Bloomberg and Al Gore ... and slides in a dig at Trump

    https://mol.im/a/13380385

    Posted by: Ciampino - How to degrde an honor at May 04, 2024 02:00 AM (qfLjt)

    338 Politics aside, he really comes across as a pos.
    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 01:46 AM (Unmm2)

    =====

    His father is also a major asshole. I actually saw him just a few years ago at my dad's funeral.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 02:00 AM (FzDG4)

    339 'transgender' student drags much smaller girl out of upstate NY school bathroom by hair during brawl, with clip prompting bomb threat that closed school


    https://mol.im/a/13381695

    Posted by: Ciampino - How to degrade an honor at May 04, 2024 02:02 AM (qfLjt)

    340 I met Christopher Walken in a dark alley once.

    I ran and hid.

    Wouldn't you?

    Had a beer after, Good Guy.

    Posted by: Miklos has some remanat sense of self preservation at May 04, 2024 02:03 AM (g3rvw)

    341 Because....

    Trunk Monkey
    https://youtu.be/2QazVIppiIo

    Cal Worthington and his dog Spot
    https://youtu.be/0HJALwCNbco

    Crazy Eddie Super Store
    https://youtu.be/Ml6S2yiuSWE

    Running of the Rainer Beers
    https://youtu.be/hIGVcgDVdBI

    Posted by: lost in space at May 04, 2024 02:04 AM (kGeV7)

    342 The Canadian State Is Euthanizing Its Poor and Disabled

    https://tinyurl.com/n8uw3zb5

    Posted by: Ciampino - How to solve the population bomb at May 04, 2024 02:06 AM (qfLjt)

    343 I've also met some minor celebrity and celebrity-adjacent people, like Jean Michel Cousteau, son of Jacques. Super nice guy. HIS son Fabien though...what a douche.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 02:08 AM (FzDG4)

    344 The NBA West playoffs are going to be unreal. Denver vs Minnesota and OKC vs Dallas in semi-finals. I don't think we've ever seen this level of competition in one half of one sports league ever. This is going to be crazy.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 02:09 AM (Unmm2)

    345 Tuberculosis outbreak: At least one dead, nine hospitalized, as health officials declare public health emergency California

    https://mol.im/a/13378731

    Posted by: Ciampino - To TB or not to TB at May 04, 2024 02:11 AM (qfLjt)

    346 342 The Canadian State Is Euthanizing Its Poor and Disabled

    ------------

    I just came up with a great name for the program. They could call it T4.

    Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2024 02:12 AM (bo7UB)

    347 Tuberculosis outbreak: At least one dead, nine hospitalized, as health officials declare public health emergency California

    https://mol.im/a/13378731
    Posted by: Ciampino - To TB or not to TB at May 04, 2024 02:11 AM (qfLjt)

    =====

    Now, where could that be coming from, I wonder?

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 02:13 AM (FzDG4)

    348 {{{Jordan}}} Oh, my gosh, very sorry about your Dad.

    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 02:14 AM (Sgq8y)

    349 NYU protestors call for 'death to America' and 'long live the intifada' in horrifying notes in their 'Gaza' camp

    https://mol.im/a/13380619

    Posted by: Ciampino - So is it OK to say death to mohammedans? at May 04, 2024 02:18 AM (qfLjt)

    350 {{{Jordan}}} Oh, my gosh, very sorry about your Dad.
    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 02:14 AM (Sgq8y)

    =====

    Aw thanks, DDS. It's been a while now, though. How are things with you?

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 04, 2024 02:18 AM (FzDG4)

    351 Things are good with me, except obviously I read that you lost your Dad a few days and not a few years ago. I'm slowin' down I tell ya.

    Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 04, 2024 02:21 AM (Sgq8y)

    352 "Fun fact: This isn't actually a music video. It's just hidden camera footage of what Christopher Walken does when no one's around."

    https://youtu.be/wCDIYvFmgW8
    Posted by: mikeski

    I could readily believe it. From what I've read, he always considered himself a dancer, and probably loved carrying an entire video on showing his skills. There's a Mel Gibson interview on Youtube somewhere about him wanting to cast Walken in Braveheart. Gibson said Walken met with him at a party in NYC on the roof of the Peninsula Hotel. He talked about how gracefully Walken moved - he "slid sideways" through the crowd right up to Gibson and his assistant.

    And they began to talk. And the more they talked, Gibson said, the more Walken weirded him out. At one point his assistant left, and Gibson said that he knew at that point he didn't want to work with Walken, but couldn't explain why Then Walken flashes this strange smile, and Gibson feels compelled to look behind him and see what Walken's seeing. There, on a rooftop, as part of an ad, are the numbers 6,6,6. Gibson is officially freaked out at this point and ends the meeting quickly.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 02:21 AM (u/Zei)

    353 University of Mississippi students taunt black female protester with racist monkey noises and 'Lizzo' chants in shameful clash at Ole Miss demo

    https://mol.im/a/13381295

    You know, it's only racist if you believe that you come from monkeys, otherwise it's no different to calling cops 'pigs'.

    Posted by: Ciampino - So is it not OK to call Whites 'racists'? at May 04, 2024 02:21 AM (qfLjt)

    354 Canada has always been the little brother to the US. It's never sit well with them but stop being such a pathetic loser. Hockey doesn't count and you haven't even done that well in a long time.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 02:22 AM (Unmm2)

    355 Bear in mind, Gibson is probably a little excitable and volatile. I always saw Walken as talented and eccentric, but a prisoner of his facial appearance. I've read that he idolized Elvis and always tries to have a hint of the Elvis hairstyle in his coiffure.

    Quentin Tarentino had (unusally) what I thought was a good take on Walken - in the 80s and the 90s, he was seen as leading man material, and was going all out for that. When it didn't materialize in the way that either he or Hollywood hoped, then he began playing the "character" Christopher Walken. As Tarentinto pointed out, it was at that point where the Walken imitations and parodies really caught fire, because Walken himself was parodying Walken.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 02:30 AM (u/Zei)

    356 Wait, wait...just came to me, I dated one of the starlets in 'Death Race 2000'. I shall not mention her name.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 02:38 AM (XeU6L)

    357 345 Tuberculosis outbreak: At least one dead, nine hospitalized, as health officials declare public health emergency California

    https://mol.im/a/13378731
    Posted by: Ciampino - To TB or not to TB at May 04, 2024 02:11 AM (qfLjt)

    5 cases of measles here in MI...its real mystery why these are increasing

    Posted by: a dude in MI at May 04, 2024 02:39 AM (+I6Y/)

    358 Canada has always been the little brother to the US. It's never sit well with them but stop being such a pathetic loser. Hockey doesn't count and you haven't even done that well in a long time.
    Posted by: hart

    Oh, dear...please, just don't say anything about their beer or God forbid, curling.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 02:39 AM (u/Zei)

    359 Walken wasn't classically handsome enough to ever be a leading man in Hollywood at that time. This was the time Stallone, Gibson and Schwarzenegger. Big time box office stars. There really isn't anyone like that now except for maybe Cruise.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 02:46 AM (Unmm2)

    360 'Blast From the Past'
    How could you go wrong with Christopher Walken and Sissy Spacek?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2024 02:54 AM (XeU6L)

    361 Walken wasn't classically handsome enough to ever be a leading man in Hollywood at that time. This was the time Stallone, Gibson and Schwarzenegger. Big time box office stars. There really isn't anyone like that now except for maybe Cruise.
    Posted by: hart

    The key period for Walken was 1980-1990. That bookends the first film where he had the lead role, Dogs of War, and the last, King of New York. The big one in that timeframe was The Dead Zone. Hollywood apparently saw promise there, but it didn't pan out. That's the thing, though - in such an insular place, oddities like Walken can sometimes get on their radar, whether it makes sense or not.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 02:55 AM (u/Zei)

    362 BLM and Hamas interrupt University of Michigan graduation.

    https://tinyurl.com/yck3uvpp

    This os where a bunch of Dads & Brothers, with tire irons, should have hospitalized/morguified the interrupters.

    Posted by: Ciampino - So is it OK to disrupt their marches? at May 04, 2024 02:57 AM (qfLjt)

    363 Right now, a Star who would be a clone of Steve McQueen, would actually OFFEND a large contingent of overly sensitive vaginaites.

    Not only TOO HANDSOME, but PRETTIER than any of THEM by a long shot, in the reckoning.

    And yeah. McQueen was the "pretty" kind of Handsome. Charles Bronson, was NOT.


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    /home way late from work

    Posted by: Jim at May 04, 2024 03:02 AM (e6UQI)

    364 I'd put Walken along with someone like Kevin Bacon. Good actors with solid careers but never big-time blockbuster leading man types.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 03:03 AM (Unmm2)

    365 340 I met Christopher Walken in a dark alley once.

    I ran and hid.

    Posted by: Miklos
    ----
    So You Ran So Far Away ---- but he caught you anyway!

    Posted by: Ciampino - Is there a Natalie Wood connection? at May 04, 2024 03:04 AM (qfLjt)

    366 My 'brush with greatness' was:

    Delivering the newspaper to Charles Bronson, when he was living in my town during filming of Breakheart Pass

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:07 AM (njWTi)

    367 The lightning 'round here, right now, is bad enough that I'm logging off and physically disconnecting.

    EVERY thing.

    hasta la nite nite, Horde!


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at May 04, 2024 03:07 AM (e6UQI)

    368 Prayers for protection of Jim SND tonight!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:13 AM (njWTi)

    369 Hiya JQ !

    How you ?

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:14 AM (T4tVD)

    370 Early 90's, I had the pleasure of serving beverages to Charlie Sexton & company, in the bar where I was working.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:14 AM (njWTi)

    371 Hiya, JT!

    Are we the only ones awake here, now?

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:15 AM (njWTi)

    372 Massachusetts woman wins $1m lottery jackpot twice in 10 weeks

    https://mol.im/a/13381979

    Posted by: Ciampino - Is there a connection? at May 04, 2024 03:16 AM (qfLjt)

    373 G'morning, all.

    12 hours into smoking these 4 Boston Butts for the Kentucky Derby party this afternoon

    Finally hit 160 degrees internal temp.

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2024 03:16 AM (a1415)

    374 Awkward moment Biden's economic adviser Jared Bernstein admits he can't explain how money works

    https://mol.im/a/13381631

    Posted by: Ciampino - Is there a Top Man here? at May 04, 2024 03:17 AM (qfLjt)

    375 So bummed...

    No raccoon in the trap yet!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:18 AM (njWTi)

    376 372
    So that woman wins $1M but keeps playing anyway. What are the odds of winning twice in a short time? Most people would have quit.

    Posted by: Ciampino - all the way to the bank at May 04, 2024 03:19 AM (qfLjt)

    377 Hiya, JT!

    Are we the only ones awake here, now?
    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:15 AM (njWTi)

    I ain't gonna be for much longer.....

    Posted by: JT at May 04, 2024 03:21 AM (T4tVD)

    378 Yeah, if I won $1M, think I'd quit playing lotto. Or, maybe just a dollar here & there.

    Maybe taxachusetts woman did that and just got lucky again.

    At that same point, I would quit playing altogether!

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:22 AM (njWTi)

    379 My 'brush with greatness' was:

    Delivering the newspaper to Charles Bronson, when he was living in my town during filming of Breakheart Pass
    Posted by: JQ

    That was an awesome movie, based on an Alistair MacLean novel. Bronson seems to have been an interesting fellow. Kurt Russell told a story about working with him on The Travels of Jamie McPheeters. A teen-age Kurt found out it was Bronson's birthday and got him a gift. Bronson looked at it blankly, then walked away without saying anything. Russell didn't know what to think, but caught up later with Bronson and asked him what happened. Bronson just said, nobody ever got me a present before.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 03:23 AM (u/Zei)

    380 Lord, I buy the tickets from time to time... Can I please just win a nice pot ONCE? Please?

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:24 AM (njWTi)

    381 Posted by: John Drake

    Mr. Bronson seemed like a very nice fellow. My brother went with me, to "collect" for newspaper.... He was very polite and friendly to us kids.

    Posted by: JQ at May 04, 2024 03:27 AM (njWTi)

    382 353 University of Mississippi students taunt black female protester with racist monkey noises and 'Lizzo' chants in shameful clash at Ole Miss demo

    https://mol.im/a/13381295

    You know, it's only racist if you believe that you come from monkeys, otherwise it's no different to calling cops 'pigs'.
    Posted by: Ciampino



    So a 'protestor' chick at a 'Kill the Jews' rally is upset that a bunch of white guys called her names. I'm strangely unmoved by this. Also, I'm guessing this is bs.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 03:29 AM (aKh6S)

    383 Awkward moment Biden's economic adviser Jared Bernstein admits he can't explain how money works

    https://mol.im/a/13381631
    Posted by: Ciampino - Is there a Top Man here? at May 04, 2024 03:17 AM (qfLjt)

    My first assumption is that any government "employee" at any level is an idiot and is probably the least qualified person to explain whatever job it is they're supposed to be doing.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 03:30 AM (Unmm2)

    384 Mr. Bronson seemed like a very nice fellow. My brother went with me, to "collect" for newspaper.... He was very polite and friendly to us kids.
    Posted by: JQ

    Kurt Russell said that after the gift incident, Bronson went out of his way to be nice to him, even telling the producers to take a hike when they didn't want Russell riding a skateboard in between scenes. Everything I've read indicated that he was a pretty decent guy, with genuine humility.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 03:39 AM (u/Zei)

    385 Also, I'm guessing this is bs.
    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 04, 2024 03:29 AM (aKh6S)

    Of course it's BS. They always lie. About everything.

    Posted by: hart at May 04, 2024 03:41 AM (Unmm2)

    386 9 I just read/sang some of Dickenson's poems to my wife.

    She hates you WD. LOL
    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 10:03 PM (WXNFJ)

    ; )

    Posted by: m at May 04, 2024 03:46 AM (o3SCB)

    387 So a 'protestor' chick at a 'Kill the Jews' rally is upset that a bunch of white guys called her names. I'm strangely unmoved by this. Also, I'm guessing this is bs.
    Posted by: Puddleglum

    As an Ole Miss alum, I admit I may be a bit biased, but the article in the link definitely had a pro-Palestine angle to it. In usual media fashion, they "correct" the headline several paragraphs down with the information that one person in the crowd was simulating ape behavior and making chimp-like noises. One idiot in any mass gathering is hardly an indicator of the entirety of the crowd.

    From what I can tell, the pro-Hamas demonstrator was aggravated when the crowd drowned out her every word with "terrorists," and she moved forward to possibly provoke a confrontation. Some in the Ole Miss crowd called her "Lizzo" and made fun of her weight. Not nice, perhaps, but agitating to kill Jews is arguably less so, to put it mildly. The funny part to me is that the UPD intervened for the Hamas crowd's safety and whisked them off-campus. Bad old Ole Miss actually saved their terrorist-loving asses from the consequences of what they were doing.

    Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at May 04, 2024 03:59 AM (u/Zei)

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    The present day country of Turkey is home to many well-known megalithic sites such as Gobekli Tepe, Hattusha and Midas Kenti, but it is also home to a much lesser known yet equally impressive ancient site known as "Kapilikaya."

    Located about 27 kilometers north of the city of Corum and hidden away inside a mountainous outcropping is an ancient structure known as the "Tomb of Kapilikaya."

    [It] is thought to be a tomb of the Hellenistic period, dating back to approximately the 2nd century B.C.

    Rising above a gentle stream that flows beneath on the forest floor, a steep trail winds up the left side of the rock outcropping and eventually leads to a platform of stairs located directly in front of the tomb.

    The tomb is not simply a door shaped façade but is actually a cube shaped structure cut out of the mountain, only connecting to the natural rock around it at a few points.

    From inside you can actually walk all the way around it or climb up onto its top.

    The inner chamber of the tomb can only be accessed through entering a small square opening about halfway up the face of the structure.

    An inscription above the entrance reads "IKEZIOS," 2 which some believe is attributed to an ancient commander named Ikezius.


    Street sledding.

    Snow rafting.

    Big dog plays with tiny puppy.

    The anchordog in this race is a one-hopper.

    Two of Bologna's medieval towers. I mentioned this before, but medieval Bologna was more full of towers than downtown Manhattan.

    A little Northern Lights-show.

    Fun little optical illusion video. (The main "illusion" is just a video special effect.)

    Giant glacier in Patagonia.

    Tree-climbing doggo.

    The beautiful sound of the octobass. "Amazing Bass" with double bass and octobass.



    Penguins depressed over the defamations contained in the "Penguin Facts" posts commit mass suicide:


    Slidin' into the weekend like...

    Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 07:30 PM




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    1 Probably not first.

    Posted by: Catherine at May 03, 2024 07:39 PM (ZSsrh)

    2 Hmm. Guess I'll go get 'em.

    Posted by: Catherine at May 03, 2024 07:40 PM (ZSsrh)

    3 Good evening everyone

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:40 PM (fwDg9)

    4 What a rookie!

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 03, 2024 07:40 PM (h+f0D)

    5 "In a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit."

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:40 PM (BpYfr)

    6 Thanks for the Friday Cafe, ACE!

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 03, 2024 07:41 PM (h+f0D)

    7 Isn't that the Drarves gate to Moria?

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:41 PM (fwDg9)

    8 Penguins depressed over the defamations contained in the "Penguin Facts" posts commit mass suicide:
    ---
    Something tells me the anti-Penguinists around here aren't going to be too upset by this development...

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:42 PM (BpYfr)

    9 Lace Wigs beat me to it. And now I kinda wanna know what Nurse had to do when WFH. *shrug*

    Posted by: Catherine at May 03, 2024 07:42 PM (ZSsrh)

    10 Isn't that the Drarves gate to Moria?
    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:41 PM (fwDg9)
    ---
    "Speak, friend, and enter!"

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:43 PM (BpYfr)

    11 Lemmings > Penguins

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:44 PM (v0R5T)

    12 And now I kinda wanna know what Nurse had to do when WFH. *shrug*
    Posted by: Catherine at May 03, 2024 07:42 PM (ZSsrh)

    I think she had to talk to people on the phone and stuff.

    *shudder

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:44 PM (OX9vb)

    13 Nyah!

    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2024 07:44 PM (4aTyy)

    14 I would like to see northern lights like that at least once

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:45 PM (fwDg9)

    15 I am boycotting Turkey!

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (V13WU)

    16 LOL... Ukraine creates an AI generated female spokeperson... to perpetuate their propaganda ...

    and... it does not look Ukrainian. Looks Middle Eastern... Black Hair, dark eyes, not Caucasian skin color.

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (xaFKb)

    17 Sydney Sweeney gave me a megalith.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (MvF+J)

    18 Something tells me the anti-Penguinists around here aren't going to be too upset by this development...
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:42 PM (BpYfr)
    ........

    FREE THE ICE SHELF

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (v0R5T)

    19 An inscription above the entrance reads "IKEZIOS," which some believe is attributed to an ancient commander named Ikezius.
    -

    Science is amazing.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (IF3vp)

    20 Penguins depressed over the defamations contained in the "Penguin Facts" posts commit mass suicide:

    ==

    Penguin Facts is asshoe.

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 07:47 PM (V13WU)

    21 14 I would like to see northern lights like that at least once
    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:45 PM (fwDg9)

    Southern Cross, and the Northen Lights...

    Some things everyone should see.

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 03, 2024 07:47 PM (xaFKb)

    22 A classic movies channel here is showing original trailers as filler between main features and I see that the Seven Days in May 1963 screenplay was written by Rod Serling.

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 07:47 PM (UfUdn)

    23 Can the military be more broke?

    A pointy headed freak just got nudged by the Good Idea Fairy with an interesting proposition so he says, "hold my wine."

    The idea? Let those with autism join the military services.

    https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=156218

    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2024 07:48 PM (4aTyy)

    24 17 Sydney Sweeney gave me a megalith.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (MvF+J)

    Proof that boobs can get you far.

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 07:48 PM (q7hip)

    25 7 Isn't that the Drarves gate to Moria?
    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:41 PM (fwDg9)

    No lake right next to it...

    /shows off his Nerd Cred...

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 03, 2024 07:49 PM (xaFKb)

    26 These penguins are getting their own show! From executive producer @jamescameronofficial, “Secrets of the Penguins,” is coming in 2025!

    ==

    Penguins deserve their own show!

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 07:49 PM (V13WU)

    27 So Ukraine now has a spokes AI?

    Someone tell Neuro-sama.

    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2024 07:49 PM (4aTyy)

    28 All about that bass, no twouble <- how my kid pronounced the lyrics when she was a toddler and that is the authoritative form of the song for me. When young children go through their adorable drunk Jamaican phase.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 07:49 PM (Y6IkP)

    29 and... it does not look Ukrainian. Looks Middle Eastern... Black Hair, dark eyes, not Caucasian skin color.

    -

    They eventually had to do that because swastikas kept showing up with the regular prompts.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:49 PM (IF3vp)

    30 Pffftt Fuck Kapilitaya Ima buh that joint and make a slammin jet set night club.

    P-Diddys cousin Poop-Diddy

    Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at May 03, 2024 07:50 PM (LAZA1)

    31 Anna, fragging made great again.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:50 PM (mKjJV)

    32 IIRC, there's a city in USA that downhill-races old furniture, kinda like the Madeirans race rafts. Couches, recliners.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 07:50 PM (MvF+J)

    33 How do you transport the Octobass?

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 07:50 PM (63Dwl)

    34 These penguins are getting their own show! From executive producer @jamescameronofficial, “Secrets of the Penguins,” is coming in 2025!
    -


    "Take this to your grave, Frank. Do you hear me?"

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:50 PM (IF3vp)

    35
    Puppies fed. Little gluttons.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 07:51 PM (MoZTd)

    36 Saw several hummingbirds while buying some annuals for the garden.

    Yay spring!

    Posted by: Pussy Galore at May 03, 2024 07:51 PM (MB784)

    37 The idea? Let those with autism join the military services.

    What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?

    Posted by: Gunnery Sgt Hartman at May 03, 2024 07:51 PM (/HDaX)

    38 I am boycotting Turkey!
    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (V13W
    Me too. Until November, at least.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 07:52 PM (NxC5+)

    39 An inscription above the entrance reads "IKEZIOS," which some believe is attributed to an ancient commander named Ikezius.
    -

    Science is amazing.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (IF3vp)
    ---
    I thought it was Greek for "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!"

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:52 PM (BpYfr)

    40 The octobass is amazing. Very cool.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:52 PM (hUZEZ)

    41 Dang, basic training would be nuts for people with a mental disorder preventing them from properly understanding and responding to social cues.

    Good thing the word lost all meaning and it can just be people that prefer the color blue in bathrooms.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:52 PM (IF3vp)

    42 I had a whole misconception about Portugal. That is definitely not the cork producing region

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:52 PM (mKjJV)

    43 Little known fact: Cork was discovered in the 12th century by a black woman.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:53 PM (IF3vp)

    44 >>> I am boycotting Turkey!
    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 07:46 PM (V13WU)


    If you pump it full of enough cajun injection juice then smoke it they're wonderful. Now I admit that's not saying a lot. An old gamey bird like me would even turn out pretty well that way.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (Y6IkP)

    45 No cicadas yet here in the western Chicago burbs

    Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (MB784)

    46 7 The idea? Let those with autism join the military services.

    What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?
    Posted by: Gunnery Sgt Hartman at May 03, 2024 07:51 PM (/
    The Israelis encourage Asperger scale individuals to serve in crypto and photo analysis.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (NxC5+)

    47 I call baloney on ghe structural integrity of the towers in Baloney.
    WTH I am being hinder we d from posting by a pic of chicks legs. ?

    Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (LAZA1)

    48 Wait, are we boycotting eating turkey or calling people turkey?

    Because I really enjoy calling people turkey.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (IF3vp)

    49 I'm pro-penguin.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 07:55 PM (NpAcC)

    50 @16

    >>and... it does not look Ukrainian. Looks Middle Eastern... Black Hair, dark eyes, not Caucasian skin color.

    All out of the box generative AI engines bias for the creation of POCs and AI's of non-specific ethnic extraction but definitely not white-white.

    I am currently being trained in our new ERP system by an AI that could be an Asian-Indo-Hispani-PacifcIslander, but with a subtle Mid-Western Accent.

    It's funny.

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 03, 2024 07:55 PM (XV/Pl)

    51 Okay, I will admit that I kind of love that if actual humans can't achieve the requirements to perform a job then we'll just create and AI and pretend they did.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:56 PM (IF3vp)

    52 Medieval Bologna engraving is good candidate for art thread.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 07:56 PM (MvF+J)

    53 The Israelis encourage Asperger scale individuals to serve in crypto and photo analysis.
    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (NxC5+)


    That actually makes sense. So you know our military will do no such thing.

    Posted by: Gunnery Sgt Hartman at May 03, 2024 07:56 PM (/HDaX)

    54 Moron Robbie, silly. Everybody know Cork is a county in Ireland.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:56 PM (mKjJV)

    55 What made Turkey jive?

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 07:56 PM (q7hip)

    56 The idea? Let those with autism join the military services.

    https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=156218
    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2024 07:48 PM (4aTyy)

    My autistic daughter was annoyingly recruited. I had her take the ASVAB to convince her what her talents were. Her top-flight math and science scores made her desirable apparently. I had to tell them she needs ADD meds to get them to back off.

    Posted by: Catherine at May 03, 2024 07:57 PM (ZSsrh)

    57 17
    Sydneyhenge

    Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at May 03, 2024 07:57 PM (MB784)

    58 I'm kind of doubting the authenticity of the wind surfers. They seem to be screaming across the water, but the water is flat and I don't see a single whitecap. How can the wind blow that hard and not affect the water?

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:57 PM (hUZEZ)

    59 Little known fact: Cork was discovered in the 12th century by a black woman.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told

    Littler known fact we used to use burnt cork for hobo halloween make up..

    Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at May 03, 2024 07:57 PM (LAZA1)

    60 >>> Wait, are we boycotting eating turkey or calling people turkey?

    Because I really enjoy calling people turkey.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (IF3vp)

    🕺 🦃

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 07:57 PM (Y6IkP)

    61 45 They're there. Underground I think.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 07:58 PM (MvF+J)

    62 Turkey just ended a 7 billion dollar a year trade agreement with Israel.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:00 PM (mKjJV)

    63 Moron Robbie, silly. Everybody know Cork is a county in Ireland.
    -

    The "O" has some weird little punctuation over it and you're supposed to cough a little bit when you say it.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 08:01 PM (IF3vp)

    64 "IKEZIOS," 2 which some believe is attributed to an ancient commander named Ikezius.



    He must of been pissed when they misspelled his tomb. I'll be he smote them.

    Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 03, 2024 08:01 PM (d0oJa)

    65

    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Octobass

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 08:02 PM (63Dwl)

    66 I had a Brittany Spaniel that used to climb right over chain link fences.

    One time I couldn't find her in the house after a nasty overnight thunderstorm. Looked and called everywhere.

    Finally heard her whine ... in the attic. She had climbed up the ladder that I used to reach the attic.

    Loved that dog!

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 08:02 PM (HlyYF)

    67 hiya

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 08:03 PM (T4tVD)

    68 Was the blog outage today explained?

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:03 PM (u73oe)

    69 Where are you boys from in the world?

    You twins?

    Posted by: lieutenant dan talking to paul and sid at May 03, 2024 08:03 PM (UfUdn)

    70 I have lots (cough) of corks . I can drive a 16 penny nail in them for ammo but I need a delivery system.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:04 PM (mKjJV)

    71 #60 Jive turkey!

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 08:05 PM (UfUdn)

    72
    What made Turkey jive?
    Posted by: AlaBAMA


    The Bee Gees

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 08:05 PM (63Dwl)

    73 Years ago when I was in cowlige a buddy and I decided to take a road trip and visit Middlebury College during their winter festival. Middlebury has their own ski mountain cause of course they do and somebody decided it would be great idea to have inner tube races down the main slope that led right to the lodge.

    There was so much carnage. Bodies and other assorted stuff strewn all over. It was awesome.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 08:05 PM (LkLld)

    74 anti-Penguinists

    ***

    anti-Penguinistas

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 08:05 PM (n/1xr)

    75 That penguin spinning on the way down! He is the class clown.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 08:05 PM (LaC4U)

    76 Penguins will often push their comrades into the ocean to test the waters for Leopard seals and killer whales. Some individuals have notably pushed their own mothers off of a 50 foot cliff in a instinctual attempt to prolong their own miserable existence.

    Posted by: Penguin Facts at May 03, 2024 08:06 PM (vFG9F)

    77
    Was the blog outage today explained?
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:03 PM (u73oe)

    ___________

    Mistakes were made
    Administrative measures are underway
    This matter is closed

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 08:06 PM (MoZTd)

    78 77
    Was the blog outage today explained?
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:03 PM (u73oe)

    ___________

    Mistakes were made
    Administrative measures are underway
    This matter is closed
    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 08:06 PM (MoZTd

    Hamster strike?

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 08:07 PM (q7hip)

    79 70 I have lots (cough) of corks . I can drive a 16 penny nail in them for ammo but I need a delivery system.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:04 PM


    Propane-powered blow gun? (Like a potato cannon.)

    [Hiya Ben!]

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 08:07 PM (HlyYF)

    80 Pillage Idiot, like the guy had in no country for old men ?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:09 PM (mKjJV)

    81 Duke, the whatzit failed to connect with thingamajig

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:11 PM (mKjJV)

    82 56 The idea? Let those with autism join the military services.

    https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=156218
    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2024 07:48 PM (4aTyy)

    My autistic daughter was annoyingly recruited. I had her take the ASVAB to convince her what her talents were. Her top-flight math and science scores made her desirable apparently. I had to tell them she needs ADD meds to get them to back off.
    Posted by: Catherine at May 03, 2024 07:57 PM (ZSsrh)
    When I was a Navy recruiter, this young man scored a 99 on the ASVAB, the classifier offered him Equipment Operator. He asked me if it was a good job and I said ‘heck, it’s the best’, of course I’m an EO, so what could I say? Oh yeah, he already had scholarship offers to USC, Clemson, UGA, GT, Furman and this was in the mid80s when college still meant something. You get the idea. He was a good kid, lost track of him. Didn’t enlist.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 08:11 PM (NxC5+)

    83 79 Carbide cannon.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 08:12 PM (MvF+J)

    84 Lemminguins! Geronimo!

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2024 08:12 PM (8zz6B)

    85 they are not lemmings ! they are binding with their habitat!

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 08:14 PM (V13WU)

    86 80 Pillage Idiot, like the guy had in no country for old men ?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:09 PM


    I actually missed that movie.

    I do know that Moron physics >>>> Hollywood physics!

    Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 03, 2024 08:14 PM (HlyYF)

    87 The idea? Let those with autism join the military services.

    https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=156218
    Posted by: Anna Puma at May 03, 2024 07:48 PM (4aTyy)

    Maybe they'd be good at KP.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2024 08:15 PM (8zz6B)

    88 Hamster strike?
    Posted by: AlaBAMA

    Hamaster infiltrator-instigated insurrection

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 08:15 PM (n/1xr)

    89 Pillage Idiot, I am so looking forward to seeing you both in October.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:17 PM (mKjJV)

    90 >>>Street sledding.

    It doesn't take much to separate a tourist from his money.

    Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 03, 2024 08:18 PM (klJTj)

    91 88 Hamster strike?
    Posted by: AlaBAMA

    Hamaster infiltrator-instigated insurrection

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 08:15 PM (n/1xr)


    Were the hamsters protesting Zionist Israel?

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 08:18 PM (q7hip)

    92 Some individuals have notably pushed their own mothers off of a 50 foot cliff in a instinctual attempt to prolong their own miserable existence.
    Posted by: Penguin Facts at May 03, 2024 08:06 PM (vFG9F)

    So, penguins are Democrats.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 08:19 PM (OX9vb)

    93 Penguin Facts is the James O'Keefe of the Café.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 08:21 PM (a3Q+t)

    94 It always looked, if you squint, that the military was being run by people who were simultaneously frightened of it, and doing their level best to F it up, while yet wanting to continue to kill people and blow stuff up around the world.

    Sooner or later, it ain’t gonna work no mo.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 03, 2024 08:21 PM (DPe6y)

    95 92 Only the high-caste gentoo penguins.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 08:21 PM (9yWhg)

    96 North of the site in the picture up top is the town of Sinop, on the shores of the Black Sea. it sits next to an extinct volcano. Along its base is an ancient Roman fort. When I was stationed there, we were forbidden to bring in metal detectors. It was still possible to find Roman coins in and about the fort. The Turks were protective of the place...especially the gold coins.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 08:22 PM (W/lyH)

    97
    Maybe they'd be good at KP.
    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


    Don't they hire local civilians to do that?

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 08:22 PM (63Dwl)

    98 They were chanting in wee squeaky voices:

    "From the Barrel to the Margins
    Hamaster warriors will be chargin"

    I admit the tiny picket signs on toothpicks were cute, specially the one that read " Dildo free zone"

    Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 03, 2024 08:22 PM (n/1xr)

    99 There’s graffiti on a 2000 year old tomb

    Posted by: Gonzotx at May 03, 2024 08:23 PM (fNosa)

    100 Duke look back on Tech, Pixy said it wasn't the server, somewhere after that

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 08:23 PM (fwDg9)

    101 I am boycotting Turkey!

    Bacon > Turkey >>> Turkey bacon

    Posted by: Oddbob at May 03, 2024 08:24 PM (/y8xj)

    102 take a cork along with you to the hardware store next time you go there, Ben Had, & find a pipe or tubing that wil make a reasonable sliding fit ... get a length of it , attach a ball valve to one end, connect to compressor tank ...
    without going to find a cork & trial fitting it I would likely suggest starting with 3/4" nominal Schedule 40 pipe, or 3/4 rigid copper tube

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 08:24 PM (tQtDb)

    103 96 Ah, Sinop. Great place.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 08:24 PM (9yWhg)

    104 So, penguins are Democrats.
    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 08:19 PM


    Their bouquet is practically indistinguishable from each other.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 08:25 PM (a3Q+t)

    105 I suspect the penguins in back are pushing the ones in front off the cliff

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 08:25 PM (fwDg9)

    106 There’s graffiti on a 2000 year old tomb
    Posted by: Gonzotx at May 03, 2024 08:23 PM (fNosa)

    FJB ?

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 08:26 PM (T4tVD)

    107 102 Get a press and resizing die to get all your corks to a uniform diameter.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 08:26 PM (MvF+J)

    108 >>>Tree-climbing doggo.

    That is not a tree-climbing dog. She is a fence-climbing dog.

    Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 03, 2024 08:27 PM (klJTj)

    109 I am boycotting Turkey!

    Bacon > Turkey >>> Turkey bacon
    Posted by: Oddbob at May 03, 2024 08:24 PM (/y8xj)


    Glad I got my Tisas 1911 when I did.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 08:27 PM (W/lyH)

    110 sock_rat, thanks. I will give that try. Might be a fun project.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 08:27 PM (mKjJV)

    111 I mentioned I was recording and partially watching the 1958 Carry On, Sergeant movie this morning because it showed the actors really firing and assembling a Bren gun and using Enfield No.4 rifles at a real National Service army base, including a few real recruits too.

    It had an ending you'd not see today -- fine the worst platoon in the unit shaped up and won the 'Best Platoon' award at the end of training but they also showed the guys helping each other, the squad's worst non-comical soldier not only completes the training course well but volunteers for the regular army; and the squad bought their Company Sergeant, who was retiring with the platoon being his last one trained, a fancy cigarette lighter with a note thanking him "from the Boys".

    First in the series that was made just as a one-off film so it's a bit more serious than the later ones and less madcap. [No Sid James either!]

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 08:29 PM (UfUdn)

    112 I better turn this off, got somewhere to go early
    Hope everyone has a great evening

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 08:29 PM (fwDg9)

    113 I wonder if any of the DNC delegates this year will organize a 'fart-in' like the Bernie Bros did in 2016?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 08:31 PM (a3Q+t)

    114 'Nite Skip !

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 08:31 PM (T4tVD)

    115 oh yeah, no doubt of that BH!

    buddy of mine had one years ago that fired old AA batteries

    for best velocity, a short and large-diameter connection is best, and a full-port valve ... don't want any pressure drop during those few milliseconds of acceleration!

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 08:31 PM (tQtDb)

    116 There’s graffiti on a 2000 year old tomb
    Posted by: Gonzotx at May 03, 2024 08:23 PM (fNosa)

    FJB ?
    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 08:26 PM (T4tVD)
    ***

    The King is a fink!

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 08:31 PM (W/lyH)

    117 G'nite, Skip.

    Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 03, 2024 08:32 PM (mH6SG)

    118 Night, Skip! Hope your tomorrow is great!

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 08:32 PM (71y1j)

    119 The Turks were protective of the place...especially the gold coins.
    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 08:22 PM

    Do you have GOS cordenants?

    - Oak Island Crew

    Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at May 03, 2024 08:35 PM (LAZA1)

    120

    I would like to have a very large seal beachmaster impregnate my anus....

    Posted by: Lance Gay at May 03, 2024 08:36 PM (aUTNS)

    121 The Rock Tomb of Kapilikaya looks suspiciously like my gun safe.

    I mean, if I had a gun safe...if I had guns. which I don't.

    Never mind. I wasn't here.

    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 08:36 PM (njExo)

    122 Coordinates would be better...

    Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at May 03, 2024 08:36 PM (LAZA1)

    123 Looks to me like good penguins being wafted to their eternal reward.

    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (njExo)

    124 151 Ooh, cafe is open.
    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:39 PM (OX9vb)

    Two things:

    1) That is not an official NOOD young lady ...

    b) She was the only one to make the effort ...

    I'm back in the old thread waiting for the next pithy comment.

    What's that age old question: How do you keep a Moron in suspense ?

    Posted by: browndog feeling sheepish at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (TTAGa)

    125 Research warns IQ is falling for first time EVER.... our map reveals average scores in every US state

    https://mol.im/a/13380029

    Remind me again how many 3rd world semi-morons have we allowed in?

    Posted by: Ciampino - Drugs & sex is my bet . at May 03, 2024 08:39 PM (qfLjt)

    126 123 Looks to me like good penguins being wafted to their eternal reward.
    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (njExo)
    You ever consider they might be headed the other direction, where it’s……..warmer?

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 08:41 PM (NxC5+)

    127 1) That is not an official NOOD young lady ...

    b) She was the only one to make the effort ...

    IPosted by: browndog feeling sheepish at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (TTAGa)

    Ha! I scoff at your rules! That is how I always announce the cafe nood. I will persist.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 08:42 PM (OX9vb)

    128 68 Was the blog outage today explained?
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:03 PM (u73oe)

    Pixy did make an appearance, but said no more than that there have been server issues.

    And, he mentioned that said server issues would be addressed this weekend ... plan accordingly.

    Posted by: browndog has the blackout site bookmarked at May 03, 2024 08:42 PM (TTAGa)

    129 How do you keep a Moron in suspense ?
    Posted by: browndog feeling sheepish at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (TTAGa)

    ————————-

    Well, how!

    I GOTTA KNOW!

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:43 PM (u73oe)

    130 Ha! I scoff at your rules! That is how I always announce the cafe nood. I will persist.
    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 08:42 PM (OX9vb)

    Feisty, I like that.

    Carry On ...

    Posted by: browndog backs the fuq up at May 03, 2024 08:43 PM (TTAGa)

    131 Preds VS Canucks 0-0 after two.

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:46 PM (u73oe)

    132 129 How do you keep a Moron in suspense ?
    Posted by: browndog feeling sheepish at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (TTAGa)

    ————————-

    Well, how!

    I GOTTA KNOW!
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:43 PM (u73oe)

    I gots to know

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhbeugRm66U

    Posted by: browndog carry the worlds most powerful handgun at May 03, 2024 08:47 PM (TTAGa)

    133 123. Looks to me like good penguins being wafted to their eternal reward.
    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 08:38 PM (njExo)

    126. You ever consider they might be headed the other direction, where it’s……..warmer? - Eromero


    Not likely. My contacts there - and they are many - tell me they've never seen a penguin.

    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 08:48 PM (njExo)

    134 I gots to know

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhbeugRm66U
    Posted by: browndog carry the worlds most powerful handgun at May 03, 2024 08:47 PM (TTAGa)

    ————

    Heh. I don’t even have to click on that to know what it is.

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:48 PM (u73oe)

    135 Heh. I don’t even have to click on that to know what it is.
    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 08:48 PM (u73oe)

    ***fistbump***

    Posted by: browndog carry the worlds most powerful handgun at May 03, 2024 08:51 PM (TTAGa)

    136 *fistbump*

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 08:54 PM (tQtDb)

    137 though truthfully my favorite quote from that is to his rookie partner after he caught the jumper ... "Now you know why they call me Dirty Harry ... because I do every dirty job that comes along."

    back in the working life that really spoke to me ... still does today.

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 08:59 PM (tQtDb)

    138 'Zionist satirist' savages UCLA Palestine protestors with spoof video demanding 'banana-free bananas' and 'gluten-free humanitarian aid'

    https://mol.im/a/13380759

    Also plant-based peanuts.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Gluten-free sex at May 03, 2024 09:03 PM (qfLjt)

    139 I always liked Dirty Harry's strictures on putting ketchup on a hot dog.

    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 09:04 PM (njExo)

    140 The 44 Magnum was a low selling gun until Dirty Harry. It's back to a low selling gun.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 09:04 PM (inGXk)

    141 OT

    100° temperature, double ear ache. Ibuprofen didn't touch it, took some Tylenol. Headed to bed, appointment at the walk in clinic is 0945 tomorrow.

    Good night everyone.

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 03, 2024 09:06 PM (MsrgL)

    142 My favorite Dirty Harry quote is after he was chewed out and captain or whoever was chewing him out asked him if he had anything to say.

    'Yeah your mouthwash just ain't cutting it '

    Or something close to that

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 09:08 PM (inGXk)

    143 Was the blog outage today explained?
    Posted by: Duke Lowell

    A small rip in the space-time continuum. Nothing to worry about.

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 09:08 PM (WXNFJ)

    144 BifBewalski

    Do you need a bedtime nurse?

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2024 09:08 PM (u82oZ)

    145 re: Fseisi, never trust a man that wears make up.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 09:09 PM (lCWOD)

    146 as a born&raised chicagoan I can only echo 139 ...

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:09 PM (tQtDb)

    147 Posted by: BifBewalski at May 03, 2024 09:06 PM (MsrgL

    Keep an eye on your temp. Tylenol best for that.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 09:10 PM (inGXk)

    148 Do you need a bedtime nurse?

    Posted by: NaCly Dog

    Smash has that covered. Made me a hot toddie with rum and honey. MegaRoy has plopped down across my shins and is keeping me from fidegting. His only rule, is *Do. Not. Disturb. The. Cat.*

    Posted by: BifBewalski at May 03, 2024 09:10 PM (MsrgL)

    149 There’s graffiti on a 2000 year old tomb
    Posted by: Gonzotx

    FJB ?
    Posted by: JT
    ***

    The King is a fink!
    Posted by: Diogenes

    Kilroy was here!

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 09:10 PM (WXNFJ)

    150 @142, LOL

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:10 PM (tQtDb)

    151 my NSAID of choice for fever has always been aspirin, plain & simple ... fwiw & justsayin'

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:12 PM (tQtDb)

    152 142 My favorite Dirty Harry quote is after he was chewed out and captain or whoever was chewing him out asked him if he had anything to say.

    'Yeah your mouthwash just ain't cutting it '

    Or something close to that
    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 09:08 PM (inGXk)

    The classic 'Collecting for the Red Cross' is probably my favorite.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 09:13 PM (di6C2)

    153 {{{Ben Had }}}

    ♩ Good evening! ♬

    🥃
    🥃
    🥃

    That village is on a volcanic island in the Atlantic claimed by Portugal. Cork bearing trees are on flatter ground in mainland Portugal.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2024 09:13 PM (u82oZ)

    154 BifBewalski

    You married smart and well.

    Heal!

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2024 09:14 PM (u82oZ)

    155 3 liquid gel Advil and two fingers of bourbon.

    You're welcome.

    Posted by: Marcus T at May 03, 2024 09:16 PM (TkpK/)

    156 Bonnie Bedalia (Mrs John Mclaine) to the reporter guy in Die Hard 2 'Stronger mouthwash might be nice.'

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 09:17 PM (di6C2)

    157 Take care, Bif.

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 09:17 PM (UfUdn)

    158 If it is an ear infection antibiotic should clear it up

    A little concerning it is bilateral, they may want you to have an IV

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 09:17 PM (RIvkX)

    159 Little known fact: Cork was discovered in the 12th century by a black woman.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told


    The value of burnt Cork was discovered by pillaging Vikings

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 09:19 PM (D7oie)

    160 my NSAID of choice for fever has always been aspirin, plain & simple ... fwiw & justsayin'
    Posted by: sock_rat_eez

    I always have a spot of trouble with aspirin. They're too small and usually fall out.



    What?

    Posted by: Tonypete at May 03, 2024 09:20 PM (WXNFJ)

    161 he classic 'Collecting for the Red Cross' is probably my favorite.
    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 09:13 PM (di6C

    Every time I see that scene now all I can think of is the mayor is going to tell Harry that his GPA is 0.0. 😀

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 09:20 PM (inGXk)

    162 Your cat's name is MegaRoy?

    I have so many questions.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 09:20 PM (RIvkX)

    163 Limit the alcohol if you are taking Tylenol though.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 09:22 PM (inGXk)

    164 LOL Aetius!

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:22 PM (tQtDb)

    165 Penguin Facts is the Baghdad Bob of the blog.

    Posted by: Penguin Defense Fund 501c3 at May 03, 2024 09:23 PM (V5BDR)

    166 Have a great night, everyone.

    May you be blessed with unexpected bliss.

    Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2024 09:23 PM (u82oZ)

    167 The Paolo knows, how you say, all about the Tower of Bologna.

    Posted by: Paolo's Press Agent at May 03, 2024 09:25 PM (V5BDR)

    168 Charles Hawtrey was an absolute mess as a person, but was very funny in many of the Carry On films.

    Posted by: Carry On Nurse at May 03, 2024 09:28 PM (V5BDR)

    169 Penguin Facts is the Baghdad Bob of the blog.
    Posted by: Penguin Defense Fund 501c3 at May 03, 2024 09:23 PM


    Gaslighting from a witting or unwitting minion of Big Penguin? Who'd a thunk?

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 09:28 PM (a3Q+t)

    170 & the same to you, NaCly!

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:29 PM (tQtDb)

    171 In The Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain described visiting Madiera and being convinced to take one of those sleds down the mountain, though he described it as going over cobble stones so that was before tarmacadam. He called it exhilarating and compared it to something he had experienced in the west, as he tended to do.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 09:30 PM (D7oie)

    172 163 is spot-on

    liver toxin

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:33 PM (tQtDb)

    173 Night, Salty!

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 09:34 PM (KQxQb)

    174 Mostly Instagrammit again -- skipping makes for fast café consumption.

    Bass too low to play or hear. Genius.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - twittex ftw at May 03, 2024 09:34 PM (RLsaS)

    175 Isn’t Ikezios the Norse god of furniture?

    Posted by: Advo at May 03, 2024 09:37 PM (jO4mz)

    176 I just got an ad for the border patrol. $30k sign on for those who are more age appropriate. I am thinking they aren’t interested in someone almost 53…29.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 09:40 PM (KQxQb)

    177 I like the hobbit hole picture and the penguins diving off the cliff. I saw that video a few weeks ago and meant to bring it to Ace's attention but looks like he found it all by his big boy self. Good man.

    Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe24 registration now open! at May 03, 2024 09:41 PM (bS+DD)

    178 Don't care but Vancouver just broke the scoreless draw with 1:39 left in the period.

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 09:42 PM (UfUdn)

    179 oof

    Bad turnover.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 09:42 PM (LkLld)

    180 the penguins diving off the cliff. I saw that video a few weeks ago and meant to bring it to Ace's attention but looks like he found it all by his big boy self. Good man.
    Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe24 registration now open! at May 03, 2024 09:41 PM


    * cackles approvingly *

    There'll be a little something extra in your next sardine can envelope.

    Posted by: Big Penguin at May 03, 2024 09:44 PM (a3Q+t)

    181 dive

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 09:45 PM (UfUdn)

    182 Can the Predators do it?

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2024 09:46 PM (ufFY8)

    183 One advantage my son has over me is that he can watch hockey in his hospital room. I am in his apartment and I am watching Community. (not the gas leak season)

    We are Avalanche fans.

    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 03, 2024 09:47 PM (gPzkP)

    184 >>> 105 I suspect the penguins in back are pushing the ones in front off the cliff
    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 08:25 PM (fwDg9)

    Guido penguins saying 'fck you, you should have paid me'?

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 03, 2024 09:48 PM (llON8)

    185 Vancouver moved on to the next round …

    Yawn

    Posted by: browndog is no longer a Knight Who Says Ni at May 03, 2024 09:48 PM (TTAGa)

    186 182 Can the Predators do it?

    Not Kreskin; just on an earlier feed than U.S. TV

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 09:48 PM (UfUdn)

    187 Wow. Predators had FOUR good chances in the 6 on 4 final 33 seconds.

    And they blew it.

    Canucks advance.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2024 09:48 PM (ufFY8)

    188 Doh!

    I missed the "No" in #186!

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 09:49 PM (UfUdn)

    189 We are Avalanche fans.
    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 03, 2024 09:47 PM (gPzkP)

    So sad for you.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Nominally a Red Wings fan at May 03, 2024 09:50 PM (ufFY8)

    190 >Mark Hamill brings The Force to today's White House press briefing, calling President Biden "Joe-bi Wan Kenobi"

    He is killing the franchise harder than Mister Plinckett.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 09:50 PM (lhenN)

    191 Best tradition in sports.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 09:51 PM (LkLld)

    192 Best tradition in sports.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 09:51 PM (LkLld)

    Yup.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Nominally a Red Wings fan at May 03, 2024 09:51 PM (ufFY8)

    193 Octobass >> Octomom

    Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 03, 2024 09:54 PM (ufFY8)

    194 Isn’t Ikezios the Norse god of furniture?
    Posted by: Advo at May 03, 2024 09:37 PM (jO4mz)


    No, you are thinking of Idunn, and her golden hex wrenches.

    Having the correct sized hex wrench from Idunn makes you age less, you know.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 09:54 PM (D7oie)

    195 >Mark Hamill brings The Force to today's White House press briefing, calling President Biden "Joe-bi Wan Kenobi"

    He is killing the franchise harder than Mister Plinckett.
    Posted by: BourbonChicken

    It was a mistake to give him lines again.

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 09:55 PM (VNX3d)

    196 It was a mistake to give him lines again.
    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 09:55 PM (VNX3d)


    He was better as Arthur Pymm.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 09:56 PM (D7oie)

    197 Have to admit, I thought the Stars were done after losing the first two at home. Now they have a chance to close out Vegas.

    STARS!!!

    Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 03, 2024 09:57 PM (u73oe)

    198 President Biden "Joe-bi Wan Kenobi"

    I envision a scene where he mutters "What have I done?", keels over onto the dynamite plunger, and blows up the Democrat Party.

    Posted by: Bridge On The River Queer at May 03, 2024 09:58 PM (ufFY8)

    199 Mark Hamill is a fucking dickweed. Gawd I hate him.

    Posted by: Pug Mahon, Live from Missoula at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (gPzkP)

    200 "Mark Hamill brings The Force to today's White House press briefing, calling President Biden "Joe-bi Wan Kenobi"

    Pathetic.

    Posted by: Retief at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (s7AMs)

    201 Pretty sure that several of those Penguins wer *shoved* off of the cliff.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (XeU6L)

    202 @198, LOL, & from your lips to His ears!

    Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (tQtDb)

    203 200 "Mark Hamill brings The Force to today's White House press briefing, calling President Biden "Joe-bi Wan Kenobi"

    Pathetic.
    Posted by: Retief at May 03, 2024 09:59 PM (s7AMs)

    The sad part is, they probably did not even have to pay him- he's that retarded without prompting.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:02 PM (di6C2)

    204 Nood. ONT.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 10:13 PM (di6C2)

    CIA Operative Brags: We Hid Information From the Commander-in-Chief All the Time

    Another O'Keefe sting.

    A video posted on social media by James O'Keefe features Amjad Anton Fseisi, purported to be the project manager for cyber operations at the CIA. In the video, the undercover reporter for O'Keefe Media Group gets Fseisi to admit that several intelligence agencies deliberately withheld information from Trump out of some absurd fear that he might "disclose it." Fseisi is seen in the recording admitting that intelligence agencies "all got together and said, 'We're not gonna tell Trump.'"

    "The executive staff," Fseisi said in response to a question about who specifically was involved in the decision.

    "We're talking about the director and his subordinates." That would include Pompeo and Haspel.

    According to Fseisi, the intelligence agencies "kept information from [Trump] because we knew he'd f***ing disclose it."

    "There are certain people that would... give him a high-level overview but never give him any details. You know why? Because he'll leak those details."

    And can you guess why Fseisi says Trump would leak sensitive information? Because Trump is... wait for it... a Russian asset!

    "He's a Russian asset," Fseisi claimed. "He's owned by the f***ing Russians."

    But there's more.

    "Amjad reveals to OMG's Undercover American Swiper that intel agencies not only kept intelligence information from a sitting United States President and Commander-In-Chief, they also used FISA to spy on [Donald Trump]," O'Keefe says on X/Twitter. "And his team and [sic] are still monitoring President Trump according to Amjad who says, 'We monitor everything.' Amjad adds 'we also have people that monitor his ex-wife. He likes to use burner phones' -- information only an insider with access to highly sensitive information would state."

    ...

    When O'Keefe confronted Fseisi on the streets of Washington, D.C., he denied making the statements in the above video.

    Video at the link.



    Rep. Matt Gaetz
    @RepMattGaetz

    BREAKING: I'm formally calling on the @Weaponization Subcommittee to immediately launch an investigation into @OKeefeMedia Group's bombshell report containing video evidence that American intelligence agencies withheld intelligence from President Donald Trump before & during his presidency and used Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) authorities to spy on President Trump.

    Here's an interesting and troubling fact: so-called "recovering FBI agent" Kyle Seraphim chose this moment, just as O'Keefe was readying this report, to make an insane and likely defamatory attack on O'Keefe:

    As Viva Frei says, maybe this "recovering FBI agent" fell off the wagon.

    He also had an insane attack on O'Keefe -- who's a single man -- for flirting in DMs with a woman he seemed to be having sex with.

    Seraphin was scandalized that O'Keefe might be putting his pee-pee inside a woman he wasn't married to. Therefore we should #cancel him from the movement (just as he was working on this CIA story, which Seraphin is scrambling to debunk).

    I just can't take these sanctimonious bitches who are more screechy about "harming women" than any feminist.

    What's his motive? I don't know, but Seraphin sure is spinning like a top on behalf of the CIA.

    Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:40 PM




    Comments

    (Jump to bottom of comments)

    1 Whut?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:44 PM (XeU6L)

    2 Seraphin was scandalized that O'Keefe might be putting his pee-pee inside a woman he wasn't married to. Therefore we should #cancel him from the movement (just as he was working on this CIA story, which Seraphin is scrambling to debunk)

    They did the same thing with Gaetz - declaring that he was wooing women with no intent to marry them. Can you believe it? BURN THE WITCH!

    Posted by: 18-1 at May 03, 2024 06:44 PM (ibTVg)

    3 Uh-oh.

    Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 03, 2024 06:44 PM (zdLoL)

    4 Gee, a Fed three-letter agency misbehaving? Say it ain't so.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:45 PM (XeU6L)

    5 They did the same thing with Gaetz - declaring that he was wooing women with no intent to marry them. Can you believe it?
    ________________

    (shakes head). What is this world coming to?

    Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 03, 2024 06:45 PM (YqDXo)

    6
    Sure, but they didn't shake fences.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 06:46 PM (RRLgz)

    7 Hola

    Posted by: Thanatopsis at May 03, 2024 06:46 PM (8RNuU)

    8 Consider that in the 80s it was a common theme in movies to have the CIA going after reformist politicians and independent reporters. And this was presented by leftwing hollywood as a bad thing.

    Now they run that same script...but in the real world.

    Posted by: 18-1 at May 03, 2024 06:47 PM (ibTVg)

    9 Seraphin was scandalized that O'Keefe might be putting his pee-pee inside a woman he wasn't married to. Therefore
    -

    I assume this is an attempt to distract from the fact that every single one of these men okeefe gets to talk is a flaming homosexual

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (RRLgz)

    10 I think this whole story is a CIA op.

    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (3CVIc)

    11 And as another point to consider if the CIA is "outing" O'Keefe for liking women...that's as dirty as he gets. They aren't outing him for being an Epstein client or taking bribes...

    Posted by: 18-1 at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (ibTVg)

    12 Huh. Was I the only one who could not connect to the blog for large portions of the day? Surely not.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 06:49 PM (di6C2)

    13 Fuck's aches.

    This really is Soviet America, isn't it?

    Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 03, 2024 06:49 PM (+yhUM)

    14 1950s NatSec: You know being gay is a security risk

    2024: "every single one of these men okeefe gets to talk is a flaming homosexual"

    Posted by: 18-1 at May 03, 2024 06:49 PM (ibTVg)

    15 Probably

    Of course gaetz was damocled by the bureau trying to save bacon of joel greenberg sleazy treasurer of seminole

    Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 03, 2024 06:50 PM (PXvVL)

    16 Now they run that same script...but in the real world. Posted by: 18-1 at May 03, 2024 06:47 PM (ibTVg)

    Where do you think they got the idea?

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 06:50 PM (r5tfK)

    17 The "agent" only confirms what we already know/suspect. Give is confidence that he has the inside scoop and is divulging secret CIA info... then plants this:

    And his team and [sic] are still monitoring President Trump according to Amjad who says, 'We monitor everything.' Amjad adds 'we also have people that monitor his ex-wife. He likes to use burner phones' -- information only an insider with access to highly sensitive information would state."



    See! This ham n egger is spilling CiA secrets and they KNOW trump is a putin asset!!

    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 03, 2024 06:50 PM (3CVIc)

    18 I think this whole story is a CIA op.
    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
    -------

    Wait...what if the seeming CIA op is Rooskie disinformation?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (XeU6L)

    19 You werent the only one

    Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (PXvVL)

    20 I'm genuinely confused how O'Keefe keeps getting them to talk. It's seemed ridiculous from the pimp coat Acorn days.

    Posted by: Flyguy at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (OYxA4)

    21 I think this whole story is a CIA op.
    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM


    I'm sure the Christians In Action would never even think of, much less execute, such a thing.

    You are far too young to be so cynical.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (a3Q+t)

    22 I think most of the people on this blog knew this was happening back when Trump was President.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (QNSds)

    23

    My Ani, They Burn!

    Posted by: The Man With Three Ani at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (aUTNS)

    24 I got blocked by Seraphim last year for calling out his bullshit.

    Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (3CVIc)

    25 Huh. Was I the only one who could not connect to the blog for large portions of the day? Surely not.
    Posted by: Aetius451AD
    ------

    Nope, was Horde-wide blackout. There were fears that it was a mass embarreling.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (XeU6L)

    26 Brennsn actually compromised a long term asset in al queda and he walks on water

    Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (PXvVL)

    27 I'm genuinely confused how O'Keefe keeps getting them to talk. It's seemed ridiculous from the pimp coat Acorn days.

    He uses gay male honeypots, or at least men willing to pretend to be.

    And if he is doing it and getting these results so is every American enemy and rival.

    Posted by: 18-1 at May 03, 2024 06:53 PM (ibTVg)

    28 19 You werent the only one
    Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (PXvVL)

    Ah, good. For some reason. I checked the blackout blog at work and did not see a new post, so I figured it might be somehow regional (even though no other site seemed to have issues.)

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 06:53 PM (di6C2)

    29 Test.

    Posted by: A dude in MI at May 03, 2024 06:53 PM (/6GbT)

    30 It is treason what they did
    And the bastards are proud they did it.

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:53 PM (fwDg9)

    31 >@RepMattGaetz

    BREAKING: I'm formally calling on the @Weaponization Subcommittee to immediately launch an investigation...
    ---


    It will be a letter, strongly-worded, and maybe even fiery

    ✍️

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 06:53 PM (/7KEl)

    32 So…treason?

    Posted by: John McCain at May 03, 2024 06:54 PM (Hkcdp)

    33 I'm genuinely confused how O'Keefe keeps getting them to talk. It's seemed ridiculous from the pimp coat Acorn days.
    Posted by: Flyguy
    --------

    These guys are neither as bright or clever as the movies make out. They do, however have power.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:54 PM (XeU6L)

    34 #HowBoutThoseNorms

    Posted by: John McCain at May 03, 2024 06:54 PM (Hkcdp)

    35 Government of by and for the government

    .

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 06:55 PM (mKjJV)

    36

    AOSHQ is a CIA op!

    Posted by: Paul's Perianal Pustules at May 03, 2024 06:56 PM (aUTNS)

    37
    those expecting CIA guys to lose their jobs over this will be disappointed

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 06:56 PM (/7KEl)

    38 Back in the day, I said that the people (and there were hundreds of them) who were involved in Crossfire Hurricane fell into 4 groups:

    1. The true conspirators -- Strzok, Page, etc., who knew the story was BS

    2. The easily duped -- those who went along because they thought Trump actually was a Russian agent (likely because they were partisan Democrats predisposed to believe what the Democrat line was)

    3. The overly trusting -- those who went along because they trusted their chain of command, which couldn't be wrong, and

    4. The cynical careerists -- those who had enough common sense to see the tory was BS, but went along out of, at first, a belief that Hillary was going to win (which everyone knew) and no one wanted to be on their bad side and, later, out of self-protection.

    It sounds like this guy was Group 2.

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 06:56 PM (r5tfK)

    39 Not sure why this is news. Didn't we learn this in 2017?

    Posted by: Zombie Joe Biden at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (RIvkX)

    40 As I said they are proud of their Coup D'etat, they want you to know their place in it

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (fwDg9)

    41 Off topic but relevant.

    New whistleblower claim.

    >>@alx

    >>“Donald Trump's authority as commander-in-chief was ignored by senior military leadership on January 6, 2021, claims the chief legal advisor for D.C. National Guard on that day… Claims they plotted to balk orders to deploy the National Guard to the Capitol”

    https://tinyurl.com/4m223f8h

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (LkLld)

    42 /zombie FJB sock off

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (RIvkX)

    43 ...Nope, was Horde-wide blackout. There were fears that it was a mass embarreling. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (XeU6L)


    Similar to a post WWII radioactive Japan, I'd be watching for some Moron to emerge from that mass embarraling in the form of a new and heretofore unknown mutant creature.

    Oh, no, Tokyo, there goes.... BLOGZILLA!

    *now, off to work for about a four hour drive*


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (e6UQI)

    44 Wait, this guy has Okeefs private messages? and publishes them?

    The ones that are supposed to be... private, like the name says, and thus with an expectation of privacy, are protected...

    or, at least supposed to be?

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (xaFKb)

    45 There were fears that it was a mass embarreling.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer


    Someone posted something barrel-worthy, while socking the Barrel, and when we tried to put the barrel inside itself the HQ turned inside-out? That makes sense.

    Posted by: mikeski at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (DgGvY)

    46 Not sure why this is news. Didn't we learn this in 2017?
    Posted by: Zombie Joe

    We knew it; but, it had not be confirmed.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (NLF8T)

    47 It's generous of them to confirm it though General Milley announced it years ago that he would check with his bosses in China before acting on Trump's orders.

    Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (unUNN)

    48
    In a letter signed by 51 former intelligence personnel they disclose that O'keefe being involved in heterosexual relationships with women has all the earmarks of him being a Russian asset.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (RKVpM)

    49 Haven't read it all yet, but was this chick an FBI asset sent to infiltrate?

    Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (d0oJa)

    50 I don't know, but Seraphin sure is spinning like a top on behalf of the CIA.

    Maybe that's his assignment.

    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (njExo)

    51 #HowBoutThoseNorms
    Posted by: John McCain
    ------
    Homosexual sex in the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing room is the new norm.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (XeU6L)

    52

    What is country needs is a return to a great quality pink princess phone!

    Posted by: Lance Gay at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (aUTNS)

    53 It sounds like this guy was Group 2.
    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 06:56 PM (r5tfK)

    No, this guys is STILL in group 2... even after all the evidence this was all cooked up by the Clinton Campaign.

    Which means, he's either and idiot, or a True Believer.

    Posted by: Romeo13 at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (xaFKb)

    54 Did he run out of Courvoisier?

    Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (as3uC)

    55 Looks like DOD will have to be another department that will need a thorough clean out after January 20 next year. It would go better for all of them if they just retired and/or resigned.

    Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (unUNN)

    56 I'm genuinely confused how O'Keefe keeps getting them to talk. It's seemed ridiculous from the pimp coat Acorn days.
    Posted by: Flyguy


    From personal experience I can tell you that most leftist/liberals want to publicly share how they are fvcking with conservatives. They are literally eager to tell you how they screwed over republicans and they don't care about any consequences.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (QNSds)

    57 Everyone above Comment #21 is a non-Nooding bastich.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 07:00 PM (a3Q+t)

    58 Those text response was pretty benign, the one who should be embarrassed is the girl. If those were after just a date or two, she seems , as she likes to say, clingy AF.

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 07:00 PM (71y1j)

    59 #HowBoutThoseNorms
    Posted by: John McCain


    Keep my name out of your filthy mouth.

    Posted by: Norm Peterson at May 03, 2024 07:00 PM (DgGvY)

    60 In a letter signed by 51 former intelligence personnel they disclose that O'keefe being involved in heterosexual relationships with women has all the earmarks of him being a Russian asset.
    Posted by: Divide by Zero
    ----

    For them, such relationships probably seem foreign.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 07:00 PM (XeU6L)

    61 48
    In a letter signed by 51 former intelligence personnel they disclose that O'keefe being involved in heterosexual relationships with women has all the earmarks of him being a Russian asset.
    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:58 PM (RKVpM)

    Yup... got the memo awhile back... Only LGBTEIEIooooo are true Americans.

    Heteros are all Commies now.

    Posted by: Bob... NSA at May 03, 2024 07:01 PM (xaFKb)

    62 Earlier when the site was gone, I thought the CIA or the FBI had arrested ace.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 07:02 PM (NpAcC)

    63 Someone posted something barrel-worthy, while socking the Barrel, and when we tried to put the barrel inside itself the HQ turned inside-out? That makes sense.
    Posted by: mikeski
    -----

    Space-time continuum disrupted.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 07:02 PM (XeU6L)

    64 The ones that are supposed to be... private, like the name says, and thus with an expectation of privacy, are protected... or, at least supposed to be? Posted by: Romeo13 at May 03, 2024 06:57 PM (xaFKb)

    2 people on those DM's, one of whom wasn't O'Keefe. Does the other one really exist?

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 07:02 PM (r5tfK)

    65 We just need better candidates.

    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 07:03 PM (lX8VI)

    66 What's his motive? I don't know, but Seraphin sure is spinning like a top on behalf of the CIA.

    -----------------

    Another one working for the CIA? Why not, if Gloria Steinem can be a CIA operative, anyone can.

    Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2024 07:03 PM (unUNN)

    67 I saw Bacon of Joel open for Anal Pustules at the Roxy in 1981.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 07:04 PM (w6EFb)

    68 From personal experience I can tell you that most leftist/liberals want to publicly share how they are fvcking with conservatives. They are literally eager to tell you how they screwed over republicans and they don't care about any consequences. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 06:59 PM (QNSds)

    Plus, they don't encounter anyone conservative in their daily lives, so they just assume that the person they're talking to shares their worldview.

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 07:04 PM (r5tfK)

    69 Stop me if you have heard this one before, "Do me a favor." I thought so.

    Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 03, 2024 07:04 PM (as3uC)

    70 BREAKING: A Google Drive containing 200+ pro-terror and how-to documents is being circulated among encampment organizers.

    https://tinyurl.com/5yzkw9kn

    Posted by: Ciampino - Bacon bits for the win? at May 03, 2024 07:05 PM (qfLjt)

    71 Space-time continuum disrupted. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 07:02 PM (XeU6L)

    Did anyone check the dates and times on the posts?

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 07:05 PM (r5tfK)

    72 Earlier when the site was gone, I thought the CIA or the FBI had arrested ace.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 07:02 PM (NpAcC)

    I would sell my 1 oz silver Chupacabra to contribute to his GoFundMe.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 07:05 PM (w6EFb)

    73 Part 2: When your employees are required to comb through your Direct Messages, they might avoid your "girlfriend" and the explicit messages between "two consenting adults."

    ----------------

    They must be horrified that O'Keefe likes women, in their universe it's all gays and transgenders.

    Posted by: Decaf at May 03, 2024 07:05 PM (unUNN)

    74 Whats the problem? "Disinformation," is in the nic.

    Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 03, 2024 07:05 PM (as3uC)

    75 It's astonishing Trump accomplished anything.

    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 07:06 PM (lX8VI)

    76 Plus, they don't encounter anyone conservative in their daily lives, so they just assume that the person they're talking to shares their worldview.

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 07:04 PM (r5tfK)

    This is amazing and true.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 07:07 PM (w6EFb)

    77 The site being down was a test of the MAD, Moron Activation Deployment system. It was just a test.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:07 PM (mKjJV)

    78 Eye roll. Everybody adds the time zone to phone calls.

    Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 03, 2024 07:07 PM (as3uC)

    79 It's astonishing Trump accomplished anything.
    Posted by: ...
    --------
    Alligator-filled swamp.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 07:08 PM (XeU6L)

    80 I'm genuinely confused how O'Keefe keeps getting them to talk. It's seemed ridiculous from the pimp coat Acorn days.
    Posted by: Flyguy

    -

    Unattractive perverts who think they might have an opportunity to eat the other mans feces.

    There aren't really that many unknowns in the pool, so when they meet a "fresh" opportunity they do their best to impress.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:08 PM (IF3vp)

    81 Moron Activation Deployment system. It was just a test.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:07 PM (mKjJV)

    I planted some seeds, does that count?

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 07:09 PM (w6EFb)

    82 77 The site being down was a test of the MAD, Moron Activation Deployment system. It was just a test.
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:07 PM (mKjJV)

    Nah, MAD is now Moron Assured Destruction...

    It's this button... right he......

    Posted by: Bob... NSA at May 03, 2024 07:09 PM (xaFKb)

    83 It was down at 4am for a half hour

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 07:09 PM (fwDg9)

    84 Is everyone associated with the government a sex crazed pervert?

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:10 PM (V1S1H)

    85 Plus, they don't encounter anyone conservative in their daily lives, so they just assume that the person they're talking to shares their worldview.

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 07:04 PM (r5tfK)

    Not only that but they think conservatives are the angry unhinged racist caricature, so when they meet the average conservative, they have no idea they're talking to one.

    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 07:10 PM (lX8VI)

    86
    This is why section 702 needs to be extended. It is clearly written in the Bible which acts of fornication are allowed.

    If O'Keefe spills his seed on the ground he must be stoned to death.

    Posted by: Mike's Johnson at May 03, 2024 07:10 PM (RKVpM)

    87 OT: but Helldivers seems to have decided they did not like all that money. Huh.

    Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 03, 2024 07:10 PM (di6C2)

    88 CNotR.

    Nobody at any level has ever really believed that Trump was a Russian spy. It's just a thing to say to facilitate the coup.

    Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at May 03, 2024 07:11 PM (k2pTk)

    89 I forgot about the barrel...

    Posted by: Max Power at May 03, 2024 07:11 PM (q177U)

    90 Abolish The CIA.

    No one would miss them.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 03, 2024 07:11 PM (R/m4+)

    91 Amjad Anton Fseisi
    ......

    French Arab?

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:12 PM (v0R5T)

    92 Miley, it certainly does. Whole Lotta people were pounding on a f5 key

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:12 PM (mKjJV)

    93 Fuck Seraphin. He's always seemed like a puppet and he gained way too much cachet way too quickly to be anything other than Yet Another Op.

    Anyone who has ever worked in or directly with this government in the last 20 years is to be trusted less than a rattlesnake. Believe their bullshit at your own peril.

    Posted by: ballistic at May 03, 2024 07:13 PM (oqH4h)

    94 Seraphin is jealous woman actually find O'Keefe attractive.

    The Junta is staffed through and through with mean girls. Why should Seraphin be any different/

    Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 03, 2024 07:14 PM (tT6L1)

    95 Hung and fed to crows and buzzards.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2024 07:14 PM (ENQN6)

    96 My black MAGA hat arrived! Got it thru WinRed, so,

    Posted by: Jamaica at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (IG7T0)

    97 I'm genuinely confused how O'Keefe keeps getting them to talk. It's seemed ridiculous from the pimp coat Acorn days.
    Posted by: Flyguy at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (OYxA4)

    Government layabouts love, love, love talking about what they did to who and what for and how important they be and blah blah blah.

    It's not hard to get them to talk. It's hard to get them to shut the fuck up.

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (R/m4+)

    98 They omitted, "What are you wearing?"

    Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (as3uC)

    99 The CIA only seems to exist to ask other governments to spy on Americans.

    if they've done anything useful in the last decade or two, I'd like to hear about it.

    Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (tT6L1)

    100 Is everyone associated with the government a sex crazed pervert?
    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:10 PM (V1S1H)
    ---
    They like to recruit among their own kind. That way they can keep each other in check.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (BpYfr)

    101 Some might call it treason. We call it saving our Democracy.

    Posted by: A lefty nitwit at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (vFG9F)

    102 Not just the intel community but the Pentagon we know hid information from him. Also disobeyed orders.

    Posted by: steevy at May 03, 2024 07:16 PM (FQmDC)

    103 It's astonishing Trump accomplished anything.
    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 07:06 PM (lX8VI)
    .......

    He wouldn't have if they all weren't such lame ass commies.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:16 PM (v0R5T)

    104 So about 7 years ago I had an agent come to my door with the worst fucking sport coat I have ever seen. He was doing background on a friend.

    I just asked him to leave and call the friend and said I am done.

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2024 07:16 PM (ENQN6)

    105 Three bodies found in search for missing Australian surfers Callum and Jake Robinson and their American friend Jack Carter Rhoad in Mexico

    https://mol.im/a/13380935

    Posted by: Ciampino - Drugs & sex is my bet at May 03, 2024 07:16 PM (qfLjt)

    106 Miley, it certainly does. Whole Lotta people were pounding on a f5 key
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:12 PM (mKjJV)
    ---
    We really are crack monkeys when it comes to this blog...

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 07:17 PM (BpYfr)

    107 Government layabouts love, love, love talking about what they did to who and what for and how important they be and blah blah blah.

    It's not hard to get them to talk. It's hard to get them to shut the fuck up.
    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 03, 2024 07:15 PM (R/m4+)
    ---

    So. Much. Truth.

    Having lived in DC as a younger fellow, going to bars is fucking exhausting. All anyone ever wants to talk about is how important their job is and how many REALLY important people they know.

    Posted by: ballistic at May 03, 2024 07:17 PM (oqH4h)

    108 Is everyone associated with the government a sex crazed pervert?
    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:10 PM (V1S1H)
    .......

    They're all ugly, fat and stupid, so they take anything they can get.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:17 PM (v0R5T)

    109 Mexican authorities have located three bodies in an area of northern Mexico where two Australians and one American were reported missing, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the investigation.

    You cannot bring them here
    Without bringing there here

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2024 07:18 PM (ENQN6)

    110 Shipped by Ace Fulfillment

    Posted by: Jamaica at May 03, 2024 07:18 PM (IG7T0)

    111 >>Abolish The CIA.

    >>No one would miss them.

    If you're a conspiracy minded whack job like me you might think the CIA has been running a good part of the world for the last 40+ years.

    I support Trump because he's the first person in all those years to want to do something about it.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 07:18 PM (LkLld)

    112 Three bodies found in search for missing Australian surfers Callum and Jake Robinson and their American friend Jack Carter Rhoad in Mexico

    https://mol.im/a/13380935
    Posted by: Ciampino - Drugs & sex is my bet
    ......

    Zed's dead, baby.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:19 PM (v0R5T)

    113 I think we're all asking the same question:

    Even if Trump does get re-elected, how the hell is he supposed to have an effective term with all the departments filled with quislings?

    Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 03, 2024 07:20 PM (roH4R)

    114 I know someone who is from the DC area. Wife of a Pastor. In talking to her, a couple of things came out:

    One: No matter how bad you think DC is, it's worse

    and

    Two: she thinks demonic activity is running rampant in DC.

    Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 03, 2024 07:20 PM (tT6L1)

    115 If O'Keefe spills his seed on the ground he must be stoned to death.
    Posted by: Mike's Johnson
    -------
    I might have warned about this.

    Posted by: Onan at May 03, 2024 07:20 PM (XeU6L)

    116 As Hicks recounted her experiences, she appeared to get choked up and struggled to hold back tears, prompting the court to take a brief recess.

    cvnt

    Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2024 07:20 PM (ENQN6)

    117 O'Keefe is extremely guilty of having spectacular taste in attractive women. This Kyle twerp is pretty much Sir Lancelot to James's Sir Galahad, saving him from "the peril". But James, whatever he's doing, he's always had women trying to jump him while he's doing it. From the beginning.

    Like a real live Mickey Spillane character resulting from some kind of crazy 1.0 hetero guy per 60 ovulating chicks in the investigative circles he's moving in.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 07:21 PM (Y6IkP)

    118 They don't bother hiding stuff from Joe because he won't remember twenty seconds later.

    Posted by: Pete in Texas at May 03, 2024 07:21 PM (FxW8v)

    119 Oh no. Paris Hilton had kids.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:21 PM (v0R5T)

    120 Two: she thinks demonic activity is running rampant in DC.

    -

    I don't think most humans would be able to the difference between an alien and a demon.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 07:21 PM (IF3vp)

    121 More demorat-fuckery:

    @amuse 1h
    LAWFARE: Multiple Democrats falsely submitted anonymous tips to the FBI that their fellow Americans were at the Capitol on Jan 6th. One Democrat official reported 7 of his colleagues to the FBI. The problem? They weren't there. Someone falsely turned me in too.

    Posted by: weft Carnac at May 03, 2024 07:22 PM (IG4Id)

    122 Did Ike know the C.I.A. was running large scale L.S.D. experiments on unwitting participants in the military, incarcerated in prisons, and golly knows what else? In say, 1952! They’ve been doing super wacky stuff for a long, long time. Mind control, manchurian candidates, hypnosis, synthetic telepathy, occult practices, directed energy weapons. Just the stuff we know about.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 03, 2024 07:22 PM (DPe6y)

    123 I would sell my 1 oz silver Chupacabra to contribute to his GoFundMe.
    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 07:05 PM (w6EFb)
    ******
    I would sell my Rembrandt... If I owned one.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 07:23 PM (NpAcC)

    124 They're all ugly, fat and stupid, so they take anything they can get.
    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:17 PM (v0R5T)

    Actually, so far as he could judge, the majority of people in Airstrip One were small, dark, and ill-favoured. It was curious how that beetle-like type proliferated in the Ministries: little dumpy men, growing stout very early in life, with short legs, swift scuttling movements, and fat inscrutable faces with very small eyes. It was the type that seemed to flourish best under the dominion of the Party.
    The little beetle-like men who scuttle so nimbly through the labyrinthine corridors of Ministries they, too, would never be vaporized. It seemed to him that he knew instinctively who would survive and who would perish: though just what it was that made for survival, it was not easy to say.

    Posted by: 1984 at May 03, 2024 07:23 PM (R/m4+)

    125 Turns out they really were giving .Marvin LSD.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:24 PM (mKjJV)

    126 Mind control, manchurian candidates, hypnosis, synthetic telepathy, occult practices, directed energy weapons. Just the stuff we know about.
    Posted by: Common Tater
    -------

    Wait, 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' wasn't fiction?

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 03, 2024 07:25 PM (XeU6L)

    127
    Oh no. Paris Hilton had kids.
    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:21 PM (v0R5T)


    Is Fetal STD Syndrome a thing?

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 07:25 PM (MoZTd)

    128 TV "programming" was called such because it was intended to be just that.

    Seriously.

    "My programs are on." Uh-huh.

    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 07:28 PM (lX8VI)

    129 Seriously though, James would be the main character in any number of 80s private dick shows. Action, comedy, dorky sidekick, women uncontrollably splooshing themselves around him, opening scene where he's having to answer a phone call in the morning, while the hot chick in bed beside him says, "oh James (pouty face) do stay,... please?"

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 07:28 PM (Y6IkP)

    130 Did Ike know the C.I.A. was running large scale L.S.D. experiments on unwitting participants in the military, incarcerated in prisons, and golly knows what else? In say, 1952! They’ve been doing super wacky stuff for a long, long time. Mind control, manchurian candidates, hypnosis, synthetic telepathy, occult practices, directed energy weapons. Just the stuff we know about.
    Posted by: Common Tater at May 03, 2024 07:22 PM (DPe6y)

    I don't believe he did. He was probably the last man who could have stopped them, and unfortunately by the time he was Prez, he was getting old. And further, as a military man, he believed in the chain of command. He would have been perfectly comfortable with not knowing things happening within his command, as long as he felt confident the people he put in charge of various departments were competent and loyal.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2024 07:28 PM (dGCAG)

    131 125 Turns out they really were giving .Marvin LSD.
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:24 PM (mKjJV)

    Ha! One of our favorite movies.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:29 PM (OX9vb)

    132 Aaaaand my wfh day is done.

    I'm exhausted.

    How y'all did it during the pandemic is beyond me. You're the REAL HEROES.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:29 PM (X0iLW)

    133 >>Did Ike know the C.I.A. was running large scale L.S.D. experiments on unwitting participants in the military, incarcerated in prisons, and golly knows what else? In say, 1952!

    Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, was a participant in Project MKUltra while he was in college at Harvard. They fried his brain.

    The CIA never took credit for that little gem.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 07:30 PM (LkLld)

    134 Dash, hi darlin
    Keeping my fingers crossed for Oct.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:30 PM (mKjJV)

    135
    How y'all did it during the pandemic is beyond me. You're the REAL HEROES.
    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:29 PM (X0iLW)


    Work?

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 07:31 PM (MoZTd)

    136 Nurse, I am beyond delighted with wfh. I just fix my coffee, go upstairs, and do my work all day with nobody bothering me.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:32 PM (OX9vb)

    137 Did Ike know the C.I.A. was running large scale L.S.D. experiments on unwitting participants in the military, incarcerated in prisons, and golly knows what else? In say, 1952!

    Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, was a participant in Project MKUltra while he was in college at Harvard. They fried his brain.

    The CIA never took credit for that little gem.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 07:30 PM


    It wasn't just the cia, the Army was still doing all sorts of off the books experiments on soldiers up until the late 1970s.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 07:32 PM (QNSds)

    138 OK, well, Mr. Dmlw! bothers me frequently, but nobody else bothers me.

    He likes to keep me updated on current events, so I don't really mind.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:32 PM (OX9vb)

    139 Keeping my fingers crossed for Oct.
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:30 PM (mKjJV)

    Same!

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:33 PM (OX9vb)

    140 He looks like a zombie.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 07:33 PM (lCWOD)

    141
    It wasn't just the cia, the Army was still doing all sorts of off the books experiments on soldiers up until the late 1970s.
    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 07:32 PM (QNSds)


    Explains their recent Chiefs of Staff.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 07:34 PM (MoZTd)

    142
    Gotta go feed the little monsters their dinner. They're all skinny and ribs showing and hip bones prominent and they do nothing but eat.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 07:36 PM (MoZTd)

    143 >>> Turns out they really were giving .Marvin LSD.
    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 07:24 PM (mKjJV)

    I had a high school english teacher that was part of the tests. He said he thought at first it was amazing, him and his team were racing through obstacles, scaling massive walls, tearing up test dummies bare-handed. But a recording he saw showed they were mostly rolling around under tables in their own vomit and piss while screaming. That was his don't do drugs kids, mmmmmkay? speech for us.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 07:36 PM (Y6IkP)

    144 The site being down was a test of the MAD, Moron Activation Deployment system. It was just a test.

    Crap. I thought the site down was a GO sign.

    What am I going to do with all of these dead bodies?

    Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 03, 2024 07:36 PM (4HcMG)

    145 Breaking911 @Breaking911 May 2
    BREAKING: Russian troops enter base housing US military in Niger, US official says; US troops told to withdraw - Reuters.

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 07:37 PM (UfUdn)

    146 What am I going to do with all of these dead bodies?
    Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure


    Don't google that.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:37 PM (hUZEZ)

    147 121
    '@amuse 1h
    LAWFARE: Multiple Democrats falsely submitted anonymous tips ... Someone falsely turned me in too."

    It would really amuse me if these democrats were identified somehow and had bad luck.

    Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 03, 2024 07:37 PM (roH4R)

    148 Gotta go feed the little monsters their dinner. They're all skinny and ribs showing and hip bones prominent and they do nothing but eat.
    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 07:36 PM (MoZTd)
    .......

    You really should let them out of the sensory deprivation closet for an hour a day.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:38 PM (v0R5T)

    149 >> But a recording he saw showed they were mostly rolling around under tables in their own vomit and piss while screaming.

    huh. Must have been the brown acid.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 07:38 PM (LkLld)

    150 Aaaaand my wfh day is done.

    I'm exhausted.

    How y'all did it during the pandemic is beyond me. You're the REAL HEROES.
    ---------
    Thanks, nurse.

    Mind you, I was unemployed then so pretty well ordinary days for me.

    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn) at May 03, 2024 07:39 PM (UfUdn)

    151 Ooh, cafe is open.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 07:39 PM (OX9vb)

    152 It wasn't just the cia, the Army was still doing all sorts of off the books experiments on soldiers up until the late 1970s.

    Was there any time in the past century where the Party Military wasn't overtly hostile to We The People and see Americans as anything other than tax mules to underwrite their adventures?

    Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 03, 2024 07:40 PM (4HcMG)

    153 BREAKING: Russian troops enter base housing US military in Niger, US official says; US troops told to withdraw - Reuters.
    Posted by: andycanuck (UfUdn)
    ......

    Niger? Can't wait to heat Mean Uncle Joe talk about this one.
    "N-N-N-... you sure you want me to say this? Pause."

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:41 PM (v0R5T)

    154 What am I going to do with all of these dead bodies?
    Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

    Rule no 1: gain access to backhoe before taking kinetic action.

    Posted by: Sock Monkey * clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right at May 03, 2024 07:41 PM (i7KoL)

    155 Ted was a brilliant math whiz. In those days, 16 year olds don’t get admitted to Harvard physics without some chops.

    Timothy Leary was considered to be a CIA contractor. It is “interesting” to me that after playing around with Acid in the 50s - at first, the intellectual set decided that it should only be available to the “Elite”. It wasn’t yet illegal.

    The Swiss were the only one who knew how to make it, and the CIA wanted to buy the world’s entire stock, in order to avoid it falling into the hands of the Soviets. Within 10 years, it was fueling the 60s Generation, Time-Life Hippies and the rest of it. One huge OP to fry everybody’s brain. Tune in, turn on, drop out, Man! Groovy!

    Chemical warfare. They developed something called BZ. The gubbmint did a lot of nuclear and biological testing on the populace too.

    Posted by: Common Tater at May 03, 2024 07:43 PM (DPe6y)

    156 113 I think we're all asking the same question:

    Even if Trump does get re-elected, how the hell is he supposed to have an effective term with all the departments filled with quislings?

    Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 03, 2024 07:20 PM (roH4R)
    ----
    For every department:
    Fire every
    Director,
    Assistant Director,
    Associate Director,
    Associate Assistant Director

    Put genuine MAGA people in place.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Drugs & sex is my bet ... at May 03, 2024 07:52 PM (qfLjt)

    157 ***Seraphin sure is spinning like a top on behalf of the CIA.***
    ----------------------------

    Protecting our Democracy.

    You can take it either way, injection or pill form.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 07:53 PM (lCWOD)

    158 Wait, his slam against O'Keefe is about how this let's face it very weak 4, is banging a solid 10? If I was James ai would retweet the hell out of this so everyone knows what he's taking home every night, Bravo!

    Posted by: Rbastid at May 03, 2024 07:53 PM (A5uGN)

    159 156
    Forgot, All secretaries and executive assistants need to go too. These, at the very minimum, would leak like sieves.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Drugs & sex is my bet .. at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (qfLjt)

    160 156 113 I think we're all asking the same question:

    Even if Trump does get re-elected, how the hell is he supposed to have an effective term with all the departments filled with quislings?
    ------------------

    It's not like he's dumb or hasn't been preparing for the last four years.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 07:54 PM (lCWOD)

    161 The inner tubes seem very busy today. 'Speedy', my little computer is not getting much purchase.

    Posted by: Braenyard at May 03, 2024 07:56 PM (lCWOD)

    162 Amjad Anton Fseisi
    ......

    French Arab?
    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 07:12 PM (v0R5T)

    Some flavor of Wog, for sure.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2024 07:59 PM (8zz6B)

    163
    How y'all did it during the pandemic is beyond me. You're the REAL HEROES.
    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 07:29 PM (X0iLW)

    I didn't make a single tik tok dance video over the dead bodies of any of my library patrons. I am no hero.


    *Hangs head in shame

    Posted by: Just Lily at May 03, 2024 09:05 PM (RLLZj)

    A Healing Moment: Both Sides, Pro-Terrorist and Anti-Terrorist, Discover They Agree on One Thing

    And that thing is Let's Go Brandon.

    Palestine protestors and counter-protesters at the University of Alabama found a moment of unity in their shared disapproval of President Joe Biden, together chanting "f*** Joe Biden" in a now-viral video.


    A new poll from Rassmussen puts Trump up by 10 in a three way race, 46% to 36%. RFJJr. picks up 9%.

    Trump leads with 18-39-year-olds by two points, 36 to 34 percent.

    Trump earns 21 percent of the black vote, while Biden earns just 61 percent. That number should be closer to 90 percent.

    Only 70 percent of Democrats support Biden. Trump earns 16 percent Democrat support.

    Trump earns 80 percent Republican support. Biden sits at ten percent.

    In a five-way match-up between Trump, Biden, the Green Party's Jill Stein, Kennedy Jr., and former Harvard Professor Cornel West, The Donald's lead jumps to 12 points over Slow Joe, 48 to 36 percent. Kennedy pulls eight percent support. Stein and West top out at a single point.

    In this five-way race, Trump's lead over Biden with Hispanics jumps to 15 points, 45 to 30 percent.

    "Despite being on trial in New York City, former President Donald Trump has widened his lead over President Joe Biden during the past month," says the pollster.


    Related: Karine Jean-Pierre was asked why Biden doesn't speak up about the anti-semitism on college campuses.

    She said that he spoke out about Charlottesville, so he didn't have to call out antisemtism now.

    She's actually claiming that because Biden made an opportunistic political attack on Trump, he doesn't have to call out his own voters' antisemitism.


    is Houck
    @CurtisHouck
    AP's @ZekeJMiller
    : "And then, here at home, there's been some dramatic images really across the country over the last 24-48 hours, especially with the Columbia -- UCLA last night University of Madison, Wisconsin, um other campuses. Has the President been monitoring this and why have we not heard directly from the President about these protests that have taken over its institutions of higher learning across the country, the police responses, instances of violence? Why haven't we heard directly from the President?"

    KJP: "So, just a couple of things. The President is -- is being kept regularly updated on what's happening. Uh, as you just stated, across the country, he is monitoring the situation closely, so is his team. And I would just add that no President -- no president has spoken more forcefully about combating anti-Semitism than this President . Let's not forget in 2017. He was very clear what we saw -- the anti-Semitic vile that we saw in Charlottesville -- on the streets of Charlottesville. He called that out. He called that out. And one of the reasons he stepped into the 2020 election is because of what he saw, -- is because he wanted to -- uh -- he wanted to speak out and speak against what we were seeing in this country at that time -- uh -- democracy was under attack. Our freedoms were under attack, and we're still fighting for that today, obviously, but it -- he hasn't just done that by speaking. As you heard from my topper, he's taken action. He's taken action by moving forward with the first ever U.S. national strategy to counter anti-Semitism, more than 100 new actions -- uh -- have -- were introduced, obviously, in that strategy, and that is how seriously this President takes it. Uh, and I think what's important here is that he's taken action on this issue."

    Very fine people on both sides were chanting, "Fuck Joe Biden."

    Posted by: huerfano

    Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:44 PM




    Comments

    (Jump to bottom of comments)

    1 The fake Charlottesville crap ?

    Posted by: It's me donna at May 03, 2024 05:44 PM (Akjoo)

    2 The pro terrorists will now do a 180 and support Biden. They can’t be seen agreeing with American loving conservatives no matter what .

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (MNhXM)

    3 The first time I agree with on campus whiners.
    FJB.

    Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (NLF8T)

    4 Very fine people on both sides were chanting, "Fuck Joe Biden."

    Posted by: huerfano at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (VGOMa)

    5 "As you heard from my topper ..."

    She's a bottomer?

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (MvF+J)

    6 Charlottesville had nothing to do with Jews and anti semitism. I’m willing to buy a farm to bet the farm that’s Biden didn’t call out anti semitism at the time.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 05:49 PM (MNhXM)

    7 Very fine people on both sides were chanting, "Fuck Joe Biden."

    Posted by: huerfano

    Hah!

    Posted by: ace at May 03, 2024 05:49 PM (KRtlO)

    8 Afternoon.

    Hey, was the blog down earlier or was it just me?

    Posted by: Robert at May 03, 2024 05:49 PM (1Yy3c)

    9 Didn't Trump say there was very fine pussy on both sides?

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 05:50 PM (1bNHn)

    10 We’re Jewish people attempting to tear down statues in Charlottesville?

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 05:50 PM (MNhXM)

    11 Hey, was the blog down earlier or was it just me?
    Posted by: Robert at May 03, 2024 05:49 PM (1Yy3c)

    It was just you... Nah, it was out

    Posted by: It's me donna at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (Akjoo)

    12 It's nice to see the HQ again. It was down while I ate lunch at work and tried to access. Down Dectector listed mu.nu as down all week.

    Posted by: Raphael at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (Vf0uo)

    13 Were = we’re

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (MNhXM)

    14 FUCK JOE BIDEN! YEAH!

    Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (w6EFb)

    15 14 FUCK JOE BIDEN! YEAH!
    Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (w6EFb)

    Metaphorically speaking of course

    Posted by: It's me donna at May 03, 2024 05:52 PM (Akjoo)

    16 I, too, was concerned when the blog was down. No problems elsewhere. So glad all is well again.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:52 PM (w6EFb)

    17 Ace, you should do an entire post with all the Frat boy videos. They are wonderful.
    Here's one

    https://tinyurl.com/ye2amhbj

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 03, 2024 05:52 PM (t/2Uw)

    18 Trump earns 21 percent of the black vote, while Biden earns just 61 percent. That number should be closer to 90 percent.

    All the giveaways in the world won't save you in a "respect culture" when you're the most disrepectable SOB on the planet.

    Posted by: mikeski at May 03, 2024 05:53 PM (DgGvY)

    19 Joe And The Ho Have Got To Go!

    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 03, 2024 05:54 PM (R/m4+)

    20 .._. ._ _ _ _…

    Posted by: Dirac_Delta at May 03, 2024 05:54 PM (JSF6W)

    21 I think each side have different reasons for their Fuck Joe Biden chant.

    Like the Soviet Union and the Western Allies chanting F Adolf Hitler.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 05:55 PM (MNhXM)

    22 It's a wonderful thing when mobs come together!

    Posted by: Weasel at May 03, 2024 05:56 PM (JwHpX)

    23 Things are looking pretty grim out there.

    Probably a good time for a massive tax hike!

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 05:56 PM (q7hip)

    24 FJB

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:56 PM (Ja3qS)

    25 https://tinyurl.com/5n8wz5zb

    And another

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (t/2Uw)

    26 I think each side have different reasons for their Fuck Joe Biden chant.

    Like the Soviet Union and the Western Allies chanting F Adolf Hitler.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 05:55 PM (MNhXM)

    It's complicated.

    Posted by: life at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (w6EFb)

    27 As you heard from my topper, he's taken action.

    Her mop-top can't be any more stupid than she is, and could, with a significant probability, be smarter.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (a3Q+t)

    28 LOL, joe biden can fvck up both sides of any position he takes......

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (QNSds)

    29 19 Joe And The Ho Have Got To Go!
    Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 03, 2024 05:54 PM (R/m4+)

    Ho Ho, Ho ho. Joe and the Ho have to go


    Free America now Free America now

    From the River to the sea Joe and the Ho must flee

    One Nation solution

    Posted by: It's me donna at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (Akjoo)

    30 Joe Biden, The Great Healer.

    Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (q7hip)

    31 And another

    https://tinyurl.com/4xpc2faw

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 03, 2024 05:59 PM (t/2Uw)

    32 Fuck Joe Biden, the Great United.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2024 05:59 PM (ufFY8)

    33 Very fine people on both sides were chanting, "Fuck Joe Biden."
    Posted by: huerfano
    -

    Oh, very well done.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 06:00 PM (RRLgz)

    34 Well, Roll Tide = FJB
    Even Auburn folks can agree with that!

    Posted by: Tom22ndState at May 03, 2024 06:01 PM (clIIx)

    35 His butt got wiped, you know. By Corn Pop.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 06:01 PM (w6EFb)

    36 This is NOT what we meant by 'unity'!!!

    Posted by: WEFtard CEOs at May 03, 2024 06:01 PM (llON8)

    37 The Great Uniter!

    Fuck Joe Autocorrect.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2024 06:02 PM (ufFY8)

    38 This is what I was saying. We never hear about disunity in the Democrat base for obvious reasons but it's YUGE and growing.

    The Democrat base is a collection of broken toys that don't agree on much other than they want Uncle Sugar to give them stuff. But that's about it. Now the cracks are starting to show thanks to Joe's idiotic policies and now they agree on something else, they really hate Joe.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:02 PM (LkLld)

    39 .._. ._ _ _ _…
    Posted by: Dirac_Delta at May 03, 2024 05:54 PM


    Edited for clarity

    Posted by: Ralphie at May 03, 2024 06:03 PM (a3Q+t)

    40 I'm sure his handlers are sheltering him from such behavior.

    If Joe saw this I think he would probably get really pissed but forget about it tomorrow.

    "I remember those youths shouting my name!"

    Posted by: pawn at May 03, 2024 06:04 PM (QB+5g)

    41
    Now the cracks are starting to show thanks to Joe's idiotic policies and now they agree on something else, they really hate Joe.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:02 PM (LkLld)

    ________

    Instead of mailing in 10 ballots for him, they'll only mail in 5!

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 06:04 PM (MoZTd)

    42 The Left are united based solely on their hatred of the Right and America.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:04 PM (MNhXM)

    43 Huerfano nailed it.

    They seem to disagree on just about everything...but they REALLY like that Brandon guy.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:04 PM (SVfFu)

    44 The Democrat base is a collection of broken toys that don't agree on much other than they want Uncle Sugar to give them stuff.

    The Island of Misfit Soys.

    Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2024 06:05 PM (ufFY8)

    45 It must suck to be KJP and have to spout such mendacious lies on a daily basis.

    Her soul is as shriveled as a raisin.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:05 PM (BpYfr)

    46 I have a brain freeze. What was the phrase the reporter said the crowd was saying instead of Fuck Joe Biden?

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (MNhXM)

    47 Does Joe know how many people hold him in complete contempt, or is he oblivious?

    Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (JLq/1)

    48 Let's go Brandon!

    Posted by: nckate at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (4bYb7)

    49 >>The Island of Misfit Soys.



    Damn. Comments are on fire.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (SVfFu)

    50 "Fuck Joe Biden" a brief history via Wiki:
    __________

    On October 2, 2021, racing driver Brandon Brown was being interviewed by NBC Sports reporter Kelli Stavast at the Talladega Superspeedway in Alabama, following his victory in the NASCAR Xfinity Series 2021 Sparks 300 race which was shortened due to darkness. Fans were chanting "Fuck Joe Biden",and this became audible to viewers of the broadcast. On the live broadcast, while wearing a headset reporter Stavast stated, "You can hear the chants from the crowd, 'Let's go, Brandon!'" As of December 2023, Stavast has not clarified whether she misunderstood the chant or whether she intentionally misquoted it. A reporter with the Associated Press said that the chant was "at first difficult to make out".

    The more you know.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (Q4IgG)

    51 Hiya

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (T4tVD)

    52 Fake (X)
    Ghey. (X)

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (o2ZRX)

    53
    Her soul is as shriveled as a raisin.
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:05 PM (BpYfr)

    __________

    And Heaven knows raisins are the fruit of Satan.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (MoZTd)

    54 Her soul is as shriveled as a raisin.
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:05 PM (BpYfr)

    Or does it explode?

    Posted by: Langston Hughes at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (ufFY8)

    55 Does Joe know how many people hold him in complete contempt, or is he oblivious?
    Posted by: Northernlurker at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (JLq/1)
    ---
    You have to wonder if FJB is given any accurate polling data at all.

    His mind is so far gone at this point he probably thinks he's even more wonderful than his predecessor Chocolate Jesus.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (BpYfr)

    56 Erev Tov Patriots

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (SHAib)

    57 Biden was just complaing this past week about 7 year olds, in the heartlands, giving him the finger.

    They aren't hiding this from him.

    People hate his fucking guts and he knows it.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (SVfFu)

    58 Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:07 PM (Q4IgG

    You read my mind. Thanks.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (MNhXM)

    59 I heard a good quip on the radio today, can't credit as I didn't catch who said it. Something like ...

    This is the first election that both candidates have been ordered not to speak in public.

    Posted by: old chick at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (F3Dlr)

    60 I have a brain freeze. What was the phrase the reporter said the crowd was saying instead of Fuck Joe Biden?
    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (MNhXM)
    ---
    BOO-URNS!

    Posted by: Waylan Smithers at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (BpYfr)

    61
    Palestine protestors and counter-protesters at the University of Alabama found a moment of unity in their shared disapproval of President Joe Biden, together chanting "f*** Joe Biden" in a now-viral video.

    Campaign promise of Joe to 'unite' the nation status?

    ☑ Acheived

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:09 PM (RKVpM)

    62 Rachel "Madcow" Maddox says Colin Allred is Ted Cruz's worst nightmare.

    I think Chuy would be his worst nightmare.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 06:09 PM (a3Q+t)

    63 45 It must suck to be KJP and have to spout such mendacious lies on a daily basis.

    Her soul is as shriveled as a raisin.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:05 PM (BpYfr)
    ----
    You know what else she's got that is shriveled?

    Posted by: Ciampino - Hey lady the Internet is forever at May 03, 2024 06:09 PM (qfLjt)

    64 57 Biden was just complaing this past week about 7 year olds, in the heartlands, giving him the finger.

    They aren't hiding this from him.

    People hate his fucking guts and he knows it.
    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:08 PM (SVfFu)
    ______
    Joe insists he's the one who should be fingering them.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:09 PM (1bNHn)

    65
    Dear me, some places north of Houston have gotten over 20 inches of rain over the last few days. We've scarcely had anything here.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 06:10 PM (MoZTd)

    66 Rachel "Madcow" Maddox says Colin Allred is Ted Cruz's worst nightmare.

    I think Chuy would be his worst nightmare.
    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 06:09 PM (a3Q+t)

    My worst nightmare is asleep in the WH

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2024 06:10 PM (SHAib)

    67 45 It must suck to be KJP and have to spout such mendacious lies on a daily basis.

    Her soul is as shriveled as a raisin.
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:05 PM (BpYfr)

    We disavow any connection to her WHATSO EVER ...

    Big Raisin has, and always will back The Donald !!!

    Posted by: Big Raisin at May 03, 2024 06:10 PM (TTAGa)

    68 Does Joe know how many people hold him in complete contempt, or is he oblivious?
    Posted by: Northernlurker


    Have you seen his sneer? Our helplessness is part of his kink…

    Posted by: Adriane the Gas Station Sushi Critic . . . at May 03, 2024 06:10 PM (4Winp)

    69 Biden actually makes me realize the virtues of Carter and Clinton.

    Note I didn't say Obama.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:11 PM (1bNHn)

    70
    Rachel "Madcow" Maddox says Colin Allred is Ted Cruz's worst nightmare.

    _________

    The only thing the guy talks about is abortion abortion abortion.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 06:11 PM (MoZTd)

    71 Jim Hanson
    The end of toxic emasculation
    https://tinyurl.com/mw9y4tpn

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 03, 2024 06:12 PM (t/2Uw)

    72 And we know that the enemedia is going to get to the bottom of this and find out the names of the pro-Israel students that were chanting. Obviously, the pro-terrorist side was forced to join in because the opposition threatened their lives if they didn't.

    Posted by: NR Pax at May 03, 2024 06:12 PM (Ujnjg)

    73 A new poll from Rassmussen puts Trump up by 10 in a three way race, 46% to 36%. RFJJr. picks up 9%.
    ______
    OTOH, I don't really believe that.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:13 PM (1bNHn)

    74 Hiya Cap'n !

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 06:14 PM (T4tVD)

    75 Afternoon.

    Hey, was the blog down earlier or was it just me?
    Posted by: Robert at May 03, 2024 05:49 PM (1Yy3c)

    It was just me.

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 06:15 PM (T4tVD)

    76 Usually stuff like this blows over.

    Fuck Joe Biden / Let's Go Brandon / FJB has legs far beyond most other phenomenon.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:15 PM (SVfFu)

    77 Jim Hanson
    The end of toxic emasculation
    https://tinyurl.com/mw9y4tpn

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 03, 2024 06:12 PM (t/2Uw)
    ---
    Needs more Muppets!

    Posted by: Waylan Smithers at May 03, 2024 06:15 PM (BpYfr)

    78 It's not only that he made an attack on his opponent so he doesn't have to speak out, it's that they're actually trying to turn this into an attack on his opponent. Unreal.

    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 06:15 PM (lX8VI)

    79 It ain't warm out thar.

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 06:15 PM (T4tVD)

    80 If Cruz loses I will be making some big decisions.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:15 PM (MNhXM)

    81 It must suck to be KJP and have to spout such mendacious lies on a daily basis.

    -

    It would be interesting to know if she is aware of how bad she is at her job or if she thinks she's the best that has ever done it.

    I'm betting the latter.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 06:16 PM (IF3vp)

    82 KJP is has won the Indecipherable Talking Points Mash-Up Category for two years in a row in the Annual Press Flack World Championships.

    Posted by: Gref at May 03, 2024 06:16 PM (5fDan)

    83 By any rights the Marxists should get slaughter, even with the entire Democrats Propaganda Ministry on their side

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:16 PM (fwDg9)

    84 Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a Harvard academic and writer, suggests there's another reason for Trump's drowsy demeanor.

    "Given his emotional fragility, he is likely falling into a dissociative state to avoid the pain of facing intolerable facts about Ihimself," she shared with Daily Express US. "His unusual behavior can be interpreted as frantic efforts to escape his own sense of inadequacy and worthlessness, and here he is trapped."
    ---
    The left just never ceases to amaze with the depths of asinine stupidity they will plumb to sate their Trump hate.

    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:17 PM (txAno)

    85 It would be interesting to know which 20 something intern puts together the briefing book for KJP. It is hard to believe that there are that many completely clueless people workiing int he White House.

    Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 03, 2024 06:17 PM (t/2Uw)

    86 It's not hard to agree on what is manifestly true.

    Joe Biden sucks.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:18 PM (RIvkX)

    87
    A new poll from Rassmussen puts Trump up by 10 in a three way race, 46% to 36%. RFJJr. picks up 9%.
    ______
    OTOH, I don't really believe that.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:13 PM


    Read the 1980 Wiki on Carter vs Reagan with John Anderson in the mix. Those numbers you listed are virtually the exact same.

    A certain fixed percentage of (I)'s and (D)'s threw a 'protest vote' at at Anderson and screwed Carter. History...

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:18 PM (RKVpM)

    88 >>Instead of mailing in 10 ballots for him, they'll only mail in 5!

    Have you seen any of the videos coming out of meetings the residents in places like Chicago and NYC are having with their elected leaders? Seems they aren't real happy with the new comers getting all of their stuff. And then there are the not so small mattesr of inflation and crime.

    Saw one very fiesty black woman from Chicago who was venting her anger in an interview. She was pretty articulate. She didn't come right out and say "This is MAGA country!" but the Make America Great Again cap she was sporting kind of spoke for her.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:18 PM (LkLld)

    89 I personally cannot wait for KJP to go into the real world and get a job. Everyone will be like "Why did we hire you and not be able to get rid of her." It will be like Don Lemon. "You take her, No You take her."
    Comedy Gold

    Posted by: Picric at May 03, 2024 06:19 PM (13tTk)

    90 r. Bandy X. Lee, a Harvard academic and writer, suggests there's another reason for Trump's drowsy demeanor.

    "Given his emotional fragility, he is likely falling into a dissociative state to avoid the pain of facing intolerable facts about Ihimself," she shared with Daily Express US. "His unusual behavior can be interpreted as frantic efforts to escape his own sense of inadequacy and worthlessness, and here he is trapped."
    ---
    The left just never ceases to amaze with the depths of asinine stupidity they will plumb to sate their Trump hate.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:17 PM (txAno)

    Just the usual Leftist projection. Though it’s become more ludicrous lately.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:20 PM (MNhXM)

    91 American troops in Niger have declared “increased readiness” due to the deployment of Russian specialists at the same base as them, the African country’s security forces reported.

    AMERICA IS BACK, BABY!

    Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at May 03, 2024 06:20 PM (uxCna)

    92 I personally cannot wait for KJP to go into the real world and get a job. Everyone will be like "Why did we hire you and not be able to get rid of her." It will be like Don Lemon. "You take her, No You take her."
    Comedy Gold
    Posted by: Picric at May 03, 2024 06:19 PM (13tTk)



    She has MSNBC written all over her, Unless don lemon starts his own network

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2024 06:20 PM (SHAib)

    93 Chances are any hostages even if alive will be total mentally wrecks.
    I have doubts only a few ate left

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:20 PM (fwDg9)

    94 That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?

    Here it is under construction...

    https://tinyurl.com/mpw554kp

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:21 PM (Q4IgG)

    95 American troops in Niger have declared “increased readiness” due to the deployment of Russian specialists at the same base as them, the African country’s security forces reported.


    I wonder if the Ruskies brought any Vodka and Caviar? And russian women also. Oh how I love em them russian women

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2024 06:22 PM (SHAib)

    96
    Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a Harvard academic and writer, suggests there's another reason for Trump's drowsy demeanor.

    _________

    Never trust anyone with an X in his name.

    Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2024 06:22 PM (MoZTd)

    97 It's not hard to agree on what is manifestly true.

    Joe Biden sucks.
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:18 PM (RIvkX)

    I know what you're saying here but I think these days it's pretty freakin difficult to agree on what is manifestly true!

    Posted by: ... at May 03, 2024 06:23 PM (lX8VI)

    98 94 That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?

    Here it is under construction...

    https://tinyurl.com/mpw554kp
    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:21 PM (Q4IgG)
    _______
    Well, "severe weather conditions" destroyed our Mulberry in 1944.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:23 PM (1bNHn)

    99 That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?

    Here it is under construction...

    https://tinyurl.com/mpw554kp
    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:21 PM (Q4IgG)

    I read that because of weather, it was turned over to the Israelis and towed in port at Ashdot

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2024 06:23 PM (SHAib)

    100 The left just never ceases to amaze with the depths of asinine stupidity they will plumb to sate their Trump hate.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:17 PM (txAno)
    ====
    Asinine stupidity, or slavish devotion?

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:23 PM (RIvkX)

    101 Are

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:24 PM (fwDg9)

    102 I will never forgive Corn Pop for wimping out at the last moment.

    Posted by: Paco at May 03, 2024 06:24 PM (njExo)

    103 Are are troops still surrounded and starving in Sudan?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 06:24 PM (mKjJV)

    104 She has MSNBC written all over her, Unless don lemon starts his own network
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2024 06:20 PM (SHAib)

    She cannot even formulate and deliver one remark in sensible English. Talking is not her strong suit.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 06:24 PM (jpjFa)

    105 >>I read that because of weather, it was turned over to the Israelis and towed in port at Ashdot


    Due to Weather...

    and we know who controls the weather.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:24 PM (SVfFu)

    106 Sundowner administration will be suppy Hamas as soon as its finished

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:25 PM (fwDg9)

    107 American troops in Niger have declared “increased readiness” due to the deployment of Russian specialists at the same base as them, the African country’s security forces reported.

    Let me be clear. Pause. Dot Dot Dot. Look right and look left. I pause as your president look right look left am not about to send American boys pause for effect 9 or 10,000 miles away from home to do what Niger boys ought to be doing for themselves. Pause. Step back. Exit To the Right.

    Posted by: Joe Biden, Teleprompter King at May 03, 2024 06:25 PM (R/m4+)

    108 Bandy X Lee sounds like a stripper.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:25 PM (1bNHn)

    109 Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a Harvard academic and writer,

    Well, if she's from Harvard...LOL

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:25 PM (XkYcA)

    110
    That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?

    I'd give them a dozen freshly creosoted posts and some 2 X 6 lengths of pressure treated lumber and a bag of 16 penny nails and only charge $275 million.

    We need to return to free market solutions.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:26 PM (RKVpM)

    111 We don't pay you two sides to agree with each other, for crying out loud!

    Posted by: The Deep State at May 03, 2024 06:26 PM (qL8Uu)

    112 American troops in Niger have declared “increased readiness” due to the deployment of Russian specialists at the same base as them, the African country’s security forces reported.

    AMERICA IS BACK, BABY!
    Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at May 03, 2024 06:20 PM (uxCna)

    I would have our troops withdrawn and the base would be leveled an hour later.. of course Biden has showed they will do the opposite. I wonder how much equipment they will leave behind this time.

    As an aside that’s what I would have done with the equipment we left behind in Afghanistan. I would have had it all gathered up into groups , the number depending on logistics and they would have all been target practice.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:27 PM (MNhXM)

    113 "what Niger boys ought to be doing for themselves."
    ______
    They wouldn't dare have Brandon read that.

    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:27 PM (1bNHn)

    114 Here it is under construction...

    https://tinyurl.com/mpw554kp
    ====
    Ok now that I have seen it, what the f*ck are these people thinking? What insanity is this?

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:27 PM (RIvkX)

    115 The left just never ceases to amaze with the depths of asinine stupidity they will plumb to sate their Trump hate.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:17 PM (txAno)

    Fragility? The guy delivering pizza to NYFD didn't appear fragile at all.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 06:27 PM (jpjFa)

    116 The thing about that pier... it was reportedly going to be "permanent."

    That ain't it.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:28 PM (Q4IgG)

    117 BREAKING: Students at Princeton are going on a hunger strike until the college board meets their demands.

    https://tinyurl.com/33wwbwkp

    Bwah Ha Ha Ha!
    Send in ham and bacon sandwiches after 10 hours or so.

    Posted by: Ciampino - Bacon bits for the win at May 03, 2024 06:29 PM (qfLjt)

    118 You have to wonder if FJB is given any accurate polling data at all.
    ---
    Given that both Nicolae and Elena have snapped at reporters silly enough to question them, both with the insane assertion that the questioner must be looking at the wrong polls :

    No, no one near the Biden's dare give them accurate polls

    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:30 PM (txAno)

    119 ...they are planning to Complete the Construction of the Dock as well as the 5-Mile Temporary Floating Causeway that will Connect to the Shore.
    ------
    WTF?!

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 03, 2024 06:30 PM (50n2b)

    120 28 days until the start of Pride Month 2024!

    It's time to refresh your decorations, folks! Don't be caught unaware, and lose fabulousness points.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 06:31 PM (a3Q+t)

    121 BREAKING: Students at Princeton are going on a hunger strike until the college board meets their demands. Princeton stops boring them.

    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:31 PM (RIvkX)

    122 The thing about that pier... it was reportedly going to be "permanent."

    That ain't it.
    Posted by: Martini Farmer


    You want permanent? That's extra!

    Posted by: The Pentagon at May 03, 2024 06:31 PM (pEcHx)

    123 FJB just doesn't cut it anymore. I wish him a raging case of shingles in his dessicated nut sack and asshole

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 06:32 PM (mKjJV)

    124 "It must suck to be KJP and have to spout such mendacious lies on a daily basis."

    But, that is the only reason she has the job ... that and her black lesbian social credit score points. (and short person ... does that yield points social credit score system?)

    Posted by: illiniwek at May 03, 2024 06:32 PM (Cus5s)

    125
    I never did get the 'hunger strike' thing. Who gives a shit if you starve yourself to death?

    Not me, even on my best day.

    Don't even drink water. Make it quick.

    I should be a better person but I'm not.

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:32 PM (RKVpM)

    126 Asinine stupidity, or slavish devotion?
    Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 03, 2024 06:23 PM

    Embrace the healing power of "and".

    Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 03, 2024 06:33 PM (6vIY6)

    127 *snores*

    Wait, wut?

    *falls back asleep*

    Posted by: Princeton Boys at May 03, 2024 06:33 PM (RIvkX)

    128 >>I never did get the 'hunger strike' thing.


    Terrible Song.
    2/10
    Would not dance to it.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:33 PM (SVfFu)

    129 Well, if she's from Harvard...LOL
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:25 PM


    You know who else is from Harvard?

    Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at May 03, 2024 06:34 PM (a3Q+t)

    130 Seen on X

    “Barbieland Intifada"

    In describing some of the college 'Kill the Jews' 'protests'. Funneh!

    https://tinyurl.com/ye29jdj2 Goes to Instapundit.

    Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 03, 2024 06:34 PM (xA5g+)

    131 If you want permanent you will need a breaker to create a harbor.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:34 PM (MNhXM)

    132 BREAKING: Students at Princeton are going on a hunger strike until the college board meets their demands.

    I think classes and finals are probably over by the end of next week. Even Jesus-who wasn't a Palestinian fasted longer than a week.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:34 PM (XkYcA)

    133 The hunger strike will last from 8am to 10am M W and Fridays.

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 06:35 PM (mKjJV)

    134 BTW if you've bet $$ on the ponies at Churchill Downs, the pre-Derby races are on.

    *Pre Derby*

    Nobody freakout.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 06:35 PM (Q4IgG)

    135 Barky's minions are out to help Hamas
    Nothing goes in Gaza without going through Hamas

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:35 PM (fwDg9)

    136 Triggypuff could use a hunger strike.

    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:35 PM (MNhXM)

    137
    Terrible Song.
    2/10
    Would not dance to it.

    Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2024 06:33 PM


    That's harsh, nice rhythm.

    :: pulls out gun and shoots garrett ::

    Posted by: The Geator with the Heater at May 03, 2024 06:36 PM (RKVpM)

    138 Triggypuff could use a hunger strike.
    Posted by: polynikes at May 03, 2024 06:35 PM


    -2/10.

    Would not bang.

    Posted by: J. Random Single 'Ron at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM (a3Q+t)

    139 You know who else is from Harvard?
    Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at May 03, 2024 06:34 PM (a3Q+t)

    Yes; John Witherspoon, signer of the Declaration of Independence was a Professor and President there.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM (XkYcA)

    140 That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?

    Here it is under construction...

    https://tinyurl.com/mpw554kp
    ---
    I-- having no engineering training whatsoever-- said from the beginning:
    There's a reason there is not already a port there.
    Seaports are tricky, complicated things.
    And that area has had ships and boats of all sizes for thousands of years. With every possible experience in every possible port.
    And not one civilization in that time has been stupid enough to try a seaport at Gaza.
    But, Biden is up to, or down to, the challenge.

    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM (txAno)

    141 Well, "severe weather conditions" destroyed our Mulberry in 1944.
    Posted by: Eeyore at May 03, 2024 06:23 PM


    Climate change was causing disasters even then!

    Posted by: Greta, the future Mrs. Thunberg-Hogg at May 03, 2024 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

    142 Any Q7 owners out there?

    Posted by: Jamaica at May 03, 2024 06:39 PM (IG7T0)

    143
    Yes; John Witherspoon, signer of the Declaration of Independence was a Professor and President there.

    I don't know about John Witherspoon but John Barleycorn must die.

    Posted by: Traffic at May 03, 2024 06:39 PM (RKVpM)

    144 And not one civilization in that time has been stupid enough to try a seaport at Gaza.
    But, Biden is up to, or down to, the challenge.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

    Very shallow and bedrock bottom?

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 03, 2024 06:40 PM (50n2b)

    145 But, Biden is up to, or down to, the challenge.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM (txAno)
    ===
    No joke, jack.

    Posted by: Zombie Joe Biden at May 03, 2024 06:40 PM (RIvkX)

    146 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM (XkYcA)

    Sorry; That was PrincetonUniv Witherspoon was the President of. The greatest Protestant theologian of the US-Jonathan Edwards- was at Harvard. Both are greater scholars and were probably greater humans beings than Mr. Hogg .

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:41 PM (XkYcA)

    147 Thinking of getting a 2017 as a 2nd car

    Posted by: Jamaica at May 03, 2024 06:41 PM (IG7T0)

    148 Colin Allred is this year's Beto. Hopefully he'll siphon off $20-30 million that could be used more productively elsewhere by coastal Dem donors.

    Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 03, 2024 06:43 PM (r5tfK)

    149 >>where they are planning to Complete the Construction of the Dock as well as the 5-Mile Temporary Floating Causeway that will Connect to the Shore.

    A 5 mile temporary floating causeway. On the open sea.

    Ok then.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:43 PM (LkLld)

    150 and short person ... does that yield points social credit score system?)
    ---
    I'd like to respond with "no," but there was a sign out front that said "you must be this tall to comment"

    Posted by: screaming in digital at May 03, 2024 06:44 PM (wQXfi)

    151 A hunger strike is a stupid ruse. It relies on the opponent caring about the striker. If 200 anti Semites and anti Americans starve, what do I care?

    Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 03, 2024 06:45 PM (XD0oz)

    152 screaming in digital ready for your trip?

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 06:45 PM (mKjJV)

    153 And not one civilization in that time has been stupid enough to try a seaport at Gaza.
    But, Biden is up to, or down to, the challenge.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM


    It's entirely possible one or more have tried.

    The point you're making is no civilization has ever banged a cheerleader in a port there.

    Posted by: John Mason at May 03, 2024 06:46 PM (a3Q+t)

    154 Gaza has a magnificent seaport. So great, in fact, that it is without peer pier!

    And, a pier can't be made permanent, unless affixed to the seabed, but FJB ain't bothering with that detail.

    But, I'll stop now, lest I be accused of really Piling On.


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at May 03, 2024 06:46 PM (e6UQI)

    155
    A 5 mile temporary floating causeway. On the open sea.

    Ok then.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:43 PM


    What could conceivably go wrong? Serious question.

    Posted by: No, It is Not at May 03, 2024 06:46 PM (RKVpM)

    156 I'd like to respond with "no," but there was a sign out front that said "you must be this tall to comment"
    Posted by: screaming in digital at May 03, 2024 06:44 PM


    Oops! That was out there for AtC.

    Posted by: The Moose Out Front at May 03, 2024 06:47 PM (a3Q+t)

    157 Ben Had, not yet, but making progress. Have arrangements for Mom and the cat which is a big relief. Ordered some needed things yesterday.

    Posted by: screaming in digital at May 03, 2024 06:47 PM (wQXfi)

    158 Watching Downfall on YouTube, first time ever saw what the meme was really

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:47 PM (fwDg9)

    159 150 and short person ... does that yield points social credit score system?)
    ---
    I'd like to respond with "no," but there was a sign out front that said "you must be this tall to comment"
    Posted by: screaming in digital at May 03, 2024

    Wait a minute here! 😂

    Posted by: Piper at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (71y1j)

    160 That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?

    Here it is under construction...

    https://tinyurl.com/mpw554kp
    ---
    I-- having no engineering training whatsoever-- said from the beginning:
    There's a reason there is not already a port there.
    Seaports are tricky, complicated things.
    And that area has had ships and boats of all sizes for thousands of years. With every possible experience in every possible port.
    And not one civilization in that time has been stupid enough to try a seaport at Gaza.
    But, Biden is up to, or down to, the challenge.
    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:37 PM (txAno)
    ---
    For $300 million, it better come with a casino well-stocked with hookers and blackjack.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (BpYfr)

    161 Gaza has a magnificent seaport. So great, in fact, that it is without peer pier!

    And, a pier can't be made permanent, unless affixed to the seabed, but FJB ain't bothering with that detail.

    But, I'll stop now, lest I be accused of really Piling On.

    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX
    Posted by: Jim at May 03, 2024 06:46 PM


    At least they'll never need to be scraped, and thus FJB won't receive a barnacle bill.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (a3Q+t)

    162 Dr. Bandy X. Lee, I looked her up. Asian gal.

    She held a conference on how dangerous Trump is; wrote a book from it, "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump."

    And testified to the CO legislature that family courts are too nice to men.
    Because all men are violent and abusive.
    So family court judges should be stripped of official immunity if the father is given any custody and the child is abused or killed.
    Forcing judges to never grant custody of any sort to any fathers to be safe.

    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 06:48 PM (txAno)

    163 Gotta get out and mow before the rain gets here

    Posted by: screaming in digital at May 03, 2024 06:49 PM (wQXfi)

    164 158 Watching Downfall on YouTube, first time ever saw what the meme was really
    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 06:47 PM (fwDg9)

    It's a disturbing movie on so many levels ...

    Posted by: browndog didn't like the dog getting poisoned at May 03, 2024 06:49 PM (TTAGa)

    165 Austin declared that US troops working on the boondoggle could return fire if fired upon

    Posted by: Ben Had at May 03, 2024 06:50 PM (mKjJV)

    166 Nood.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 06:50 PM (a3Q+t)

    167 New whistleblower claim.

    >>@alx

    >>“Donald Trump's authority as commander-in-chief was ignored by senior military leadership on January 6, 2021, claims the chief legal advisor for D.C. National Guard on that day… Claims they plotted to balk orders to deploy the National Guard to the Capitol”

    Article is in the Daily Mail.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:51 PM (LkLld)

    168 I keep trying...and failing...to imagine a spokesperson worse at their job than KJP. Most of the time it would be better if she just didn't answer the question.

    Her hair, her eyeshadow. She's always looking down when she is talking...she rambles....sheesh.

    Posted by: El Mariachi Attorney at Law at May 03, 2024 06:52 PM (ARlwA)

    169 That "pier" we're building for Gaza? $300+ million?
    ____

    I know, it looks pathetic for $300mm. Were you expecting a repair of the Francis Scott Key bridge for $300mm. This being a smart military blog, let me explain. Materials are only about 20%, the rest is logistics and other overhead. Other overhead, which is largely made up of kickbacks to congress, has really gone up, what with the inflation and all that.

    Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 03, 2024 06:53 PM (SDI6g)

    170 155
    A 5 mile temporary floating causeway. On the open sea.

    Ok then.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 06:43 PM

    What could conceivably go wrong? Serious question.
    Posted by: No, It is Not

    Ever hear of waves, maybe the Verrazano bridge? 5 miles is a long distance and concrete and steel really isn't elastic enough.

    Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 03, 2024 07:02 PM (qZdIZ)

    Trump's Defense Finds a Lot of Helpful Testimony from a Surprising Source -- Stormy Daniel's Lawyer/Blackmail Agent

    Stormy Daniels' lawyer was quizzed as a witness in Trump's bulls*** trial.

    He made a bunch of statements that are very helpful to Trump.

    First of all, he made it clear that Stormy Daniels was pressuring Trump to pay her off or else she'd go public with her claims.

    This is called "blackmail" in most jurisdictions. Jurors may well wonder who the victim is here. Surely not the "New York state political disclosure laws."


    The ex-lawyer of adult film actress Stormy Daniels testified Thursday that he thought Donald Trump was "going to lose" the 2016 presidential election, and pressed trump's ex-lawyer Michael Cohen to settle the payment before losing "leverage."

    During the final rounds of questioning to Daniel's lawyer, Keith Davidson, he admitted he spoke to Cohen, pressing him to settle the $130,000 payment to Daniels to quiet her claims of an alleged extramarital affair she had with Trump in 2006, before the 2016 election. He said Trump "will lose", and subsequently his client would lose her leverage. Trump has denied every having the affair.

    That phone call was described as intense and full of expletives. Trump's defense team is hoping to connect that call with Davidson's alleged pattern of squeezing people for money during vulnerable times.

    Well, yeah.

    Next, for reasons I'm not clear on, the sleazebag extortionist insisted that the payments to Stormy Daniels were not hush money at all.

    The jury doesn't have to accept his claim. But the Soros DA is claiming Trump covered up "hush money" payments, and the party who negotiated those payments (or extorted them) says they weren't hush money payments at all.

    They were just "consideration." The quid for the quo of Stormy Daniels not carrying through with her blackmail threat.


    Davidson earlier Thursday said that the $130,000 payment to Daniels was not "hush money," but a "consideration" payment.

    Consideration" is a contractual legal term for what someone gives in return for the promise to abide by a contract; in this case, money. The payment was labeled "legal fees" in Trump's accounting, which prosecutors allege amounted to fraud.

    Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Johsua Steinglass earlier pressed Davidson about Daniels' statement, which Davidson prepared for his client, that denied any relationship with Trump and said that her only interaction with Trump was "a few public appearances and nothing more."

    "Rumors that I have received hush money from Donald Trump are completely false," the statement says."I don't believe that Stormy ever alleged that any interaction with Trump was 'romantic,'" Davidson testified Thursday.

    But it is his understanding that Daniels had a sexual encounter with Trump.He also said the payment "wasn't a payoff.""It wasn't a payoff. And it wasn't hush money. It was consideration," Davidson said. Davidson added that he would never use "hush money" to describe the money exchange. He would only refer to it as "consideration."

    Finally, the extortionist revealed reasons to doubt the Soros DA's "star witness" Michael Cohen. Cohen was so distraught that Trump was not taking him to DC that he considered suicide.

    That is a huge motive to lie to get vengeance.

    "Can you f---ing believe I'm not going to Washington after everything I've done for that guy. I can't believe I'm not going to Washington...I've save[d] his a--..."Cohen told Davidson. According to Davidson, Cohen wanted to be Attorney General or White House chief of staff.

    Davidson testified that he thought Cohen was so distressed that he wasn't going to work in the Trump administration that he might kill himself.

    Trump continues thwarting the Democrats' scheme to keep him too tied up in court to do any campaigning:

    Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:55 PM




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    1 Yeet!

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 04:55 PM (dy/xE)

    2 Jeepers ace, glad you're back. That was skeery.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 04:55 PM (dy/xE)

    3 hello

    Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 03, 2024 04:56 PM (R4t5M)

    4 Yoooooo

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 04:58 PM (BG4vv)

    5 Hi

    Posted by: Ciampino - How many gerbils under the hood?? at May 03, 2024 04:58 PM (qfLjt)

    6 I've never seen the victim of blackmail arrested on TV cop shows unless they murder the blackmailer.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 04:58 PM (63Dwl)

    7 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 04:55 PM (dy/xE)

    What’d I miss

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 04:59 PM (BG4vv)

    8 7 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 04:55 PM (dy/xE)

    What’d I miss
    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 04:59 PM (BG4vv)

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    Ace got mushy about how much the commenters were what helped make this place special.

    About 20 minutes later, the whole site went down.

    Coincidence? THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES!!!

    Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 03, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

    9 And I was not on board the Trump re-election train a few months ago.

    I am now. Not because he's perfect. But because there must be a lot we don't know for the junta to be so dedicated to his destruction.

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:00 PM (dy/xE)

    10 I need medical advice from the group

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (/7KEl)

    11 I'm not impressed with the legal eagles on either side in that shit show.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (Q4IgG)

    12 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 03, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

    Right on.

    Ace though we may disagree I love you bro. No homo.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:02 PM (BG4vv)

    13 Even if Trump did pay hush money so what? It's not illegal. Bubba Clinton had a whole group in his campaign to deal with "bimbo eruptions".

    Nothing Trump did was illegal yet here we are.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:02 PM (LkLld)

    14 I need medical advice from the group
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (/7KEl)
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    You've come to the wrong group.

    If a hot iron don't solve your problems, then we're all out of ideas.

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (7fElN)

    15 “Next, for reasons I'm not clear on, the sleazebag extortionist insisted that the payments to Stormy Daniels were not hush money at all.”

    He was calling it “consideration” (which is perfectly legal and indeed the basis of any valid contract) rather than “hush money” because the latter, when coupled with the obvious blackmail-y circumstances of the payment, would open up him (and his client) to a criminal bribery claim. Remember, that’s what got Avenatti, IIRC.

    Posted by: Elric Blade at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (UBCIr)

    16 Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (/7KEl)

    What’s up broski

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (BG4vv)

    17 Minor good news:

    @MrAndyNgo 8m
    Breaking: Two San Diego Antifa members (Jeremy White and Brian Lightfoot) on trial for a felony violent conspiracy in the “Antifa trial of the decade” have been found GUILTY. In depth report to come soon.

    Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (IG4Id)

    18 -
    I need medical advice from the group

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM -

    --

    Would you say you prefer dirt, or a hot iron?

    Posted by: irright at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (SchQD)

    19 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)

    20 About 20 minutes later, the whole site went down.

    Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 03, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

    =====

    For a long ass time. It was upsetting.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (DRSnL)

    21 Hope Hicks: Cohen called himself ‘Mr. Fix It’ only because he broke them first

    tinyurl.com/3tr7j569

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (NpAcC)

    22 He was calling it “consideration” (which is perfectly legal and indeed the basis of any valid contract) rather than “hush money” because the latter, when coupled with the obvious blackmail-y circumstances of the payment, would open up him (and his client) to a criminal bribery claim. Remember, that’s what got Avenatti, IIRC.
    Posted by: Elric Blade at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (UBCIr)
    ---
    So it's just a mutual understanding that this pile of money will slide across the table to one side and a piece of paper stating one's objective to do or not do something in the future slides to the other side?

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:05 PM (7fElN)

    23 Let’s get real. There could be testimony from Stormy saying yeah this is all bullshit and Trump didn’t do anything wrong.

    And he’ll still get convicted by a NYC jury.

    Posted by: Montec at May 03, 2024 05:05 PM (mHi0d)

    24 About 20 minutes later, the whole site went down.

    Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 03, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

    =====

    For a long ass time. It was upsetting.
    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (DRSnL)
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    We may never have a full accounting of the numbers of Morons and hamsters that were lost during the outage...

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:06 PM (7fElN)

    25 I wonder if anything Davidson & Cohen said on the stand was a surprise to the prosecutor?

    You're not supposed to get surprised by your own witnesses.

    I think Trump will be convicted after a surprisingly short period of deliberation. They've got a Manhattan jury predisposed to hate the defendant. I doubt the jurors have much interest in the actual evidence presented.

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 05:06 PM (NLIak)

    26 IIRC the movie LA Confidential was kicked off by the results of a proposed agreement to not publish damaging information about certain people for a consideration.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:06 PM (D7oie)

    27 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)

    =====

    Oh, I'm interested in hearing this, too. I'm supposed to get one.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (DRSnL)

    28 For some reason I read the word "consideration" in a Don Carleone voice.

    Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (DsA2n)

    29 with a nod to the post topic

    https://youtu.be/4XrWESC7dsA?si=3hlFe_h0udCV-5tU

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (/7KEl)

    30 10 I need medical advice from the group

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (/7KEl)
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    Penicillin will clear that up.

    Posted by: Ciampino - changed to squirrels at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (qfLjt)

    31 >>I think Trump will be convicted after a surprisingly short period of deliberation.

    Convicted of what crime?

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (LkLld)

    32 22 He was calling it “consideration” (which is perfectly legal and indeed the basis of any valid contract) rather than “hush money” because the latter, when coupled with the obvious blackmail-y circumstances of the payment, would open up him (and his client) to a criminal bribery claim. Remember, that’s what got Avenatti, IIRC.
    Posted by: Elric Blade at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (UBCIr)
    ---
    So it's just a mutual understanding that this pile of money will slide across the table to one side and a piece of paper stating one's objective to do or not do something in the future slides to the other side?
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:05 PM (7fElN)
    ————

    Yes. He was treating this arrangement almost as an NDA.

    Posted by: Elric Blade at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (UBCIr)

    33 This is called "blackmail" in most jurisdictions.

    --------

    IIRC, it's blackmail when the behavior being covered up is illegal. When it's not illegal (as is the case here), it's extortion.

    On another note...

    I have a vague recollection of Ms. Daniels claiming a few years ago that Cohen (and Trump, via association) sent thugs to threaten her into accepting the money. The difference in the story from Davidson is interesting...

    Posted by: junior at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (HDo58)

    34 need medical advice from the group

    -

    Do NOT eat the gas station sushi no matter how tempting it may be.

    Posted by: Montec at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (mHi0d)

    35 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black

    Had the first half. Pretty big reaction, missed a couple days of work. Changed doctors, new one said skip part two (I wouldn’t have taken part two either way).

    Posted by: Kratwurst at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (nIRE6)

    36 Trump continues thwarting the Democrats' scheme to keep him too tied up in court to do any campaigning:

    The amusing thing is that besides turning Trump into a martyr, it's backfiring because although Trump's rallies are awesome, footage from the rallies reminds a lot of people why they don't like Trump.

    A lower-profile Trump is a more popular Trump.

    Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (uxCna)

    37 Convicted of what crime?
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (LkLld)

    Being a bad orange man.

    Posted by: Montec at May 03, 2024 05:09 PM (mHi0d)

    38 YOOT !

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 05:09 PM (T4tVD)

    39 31 >>I think Trump will be convicted after a surprisingly short period of deliberation.

    Convicted of what crime?
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (LkLld)

    Whatever's being charged.

    Posted by: Another Bergdorf's Verdict at May 03, 2024 05:09 PM (8SCtT)

    40 The United States government has been completely hijacked by woke activists.

    The National Center for Environmental Health, which works with the CDC has a $200 million budget, is using Climate Change to advance DEI.

    Let me show you just how deep the rot goes:

    https://bit.ly/49ZQMLj

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 03, 2024 05:10 PM (P5BPp)

    41 Willowed -

    What's a site?
    Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda

    Something for sore eyes !

    Posted by: JT at May 03, 2024 05:10 PM (T4tVD)

    42 Posted by: Kratwurst at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (nIRE6

    This was the experience of others I’ve known to take it. They just get fucked up.

    I’d just avoid vaccines in general from here to the rapture. YMMV.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:10 PM (BG4vv)

    43 >>>I think Trump will be convicted after a surprisingly short period of deliberation.

    Convicted of what crime?
    Posted by: JackStraw


    Existing

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:11 PM (/7KEl)

    44 >>>>>who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)

    =====

    Oh, I'm interested in hearing this, too. I'm supposed to get one.
    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:07 PM (DRSnL)
    ****************
    It’s an mRNA shot, actually 2 shots. I took the old vaccine, I’ll pass on this one.

    Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 03, 2024 05:11 PM (Z8Xq7)

    45 PDT understands retail politics better than any politician in the last 60 years, I believe.

    Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 03, 2024 05:11 PM (tT6L1)

    46
    Convicted of what crime?
    Posted by: JackStraw


    NOT OF THE BODY!

    Posted by: Landru at May 03, 2024 05:12 PM (63Dwl)

    47 Lawyers, what can you say?

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 05:12 PM (o2ZRX)

    48 It seems that all of the prosecutions witnesses are testifying that Trump did nothing wrong.


    It's almost like the prosecutor never had a case and he knew it.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 05:12 PM (QNSds)

    49 This is kind of a problem.

    >>@ByronYork


    >>The insanity at the heart of the Trump trial. We're weeks into the trial and still do not know precisely what crime Trump is charged with committing.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (LkLld)

    50 Had a friend that took the shingles shot was crippled for 10 years

    Posted by: Talachulitna at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (jwcve)

    51 It’s an mRNA shot, actually 2 shots. I took the old vaccine, I’ll pass on this one.
    Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 03, 2024 05:11 PM (Z8Xq7)

    =====

    Is it? Well, shit. I thought it was one of the dead virus things.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (DRSnL)

    52
    Oh, I'm interested in hearing this, too. I'm supposed to get one.
    Posted by: Jordan61
    ****************
    It’s an mRNA shot, actually 2 shots. I took the old vaccine, I’ll pass on this one.
    Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly


    I had the old one and the two dose new one. No problems at all.

    Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (63Dwl)

    53 You have two options about the shingles vaccine, according to my sources (who are either cranks or people who haven't gotten their peer review completed)

    1) get it and hope it works instead of hurts you
    2) don't get it and instead hang around with young to grade-school age kids so your immune system gets regular updates of chickenpox virus so your immune system won't forget what it looks like as the virus hides in your nervous system waiting for your immune system to forget what it looks like

    Shingles is painful because the virus kills nerves, which makes the stubs register "pain"

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (D7oie)

    54 ho has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black

    Had the first half. Pretty big reaction, missed a couple days of work. Changed doctors, new one said skip part two (I wouldn’t have taken part two either way).
    Posted by: Kratwurst

    I've had the first, with minimal reaction. Warm in the area of the shot, and a little swelling. Nothing else memorable.

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (VNX3d)

    55 What judge or prosecutor would ever charge a crime on someone trying to blackmail Trump?

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (fwDg9)

    56 I think-unlike Obama, for instance, Trump actually enjoys being with working class people. I bet he sits in the courtroom trying to think of ways he can get around the "no campaigning" rule and greet and mingle with them. I also, know that there are stories of Trump helping people under the radar. Does anyone think there are stories about Biden helping anyone else but his family?

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (XkYcA)

    57 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black

    Had the first half. Pretty big reaction, missed a couple days of work. Changed doctors, new one said skip part two (I wouldn’t have taken part two either way).
    Posted by: Kratwurst at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (nIRE6)
    ********
    My mom's friend got shingles around her eye and almost went blind.
    She was a mess.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (NpAcC)

    58 Thanks for the nood, everybody. Jeesh.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (9yWhg)

    59 I don’t know about the mRNA part. Took it in 21 when allegedly the Covid vax was the first rollout of mRNA

    Posted by: Kratwurst at May 03, 2024 05:15 PM (nIRE6)

    60 Davidson testified that he thought Cohen was so distressed that he wasn't going to work in the Trump administration that he might kill himself.
    ......

    Don't tease us like that.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:15 PM (v0R5T)

    61 >>>>>Is it? Well, shit. I thought it was one of the dead virus things.
    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (DRSnL)
    *********
    The old vax was I believe, but you can’t get that anymore. At least where I live.

    Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 03, 2024 05:15 PM (Z8Xq7)

    62 Attorney General? Chief of Staff? Is he aware there*s drug test for these positions?

    Posted by: Clay at May 03, 2024 05:15 PM (6xrUr)

    63 Minorities just can’t no fresh climate? They have to settle for climate scraps.

    Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2024 05:15 PM (o2ZRX)

    64 >>> 49 This is kind of a problem.

    >>@ByronYork


    >>The insanity at the heart of the Trump trial. We're weeks into the trial and still do not know precisely what crime Trump is charged with committing.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (LkLld)

    HE SAID PUSSY!!!

    Posted by: MSDNCBSABCXiNN at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (llON8)

    65 Whoever called it on an earlier thread that Ace would do a post on this, please come to the window to collect your winnings.

    Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (9yWhg)

    66 Trump did nothing wrong.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (cf/0E)

    67 Utterly lawless rogue govt: "Democrats in the Illinois House introduced a child welfare bill – then quietly gutted it. They replaced it with an entirely different election bill." The whole travesty took less than 48 hours.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (MvF+J)

    68 Attorney General? Chief of Staff? Is he aware there*s drug test for these positions?
    Posted by: Clay

    There obviously isn't a brain function test or morals test.

    Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (VNX3d)

    69 I think-unlike Obama, for instance, Trump actually enjoys being with working class people.

    Trump builds buildings with blue-collar work forces. He has far more experience interacting with blue-collar people than anyone else in the upper reaches of American politics.

    Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (uxCna)

    70 36 ARC

    I think that's perceptive.

    I agree that a lower profile Trump is a more likable Trump, for lots of not-very-political voters.

    I would've preferred that he hadn't launched an attack on RFK, Jr. recently, though. I can't see any political benefit in that.

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (NLIak)

    71 45 PDT understands retail politics better than any politician in the last 60 years, I believe.
    ____

    Have you SEEN the price of arugula lately?

    Posted by: Lightbringer at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (SDI6g)

    72 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black

    Had the first half. Pretty big reaction, missed a couple days of work. Changed doctors, new one said skip part two (I wouldn’t have taken part two either way).
    Posted by: Kratwurst at May 03, 2024 05:08 PM (nIRE6)
    ********
    My mom's friend got shingles around her eye and almost went blind.
    She was a mess.

    Posted by: redridinghood at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM


    You do not want to get shingles. My wife had them and it was an extremely painful three weeks. I got the vaccine and had no side effects.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (QNSds)

    73 Utterly lawless rogue govt: "Democrats in the Illinois House introduced a child welfare bill – then quietly gutted it. They replaced it with an entirely different election bill." The whole travesty took less than 48 hours.
    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (MvF+J)
    ---
    What, they didn't just give all children 5 and up the vote?

    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (7fElN)

    74 What toppings does Trump prefer on his pizza?

    Posted by: I gotta ask at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (HPREz)

    75 2) don't get it and instead hang around with young to grade-school age kids so your immune system gets regular updates of chickenpox virus so your immune system won't forget what it looks like as the virus hides in your nervous system waiting for your immune system to forget what it looks like

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:14 PM (D7oie)

    =====

    I had pityriasis rosea a few years back, which is in the same family. Wonder if that counts.

    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (DRSnL)

    76 The insanity at the heart of the Trump trial. We're weeks into the trial and still do not know precisely what crime Trump is charged with committing.
    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (LkLld)


    He said "no"

    Like most abusers, the Blob cannot tolerate anyone saying no.

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (D7oie)

    77 I need medical advice from the group
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (/7KEl)
    ---
    You've come to the wrong group.

    If a hot iron don't solve your problems, then we're all out of ideas.
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (7fElN)
    ........

    Now, if it's dating advice you need, we're full of it.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (v0R5T)

    78 >>> 69 I think-unlike Obama, for instance, Trump actually enjoys being with working class people.

    Trump builds buildings with blue-collar work forces. He has far more experience interacting with blue-collar people than anyone else in the upper reaches of American politics.
    Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (uxCna)

    "Those people are icky." -- unipartiers

    Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (llON8)

    79 You've come to the wrong group.

    If a hot iron don't solve your problems, then we're all out of ideas.
    Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 03, 2024 05:03 PM (7fElN)

    When did leaches become not a thing?

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2024 05:18 PM (dGCAG)

    80 Guilty! Now pull up your pants you rascal!

    Heil Biden!

    Posted by: ReichsJustice Juan M. Freisler Merchan at May 03, 2024 05:18 PM (R/m4+)

    81 It seems most of the left today was sperging on hope hicks.

    Although, she just repeats the same irrelevant crap that everyone else has about this.

    Posted by: banana Dream at May 03, 2024 05:18 PM (Y6IkP)

    82 My mom, 83 now, got the shingles shot. She said her two outbreaks were mild, by the time she noticed, they cleared up. Both outbreaks in her 80's.
    She is, it should be said, is Covid boosted.

    Posted by: Jamaica at May 03, 2024 05:18 PM (IG7T0)

    83 has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black

    Architectural, 3-tab or Mediterranean tile?

    Posted by: African or European? at May 03, 2024 05:18 PM (Wc83a)

    84 No pineapple on that MAGA pizza, bitches.

    Posted by: Czech Chick at May 03, 2024 05:19 PM (I6NNh)

    85 When I am droning on to myself I assume I am willowed

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 05:19 PM (fwDg9)

    86
    Architectural, 3-tab or Mediterranean tile?
    Posted by: African or European? at May 03, 2024 05:18 PM (Wc83a)
    -------------

    Cedar shake.

    Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 03, 2024 05:19 PM (tT6L1)

    87 Surely a Trump pizza would be most glorious.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:19 PM (w6EFb)

    88
    1. Mean Tweets.
    2. Vocalization of "P*ssy".

    'Nuff said.

    Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2024 05:19 PM (a3Q+t)

    89 I had pityriasis rosea a few years back, which is in the same family. Wonder if that counts.
    Posted by: Jordan61 at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (DRSnL)


    Volunteer with the YMCA Early learning program once a week for a quarter a year, or the summer camps. You will catch everything going around when you are healthy.
    My wife brings everything home

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:20 PM (D7oie)

    90 Cedar shake.

    Posted by: Lasts forever at May 03, 2024 05:20 PM (HPREz)

    91 It’s an mRNA shot, actually 2 shots. I took the old vaccine, I’ll pass on this one.
    Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 03, 2024 05:11 PM (Z8Xq7)

    Really? I hadn't heard that. Guess I had the "old one," had no problems whatsoever. This was always one of those "there's no good reason not to get it" vaccines.

    If they're clot-shotting people now, I'd say pass on it.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2024 05:20 PM (dGCAG)

    92 73 Deets @illinoispolicy on X.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:20 PM (MvF+J)

    93 >>>81 It seems most of the left today was sperging on hope hicks.

    I love this place.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:21 PM (w6EFb)

    94 >Trump did a racism, serious guys!

    Fuck you. Trump did nothing wrong.

    >Trump said pussy! Fraud! Bankruptcy! Catsup!

    Trump did nothing wrong.

    >You all are in a cult! He's your new Jesus!

    Trump did nothing wrong.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 05:21 PM (cf/0E)

    95 Someone posted on the prior an excerpt from CNN where the prosecution called for a 5 minute break.
    Where even CNN was calling it a "cleanup on aisle 5" moment.

    Was it after this testimony?

    Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (4ys8a)

    96 Internet says Shingrix (the current 2-dose vaccine) is NOT an mRNA vaccine

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (/7KEl)

    97 Yes, those CCP energy companies were just giving Hunter Biden some CONSIDERATION!

    Posted by: Jay in PA at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (i7Q7S)

    98 I would've preferred that he hadn't launched an attack on RFK, Jr. recently, though. I can't see any political benefit in that.

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (NLIak)


    May 24 Trump is speaking at the Libertarian national convention. It promises to be LIT

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (D7oie)

    99 Had a mild case of shingles circa 1981. Haven't seen it since. I gather that it is the chickenpox virus, reanimated in an angrier form after lying dormant in the CNS for decades.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (MvF+J)

    100 I'd sperg on Hope Hicks

    Posted by: IYKWIM at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (Wc83a)

    101 I apologize if I have side-tracked the thread

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (/7KEl)

    102 Internet says Shingrix (the current 2-dose vaccine) is NOT an mRNA vaccine

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (/7KEl)

    AFAIK they're all poison. You think Big Pharma cares? Half of their job is to kill us off, and the other half is to keep us alive to be milked.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (w6EFb)

    103 I apologize if I have side-tracked the thread
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (/7KEl)


    next time mention boobs

    Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2024 05:24 PM (D7oie)

    104 Had shingles on my roof whole life. It's worked out ok.

    Posted by: guy who's only skimming the comments at May 03, 2024 05:24 PM (8SCtT)

    105 >AFAIK they're all poison. You think Big Pharma cares? Half of their job is to kill us off, and the other half is to keep us alive to be milked.

    Posted by: Miley
    ---

    do you really believe that

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (/7KEl)

    106 Cedar shake.
    Posted by: Lasts forever


    *envelop to the head*
    What is a Lebanese mayor...

    Posted by: weft Carnac at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (IG4Id)

    107 Husband and I had the two-stage shingles vaccine with no problems. It was a while ago--before Covid I am sure--because we're both skeptical of shots now.

    Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (FEVMW)

    108 Had a friend that took the shingles shot was crippled for 10 years

    Posted by: Talachulitna at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (jwcve)

    I know a guy who was crippled for life from a sneeze. He was working under a car and with the position his body was in and the reaction to the sneeze it did something to his back or a nerve, I don't know the details, but he hobbled around for the rest of his life with a crooked leg and his foot twisted inward.

    Posted by: Mark1971 at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (xPl2J)

    109 Internet says Shingrix (the current 2-dose vaccine) is NOT an mRNA vaccine
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (/7KEl)

    Good to know. Yeah, it's always been one of the "good" vaccines, in that the benefits far outweigh the risks.

    I know a lot of people question the Hep B and HPV vaccines, and if you aren't being exposed sexually, those you can probably safely pass up, but shingles don't play. You don't want that. No way, no how.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (dGCAG)

    110 Can you imagine a red state prosecutor digging into Hillary’s shit , Rose law firm. E- mail crap.
    They would be in court for months.

    Election commission always fines campaigns after the fact. Just an appearance of normalcy.
    But rouge corrupt prosecutors have free will.

    Trump will win this. I’m sure. Normal people will see this as political

    Posted by: Redenzo at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (V/pbu)

    111 Hope Hicks?
    You mean the chick with the eyebrows?

    https://tinyurl.com/3kjruesv

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:26 PM (v0R5T)

    112 Montec

    "Find him guilty of what crime," you asked?

    I'm reminded of Marlon Brando in "The Wild Bunch":

    "Just what is it you people are rebelling against?"

    Brando: "What have you got?"



    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 05:26 PM (NLIak)

    113 Did I miss hear? At the 0:19 mark of the Newsmax clip the reporter mispeaks and say Joe Biden instead of DJT?

    Posted by: olddog in mo at May 03, 2024 05:26 PM (ju2Fy)

    114 Had a mild case of shingles circa 1981. Haven't seen it since. I gather that it is the chickenpox virus, reanimated in an angrier form after lying dormant in the CNS for decades.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (MvF+J)

    I had a very mild case, an outbreak the size of a catfoot and no blistering. Really just slightly annoying, since the "itchy nerve" thing wraps around your ribcage.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:26 PM (w6EFb)

    115 Before the vaxx I'd have taken a serious look at the shingles vaccine.

    Post vaxx? I don't trust pharma in the slightest when it comes to any vaccine.

    Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (tT6L1)

    116 I guess now we're seeing part of why there's a gag order attempt against Trump.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (RRLgz)

    117 Had a friend that took the shingles shot was crippled for 10 years

    Posted by: Talachulitna at May 03, 2024 05:13 PM (jwcve)

    I know a guy who was crippled for life from a sneeze. He was working under a car and with the position his body was in and the reaction to the sneeze it did something to his back or a nerve, I don't know the details, but he hobbled around for the rest of his life with a crooked leg and his foot twisted inward.
    Posted by: Mark1971 at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (xPl2J)

    Damn, that's a tough one.

    Life's about risks, of course. What are you willing to risk. Every day we get in our cars, light up the stove, put crappy food in our mouths... risks are part of all of it.

    Some people lose the lottery, that's just the way it goes.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (dGCAG)

    118 Hope Hicks testimony I think helped Trump. She took a sweet shot at Cohen.

    Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (G0vdT)

    119 > but shingles don't play. You don't want that. No way, no how.

    Posted by: BurtTC


    reason I brought it up is because I went for a physical today, and my doctor made shingles sound pretty bad

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (/7KEl)

    120 Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:23 PM (w6EFb)

    *salutes*

    I could not agree more.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (BG4vv)

    121 do you really believe that

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (/7KEl)

    Pretty much. Let's just say, that's my starting point. It's kept me safe so far.

    Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (w6EFb)

    122 what happened to the backup blog, hmmm ???

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:28 PM (V13WU)

    123 > Before the vaxx I'd have taken a serious look at the shingles vaccine.

    Post vaxx? I don't trust pharma in the slightest when it comes to any vaccine.
    _____________

    I wouldn't trust pharma to sell safe saline. Assholes.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 05:28 PM (Q4IgG)

    124 On another note...

    I have a vague recollection of Ms. Daniels claiming a few years ago that Cohen (and Trump, via association) sent thugs to threaten her into accepting the money. The difference in the story from Davidson is interesting...
    Posted by: junior

    ===============

    The ol "Silver or Lead" gambit.

    Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 03, 2024 05:29 PM (cOq4q)

    125 Blackmailers and extortionists always couch their threats carefully.
    "Imagine what it would be like for your spouse to find out about this."
    "Nice store you've got here. Fella would do well to do the right thing to keep it safe."

    Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 03, 2024 05:29 PM (wzAuc)

    126 98 Kindl

    Yes, another imaginative campaign idea. Somebody's been giving Orange a lot of those of late.

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 05:29 PM (NLIak)

    127 I can't wait for Karen MacDougal to testify. Hubba Hubba

    Trump will counter testify: "Yeah, I fucked her. I fucked her good. Next question.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 05:29 PM (Gse2f)

    128 Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:25 PM (/7KEl)

    I do.

    Amish population doesn’t vax and seem to be ok. Same with the NOI.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:29 PM (BG4vv)

    129 114 Same here. I had a bad backache one night, and then a couple days later I had a two inch patch. Back then, doctors called it Herpes zoster; who knows what it is now. We're lucky, because some cases are very severe.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:30 PM (MvF+J)

    130 I guess now we're seeing part of why there's a gag order attempt against Trump.
    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (RRLgz)

    If people are allowed to see for themselves, they might not make the choice we know they should make.

    Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2024 05:30 PM (dGCAG)

    131 Was advised very recently to get shingles Vax, problem is I don't trust them not to stuff in the Fake Vax with it.

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 05:30 PM (fwDg9)

    132 Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 05:29 PM (Gse2f)

    Ultimate Chad move if he does it.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:31 PM (BG4vv)

    133 Thank you all for your feedback, whether it was comic, unhinged, or straightforward

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:31 PM (/7KEl)

    134 Hope Hicks bikini shot:

    https://tinyurl.com/5fu6ez4t

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:31 PM (v0R5T)

    135 Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2024 05:21 PM (cf/0E)

    I find it rather amusing when leftists say people who voted for him "worship" Trump. Why? Because he had rallies? Obama never did that?!! I know someone who had a little shrine like thing to Obama in her house. Because Trump was selling a Bible and people bought it? So what? I didn't buy it. I don't care if people did. Trump isn't actually mentioned in the Bible, I tell them. i went to seminary and I know that. . I find it particularly amusing when people who know I'm a clergyperson say that I worship Trump. I feel like saying, "Yes; We converted the Apostle's Creed to be all about Trump. "

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 05:31 PM (XkYcA)

    136 Happy Friday, horde!

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (OX9vb)

    137 Trump genuinely enjoys being around blue collar people. It’s not an act. He’s worked with them his entire life building things. By contrast, he despises the elites and especially government. They were all lined up to suck his dick back when it benefited them — bribes and political favors for building permits, etc — but then stabbed him in the back as soon a he ran for President.

    Posted by: Elric Blade at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (UBCIr)

    138

    19 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)

    ------

    I had the older version a couple of years ago. No side effects.

    Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (dtlw7)

    139 I'm reminded of Marlon Brando in "The Wild Bunch":

    "Just what is it you people are rebelling against?"

    Brando: "What have you got?"


    I wonder how many squibs Sam Peckinpah would have put on Brando if he was in The Wild Bunch.

    Posted by: Chuck C at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (yOPBE)

    140 Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:31 PM (v0R5T)

    Is that really her?

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (BG4vv)

    141 Wow

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (fwDg9)

    142 >It’s an mRNA shot, actually 2 shots. I took the old vaccine, I’ll pass on this one.
    Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 03, 2024 05:11 PM (Z8Xq7)

    There is no mRNA-based shingles vaccine on the market yet. Shingrix is based on the old tech.

    Posted by: Liberty at May 03, 2024 05:33 PM (e8fK3)

    143 Gina Carano on FNT #300:

    https://bit.ly/4bkh2kw

    Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 03, 2024 05:33 PM (P5BPp)

    144 >Hope Hicks bikini shot:
    ---


    yeah, I think there's hardwood downstairs

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:33 PM (/7KEl)

    145 Oops, that was Hilary Rhoda.
    My bad.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:33 PM (v0R5T)

    146 Posted by: Elric Blade at May 03, 2024 05:32 PM (UBCIr)

    Agree with this sentiment

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:33 PM (BG4vv)

    147 Shingrix is still a subunit (protein-based) vaccine, not mRNA, though of course these jackasses are talking about changing the formulation. It is - as the people above mention - famously rough, and you should probably schedule a day off following the shot.

    It should be noted that Shingrix doesnt just protect against shingles, though. They can't officially say it cuts down on the risk of that certain other disease because no Official Study or FDA approval had been issued, but a little googling will reveal the (real) reason your doctor wants you to take it.

    Posted by: Locarno at May 03, 2024 05:34 PM (o9Ja/)

    148 134 Hope Hicks bikini shot:

    https://tinyurl.com/5fu6ez4t
    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:31 PM (v0R5T)
    --------

    Whoa

    Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2024 05:34 PM (G0vdT)

    149 don't be coy

    what is it

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:35 PM (/7KEl)

    150 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 03, 2024 05:33 PM (P5BPp)

    Woman is insanely hot and seemingly based.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:35 PM (BG4vv)

    151 Hope has great eyebrows

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:36 PM (/7KEl)

    152 Is that really her?
    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
    ......

    No, the internet lied to me.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:36 PM (v0R5T)

    153 30 10 I need medical advice from the group

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:01 PM (/7KEl)


    If you have to scratch every morning, I can't help ya.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 05:36 PM (W/lyH)

    154 Posted by: Locarno at May 03, 2024 05:34 PM (o9Ja/)

    Lemme guess. The doctors get a sweet cut for every patient that gets it.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:36 PM (BG4vv)

    155 19 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)

    Both shots hurt. I was flu-like sick with headache for at least three days after each one. Probably less trouble than shingles but not by much.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:36 PM (jpjFa)

    156 There's strong evidence, but not Official Knowledge, that it cuts the risk of developing Alzheimer's.

    Posted by: Locarno at May 03, 2024 05:37 PM (o9Ja/)

    157 >No, the internet lied to me.

    Posted by: wth


    this made me laugh
    I don't know why

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:37 PM (/7KEl)

    158 Utterly lawless rogue govt: "Democrats in the Illinois House introduced a child welfare bill – then quietly gutted it. They replaced it with an entirely different election bill." The whole travesty took less than 48 hours.
    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (MvF+J)

    Was that wrong?

    Posted by: Representative George Costanza at May 03, 2024 05:37 PM (mHi0d)

    159 Not a lawyer and probably already said: hush money sounds extortion-ist. IMHO

    Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 03, 2024 05:37 PM (JkCto)

    160 >There's strong evidence, but not Official Knowledge, that it cuts the risk of developing Alzheimer's.

    Posted by: Locarno


    thanks
    If true... bonus

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:38 PM (/7KEl)

    161 Eliminate the shingles with this one magic trick from The Orient!

    Posted by: Rice Wine Enema at May 03, 2024 05:39 PM (R/m4+)

    162 Dershowitz said Trump's best possible outcome is a hung jury.

    I agree. That's the only alternative to guilty as charged.

    There are a couple of lawyers on the jury. It's possible that one of them might have enough professional pride & self respect to say, "I dislike Trump as much as anybody, but THIS case is a bad legal joke. I won't go along with it."

    Posted by: mnw at May 03, 2024 05:39 PM (NLIak)

    163 Alright, thank you everyone for the discourse

    I'm going to rejoin my dinner party now

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:39 PM (/7KEl)

    164 I need medical advice from the group

    Posted by: Don Black


    Slap hot iron to it! (tm)

    Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2024 05:39 PM (nFo4U)

    165 67 Utterly lawless rogue govt: "Democrats in the Illinois House introduced a child welfare bill – then quietly gutted it. They replaced it with an entirely different election bill." The whole travesty took less than 48 hours.

    Posted by: gp Possesses The Jazz Bones at May 03, 2024 05:16 PM (MvF+J)
    ----
    Isn't this what the Congressional House did in order to get some bill passed during the Obama debacle? Was it obamacare?

    Posted by: Ciampino - That should be illegal at May 03, 2024 05:40 PM (qfLjt)

    166 reason I brought it up is because I went for a physical today, and my doctor made shingles sound pretty bad
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:27 PM (/7KEl)

    I believe that if your PCP is in a group practice, he my be being incentivized to get his clients ... noticed I didn't say patients, to get every shot / test on the standard of care program.

    If they fall below a certain level of adherence, they do not get performance bonuses.

    Medical practices are big business ...

    Posted by: browndog fights with his PCP at every annual physical at May 03, 2024 05:41 PM (TTAGa)

    167 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)

    Both shots hurt. I was flu-like sick with headache for at least three days after each one. Probably less trouble than shingles but not by much.
    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:36 PM (jpjFa)
    ------------
    I had a shingles vaccine last year and, for me, it was a nothingburger.

    Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 03, 2024 05:41 PM (Be/+i)

    168 96 Internet says Shingrix (the current 2-dose vaccine) is NOT an mRNA vaccine
    Posted by: Don Black

    Shingrix is also not created using fetal material, if that's important to you.

    Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 03, 2024 05:41 PM (OX9vb)

    169 Why would the Dems need to ply shenanigans though? They control everything.

    Posted by: Montec at May 03, 2024 05:42 PM (mHi0d)

    170 Glad the site is back ace! Disconcerting when I couldn’t connect earlier today.

    I saw the Trump video and ordered pizza. Made me hungry for pizza seeing him bring those pies to the firehouse

    Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 03, 2024 05:42 PM (xT8gx)

    171 19 who has had the SHINGLES vaccine and what was your experience
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:04 PM (/7KEl)


    I got the two SHINGRIX doses 5 years ago. After the first one, for two days I had a pretty sore arm and felt like I had a cold coming on. After the second one I had a much less arm soreness, and for only one day; I felt tired and a bit run-down for 18 hours. Overall, no serious after-effects. Not a bad as I was warned may occur.

    Posted by: Gref at May 03, 2024 05:43 PM (5fDan)

    172 Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:38 PM (/7KEl)

    Or just lead a high protein/fat diet

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:43 PM (BG4vv)

    173 Alright, thank you everyone for the discourse

    I'm going to rejoin my dinner party now
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:39 PM (/7KEl)


    Well, there is absolutely one thing you must do bef...oh.
    You're leaving?
    Never mind.

    Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2024 05:43 PM (W/lyH)

    174 Alvin Bragg's Neck Pouch: HE RAN A CATCH AND KILL OPERATION!!!!

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 03, 2024 05:43 PM (XV/Pl)

    175 I’d just avoid vaccines in general from here to the rapture. YMMV.
    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at


    Ding ding ding ding ding

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:43 PM (qMklK)

    176 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:43 PM (qMklK)

    How’re you nurse?

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:44 PM (BG4vv)

    177 Enthusiams. A man becomes preeminent he's expected to have enthusiasms.

    Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2024 05:44 PM (LkLld)

    178 Botany Bay? Botany Bay! Oh No!!!!

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 03, 2024 05:44 PM (XV/Pl)

    179 96 Internet says Shingrix (the current 2-dose vaccine) is NOT an mRNA vaccine
    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:22 PM (/7KEl)

    I wouldn't have taken it if it were.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:45 PM (jpjFa)

    180 why is shingles a problem all of a sudden ??

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (V13WU)

    181 I really don’t care if Trump is comfortable with blue collar people or not. I hate this whole “which candidate would you rather have a beer with” shit. I’m not voting for a friend. I’m voting for someone who will make policies that help the country.

    Posted by: Montec at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (mHi0d)

    182 I believe that if your PCP is in a group practice, he my be being incentivized to get his clients ... noticed I didn't say patients, to get every shot / test on the standard of care program.

    If they fall below a certain level of adherence, they do not get performance bonuses.

    Medical practices are big business ...
    Posted by Browndog


    Ding ding ding ding ding

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (qMklK)

    183 180 why is shingles a problem all of a sudden ??
    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (V13WU)

    Weird right?
    - pharma companies

    Posted by: Montec at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (mHi0d)

    184 Lordy sweet goodness, you do NOT want a case of the shingles. When I had it I prayed for death to come swiftly.
    It did not.

    Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (MeG8a)

    185 174 Alvin Bragg's Neck Pouch: HE RAN A CATCH AND KILL OPERATION!!!!
    ____

    Hahahahahhahahahahahah!!!!

    Posted by: Hillary! at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (SDI6g)

    186 @181

    >>I really don’t care if Trump is comfortable with blue collar people or not. I hate this whole “which candidate would you rather have a beer with” shit.

    Trump's a teetotaler so he don't drink beer, he does drink Diet Coke though, I'd have some pop with the old man.

    Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (XV/Pl)

    187 While Merchan has issued a gag order on Trump, intrepid liar Cohen has been on social media blabbing his ass off in rants against Trump whom he calls Von Shitzinpantz. I think that this may come back to haunt Cohen.

    Posted by: Cheri at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (oiNtH)

    188 >No, the internet lied to me.

    Posted by: wth


    this made me laugh
    I don't know why

    Posted by: Don Black at May 03, 2024 05:37 PM (/7KEl)

    IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRUE!

    Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (w6EFb)

    189 Now, if it's dating advice you need, we're full of it.
    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 05:17 PM (v0R5T)

    Full of something, surely.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:48 PM (jpjFa)

    190 Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:44 PM (BG4vv)

    Doing well! I got to wfh today as I was just on admin time, answering messages, scheduling, triage, prescriptions, etc.

    I would have gone batshit crazy if I was at home full time, but once in a while it's pretty groovy.

    What's going on in your world?

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:48 PM (qMklK)

    191 175 I’d just avoid vaccines in general from here to the rapture. YMMV.
    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at


    Ding ding ding ding ding
    ------
    I was never an "anti vaxer" before covid but I sure as hell am one now.

    Posted by: E.T. at May 03, 2024 05:49 PM (7CC/F)

    192 I think that this may come back to haunt Cohen.
    Posted by: Cheri at May 03, 2024 05:47 PM (oiNtH)

    I remain amazed at the number of children trying to pass themselves off as adults.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:50 PM (jpjFa)

    193 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:48 PM (qMklK)

    Glad to hear you’re doing ok.

    In a nutshell? 3 kids. Highschool, kindergarten and toddler. Possible new job in the mix.

    Life is ok.

    Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (BG4vv)

    194 Don Black -

    I got the vaccine on a Monday and had to call out of work for Tuesday and Wednesday. Felt like a bad case of flu. Vaccines don't normally affect me at all but this one did. I had an older friend years back that got shingles and it was miserable for her and lasted months so better vaccine than that hell.

    Posted by: Cheri at May 03, 2024 05:51 PM (oiNtH)

    195 Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

    Many minorities see Biden & Co as a threat to their prosperity and safety and will stay home, each in effect a half-a-vote for Trump. Trump will get many first time voters.

    So the Left has a huge hole to fill by cheat. Can they? Will they? It'll be super-obvious this time, if they do.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 05:52 PM (Gse2f)

    196 180 why is shingles a problem all of a sudden ??
    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM (V13WU)

    Because those of us who are 29 or so probably had chicken pox about 50 years ago, so our lousy immune systems have gone senile on that particular virus.

    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:53 PM (jpjFa)

    197 that was some kind of mass hysteria on the super galactic level, to make people take a half baked concoction that did not prevent reinfection, and then make them think that they were somehow magically "vaccinated"

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:53 PM (V13WU)

    198 As long as you can provide vaccines, or treatments, diseases will continue to be a money maker. Just as I believe there's a cure for most cancers but the real money is in the treatments.

    Trillions

    So... let it ride.

    Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 03, 2024 05:54 PM (Q4IgG)

    199 Welcome to the Moron Advice Mart.

    Feel free to browse our subjects and don't forget to check back often as we update advice subjects frequently.

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    Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2024 05:54 PM (nFo4U)

    200 Because those of us who are 29 or so probably had chicken pox about 50 years ago, so our lousy immune systems have gone senile on that particular virus.
    Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at May 03, 2024 05:53 PM (jpjFa)



    yeah, I don't believe it !

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    Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2024 05:55 PM (nFo4U)

    202 NDAs are usually signed "before." When after, it's a tell that it's a shakedown, and Stormy initiated.

    And Stormy never stole a John's wallet.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 05:55 PM (Gse2f)

    203 @201 How to find a perfect $20 ....getaway...

    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:56 PM (V13WU)

    204 Regional Church Service -
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    Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2024 05:56 PM (nFo4U)

    205 shingles a problem all of a sudden ?
    -

    We were discussing it in morning threads a couple of years ago.

    The vaxxine was cranking it up.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 05:56 PM (RRLgz)

    206 There's a nood btw

    FJB

    Posted by: nurse ratched at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (Ja3qS)

    207 197 that was some kind of mass hysteria on the super galactic level, to make people take a half baked concoction that did not prevent reinfection, and then make them think that they were somehow magically "vaccinated"
    -------------

    ... and to tell them they are not safe until everyone is vaccinated. Thats the lie that gets me, why didn't everyone just call bullshit on this all right then. It's like everyone just went stupid ...

    Posted by: E.T. at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (7CC/F)

    208 why is shingles a problem all of a sudden ??
    Posted by: runner at May 03, 2024 05:46 PM


    My wife had it 10 years ago, it isn't a new thing.

    Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (QNSds)

    209 i've said this before: bragg would be happy to get a hung jury if he can put trump through a second trial

    if anyone is still here anyway

    Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (B1FKF)

    210 A lawyer with pride?

    They would sue their own mom for a buck.

    Posted by: Skip at May 03, 2024 05:57 PM (fwDg9)

    211 You're talking facts and law.

    The Democrats

    DO

    NOT

    CARE

    They know all they have to do is put this in front of a jury of far left New York Democrats and he's automatically convicted. Facts, testimony, law, none of that matters.

    All of this is just the clown show trying to pretend its not an automatic guilty verdict.

    I've said this before and I'll say it again. The microsecond he's declared 'guilty', every single Democrat DA is going to remove him from the ballots in their state.

    Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (AjL/0)

    212 The vax was also re-activating things people had long ago defeated. There's a lot of speculation that's what "long COVID" is.

    Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms until you told them not to follow their dreams at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (RRLgz)

    213
    >>I really don’t care if Trump is comfortable with blue collar people or not. I hate this whole “which candidate would you rather have a beer with” shit.

    I don't drink beer, so it's not an issue with me. My point was he seems to be comfortable with people who aren't elitist leftist snobs

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:00 PM (XkYcA)

    214 Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 03, 2024 05:58 PM (AjL/0)

    Then people write him in.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 03, 2024 06:01 PM (XkYcA)

    215
    Early covid my wife goes to the Doctor who twists her arm into getting an mRNA pneumonia vaccine. Pleasant wife becomes hostile abusive wife. I asked to see the information sheet on what she received. It lists 'hostility' as one of the side effects.

    Read that shit BEFORE you consent. I would have advised her to read every word before rolling up her sleeve.

    Wife is now under treatment with a therapist and hopefully coping strategies will work.

    500% increase in airline passenger anger issues in 2021-2022. Leveling off just a little but still twice pre-covid/vax levels.

    Probably the next big issue for the trial lawyers. So many people I know got divorced in those years. The 'official' stats don't show a bump, but...

    Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (RKVpM)

    216 When Covid broke there was uncertainty over how bad it would be, more so than with new strains of the flu.

    Even more so with many experts who knew that it came out of bio-weapons lab.

    I'd bet that Trump knew this early, and with hindsight he'd say he was taking the safe approach.

    Even if the shots were placebos, they helped limit the panic so people did go back to work

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (Gse2f)

    217 Even if the shots were placebos, they helped limit the panic so people did go back to work
    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 06:06 PM (Gse2f)
    -----------
    Intersting question to study would be if world health would have been better off if the shits had indeed been placebos

    Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 03, 2024 06:11 PM (g8A15)

    218 163 Alright, thank you everyone for the discourse

    malcourse > miscourse > discourse

    Posted by: anachronda at May 03, 2024 06:11 PM (v3pYe)

    219 "every single Democrat DA is going to remove him from the ballots in their state."

    I can see this happening with many state officials. It's like knocking over the chessboard when you're losing. Create chaos to stop the outcome. If it's done by many, courts couldn't control it even if they tried.

    Posted by: Ignoramus at May 03, 2024 06:12 PM (Gse2f)

    220 217 Intersting question to study would be if world health would have been better off if the shits had indeed been placebos

    not certain whether typo or editorial comment

    Posted by: anachronda at May 03, 2024 06:12 PM (v3pYe)

    221 There's a nood btw

    FJB
    Posted by: nurse ratched
    .....

    dammit.

    rickb223 was just getting started.

    Posted by: wth at May 03, 2024 06:13 PM (v0R5T)

    222 I think "Bush Republicans" are DOS attacking yuor server.
    I have got "Your not connected net" 7 times last 2 days trying to go here. 4 times on Safari and 3 times on Opera.

    or


    Are your servers not working?

    Posted by: ol exJarhed at May 03, 2024 07:24 PM (hktjl)

    223 The face of America--pick one:

    Lizzo

    NT firefighters

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